ESR

<< Comment #1 @ 17:12 CDT, 9 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

frs

that duel vid looks kinda fishy

11%

<< Comment #5 @ 17:35 CDT, 9 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Raist - Reply to #1

I have to agree.

<< Comment #23 @ 03:12 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kapca - Reply to #1

it's fishy indeed, but needs more imo

<< Comment #2 @ 17:20 CDT, 9 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

draven-

i just wanna say this guy is not part of csiqlive , hes just using the name to gain credibility so i hope csi qlive credibility wont be damaged.

Edited by draven- at 18:50 CDT, 9 August 2011

3%

<< Comment #6 @ 17:46 CDT, 9 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kg - Reply to #2

what credibility

43%

<< Comment #9 @ 17:59 CDT, 9 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

pTOLEmy - Reply to #2

err fuck off? I didnt post this?

<< Comment #11 @ 18:01 CDT, 9 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

draven- - Reply to #9

Milicreate isnt your youtube channel didnt you make lt_pwn video?

<< Comment #13 @ 18:09 CDT, 9 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

pTOLEmy - Reply to #11

You cannot watch that video without a proper link. Its hiddin on youtube.

You are accusing me of posting this, which isn't true. So get your facts right.

<< Comment #21 @ 02:54 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Kazan - Reply to #2

it is lithxIv or whatever his name is, my no1 fan, he felt a killer urge to call me a cheater the first time he met me, with out playin a second against me or specing me; >

<< Comment #58 @ 08:54 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

lithz - Reply to #21

Nope, it's not me, but looks like others spotted it too ;o

<< Comment #75 @ 11:44 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Kazan - Reply to #58

course it was u; > Nobody ever accused me in tdm, but u the first time we played you pulled the shortest straw, frankly u got raped at every hole and I didnt say sorry for it, and you went emo on the channel we both remember, and you told about it to your friends, thought about it and went to steal the csi guys name, and cause a few people a bit of unpleasentnes, who wrtie all kinds of exuses here for your worthless demo; >

<< Comment #89 @ 22:31 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

lithz - Reply to #75

i told you already, that isnt me, you make it so obvious to specs, why would you not expect anyone else to think you cheat?

<< Comment #57 @ 08:53 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Q50 - Reply to #2

Just been told about this now and would like to agree with Draven.

This has absolutely nothing to do with CSI-QL which is an irc channel specifically set up with trusted members to look at potential cheats.

Anything done by CSI-QL will be very conclusive and professional and result in an almost certain bust, otherwise it wouldn't have been released in the first place until more evidence had been got.

I think since the zhu bust i must have had 30-40 suggestions via PM as to people who "potentially" cheat :) a lot of these are people who have been around for a long time and it all seems very unlikely. I think its good that people are at least looking now as its clear this problem isn't going away in any hurry but lets all relax a little :)

<< Comment #65 @ 09:50 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Raist - Reply to #57

its usual for paranoia to increase after a bust, should pass in time.

<< Comment #66 @ 09:51 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

esdf ' - Reply to #2

well neither are you, yet you're talkin on behalf of them :)

<< Comment #69 @ 10:05 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

draven- - Reply to #66

You are totally misinformed then.

Edited by draven- at 10:06 CDT, 10 August 2011

<< Comment #80 @ 13:45 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

esdf ' - Reply to #69

well if i saved the logs, i'd quote, but now i'll just have to transcribe it - q50 said you have nothing to do with csi, you just post the news.

2%

<< Comment #3 @ 17:25 CDT, 9 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

allme

RAY FINDS 2 MORE CHEATERS AND HAS THEM BANNED PROMPTLY AND THUS PRESERVES THE SANCTITY OF QUAKELIVE.

you heard it here first!

<< Comment #4 @ 17:31 CDT, 9 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

frs - Reply to #3

sadly ray cant find any other cheater than those who hit 90% accuracies on pub servers

<< Comment #16 @ 21:07 CDT, 9 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raythenoob - Reply to #4

oh i've found plenty

digitalhunter
velcor
spicybabe
prodigyzyn

all banned (with exception of prodigyzn whose ban period ran out and now he's back)

<< Comment #15 @ 19:14 CDT, 9 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (92.40.254.34)

thesee 2 have been cheating for a long time. All of the gbyte team are known cheaters also. But now we have the proof.

They need to be banned.

Good job csiqlive

<< Comment #7 @ 17:53 CDT, 9 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Gladius

http://www.quakelive.com/#!profile/statistics/totalmassacre
some idiot with an aimbot

you need a demo to ban his account? I asked another spec, and he was gonna send the demo to me

Attached Demo: 83920-totalmassacre-bot.dm_73 (316KB)

Edited by Gladius at 18:05 CDT, 9 August 2011

<< Comment #8 @ 17:56 CDT, 9 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

analyzer

thats obvious :)

<< Comment #10 @ 18:01 CDT, 9 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

pTOLEmy

i have no idea who posted this, this wasnt supposed to go public. So Draven gets your facts right. In fact: i decided not to post this because CSI wanted to wait longer.

