about time I got accused of cheating on esr

wtf took so long

He's mad that he's on the other list and is trying to take the focus off that by posting a list with mainly pro/semi pro players that have been playing q2/q3/ql longer then he's been alive. Huge fail worse then kdawgs fail was.

maybe ur mad that ur on this list and the other list which is why ur posting anonymously?

get an account lamer.

maybe he's right :)

What's your ql name? I'm slightly offended I didn't make the list and would like to be on it

failed troll attept

gillz

Fail.

Fail.

Notice how all of those names have made it on a professional level in QuakeLive on some point or another. lol

Seems like this guy tried playing duels 2 levels to high and now he's upset lol

Not near all of them

neg. most are suspected hackers in the community anyway. not just my opinion. you're name's probably on the list so you came here to cry. anyways i'll be posting evidence up soon.

this shit needs to stop

i want my "what (useless gaming peripheral) should i buy" threads to come back, this hacker shit is just retarded

fail troll or retarded newbie. take your pick of what you are

As if the other list is any better?

the other list is paranoid in nature, but atleast it was given some thought even though it lacks massive evidence.

it was given some thought

it lacks massive evidence

For a cheating list, that means exactly that it lacked thought.

thought and evidence are not the same.........

For how many of the people in that list is there absolutely no evidence? How many of them are innocent?

you're going to look really stupid in the next week when i show you just how many of those people are really cheaters.

Do you have proof for every single one of them?

i got most of the na players if anything. Although, admittingly i missed out on whatever happened between november and march.

"Most of" isn't good enough for a cheating list.

let's see you do better? oh wait... your purpose of being here on esr is simply to discredit anyone with cheating claims.

tell me. what's your quake live nick. is it kg as well?

AWWWW SHEEEEEEIIT RAY GON' DROP SOME KNOWLEDGE ON THESE SUCKAAAS!!

don't stretch it further then needed, the guy saw some shots and moves a player made and came to the conclusion that player cheats, flimsy basis with no evidence (demo, video, whatever), simply thoughts

This guy put dahang, chance, czm on the list, its either a bad troll or someone with his head up his ass so far its emerging back up his neck

This is a perfect parody because it has exactly the same amount of proof.

no it doesnt, hence my wording.


eeh why do I even get baited in to these things, pointless debate, I said my 2 cents and I am done with this entire thread, reply with what you like.

nope. vile's list has some circumstantial evidence with links and a backstory. This guy just listed random pros with the remark that he'll add evidence in weeks to come. Vile has already added in evidence in the comments section.

czm actually got caught using hacks back in the day on a Q3 duel server using the alias 'CRAZYMAN' and the alias matched his IP. this was before his fame but it still holds that he hacked in the past. i have the records, will post the evidence soon.

dahang is a bullshit hacker who got good out of no where.

chance uses item timers to win 99% of the duels that he plays.

my brain is full of fuck

so much effort :p

his nick was "crezyman" though: http://methosq.com/czm.htm
dahang coming out of nowhere, i mean, quake2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_-ychMmEgU

actually, my list was given alot of thought. I'm working on posting up conclusive evidence of each and everyone one of these players listed here in the next 2-3 weeks.

yep.

it actually is, but you wouldn't know since you're busy defending cheaters all the time

Why am I not on this list?

you're not even tier 4 lol. and i'm only adding people who I know for a fact have been cheating in one form or another since i started playing this game.

But I'm as much of a cheater as most of the people on this list :/

how so? you barely play, and when you do you barely get over 20% overall acc.

That's exactly my point. Learn logic, please.

everyone on this list has accs way over 20%, play way more than you do, and use a form of hack or cheat to gain an advantage over other players.

you asked why you're not on the list. there's your answer.

I was implying that I don't cheat and neither do they. An amazing example is czm: if he cheated at one point, many, MANY years ago, in a DIFFERENT GAME, AT ONE POINT, why should he be on a QUAKE LIVE CURRENT CHEATER LIST UPDATED V2?

There is no sense in it whatsoever. A lot of these people are LAN proven, and the best QL players in the world. It's physically impossible for them to cheat.

i can't believe, of all people, that you fell for his list....it so happens there's some questionable individuals on that list but the rest are just randomly typed in, probably from the old bibs teams page.

hardly random. all the names are there for a reason.

