But duel is pretty much perfect as-is. Modding it wouldn't do much good.

yeah but why not add some changes to it to "spice" it up


some sort of powerup that you select before you ready up like;

forcing your enemy to respawn instead of them delaying the spawn (good for last second comebacks)

faking health/armor pickup noise

etc,etc

I guess you could call them perks,but i dont want to call them that.

That's a pathetic idea imo, and I'll let someone else explain why. I'll just say that the only people duel really "matters" to are pros, and adding/removing anything would completely throw off their game and make it boring to watch. Nobody wants that.

It was only an idea I took from the top of my head,obviously you don't have the brainpower to explain why but that's understandable.You'll just have other people explain your opinion for you. Anyway just because I gave an idea doesn't mean its going to be implemented does it. Its an -IDEA- and any idea should at least be tried before being put down.

Hmm... Someone seems a little mad...

Hmm... Someone seems a little deluded

why would I be mad,I take criticism all the time,why would some stranger effect how I feel after calling an idea pathetic that I thought of in less time than usain bolt running 100 meters?

next time don't go off the point by referring to your (obviously wrong) opinion on my emotion that was "conveyed" through my post.

tl;dr

only 8 characters longer,before you go ranting on like an idiot calling me sad for counting

http://www.lettercount.com/

like i said earlier,lack of brainpower on your part as usual

Dude you got trolled by one of those American QL-forum retards. that's like the equivalent of being tricked by a four year old with down's syndrome

A 4 yr old with downs has an excuse for being a retard, what's yours.

a person with down syndrom doesnt need any excuses.
ontop of that: a 4y old downi is hardly worse off than a 4y old normal. one has potential and the other one has less but at that age both are retarded :P

I didnt call a 4 year old with down's syndrome retarded, just the comparison between getting trolled by one of those ql forum NA people to being tricked by a child with a mental handicap.


Also I was raised by wolves and learned to speak human language at age 10. That's my excuse. It was very hard to overcome prejudice even in today's world full of diversity as this is a rare case and people don't know how to react or even go as far as making inappropriate "Mowgli" jokes. ans i'll thank you to not make fun of my condition.

you call that trolling?

oh deary me

Indeed.

I assumed he was either trolling or just stupid but gave him the benefit of the doubt

troll'd

esr became ql forums? ql duel perfect as it is?

10min timelimit = first frag most important one YAY
5sec weaponspawn = lol?
taking a weapon and gain +10 shots = even easier to gain mapcontrol. Whats the purpose of ammoboxes?
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yeah right its perfect...

i guess i can delete esr from my favorite list
ohh reg. date 2010 i see...

"Pretty much" perfect. There will always be imperfections. QL duel is the most fun to spectate, and it's been refined so much that changing it, even a little, would potentially ruin it.

wrong, duel was perfect in every quake game then ql came out and ruin it

Matter of opinion, I guess. I prefer to watch QL duel than any other Quake.

It's players that make the income, not modders. So money should be invested into what players like.
Similar to maps a devolper would have to give all rights to id software so that they could use it. And they would have to make sure no code is stolen from existing mods etc.
Last but not least, a small community cannot be helped my more mods or modes. It would be better to rather reduce the amount of mods/modes that make a community split.

If people wanted to help the community grow, all they could do is advertise the game, be nice to newcomers, teach them etc. The game is as it is, either people like it or not. Dev Picks are the constant attempts to change things and check popularity and thus far none of them was a big deal. Quake is Quake. Period.

A lot of the duelers will rage if you mention the word mod. Some even get mad if you play CA.

they should do this stuff with maps, but not mods.
the only mod QL is missing is defrag, but not an additional number of minor mods that split up the playerbase even more without adding any fuel to the fire (freezetag anyone?)

Do you think a cpm variant has a place in QL?

do you?

Not really, because I'm a somewhat hardcore df/cpm player, and when someone else tries to make a cpm clone it ends up being horrible. (see: edawn cpm physics)

I was just curious what some other people thought, I guess.

and when someone else tries to make a cpm clone it ends up being horrible. (see: edawn cpm physics)

cpm ruleset is just incomplete, while mod code allows 100% pure cpm physics (via devdocs) plus some fun stuff :)

I'm aware that the ruleset is incomplete, but it seems like the mod itself doesn't have the right settings.

There are parts of it that just don't work the way they should, though I don't quite know cpm well enough to point them out (<-- modesty; I know cpm better than most). One thing for sure is that you shouldn't hear the landing sound for doublejumps, and the same applies to the QL ruleset. It's really, really annoying.

One thing for sure is that you shouldn't hear the landing sound for doublejumps, and the same applies to the QL ruleset. It's really, really annoying.

Feel free to post your suggestion(s) on our forum as its really hard to take attention/implement some thing you don't know about ;-) Bugs/"most annoying" things has highest priority for us

Link :P

http://edawn-mod.org/forum/

https://sourceforge.net/projects/nullnuke/

Well Carmack just annouced id Tech 4 engine will be open sourced soon, So maybe make a game off that?

The engine is horrible and not meant for online play. It would be incredibly tedious to tweak it to be on par with idtech3.

But it looks soooo much better....

no, try Q43A

you can tweak random shit in the engine, you will never have netcode as good as Q43A and all recoding of the SDK

the engine is just sending and receiving, not writing all the snapshots, with junk code being run on server and client with client predictions overriding snapshots sent from server and so on and so on

By United Kingdom p0rt

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only prolblem with Q43A is the same old low FPS if you have a athlon XP from 7 years ago, r_shadows 0 and you can max out to 128 players on a map with todays PC`s probaly

Q4 wont crash, the netcode is bling, and all new features are usable on dedicated and listen servers lan or online

just give it to p0rt he'll do the tweaking :D

then you have the all new militiax9001 powered by dubstep engine

download too big to download on cellphone, SDK for drivers are full of junk no1 needs, source files are 15mb

going over the stupid little tmobile bandwidth limit is spine grinding to go most of the month with

Dowload it at the last day of the month

its when i update linux, the net is cut to its minimum between 4pm -> 0 hour, the rest of the day is usualy all normal, get port trottled if traffic is high

on holiday in the UK now this 1gb/month limit on this tmobile shit is horrible

tmobile and orange merged, tmobile network is top notch, roam onto orange and your connection is crap

set the network to manual

nah I'm just pissed at the limit

all the topup packs and all other stuff you get on tmobile contract and payg, its laughable compared to every other network, especially skodafone

dial 150, get web n walk for £2.50 for 5 days of browsing, load of free minutes local and international calls and text for £7.50

or text web to 441

using that tmobile shit right now.....

Epic Studios do this with their "Make something unreal" competition I think?

If the prize money is big enough, there are good tools available and there are supporting documents/books to help with the steep learning curve, with an eager community, then this concept would be a success.

In the case of QL none of these are/will be available, and as such the only people who are capable of doing this kind of work within the community are already doing it with the likes of demo players/wolfcam etc.

Relative to Jonesy's other proposals this is much more sane; unfortunately nothing is in place to make this concept work for QL :|