<< Comment #12 @ 18:05 CDT, 9 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

[eXodus]

dont u just hate it when all thats between u and ur cursor is a wall :/

<< Comment #19 @ 02:32 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kapca - Reply to #12

cursor = target? :P

<< Comment #14 @ 18:09 CDT, 9 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ischju

i knew there was something fishy with them :D but they dont care anyway because they are dicks.

<< Comment #17 @ 02:05 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

mar-

Im leaning more and more towards q3 ..

<< Comment #18 @ 02:31 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

p4r4 - Reply to #17

Yes.
Where no one plays, no one cheats.

Edited by p4r4 at 02:31 CDT, 10 August 2011

<< Comment #20 @ 02:35 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

mar- - Reply to #18

DeFrag!

<< Comment #73 @ 10:45 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

KittenIgnition - Reply to #20

Without w3sp, there aren't a whole lot of people who cheat (and try to hide it), though there are still a lot of people who do botted runs. Which are awesome.

:D

<< Comment #83 @ 14:31 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

mar- - Reply to #73

Ill bet raythenoob will send a mail to ID requesting for ban because of that comment of yours.
Poor lille bot :(

<< Comment #84 @ 19:59 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raythenoob - Reply to #83

id doesn't care about cheaters. there's no point emailing them

<< Comment #85 @ 20:01 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

mar- - Reply to #84

Unfortunately youre right :(

<< Comment #87 @ 20:46 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

allme - Reply to #73

i can never get over the fact w3sp pretended to be a girl for the longest time ;(

<< Comment #88 @ 20:48 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

KittenIgnition - Reply to #87

I wasn't around back then. It seemed like the greatest thing to have not missed.

<< Comment #22 @ 02:59 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Kazan

I see theres a nice rocketspam vid of me, that proves anything to anybody? Good friends like this lithx came in my life before this, if somebody remember jaz he said i was cheating too, he had the power of a cb admin/supervisor, and what was the epic end to the jaz story, sure we all remember

Edited by Kazan at 03:00 CDT, 10 August 2011

<< Comment #24 @ 04:11 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

p4r4 - Reply to #22

Well, jaz has all the expertise to know what cheating looks like, so if he said that you cheat, then it is a very good argument towards it.

Edited by p4r4 at 04:11 CDT, 10 August 2011

<< Comment #64 @ 09:44 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Xen_Crypt - Reply to #22

cheater, unleash the draven!

<< Comment #25 @ 04:17 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

mefajpE^

CHECK VADER FOR THE LOLZ!

<< Comment #26 @ 05:06 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

vor_

The Kazan vid is how almost everyone spams on DM14? It shows nothing dodgy. Hasn't everyone at one point or another hit perfect prediction rockets from the shard corridor into quad? Which btw, the video doesn't show him doing, it shows him trying to but not connecting with anything great, which only further proves the point of there being nothing dodgy. (edit: this part was Smoggii but the point remains the same)

As for the stuff in the RA room, give me a break, is there a shot at ANY point where you can't hear the movement of people, what else is he going to do with a rocket in that situation if not spam at corners, wait and aim for the heads of people?

Edited by vor_ at 05:12 CDT, 10 August 2011

7%

<< Comment #27 @ 05:19 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

smuf

I'm not saying that the duel vid does not seem odd to me, but for the TDM part ... the vids are badly made, hard to follow and too many situations mixed in in which one would see small parts of enemies without shornormals or the enemies can be heard etc.
Imo if you want to prove anything, make a video where you see things normally, then with shownormals and then with slowmotion and shownormals. To be fair, it is also a good idea to watch a demo and go like "ok, if this guy cheats then why did he do this or why did he not do this" (like on purgatory keep aiming from Q to Rail when with shownormals it's clear there is no enemy left on that position) . As it is now my 2 cents are just: odd indeed, but not enough. ImHo.

<< Comment #30 @ 05:52 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ax!on

The duel video is the best evidence for smoggii cheating. For the tdm videos i agree with smuf. They should be prepared better with slow motions and shownormals on/off. This wolfcam position switching is hard to track.

<< Comment #33 @ 06:05 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raw - Reply to #30

I'll repeat once but i dont want to get drawn in on this as i dont know how they found their way on here.

It was just a quick video created by people in ek based on a couple of games, it was never intended to find its way on to ESR any time in the near future at least in the totally un-edited state it is now.

