i screenshotted it and also copied and pasted the links but i'm not about to repeat what he did only to get nuked as well. I'd ask permission from xou to at least post the screenshot but knowing him and the fact he hates me, i doubt he'll grant me it. If you want i can send it to you via email.
and then you'd screenshot it and bait and slander me in hopes to discredit me by saying i spread cheats and i'd have no way to prove my case since the original op's post with those very links got nuked. I learned my lesson with incubus and i'm not falling for that again. And what the hell would you want those linkes for anyways? you planning on getting cheats? not that it matters anymore since everyone and their brother are already... but still? why bother, just play defrag, it's more fun anyways, no?
Edited by raythenoob at 10:44 CDT, 11 September 2011
and i told you to check your im. the op's name is in the screenshot but as others have alluded, he's the guy making all the trolling cheat threads accusing rapha, etc.
Yes but there are more idiots without money than with it and if your the only f2p on the block guess who'sgame the idiots will come and play.
They have got to make QL pay2play,c'mon ID free2play has failed.
Quakelive doesn't need anti cheat it just needs to close the fucking door,at least we'll feel better knowing a cheat has paid to get banned instead of these free cheaters ruining paying customers fun.
Seriously ID you really think people will subscribe to something a 2nd time so non paying idiots can fuck up their games?
They probably would lol but they have paid,read the t&c's,cheated and got banned which is better than the current system because the cheats now don't contribute anything to the game in anyway.
There will always be cheaters only a fool would think otherwise but the prem sub cheaters currently are doing it for diffrent reasons than these idiots that just make an account to piss people/customers off.
but that's basically a death sentence for the game. almost everyone, except some of the people who post here and some dedicated casuals who have money to burn, will leave if it stops being free
if there was ever something that would make people go back to QW/Q3, that would be it
the rationale makes sense, since most cheaters don't subscribe and wouldn['t be erked to do so, but it would definitely reduce the playerbase by 3/4th if not more and leave only the diehards to play the remaining days on ql together.
I've tried to come up with a solution, but sadly, unless a serious attempt is made to stop the spread of cheats that has dessimated the playerbase since march, then no option but closure makes sense as the affect of not doing anything would keep many people from entertainng the thought of getting involved with another id game, one such as rage or doom 4.
A death sentence for any product is asking your customers to pay for something and then when there's a problem ignore them.Yes without customers/users Qlive is dead but without the "paying" customers it would be dead already.
You get nothing in life for free and while i/we have the greatest respect for ID for trying this quite clearly it isn't working on many levels.
Cheats are readily available and it's to easy to gain access to the game.
Slumming is to easy to do with accounts being free.
Premium servers and content aren't being used so any updates are a waste of time and effort as most of the player base can't play on it.Sick of playing DM6 clan arena yet? god i am hence i don't play anymore and i doubt i'm alone there.
Lose/lose indeed,keep it as it is it dies or risk charging everyone and risk it's death.You give anything away for free for long enough and people when asked to start paying won't.
I think ID need to seriously consider their next move with QLive,my suggestion for what it's worth,which is probably fuck all,is to set a price structure currently lower than present to encourage prem subs and still offer pro subs for those who want the extra features like server spawning which is essentila for clans to exist.Alot more people paying less is better than the few paying more surely?ID's problem is getting the figures right to maintain anything that would be worth subscribing to in the first place.To high noone subs,to low and they loose money.
- imo all maps should be free
- duel and tdm subscription only (noobs can test and enjoy the game in ffa, ca and ctf, as they already do)
- lower the subs and give the option of buying a 2nd sub for half the money (to give to a friend or for having a 2nd account)
- give lan servers to pro subs or create gold subs just for that
the benefits will be many, but I won’t bother explaining them, since I already gave enough time to a pointless post.
Tbh (and this has nothing to do with personal differences between us)
I get what you are trying to do but esr has never needed this kinda moderation, the troll threads and flaming is an integral part of the character of this site.
By cleaning it all up the place just loses a great deal of it's appeal to me and probably lots of others , we do not want a clean respectful forum, we want a good old fashioned flame war
Yes, but i do not want flame wars to start at one persons discretion.
We've been there done that having a single ruler (germans anyone) and it was not a good episode. ( a bit rude and over the top i admit but judging from recent forum dwelling who suddenly made xou the supreme ruler of all things esr? The people certainly did not )
I don't know xou tbh, think I only talked him once, seemed like a nice guy, but even if he is not, he only nuked a "RE:" thread:) I don't see him nuking every thread all over the place, so perhaps you are over exaggerating a little bit.
People and sites change with time, and besides that, I still see ppl getting flamed pretty hard if there is a reason;)
Being a trusted user doesn't mean anything when you are getting personal against an admin, nor it makes you more trusted:)
Imo what's done is done, but if you think you are right and your way will make the site a better place, keep pushing him I won't stop you:)
xou does a lot of work for the ql community, updating esreality a lot.. I don't see what he's doing wrong? ;x - I'm happy for him to be esreality super admin!