The whole point of my post was that I didn't fall for it.

Shut your face and read before you write.

a troll making u explain yourself...

SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH!

It sucks to be owned by a mare troll, doesn’t it?

Probably not for u. Your little retarded brain will keep saying “everything is alright” no matter what.

Umm... What?

Also: SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU STUPID WHORE NIGGER!

Umm... What?

exactly

you been hanging out with kroox and av8r?

WHO THE FUCK WOULD HANG OUT WITH KROOX YOU STUPID SLUT?

didn't take your meds this morning?

QL and Q3 are pretty much the same game. he cheated a few years back in Q3 on a duel server. and like i said, this was before his rise to fame and before he actually started going to LANs. i dont know if hes remained legit since, but the fact remains that he's an ex-cheater no better than the rest of the other names on the list.

i'll post more evidence of the logs & screenshots i have of him cheating in a few.

Someone cheats 10 years ago -> said someone goes pro, proves himself on LANs to be one of the best Quake players in the world -> said person is still a noob cheater hacker noob retard needs to get good roflolol etc.?

Sweet. Guess that makes a lot of the pros noob cheater hacker noob retard needs to get good roflolol etc.?

Once a cheater always a cheater.

troll or idiot....?


YOU DECIDE!

both

I agree ?:-j

I always knew dahang was full of shit. Well played.

outlaw


Only legit player

You missed out Rapha.

no, rapha is legit. hes just that good. i lanned with him in qcon as well and was there when he won his prize. the people on this list i know for a fact use cheats. i'll be posting up some evidence shortly on their cases.

lan proven doesnt count anymore

first legit, then a cheater. your evidence sure sounds inconclusive...

czm wouldnt cheat, dont believe it

why only usa

lol@this

lol@slurppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp

this is typically what cheaters do. They try to deligitimize genuine truth.

nice troll attempt but it just fuels the fire

jones - could be not 100%
incubus - slummer and asshole =! cheater
nemesis - many will agree
chance - cheats made him worse then lol
id_ - is awesome sure hope not
viju - likewise
czm - bitch you for real....
dahang - first time i hear that
clampOK - hes a dumbass sure and has alligation that are ancient
just dont let him near mousepads

jones - like most hackers, only good with rail. shit with other weapons. uses a custom triggerbot that kept he going all these years.

incubus - uses farmhacks in CTF pubs. i have some demos of him blatantly hacking vs noobs to gain high accurities.

nemesis - same as above but uses rail hacks in CA pubs.

chance - uses item timer cheats and possible wallhack in duels

id_ - uses speedhacks in competitive CTF play to gain a thrust on his opponents. i have demos of him too.

viju - same as above

czm - actually yeah. got caught using hacks back in the day on a Q3 duel server using the alias 'CRAZYMAN' and the alias matched his IP. this was before his fame but it still holds that he hacked in the past. i have the records, will post the evidence soon.

dahang - bullshit hacker who got good out of no where.

clampOK - runs his mouth when he has hacks to back him up but doesnt say shit when he doesnt have them. also was caught hacking back in the day. will post up the evidence soon.

give me a few weeks and unlike vile_ i will post up the evidence of all these players so we're all on the same page.

id_ - uses speedhacks in competitive CTF play to gain a thrust on his opponents. i have demos of him too.

so we have a serious hacker epidemic in QL

-->

czm (...) got caught using hacks back in the day on a Q3 duel server (...) he hacked in the past

Haha.


Looking forward to your "evidence", though :D

When the list changed from trolling to considerable.

tether <<
devious
glock <<
light
syncore
xyz123abc
staind <<
fear_ <<
blatrix
rhythm <<
range <<
spook

syncore isn't good, but an awesome dude. Made QLprism and what not (I think?)

And haven't seen any demos regarding anyone else so who knows

Let me make it easier.

tether and fear both were caught hacking in 1.16 using iCTF rail hacks.

blatrix was caught in 1.32 using a multihack and banned from several servers

gLock got a hack from EBOLA/fate/micron back in ra3 and end up getting busted.

all a bunch of previous hackers if you ask me.