I dont know who posted it but i am sure it wasnt Ptole as he also wanted it to go to the CSI QL guys to go over further but somehow its found its way here anyway.

Edited by raw at 06:05 CDT, 10 August 2011

<< Comment #39 @ 06:21 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

vor_ - Reply to #33

I'd give up on the DM14 parts.

<< Comment #40 @ 06:25 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raw - Reply to #39

Like i've said, it was just demo footage from a game we had. It was never anything conclusive or intended to be posted on ESR, i have no idea how it got here :-/

<< Comment #28 @ 05:39 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

f3xoo

kazan is obviously cheater, dunno how somebody can defend him, look how he aims through the walls or shoots prediction rockets. Also smoggi, that rail on pillars explains everything.

Edited by f3xoo at 05:40 CDT, 10 August 2011

<< Comment #29 @ 05:40 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raw

Well, those videos were created from demos from ek games which we had recently.

They did raise some suspicion though with "odd" stuff which happened during the matches, it was intended purely for private use and were not intended to find there way on ESR.

Though i make no appology for it, everyone knows smoggi is bent, it's just a matter of time. I will see if i can get them removed when i get home tonight.

Edited by raw at 05:41 CDT, 10 August 2011

<< Comment #31 @ 05:55 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kapca - Reply to #29

"it was intended purely for private use and were not intended to find there way on ESR."

May I ask what do you mean by "private use"?... no offense, but do you wank on it or something?

5%

<< Comment #32 @ 06:02 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raw - Reply to #31

Not all of us need the internet to satisfy our sexual appetite unlike some, funny how its the first thing that sprung in to your mind.

For the sake of it i'll assume you're simple and reply anyway.

"Private use" would suggest it was a video made from demos of a handful of games to be discussed privately.

<< Comment #34 @ 06:09 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kapca - Reply to #32

Yea, I admit I was thinking that you might just satisfy your sexual appetite, but the truth is just shocking and way much worse:(

Now, go record some more, and start discussing it privately!

3%

<< Comment #35 @ 06:09 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raw - Reply to #34

I am still trying to work out the point to both of your posts.

<< Comment #36 @ 06:12 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kapca - Reply to #35

The first was pure curiosity, the second is about sadness.

<< Comment #37 @ 06:14 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raw - Reply to #36

So basically there was no point.

Edited by raw at 06:15 CDT, 10 August 2011

1%

<< Comment #38 @ 06:21 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kapca - Reply to #37

This may sound shocking to you (reading this on that distant planet), but the point in asking questions because of curiosity is to get answers.

But don't worry, i have no further questions for you:) (oh you edited it out:/ )

Edited by kapca at 06:22 CDT, 10 August 2011

<< Comment #42 @ 06:27 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raw - Reply to #38

Your question was about as pointless as the comment about wanking off to a quake video.

If something is private then it obviously wasnt intended for the public eye.

<< Comment #47 @ 06:37 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kapca - Reply to #42

The wank part was a simple and obvious joke ofc, I had no intention to offend you in any way. The fact that you took it so seriously might mean something, but it's none of my business.
And the reply was about my acknowledgement of the shocking truth and a honest reaction.. (about the fact that somebody might actually spend time discussing such subject with others on forums, chat, ts, or on whatever media... was something I would never ever thought by myself)

<< Comment #49 @ 06:39 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raw - Reply to #47

I didnt take it seriously, its just you're about as funny as aids.

Things get discussed on irc, ts3, in life, on the phone, in person etc - get used to it, its how people communicate.

<< Comment #50 @ 06:41 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kapca - Reply to #49

I would understand it ofc if it would be about rapha or somebody... but we just have different values I guess.

<< Comment #54 @ 08:05 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kRoNic- - Reply to #50

So it's okay to discuss an American player that we will NEVER play against but it's weird to discuss a player who we have played and may have to play versus in the future?

<< Comment #55 @ 08:35 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kapca - Reply to #54

change rapha before the "or somebody" to fox or whoever you want, it's obviously not the point ....

Both are "OK" tbh! I'm not the one who should judge what you do or don't discuss with you friends.
All I said is how weird and unbelievable was to me that someone put energy into recording, rendering out and uploading a movie about smoggii.. because in that time you could play a game and have fun...
If I ever find such suspicious moments, I would sure also mention it to my friends or would even send it to id, but that's about it imo.

Also, I never said anywhere that it's wrong or stupid or anything.. all I said that's its sad imo, and i would never ever thought that he uploaded it to youtube to discuss it with his friends.

