Please do everyone in Quake a favour and crawl back under your rock, or better yet a speeding truck

cause his cheating past is totally unrelated to his moviemaking skills...

Now you've completely stopped making sense. I'll take that as a sign of intellectual defeat.

get killed over missing a penalty in football and stuff like that

Nobody will let him back into playing competitively, so what is the issue again?

I'm not willing to give a cheater the benefit of the doubt, are you?

me neither, but i simply just don't doubt anymore.

You've heard of "innocent until proven guilty", right?

U'll find most of the old school ppl agree with that and the new ones don't

Gosh you and all the others should get real and take a look out of the window. Some of you act like quake is the only thing still left in your pathetic lifes.

Ironically I'm the one who stopped playing quake because I cba to play with dishonest, cheating people. Enough fun stuff to do in my "pathetic life" so I don't have to fool myself playing ql..

Guess who lost contact to the real world, me or the people who blindly support someone by whom they got shitted?

I don't say he should be hated forever

its just that his "excuse" was so half-assed and full of shit that it doesn't even count as an excuse. Same with fragma btw. Of course its up to him how to act but if he obviously gives a shit about the community, the community shouldn't support him either imo (by promoting his vid on the frontpage..).

distinguish between the player and the movie maker

but hey rather quit something you enjoy than deal with the fact that there will always be someone abusing hacks in an online game.

Yes, of course? Say you are working in a software firm. Would you delete all the work your co-worker has done and write everything from scratch, because he beats his wife? Those things have nothing to do with each other.

The fact that zeroql keeps making movies doesn't make him any less of a cheater, yet at the same time we can thank him for the work and appreciate it.

The movie was good, and I felt more like supporting UGC by posting it.

I don't hate him

one of your co-workers regularly beats his wife up, and you know it. Would you really distinguish between him as a private person and him as your co-worker?

Oh please, I'm not that naive. Its just that if you want to stay away from the cheaters, the people supporting the cheaters, the annoying kiddos and the random tards, there is not much left to enjoy (certainly no pickups, no random ca and no hoq).

There is a huge difference between hate and disrespect ;) and you obviously meant the first one otherwise there wouldn't be a post like this.

Got an anology for you. Imagine you meet a really hot girl and you start a relationship. Would you still date her if you knew she cheated on her ex or do you think she should never ever have a relationship again and you gonna dumb that stupid cheating bitch?

According to you, scowl and some other shitheads it's prolly every 2nd player who improves over time or is just better than you

its not like he committed a murder or something

with a small community

I just think its worrying reading so many people praising this guy who helped develop cheats, cheated in a nations cup and god knows how many other times only a month or so ago!

The first thing everyone sees when this news post goes up is, oh zeroql that cheat has made a video and its posted on the main QL community site!

There HAS to be some hard limits in life