Stop caring about others so much. Play for yourself, to draw satisfaction from your improvement. Ignore others.

in a multiplayer? great adivce lol.

In this case, kg advice is good... If i lose a duel to a cheater, its him who sooner or later will get caught. If we stop playing due to cheaters, thats how they win. We cant let stinky cheaters do that.

no. cheaters hardly every get caught because not enough people care enough to demo then and turn them in.

Maybe you could post a short guide to help cheat busters wanabees :D

/record demoname

send to support@quakelive.com

profit!

good job, its short for sure :D

the best thing to do is not play with them dude. your absolutely wrong i'm sorry. if they have noone to play with they will go away.

by playing with them, knowing they are dishonest, you are condoning and encouraging their actions.

Nowhere i say the opposite, just that there no need to go full nazi cause you end accusing everybody etc.

well the point i think he is trying to make is that associating yourself with cheaters, only keeps them motivated/stimulated to continue their actions. If they are isolated, ignored, they are more apt to stop and better yet, quit all together.

Not caring much, unless youre sure of it in which case you shoulde demo him, is the best way of ignoring them. Really good players hardly chit anyways... Its mainly a band of dedicated players who, pissed at their own incompetence, embrace the dark side.

agreed. although that small band usually has a following because those people tend to make videos of themselves pwning noobs with those cheats...oh whoops i said too much already...

lol :D

one of the main reasons people play is their competitive nature
if most of the players will cheat then the possibility of autoevaluation will be hardly diminished
and who wanna play smth he is not good at, for an eternity? even if you wanna say that your ego is very low, it could and will affect your trust in your own forces in the long run

It's not like you earn 10 bucks every won game, the only thing you gain is satisfaction and nothing more.

Don't deceive yourself that winning a game will make you any better, you'll still be the same person.

Does everything you say have a counter-argument for trolling purposes, or was it done coincidently?

this must be the most deadly wrong observation I ever seen

The QuakeWorld community exists but you will definitely not be playing very actively due to the limited amount of people playing on a daily basis. It's kind of a weekly thing, I would idle #sta and you'll meet the old guys there. If you want a game with someone you can generally message anyone with @ and they'll play with you if they're free, they are all really really nice guys.

CPM is a little worse off I think, but there are still a couple guys who still play and like I said, you message someone and you might be able to find a game almost immediately, I haven't checked on the north american pickup channel in a while so I can't say how active it is, but a year ago sh1t and the crew were still doing enough pickups to satisfy a busy college kid/person with a job/wife, but not someone who has the ability to play everyday for hours. So like I said, not really a daily thing, but weekly kinda.

So you have to either get used to playing a lot less because I assume you play on a daily basis? And get used to playing on a weekly or almost monthly basis with the same couple of guys and don't make any enemies man.

but honestly, even the most die-hard cpm fans are starting to migrate towards quake live, simply because the player base is larger, spin, I know you're somewhat decent, just keep playing with the guys you're comfortable with and don't play any randoms, or people who seem suspicious, I don't want to call anyone out, but Inphinity, haha, guys like him, if they frustrate you or make you ???? just ignore and don't play, and I don't mean go slumming, just play the guys you know are clean and the assholes, well, people can be assholes, but think about how satisfying it is knowing you beat an asshole, and if you lose, who gives a fuck, this game is a joke :D

I play a few times a week if I'm lucky. I've been pulling quite a few hours at work since I've gotten this job back in May (50-65 hours a week on average). It's just frustrating when I do finally catch a break and can game it's usually with these jackass elitists that complain about winning a game 6-3 or wallhack/bot so bad it's not even funny. I'm not THAT active so I'm not totally sure who is and is not legit. That also means I'm not buddy buddy with some of these kids that just sit there and play all day/night when they're not doing homework or eating dinner that mommy just cooked them a few minutes ago.

I guess it's just getting to the point where one of my passions has been ruined by a bunch of retards and it doesn't feel worth it half the time to keep playing. The few true elite pros that do run around almost only play with themselves from what I can see. Not that I could offer them that much of a challenge, but still. From there it's almost 50/50 running into someone I know/not an asshole and a complete tool/hacker.

Sounds like there's no real alternatives. Kinda sad.