Edited by kapca at 08:40 CDT, 10 August 2011

<< Comment #59 @ 09:09 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Naghokez - Reply to #55

You have read the thread, watched the video and now written nine replies in this very thread. I'm pretty sure you could have "played a game and have fun" during that time, and in your case you're not even talking with your friends/watching a video of someone you played against. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

4%

<< Comment #60 @ 09:17 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kapca - Reply to #59

FYI, I played games in the meantime , but I'm in bed now with a fever so I have plenty of time today to use the computer and browse all the forums I like:P

I didn't want this to go this long tbh.. I asked a question and got ans... I even said that i have no further questions... the whole point is now to stack up against me or what?

And even if he is cheating, he is still not good enough to get this much attention from anybody imo:P

<< Comment #63 @ 09:44 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Naghokez - Reply to #60

I just don't see what's "sad" about showing his friends a video of a guy he thinks is cheating :p It takes little time, it's useful to expose someone/spread awareness about a particular cheater and it can sometimes feel good to get back at him.

<< Comment #70 @ 10:42 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kapca - Reply to #63

I understand it now, I'm not stupid:)

It's just because I never do that kind of stuff, and didn't even thought that he uploaded it for such reasons...
I don't even spec, never did except the top tournaments. I only play to have fun with the fellow quakers, i play for the quality time in my fav game :)

Can we be friends now?:)

<< Comment #149 @ 08:32 CDT, 15 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

dynodeath - Reply to #42

I need to send you the Jenna Jameson skins hax!!

<< Comment #150 @ 08:34 CDT, 15 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raw - Reply to #149

Might make my Quake YouTube wank a bit more interesting :-P

4%

<< Comment #52 @ 07:00 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

gienon - Reply to #29

I expect to see a demo of me cheating on OSP5 then ;D

<< Comment #53 @ 07:07 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raw - Reply to #52

lol i think my gun was sticking out a mile :-D

Edited by raw at 07:16 CDT, 10 August 2011

<< Comment #41 @ 06:26 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

tourist

this is so weak, no shownormals, no slowmo, no soothing music. complete fail.

<< Comment #43 @ 06:28 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raw - Reply to #41

Scroll up a bit and start reading, thanks.

<< Comment #44 @ 06:29 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

tourist - Reply to #43

cba

<< Comment #45 @ 06:30 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raw - Reply to #44

Ok

<< Comment #48 @ 06:38 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (148.188.1.60)

hrhr nice one smoggi and I was wondering that his skill growup so fast

<< Comment #46 @ 06:35 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kevz

what an annoying video, get ur footage sorted out before posting it here ffs ;p

<< Comment #51 @ 06:45 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raw - Reply to #46

We didnt post it Kevz! Someone else did and i have no idea why :-( it should hopefully be removed soon!

<< Comment #56 @ 08:40 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

lukee

Don't forget about 'oldiezzz'.

<< Comment #61 @ 09:23 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

vinkieee

i can only see one video the rest is private... :S

<< Comment #62 @ 09:42 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

smuf - Reply to #61

Yes, the videos have been made private as they shouldn't have been made public in the first place apparently. Or the feedback in this thread was not the intended reaction. Nothing more to talk about here :)

<< Comment #72 @ 10:45 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raw - Reply to #62

They were never intended for the public eye as i have said about 5 times above this post.

It has nothing to do with any feedback because we didn't aim for them to be shown in this way any time soon, so please don't jump to conclusions.

Edited by raw at 10:46 CDT, 10 August 2011

<< Comment #91 @ 23:19 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Xen_Crypt - Reply to #72

will this planned but failed unveiling affect the ability to produce quality vids displaying the illegal game modifications of the perpetrators mentioned previously?

<< Comment #92 @ 01:47 CDT, 11 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raw - Reply to #91

"Planned but failed" would suggest that we as in ek planned to release this unedited footage yesterday, which you would see we didnt if you bothered to read some of the other comments.

You might want to avoid jumping to assumptions when the facts are freely available to anyone with eyes.

<< Comment #94 @ 02:00 CDT, 11 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Xen_Crypt - Reply to #92

okay i get it

but why didn't dandaking go to quakecon?

<< Comment #95 @ 02:22 CDT, 11 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raw - Reply to #94

Who knows. Why didnt i win the lottery on Saturday?

1%

<< Comment #99 @ 05:51 CDT, 11 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Xen_Crypt - Reply to #95

idk man, maybe cuz u were too busy posting videos too early?

<< Comment #100 @ 06:01 CDT, 11 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raw - Reply to #99

Who was posting? Stop wasting my time please.