But no demos :[

syncore used hacks when he was playing for smf, hes not using them much anymore but the fact still remains that he has hacked in the past. ill post a few demos and evidence up soon.

fear_ is dbflpz btw. He's in incubus' clan now..

:)

Wouldn't it be funny if this turned out not to be a troll after all?

Oh USA.

cheaters love parody threads

says the cheater

you might as well add carmack to the list at this point.

LOL@ the list, got me this time :\

i wonder tho did you follow the Q4 scene?

finally i'm on a list

Dude, who is this Johny guy? HAY ALAC and CXT U R FAMOUS! notice stephen didnt make the list I hear a Uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhhh ./quit CLICK coming! haha
Jonny'd

oops, i meant jonny. fixed

anyway, almost everyone in -i has been caught hacking im surprised the whole clan isnt banned now

range <--
spook
demex
allme
schizm <--

The same person. Everybody knows that.

Unless schism =/= schizm...

Not sure if serious. I used to duel schizm and he puts up nowhere close to the numbers I've seen on range's profile. range is teetering obvious, albeit I don't know them, have never played them, etc.

I wasn't serious. We hang out in ventrilo all the time (schism, not sure if schizm, rents the server for us), and people used to think that range = schism (both are legit, btw).

Range has even made video evidence that he doesn't hack, but it's not like a simple video of him playing and hitting 57% LG, with his screen and mouse completely visible, would be enough to clear his name.

I await Qcon 2012, if it happens.

funny you guys mention range, more on him later. But he averages lg over 40%. s7e currently has the highest lg% on all of quake live btw.

More on him later? Laff!

You people who accuse others of cheating just because they hit higher % than you, or have higher W:L ratios than you, are so pathetic. I mean, it's not like I didn't already know just how pathetic you are, but I'm just pointing it out. Again.

Oh, also: even I can hit 30%+ LG in pub CA games with bad players. 40%+ isn't that big a deal for someone with low sens, good mouse, good mousepad, etc.

strenx has the highest lg percentage for a pro at 43%. But nice try.

this is k1llsen vs some noob
match1

this is k1llsen vs an evenly skilled player
match2

do you get it slowly?
- you can't compare different gamemodes (not even maps actually)
- noobs can't dodge (what is a noob?)
- I shoot 50% lg on bots, 40% in CA, 35 in TDM and 30 in duel, am I a cheater now?

And this is K1llsen vs Vo0 :)

And this vo0 a few months later :)

you wouldn't shoot 50% lg vs a good player however. Taht's the whole point. Range is playing tournament ready ctf players. But the jury is still out on him, hence why i didn't personally call him out, that was hello_world. I just said there's more to come as far as he's concerned. Do the math. But if you want to see a definite cheater, wait for part 5 in vile's list, although i'm sure yo'ull just try to disprove me to win the argument vedic style. Oh and, i don't bother with overall accuracy, so you telling me you shoot x% is meaningless to me. I have made an lg ladder leaderboard in the past and i know what's possible there so i concentrate on lg accuracies on playerp rofiles.. Poros1ty had the highest for a semi-legitimate player at 48%. The highest for a legitimate player is strenx at 43% (although it has dropped to 40% since i last checked. s7e however is hitting 45+ lg on a regular basis against ctf pros. And then there's kgb lol. He's part 6.

Want me to reinstall and play him so I can tell you indefinitely? I'm the ultimate anti-cheat.

let me post up part 5 first so you can see what your'e up against. He's pretty much dominating at the moment. And yes, if you want. I wouldn't mind seeing that. Might get some lulz out of it.

Maybe there should be a CSI:QL:NA. I don't think you or vile should be on the team. Honestly, as amusing as CSI:QL has been in Europe it's almost meaningless as the game is dead. No one is legit. No one is cheating. No one is playing. Dead game is dead. Bury it, ray. I'll let you do the honors.

you're sounding like Vedic. yes things are deader than dead in NA, but i'm waiting to see how syncerror reacts to the claims on av8r, incubus and adrenal1ne once and for all. If he refuses to take care of business once more, than i'll bury this game myself, something vedic would love to see me do with flying colors. Sadly, it will once again be because syncerror refused to listen to the community.