Since the company behind our beloved Quake stopped care and splitting the community there isn't much to do, none of the new games will ever come close to what Quake is and will never have the same appeal.

they should segregate the community even more you tool.

so all the cheaters and assholes are in their own tier. like they used to be in beta!!! it was called fkn tier 5.

cheaters assholes and pros noone wanted to play with. sow hat happened? all the cheaters and assholes started complaining to ID> they are friends with syncerror. they were mostly vets with connections. Some of them prolly even work for ID, which is really the core of the problem. it must be.....

SO ID removed that tier and integrated them into tier 4. and let them slum 2 levels down on every game mode except CA where they stopped slumming. but still letting newbs who didn't know any better tier up.

and you guys wonder why this game is not popular? some serious denial going on in this community. serious denial. by id themselves too. i don't know if its stubborness, or ignorance or what but its pretty disappointing. and I hope ID burns, because they are holding the whole industry back right now. I hope people can learn from RIOTS and ID's example. sports are sports. people like to compete. no offense to these developers. but it could be a game of throwing shit against the wall, and has nothing to do with the game itself. but the competitiveness and fairness.

based on what i've noticed coolout its' simply a fact of the euros and id themselves being unaware of the current state of the game in na specificallly. It was never huge, but it was also never as divided as it is now. It's literally just a couple small groups of people playing at specific times now.

I'm not sure what you mean Ray, i think the community is more centralized and integrated then ever.

theres one forum, friends list. and everyone basically plays the same mods, on the same servers. which are all good things and postives for any game.

for instance, i never heard of defrag until the ql forum. true story. I use to play ra3.

when i say segregate the community. i mean skillwise. and I dont' really see what the problem is with that. Its not hard to do like some think, and its not immoral. except for people with out morals or who lack sportsmanship or fair competitive sense.

to me premium maps just became the new T5 when they took away the original T5. I mean if guys think a public t4 CA match is tough. try a random premium map. might as well try to duel somebody instead. lmao. its mostly the skill 80 and up players who have subscribed or even post on the forums. all the new people who came back to quake on ql, who haven'ed played q3 in years... are mostly gone.

one time i browsed for thunderstruck servers. all i saw was two in germany and one in russia. and the russian one had fatal1ty playing on it.

A community isn't a fucking forum or friend list it being able to play everything together rather just a few maps and modes.

Please stick to your console.

are you fucking retarded ffs?

www.quakepickups.com

q3 still has more activity for north american players than ql.

Sadly, not much is going to change in respect to slummers/cheaters. I've been trying to remove those troublemakers from ctf at least in na. Guys like:

Everybodypoops
bacon_cupcakes
candyass

to name a few (those are the 3 worst offenders at the moment).

But even those that get banned, quickly just make another account and rinse/repeat. It's to the point where you gotta decide the following:

1) start stacking/slumming too
2) start cheating too
3) quit ql and quake games (but buy rage)
4) quit ql and boycott all id games
5) quit ql and play another game
6) quit ql and stop playing games
7) fight to the bitter end like me and coolout.

easiest avenue is obviously to quit and find a game that doesn't have these problems.

q3 still has more activity for north american players than ql.

???

no it doesn't. it's not even close. wtf?

i have to agree with qzy. q3 has nowhere near that amount.

although, when i had this debate on the forum. and even humoured some posters, one regular poster in particular who i forget the name now, had me download some server browsing program at his request. so i broswed and counted the amount of servers and number of players. and it was dismal.

went through all that just to prove to him, ql has way more players.

but i will say this, when it came to tdm, q3 might have more matches on a given time. this was over a year ago at least though, so who knows now though.

for na ctf... that is what op mentioned he plays...

Re-read. I actually didn't specify any game mode. And I actually play duel almost exclusively...

ok, my bad, thought i saw you say you played ctf. carry on then.

wait, so you see the most assholes in duel? i'm finding that hard to believe... have you ever tried playing ctf? if you think the people playing duel are aholes just wait till you deal with a kroox or everybodypoops in ctf.

do you have any names for us, in regards to the people you are claiming are assholes? There's no way to fix the problem if we dont' know who the culprits are.

I can't think of too many names off the top of my head, but celestial, chord and whaz are some recent douchers that I've run into lately. Can't really say that those guys cheat or anything, but they're tools for sure.