<< Comment #67 @ 10:04 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Nukm

glad they have been made private again, seems like people cant read (okay no surprise here)

<< Comment #96 @ 02:22 CDT, 11 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raw - Reply to #67

What, people on ESR reading before commenting? Fool!!! :-)

<< Comment #68 @ 10:05 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

trippy

haha I knew it'd get leaked if enough people heard about it

<< Comment #97 @ 02:28 CDT, 11 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raw - Reply to #68

I blame you for all of this :-D

I will now take peoples attention away from the randomly posted not for public viewing videos by showing them trippy in all his powerup glory!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz12Rd6vTmA

<< Comment #98 @ 04:00 CDT, 11 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

trippy - Reply to #97

I may of passed these off to quite a few people xD

<< Comment #116 @ 21:30 CDT, 12 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raythenoob - Reply to #98

share again?

<< Comment #71 @ 10:44 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

vile_

Not really a good video? Guys look clean to me.

<< Comment #74 @ 11:27 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Kazan

"you people" (the PRIVATE users) privately wank at Hungarians... the worst part is at men... thats the real sick part; >

Edited by Kazan at 11:57 CDT, 10 August 2011

<< Comment #129 @ 12:27 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

scowl - Reply to #74

homophobia detected.
I don't care about the cheats: fuck off.

<< Comment #130 @ 13:56 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Kazan - Reply to #129

where should I shit?

<< Comment #76 @ 12:22 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kg

I think I need raw to say that this wasn't meant for the public to see, I didn't quite catch it the last 8 times.

<< Comment #93 @ 01:49 CDT, 11 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raw - Reply to #76

It wasnt meant for the public to see ;-) hrhr!

<< Comment #77 @ 12:41 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

annihiluzz

smoggii has parkinson or smth?

<< Comment #78 @ 13:09 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Daddy_

so, a thread about a cheater, but the videos are private. rofl

<< Comment #81 @ 13:48 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kg - Reply to #78

Don't worry, it wasn't you.

<< Comment #82 @ 13:49 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

funnyb - Reply to #81

or was it..

<< Comment #86 @ 20:29 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Daddy_ - Reply to #81

that doesn't even make cents, you pathetic troll, gtfo

Edited by kkk at 20:30 CDT, 10 August 2011

<< Comment #90 @ 23:14 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Xen_Crypt - Reply to #86

you cheated against those bots. they will never recover from such an experience. you sir, are an vile and evil person.

<< Comment #101 @ 09:43 CDT, 11 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Daddy_ - Reply to #90

nice that people watch me playing ffa vs bots. damn, I'm popular!
but never cheated

<< Comment #102 @ 12:27 CDT, 11 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Xen_Crypt - Reply to #101

101 dalmatians

<< Comment #79 @ 13:31 CDT, 10 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

j0sh_

Can we get 1 cheater thread to be modified/added to?

<< Comment #111 @ 21:57 CDT, 11 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raythenoob - Reply to #79

i tried that but they just keep popping up. I don't know why... oh wait... right, because there's still no anti-cheat. gotcha

<< Comment #113 @ 22:38 CDT, 11 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

allme - Reply to #111

rofl i hate to agree with you but it'd be kinda funny if PB even came back for a day.

<< Comment #175 @ 06:28 CDT, 5 September 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raythenoob - Reply to #113

it will probably come back. Syncerror likes to disprove his haters. However, when it comes back it will be called trollbuster. Basically punkbuster, repackaged to look new. Sadly, itt won't make any difference, as the cheats being used were undetected prior to punkbuster's removal.

Edited by raythenoob at 06:30 CDT, 5 September 2011

<< Comment #103 @ 12:58 CDT, 11 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (89.182.201.44)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sbc3QvidZQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srCDoWhDTZs
opinions?

<< Comment #104 @ 13:32 CDT, 11 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Kazan - Reply to #103

; >

Edited by Kazan at 14:12 CDT, 11 August 2011

<< Comment #105 @ 14:00 CDT, 11 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

r1ddler - Reply to #104

y u cheat bro ? :p

<< Comment #106 @ 14:09 CDT, 11 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

palatka - Reply to #103

pick 5 cooller games and u would probably see shit much worse than in this vid

<< Comment #107 @ 17:03 CDT, 11 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kg - Reply to #103

i'm gonna be 100% sure if you add some chillout music to the vids

<< Comment #108 @ 17:28 CDT, 11 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

MRKZ - Reply to #107

this^

<< Comment #110 @ 18:59 CDT, 11 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

vor_ - Reply to #103

Not these fucking retarded videos again.

<< Comment #115 @ 11:33 CDT, 12 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

me - Reply to #103

Well, if you know that this guy is orc4 then you have your answer.

<< Comment #136 @ 22:22 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Torzelan ' - Reply to #103

stupid humanese'd aimboats everywhere

<< Comment #159 @ 11:08 CDT, 26 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Nzr0 ' - Reply to #136

One of the videos actually said that humanized aimbots aim for the edges of the hitbox to make accuracies more believeable. You aim for the center like normal players do.