The community wants you to jump off a bridge, play in traffic, or lick a high voltage wire. Wil you listen to the community please?

i'm enjoying you following me around on this personal vendetta of yours. Are you going to be assisting in this, personally? or are you asking me to do this voluntarily.

Also, be a man and own up to who you are instead of hiding on a fake account. If you say you're not incubus, then adrenal1ne? av8r? lillie? come on.. give me a hint :)

ray: i'm enjoying you following me around on this personal vendetta of yours.


HOW IRONIC..

Personal vendetta? You didn't harass me for 6 months like incubus, but you have tk'd many people in the span of the last 2 years and for some reason have not gotten banned for it. It just so happens your name came up and i started talking about my past experiences playing against you when i wasn't banned. Then you started making fake accounts and posting bs threads only to claim i'm following you around? i'm pretty sure it's the opposite. But keep drawing attention to yourself, it will start the process of people asking themselves why you did get that pass and that question will present intself in front of syncerror sometime at which time he'll need to make a decision, especially after all you have done to ruin the morale of this game.

I am Lilie's illegitimate son

troll more

:>?

don't you have some noobs to teamkill on q l?

Maybe I'm adrenal1ne.

or maybe you're lam aka diplodok. It don't matter, you're just as big a retard.

So how did that turn out?

Haha you are so fucking retarded it's amazing.
You know why strenx doesn't have more than 40lg in some games? Because he spams the weapon. He abuses it but someone like you who doesn't know shit about the game can't grasp that ...

Range is playing tournament ready ctf players

Like there are any decent ctf players who dodge and aim on the same level as strenx's opponents. Hittin high acc in any teammode is way easier than in duel but w/e

It's funny that everyone accuses range without knowing who he is.

'who is he?'

Jeff Bridges.

not that this is a serious thread or anything... but i'm not impressed when i watch most of the people on this list play, despite the fact that they are like most of the best US players that still play

is that my bad, or is that just the state of this game in the US?

also why do people keep posting this shit without any proof? fuck off idiots

state of the game in north america

its prime for quake was long ago (not including duel)

I'm not on this list? Hm...what was that website called? "Aimbots.net" or something...

I should look into it as well.

Oh neat, I apparently cheat. Funny list bro. A++

didnt even know there were that many ppl left playing ql in us

there's not...

Bunch of crazy, goddamn hackers.

I haven't really played QL for months and even before then I hardly played, but I still hope to make one of these lists one day. For trolling too hard or something.

adrenal1ne added to the list

Proof: http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2150769

Trigger bot is the main problem. Walling or not.....all these shittays are always shooting 50+ rail now every game. People i've played who cant hit a friggin afk now magically hitting all these perfect flick rails - occasionaly missing because their delay is set too slow. Once you've tried it (yes i have, dont give a crap) it's OBVIOUS that a lot of these baddies are using it......

Google quakelive aimbot. Pretty sure it's the first thing on there. Once it became 'public' (a few months ago i think) sooooooo many people (including you pinpoint - horrible before) are using it.

btw half the people on that list i'd have to agree with.

I decided to actually 'test' some people in game. I suspected 3 or 4 people trigger botting - not outright BLATANT. So i set the delay to 0 hit a solid 50 in a row - guess how many people started doing it? HALF THE SERVER.

PS - this game is ruined until they fix the fuckin cheats.

You forgot to add 3/4 of the people in that XLR8 clan led by trigger happy celestial.

yeah ur right. that whole clan cheats. i added them to the list

This makes me wanna drop nukes on the U.S.

like europe's any better?

anyway what does my country have to do with video game cheaters

Dont talk to me, kretin.

ok then dont post in my thread then.

then then then then!

oh i hack too? so basically your list is every tier 4 player in quake, yet youre just a raging terribad noob that cant get good at a game and obviously cant handle being raped every game. once you realize that its not the hackers that fuck up a community, its the idiots like yourself that accuse every good player, the game might actually be active. you are the reason no1 plays this game anymore. all the drama you faggots cause makes no1 want to play anymore. if you actually realize that there are tons of good players with extensive track records in the game you would also realize how there really arent THAT many hackers. plz jump off a cliff and spare the community and the rest of the world. ty fgt.

p.s- plz post my blatant hacking proof so i have something more to rofl at

lol, seriously?

seriously what?

why hack, hacker

lol retard

Sorry to break it to you, but you've been trolled

yeah you hack. and everyone knows you were caught on NoGhost with tether using hacks while you were in eM. you 'dropped due to suspected cheating' on one of the servers on 1.16. so you're just another instagib hack shitty. i have some demos ill be posting up of you hacking soon.

you're off to a good start

never been caught for anything. never dropped. nothing. cant wait to see this :D!