I'm not a huge fan of CTF and if there's a decent population of them in CTF, then I think I'll stay away. I'd much rather see TDM make a come back.

btw: celestial is jamalz. If you don't know him ... you will shortly lol

I kinda gathered that from reading other threads.

kroox was not allowed to cheat in ql though like he used to in ra3. at least not in the beta it was obvious lol.

btw, hes not a young kid as he pretends to be. hes an old school, OG notorious RA3 player. real talk. at least thats where i met him many years ago.

he tried to pretend hes some young kid now though, even his clan believes him ahah. and I don't see him in CA anymore at all. I guess hes sticking to other game modes lmao. where people are less likely to know him maybe? who knows.

wait kroox cheated in q3?

sadly, he was unbanned about a week ago, and has since gone back to his old racist in-game behavior.

ya he claims hes some 12 year old kid. Even had this clan he was in believing him.... but he was a notorious top ra3 player for many years dude. ACtually in beta when he first came on beta, he remembered me as an oldschool player and said wats up.


then he dissappeared for a while came back, and pretended to be someone else. and all of a sudden he sucked. but with the same name which i thought was weird hahaha.

i notice this happened to alot of old school ra3 guys. but right now i don't think ID goes as hard on cheaters like they did in beta dude. I mean in beta u didn't have to send noone a demo. your shit got red flagged based just on stats sometimes. OR PB prolly.



and from what your telling me. the dude must of been banned numerous times for many reasons. crazy shit.

he must have some connections to keep getting unbanned. And i bet hes hacking away in t4 now like the good old days. Cause i dont' see him much anymore,.

but like i said he was instant godlike in beta. went away for a while and came back sucking. He prolly runs free as a bird now though. I noticed this happening alot to alot of other oldschool ra3 players too.

to name some ra3 guys like:
flog
qkumbr
pantd
deadlynoob
smooth

these guys are some of the all time worst offenders from ra3. they don't play much anymore though. theres prolly half a dozen more names i can't remember. I'm just talking out my ass but add kroox to that list dude.

celestial def holds the award though for pissing the most players off by acting like an ass and slumming. I don't remember him from ra3. but he might as well have been one lmao.

? kroox is bad. i shit on him 1v1 ts all day and then he calls me a nigger. i doubt he ever played ra3 because hes terrible @ CA.

the only somewhat oldschool ra3 player on your list is pantd who im sure rapes kroox. do work get girls?

actually flog and deadlynoob are also q3 vets.

they all are.

oldschool players yeah maybe, but they're not ra3 players unless theyve played under different aliases. flog used to play on 1.16 and was in oNu clan and afaik never even played 1.32 or ra3. i dont know much about deadlynoob but i dont remember him from ra3 at all.

i find that hard to believe. flog played shitloads of ca when i was playing and i remember seeing deadlynoob in some of those games too.

just because u started playing a shitload of CA in QL and got somewhat decent at it doesnt make u an oldschool ra3 player all of a sudden.

well flog was in my clan and i remember him telling me he came from q3 and that he played ra3 before so i guess we'll just agree to disagree.

edit: looking back over what's been written. What difference does it make if they played ra3, the point cooloutac was making is that they were the worst offenders in q3 and in ql and that's true, because flog was a bind spam whore who annoyed everyone with his taunts. In the end he got banned for cheating according to vile which only strengthens coolout's argument that they were part of the problem in ql.

everything about QL CA gives ra3 a bad name. flog was caught cheating? proof?

flog was a regular ra3 player. dude i been playing this game 15 years. all i played was ra3 and cpma. theres no proof dude.... he just doesn't play anymore....lol went from an everyday player to instatly non existent.

although you can see his binds on alot of alts haha. He basically stopped playing when tier slumming CA was prohibited. it was around that time. usually when people get banned. its in an update. happened to most of the people i know who were banned. they got banned in updates dude. not sure if ID does this anymore. but it was effective.

there are many forms of cheating. botting isn't even as much as a problem as team stacking, or tier slumming on alts or camping servers. he might of even been banned for harassment, wouldn't be surprising.

i actually think he is qkumbr. maybe they are the same perosn. loloroo? wiat what is his bind. lolerooo? lol.

easiest avenue is obviously to quit and find a game that doesn't have these problems.

So why aren't you?

good luck finding a game without problems

You just said it was the "easiest avenue".

if the problems in ql bother you, then yes.

The problems in QL don't bother you?

they bother op for this discussion.

whether they bother me personally doesn't matter

So you're trying to give advice that you don't even listen to?

i don't have the same problems with the game he has, also i'm perfectly content commenting about a game during my ban. Something you should be quite used to as well:
http://imageshack.us/f/52/vedicbanned.jpg/

I was banned in closed beta on ONE account (for discussion about QL on ESR), and I had multiple accounts - I continued to use them all the way up until the game went open beta.