<< Comment #160 @ 18:21 CDT, 26 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Torzelan ' - Reply to #159

I'm sure that's adjustable though, I mean already years and years ago in games like SoF2 (Q3 engine) the bots weren't really "humanized" yet but you could already set the "aimvecs" or whatever it was called; in other words where on the enemy the bot would aim for. If they haven't implemented that on humanized aimbots now, or even better make it a tiny bit "random" (but not completely) they're idiots, and as much as we don't like cheat coders they're not stupid.

Also my video was live cam as I played, if anyone spectated or would watch the demo nothing would look centered anymore thanks to the 64 ping and decidedly unfortunate way it works in this game.

<< Comment #161 @ 03:20 CDT, 27 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Nzr0 ' - Reply to #160

You have a good point there.

7%

<< Comment #165 @ 06:53 CDT, 27 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

madbringer - Reply to #136

Definite aimhack, possibly even a wallbot. Nice catch, mr Sandberg, now Draven can bring that despicable cheater to justice.

<< Comment #156 @ 08:20 CDT, 26 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (212.184.115.50) - Reply to #103

You dont see that this is aimbot? For god sake!! Its 100% cheat.

Denying stuff like this is destroying quake alot more than paranoia

/ aCt - React

( dont have an account, and on work with german proxy)

<< Comment #109 @ 18:26 CDT, 11 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (62.163.45.41)

^^^^

<< Comment #114 @ 00:48 CDT, 12 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (77.160.62.159)

the kazan video im not so sure, alltho i must also add that in the past on q3 more viRus guys got busted, like our big friend marine, and the video of smoggi to me is more then fishy, or it was pure luck, so it wouldnt surprise me if more of them would, but to keep the subject, i would say kazan not proven, smoggi discussable.

<< Comment #112 @ 22:06 CDT, 11 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rizzah

lmao every cunt is at it ;x

sad days for ql

<< Comment #117 @ 03:32 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

daviezz

i fuckin knew smoggi was cheating, called it months ago and the response i got "oh i dont cheat i play NC man i have too much to lose" fuckin filthy immigrant

<< Comment #118 @ 04:44 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

f3xoo - Reply to #117

duuude Vader, and many of DX guys cheating, smogii etc, now take a look at public CA, in every second game u can find some new rail heavy player with stats smth like this lg-20,rl-25, rg-70, mb not everytime but still they like that shit. Shit becoming crazy. One mode where u can play without thoughts thats some1 is cheating against u is duel. Well at least u can play there against ppz u know.
P.S. sry for my english.

<< Comment #119 @ 06:17 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raythenoob - Reply to #118

inb4 nobody cares

<< Comment #123 @ 09:05 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

frs - Reply to #119

actually, these are the cheating cases people here care about because they play against them in competitive matches. no one cares about some nub 100% lging on pub ca

<< Comment #124 @ 10:25 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raythenoob - Reply to #123

nobody cares about cheating. prove me wrong. go

<< Comment #125 @ 10:28 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

frs - Reply to #124

http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=2130051
http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=1627250
http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=1782455
http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=2032073

Edited by frs at 10:31 CDT, 13 August 2011

<< Comment #126 @ 10:43 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raythenoob - Reply to #125

I am glad you care about competitive players cheating, but the problem is much bigger than that now and has grown out of control. You can't just care about 3 or 4 guys cheating in leagues and ignore the rest at this point. The reason you see more esr members cheating is simply because it's become accepted and commonplace in the overall ql community. Again, this is where i come in, and you can either accept that, or troll me as others have done, but then dont' be surprised if more and more of these types of players start entering lans trying to cheat.

<< Comment #127 @ 10:58 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

frs - Reply to #126

lol

<< Comment #128 @ 11:22 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raythenoob - Reply to #127

There's a reason ql got dropped from esl, etc. Noone takes a game with a lot of cheating seriously. But do continue to only care about those 4 people. That will solve the problem i'm sure...

<< Comment #132 @ 16:19 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

allme - Reply to #128

dear ray please report this guy and have him banned, we are unable to do so.

http://www.quakelive.com/#!profile/summary/nazigermany

<< Comment #133 @ 16:33 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

allme - Reply to #132

ql is dying it is swarming with cheaters and they are killing the game

<< Comment #134 @ 17:37 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

allme - Reply to #133

http://www.quakelive.com/#!profile/statistics/camelman

here's another one ray please help before the game explodes

<< Comment #135 @ 17:39 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

allme - Reply to #134

wait i'm not sure if i'm helping or supporting ray's idea that ql is swarming with hackers.

please advise.

<< Comment #137 @ 22:24 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raythenoob - Reply to #135

not sure if serious..... but its' gonna take more than a couple people to stop this nonsense. It's going to take id getting serious about adding an anti-cheat to their game again as its' quite apparent that this or any quake live community can't regulate itself.