You will never see anything because this guy is a bored troll. He's full of shit. He is hoping to get responses like yours, maybe he's even jerking off to your post above as i write this one, who knows. He is clearly a deranged, butthurt chap with a penchant for the dramatic retardation.

I hope i'm getting through, here.

oh i know. thats why i cant wait for the 'proof'. and i changed my name from "fear_" to "eminence" because i wanted to use a diff name. i guess i was bored of using "fear_" and i was kinda of tired of having a "_" in my name. then after qcon i changed it to "dbflpz" because i wasnt feeling the whole "eminence" thing.

Sounds like something a CHEATER would say

Can't you just say you're gay and be done with it? Faggot.

You were probably the shittiest in 8x at hiding it. Wasn't it you playing Devious 1v1 insta walling your balls off?

That was samer and they were all laughing at how stupid devious was because you could see the flag glows off the wall, I think I even have the demos saved somewhere

no i'm pretty sure it was "fear"

yea that was samer. and i guess playing ictf for 10 years before coming to QL means i shouldnt have any reflexes or be able to utilize sound either right? herp derp. once again, all the people accusing others of hacking in here are either aliases or all of the tier 2 noobs that cant seem to get good at all even after playing for years. sad world.

oh and the same goes for samer. 10 years of ictf before QL. u guys should come play us at qcon like a bunch of others did this year. last i heard, its really hard to hack at qcon...oh but wait, we both played the same :O shocker.

actually samer played like shit at qcon but dont try to make this about him. you both have been caught hacking in the past on 1.16 on iCTF servers like mostly all other iCTF players. iCTF is nothing but hackers

why change your name from fear_ to dbflpz?

Lol this is actually hilarious.... who the fuck is this dude even?

You're welcome to share whatever "proof" you've got on me :D

-cxt

I thought speedhacks were legal...

also ban dmus
http://imageshack.us/f/703/dmusowns.jpg/

the kid made switchback rage out and pwned the stacker blue team. Whoever he is, he's too good for ql. ban him,even if he isn't cheating.
http://www.quakelive.com/#!profile/matches/dm...fd90/ctf/1

he even won with an all noob team. i mean wtf, who can do such a thing. impossible amirite?

Hey ray. Looks like murdershow is cheating. Look at that no-name's railgun accuracies! Am I right? I usually am.

ridiculous...

What about me you arrogant man! Check the first cheaters list, im also on that one ! xD

scratch me out spinfire. you got me:
http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/4771/dutra.png

oh noez!!!!

hi, i'm too lazy to make an account.. my alias was algorithm.. i quit playing the game. but, to clarify a few things... thorian does not hack lol. when he was myth0, he had excellent aim; aside from the fact when he was high - and was most frequently "high". a 1/4 of your list consists of players who have actually attended major lan events and have done well. to say everyone is hacking is simply ignorant based on what? them owning you... and qkumbr lol, last i seen, you are terrible. autofire? half of these guys hit rails by gliding their crosshair over you and pulling the trigger. some are blatant, yes..... but, not all. i think the easiest way to explain this is..... you can't hit your crosshair over a well dodged opponent all the time. trust me i've done some crazy shit before. so stop crying. share some proof before you add anymore people to this list. accusations will always be aroused through the blatant posts of ignorant baboons.