<< Comment #139 @ 22:27 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raythenoob - Reply to #134

80% rail with 73 rail kills. Looks like a cheater but it could be an alt. His lg is kind of low in comparison although, generally anything over 45% is questionable. Have a demo?

<< Comment #140 @ 22:58 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

allme - Reply to #139

bro cmon bro, of course i have a demo.

<< Comment #141 @ 23:13 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

allme - Reply to #140

http://www.mediafire.com/?skiwib69j74im6w

~14:25 all you need ;D

<< Comment #142 @ 23:15 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

allme - Reply to #141

disclaimer: it's ok if you take credit for this one

<< Comment #143 @ 23:22 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raythenoob - Reply to #142

lol. i'm still working on the other 2 i found yesterday....these 2 are all yours... bro

<< Comment #144 @ 23:22 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raythenoob - Reply to #141

virus detected

<< Comment #145 @ 23:50 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

allme - Reply to #144

wtf?

<< Comment #146 @ 01:42 CDT, 14 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raythenoob - Reply to #145

jk?

<< Comment #138 @ 22:26 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raythenoob - Reply to #132

he's banned now

<< Comment #147 @ 05:52 CDT, 14 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

murph - Reply to #119

I literally hate you, Raythenoob. If I could find you IRL i would beat your face in with a fucking bat.... you are worthless and a terrible waste of oxygen for the people around you.
I honestly would bet that you cheat as well. Under some idiot alias i'm sure. Why would you continue to care about a game that you SUCK so BAD at?!

<< Comment #148 @ 12:32 CDT, 14 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raythenoob - Reply to #147

Raythenoob. If I could find you IRL i would beat your face in with a fucking bat.

screenshotted. if you want to find me we can arrange something. msg me ryan from iowa, age 29. btw: im' 46, so think quick.

btw, loser much?
http://imageshack.us/f/641/murphloser.jpg/

Edited by raythenoob at 12:43 CDT, 14 August 2011

<< Comment #151 @ 03:27 CDT, 16 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

murph - Reply to #148

you spent quality time on that... do you work for a living or do you just spend all your time on ESR? Is that screenshot supposed to rile me up or something? Laughable troll attempt bud.
By the way, WTF are you doing trolling on a website like this when you are +40? Don't you have a wife or kids or a house of your own? Apparently trolling on ESR is way more important than those things, right? Have fun dying of old age in your mother's basement.

<< Comment #153 @ 16:08 CDT, 16 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

crea* ' - Reply to #151

petty bourgeois

<< Comment #122 @ 09:03 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

frs - Reply to #118

get some proof

<< Comment #164 @ 06:18 CDT, 27 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

gienon - Reply to #118

Yeah many of :D Those damn cheaters like lotnik, toxic, matrox and stry...

<< Comment #166 @ 07:24 CDT, 27 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

f3xoo - Reply to #164

nah just you, vader and xiks

<< Comment #167 @ 07:41 CDT, 27 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

gienon - Reply to #166

Start counting days till I get caught then. It must be about three years now as I remember playing in kuh3 premiership in 2009 and being solid back then.

<< Comment #168 @ 14:49 CDT, 27 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

f3xoo - Reply to #167

ok ok

<< Comment #120 @ 08:24 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

trippy

i remember yuka got busted for less :D

<< Comment #121 @ 08:41 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

r1ddler

0:13 drop on dm6 was quite odd :P

<< Comment #131 @ 16:16 CDT, 13 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

mrlamboukos

Leave the hungarians alone really ...

4%

<< Comment #152 @ 11:53 CDT, 16 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

stunt.us

is the same ictf smoggi that played in those eu vs usa ictf show matches?

look in the other cheating thread for the vods

<< Comment #176 @ 08:26 CDT, 5 September 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (77.253.27.196) - Reply to #152

yes, that is the same smoggi...

<< Comment #179 @ 11:05 CDT, 5 September 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

stunt.us - Reply to #176

funny cuz a few of those players felt like they were aiming before i could even react. And im known for having quick reactions.

<< Comment #154 @ 16:10 CDT, 16 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

crea* '

stunning proof right there, private vids noone can watch

<< Comment #155 @ 07:35 CDT, 26 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (94.173.6.190)

is it just me that thinks this is auto aim

http://www.own3d.tv/video/189024/ark1_smooth_...f_jump_pad

<< Comment #158 @ 10:38 CDT, 26 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

thuNDa - Reply to #155

yes, only you

<< Comment #162 @ 03:48 CDT, 27 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raytheknob - Reply to #155

well i played a lot of tdm against ark1 around 2006 and he was decent. id say hungarian b, when hungary used to be stronger.

<< Comment #163 @ 05:02 CDT, 27 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

daviezz - Reply to #155

that guys pretty bad if i remember, so if he starts raping, then hes cheating

<< Comment #157 @ 09:07 CDT, 26 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (148.188.1.60)

the complete team plays "botlike"

<< Comment #169 @ 19:30 CDT, 28 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raythenoob

2 more cheaters found:

http://www.quakelive.com/#!profile/statistics/haiiiyaa
http://www.quakelive.com/#!profile/statistics/ProVariRox

<< Comment #170 @ 22:56 CDT, 28 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kg - Reply to #169

quakelive support is that way ->

<< Comment #171 @ 02:03 CDT, 29 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raythenoob - Reply to #170

they (ordus) don't (doesn't) work on saturday and sunday. oh you didn't know?

Edited by raythenoob at 02:06 CDT, 29 August 2011

<< Comment #172 @ 16:31 CDT, 29 August 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

roxolana - Reply to #169

Ray, you keep on finding cheaters, statwhores, and tierslummers. I have nothing against that, if that entertains you. Now, do me a favor, and show me at least 5 pro players, in your opinion, who do not tierslumm.
I highly doubt that you'll find at least one pro who doesnt not tierslum in Quake Live. And show me their match history that consists of close games. Another thing, those games have to be in a pub. Because on a private server, if it's run correctly, you get close games most of the time; even with a mix of pros and average players. (Trust me, I've played, on decent private servers, with top NA CA players, and 70% of the time we had 9:9 until the last round.).

<< Comment #173 @ 08:37 CDT, 4 September 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

T1E ' - Reply to #172

pro = tier4 ?

OH FUCK.. got retardosandwiched

Edited by T1E at 07:15 CDT, 5 September 2011

<< Comment #174 @ 12:20 CDT, 4 September 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raythenoob - Reply to #172

lolwut? you're mad because i didn't want to add you on facebook? i don't even have an account there. geez. twitter ftw

but in regards to what you said: Sure, there's top players that have played down, but most don't stay for long and even more don't realize they are on a lower tiered server (since people leave perhaps lowering the sv_skillrating).

Incubus however, HE DOES IT JUST ABOUT EVERY SINGLE CTF GAME (not so many on his normal account anymore, more on his alias': see bleed_, artanis, etc)

There's no way to defend incubus. Just go into a game and people already start talking about it. It's not news. You know it and i know it. He's undefendeable in that respect. Only question now is: When will syncerror step in to stop the demise of ctf on na servers by people like him. Answer: never, for the reasons you mentioned to me privately.

I guess we'll have to enjoy another round of tdm at next year's quakecon.

Edited by raythenoob at 12:21 CDT, 4 September 2011

<< Comment #177 @ 08:33 CDT, 5 September 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

r1ddler - Reply to #174

lolwut? you're mad because i didn't want to add you on facebook? i don't even have an account there. geez. twitter ftw

rofl, classic ray :p

<< Comment #178 @ 09:21 CDT, 5 September 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raythenoob - Reply to #177

it's in regards to a back and forth email discussion we had...

<< Comment #180 @ 17:30 CDT, 5 September 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

infusedjaz

http://www.own3d.tv/video/26517/flagaholics

2:00 - viRus Marine

An oldie but still makes me LOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOL xD:DDDD:D:DD;dDDDq=dddDDDDD?

And btw, I think it's kinda obvious viRus or most of these hungarians cheat.. they've been doing it for a while and have admitted doing it when they tried to get me to join viRus during the start of my CTF'ing in quakelive.

They've had several players banned in Quake 3 under different aliases back then, and they were beating pretty much everyone before at CTF then randomly dropped again because they were suspected.

Just ask them for some of their quake 3 aliases, and whoever played Q3 - I guarantee you�ll know who they are, and that they�re cheats.

Edited by infusedjaz at 17:35 CDT, 5 September 2011

<< Comment #181 @ 17:45 CDT, 5 September 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

r1ddler - Reply to #180

:))

YOU SEE WHAT YOU DID JAZ, EVERYONE FUCKING CHEATS NOW !

Do you have irc logs, screenshots, anything to prove what your saying...if not, then drop it :/

also now that its long behind you, why did YOU cheat anyways?

Edited by r1ddler at 18:08 CDT, 5 September 2011

<< Comment #182 @ 01:06 CDT, 6 September 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

raw - Reply to #181

He's still adamant he didnt, so i wouldnt waste your breath on a conversation with him.

<< Comment #183 @ 07:45 CDT, 6 September 2011 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

r1ddler - Reply to #182

oh?ok,rofl, he is sticing to "tested aimbot on p1 this one time only" :P

<< Comment #184 @ 12:44 CDT, 7 September 2011 >>