op trolled you hard son

hayt - bad
jones - good/maybe
novmode - lol? bad
greg_ shitty
icel0re good/has gotten better perhaps
incubus maybe
nemesis maybe used too/not now
infin1ty lawl? he's decent, definitely doesn't hack
tyryl only good at duel/maybe wallhack? lol?
nightmare recently gotten 4x better/ as if he has assisted aim... spec him...
whaz lol/nope
airrick hacker
chance lmao? no
bio no
id_ no
viju SHItty
czm no
dahang rofl? no
cxt never heard of him? maybe
gwc nope
alac nope/did get better out of no where
jonny nope
thorian nope
syndicate who the fuck?
function9 lmao NO! shitty
son nope
boots nope RoFl!
syn nope
chile nope
dutra maybe used too/not now
extremerz nope
predt nope
nicko lmao no
nybarius shitty
mr_impressive nope
gillz haha shitty
jtocs wallhacks
q3a4l rofl no
phonsc hell no
outlaw nope
pantd lmao SHItTy
end nope
adammmmm nope
bentley lmao no
erok rockets are rape/ that's the only thing questionable... rape
johnnnnnnn lmao no
mateusz no
venom maybe...
m1tsu nope
clampOK lmao nope
kryptos nope shitty
euthana who the fuck
sparks nope, shitty
relic shitty
swooped shitty
tether shitty/lmao SHitty
devious terrible
glock nope
light nope
syncore nope
xyz123abc who the fuck?
staind possibly at one point
fear_ possibly at one point
blatrix wallhacks / triggerbot
rhythm who the fuck?
range lol no... maybe? iunno
spook nope
demex rofl no, he's good
allme no
schizm nope
adrenal1ne has always had a good rail
cooller he's better at lans than he is online/ you are a fucking moron
strenx lmao same as cooller
rapha rofl? is this a joke?
cypher rofl? is this a joke?
avek rofl? is this a joke?
stermy rofl? is this a joke?
noctis rofl? is this a joke?
fazz rofl? is this a joke?
k1llsen rofl? is this a joke?
ownedbym3 shitty
acob wtf?
allme no
antilife shitty
b0t no
benzona terrible
Bisquack terrubke
blackmanasus terrible
blitzkreague terrible
booz decent/ possible wallhack
Breezeeeeee who the fuck?
buff730 lmao shitty
clashie possible, iunno.
Daemond lmao shitty!
DaKeD shitty
dizalin shitty
dlogic22 shitty
doggystyle who?
ect no, well maybe
Effortl3ss no
elsv lmao no
erebuX no
Extremerz no
fimm lmao no
fleazzz no, not good enough
Fuggler no, not good enough
funeralhat no, not good enough
gtthbkup no
Hands no
hed who?
imurQ possible
InfoBiter lmao shitty
iNstiN possible assisted aiming/wallhacks
isaBadMutha liner - and no he does not hack lmao
j0hn_stam0s who?
Jiga no
jure
k9exodus
ksoul
leeech
Light
LuckyShot
med1cated
Mercyon
MrShady_
naymlis
Necrophagist
nfinitesimal
nigel
nuclearsquirrel
pr0j
predt_nah
prophecy lmao nah
PulseZzZz no
pyyyour who?
rank1 no
rehash no! rofl
rooste lmao no
rootcode no
sfxer no
son no
stylezp shitty
symmetry shitty
SysKnight shitty
t0rrent possible wallhack
teh_pwnguin shitty
th3_4v3ng3r lmao no
ThaiNfamous baddie
thorian no
tr1cky who?
tracedout who?
truSt_ who?
tsz wo?
Uzziel who?
V1zard who?
wn no
Wrekt no
Wretch no
wxdotz no
xamot shitty LMAO terriblE
xhilerate eh?
Yurkevicz not good enough
Zedman no
Ze_Poopa shitty

So by that list, the only person you t00% believe wallhacks is blatrix, a former clan EQ member. It's always the people associated with incubus. Sure is interesting....

Bad troll. Trolling more than op.

Sup Rapha.

spinfire=jamalz

proof?

Noctis
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LOL Wow played with alot of those guys way back in the days of q3 and not any of them cheat!
How about this, you go and buy yourself a better pc and then get a uber cool isp connection and then play! Cause I play with alot of these guys still and know that they dont cheat.

P.S wheres the proof dont see any!!

I approve of this thread only because I'm 2nd on this list.

he is the same making this thread : http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=2102731