The only part you have listed for yourself is "7) fight to the bitter end like me and coolout." - something that you can't do, since you are banned.

:)

So... why are you still around? What bitter end are you looking for that you haven't already found? You've seen the activity for yourself (still waiting on that apology!), you've seen the problems with id, and you've seen this community - what more do you need? What do you possibly hope to accomplish at this point?

why are you? people already know ql is dying as you've told them a million times. What more are you looking to achieve?

see wut i did thar?

Again, I have nothing to do with QL - I'm just here for ESR. You are here for QL, so why are you still here? What bitter end are you talking about? Is it not bitter enough for you? Has this community not shown you what they are like? Has id not shown you its incompetence?

You were talking about how the game was on the edge of dying when you thought that the game was 100x more active than it really is, so now that you've verified what I have been saying, what are you doing here? The only reason to keep dodging the question is because you have no answer, other than your rage against Syncerror.

qq moar

Nice edit. You're all out of excuses.

Has id not shown you its incompetence?

then why don't you ragequit and find another game? oh right, you don't even play quake live. You're just here to troll, in the name of "ESR" lol.

keep trollin kid

I already quit QL. You admit that QL numbers are as dire as I said, you believe id is incompetent, and you can't even play if you wanted to since you are banned. Other than a vendetta against syncerror, you literally have nothing left. You shouldn't even have that, as you should understand by now that nothing will ever happen to him.

why don't you just come out and admit it, you're here simply to argue with others. If QL died tomorrow, you'll do the same thing in the sc2 forum till you turn everyone from that game as well. You're just a hating troll.

you believe id is incompetent

no that's you.

i believe the people in charge of ql are, based on what i've seen. You are the one who hates id software, the entire company. You're the one with a vendetta as such on everyone that works for id software. Yet they have never done anything to you personally. It's a baseless bias, unless your ban from quake live during beta was for reasons you'd rather not specify here. Perhaps it's the fact that you were just there to troll since you don't even like quake or this community, yet you insistently use the excuse that you are here simply for ESR. As if all of ESR hates id and quake as much as you. I haven't seen any evidence of that. I've seen some guys who rage here and there but all of us still care about preserving quake. I seriously think you should reconsider your plan of action on this site if you have no good intentions.

But please stay so we can all point at you when this game fails since we now have a record of your actions here and on other forums and what youv'e done in 3 years to try to bring down this game, which you seem to have successfully done. Your mother would be so proud. Yet, we still don't understand your hatred for the company or the game, Perhaps you'd like to divulge that once and for all? oh right... you're just a troll. One that none of us will remember, because you're not funny, you have no charisma,, you're instead just an angry bitter jerk who argues with anyone that disagrees with your narrow point of view. Grow up Vedic. Please for humanity's sake. Grow the f up.

If QL died tomorrow, you'll do the same thing in the sc2 forum till you turn everyone from that game as well. You're just a hating troll.

There was a time on this site that I was doing DAILY news updates for SCBW. Not for pay, not for power, but to support the community.

It's a baseless bias, unless your ban from quake live during beta was for reasons you'd rather not specify here.

I already told you what it was - I was discussing QL on ESR during the closed beta.

I've seen some guys who rage here and there but all of us still care about preserving quake. I seriously think you should reconsider your plan of action on this site if you have no good intentions.

You see a few people here and there who care about Quake, but the rest aren't delusional. How would I reconsider waiting for QL to die? It doesn't take any action on my part - I just wait, and id runs their game into the ground. With such a good foundation for discussion, letting this site simply die out would be quite the waste.

no that's you. i believe the people in charge of ql are, based on what i've seen. You are the one who hates id software, the entire company.

You said, and I quote: "id is dead to me. Only new developers can save this franchise now, but that won't happen unless rage fails." and "You only praise id like they're a god, when in reality, they're the reason this game is failing."

But please stay so we can all point at you when this game fails since we now have a record of your actions here and on other forums and what youv'e done in 3 years to try to bring down this game, which you seem to have successfully done.

I wish I could take the credit, but I'll take it as a compliment that you think that a "troll" managed to destroy an entire game. I guess I also beat everyone who was trying to save it, including you - all on my own! What will I defeat next? Entire countries? The world? Can nothing stop me?

Now that all of your repeated arguments have once again been destroyed, are you still going to dodge the question? What do you have left? Why are you here? You're banned, the game is dead, Syncerror made you look like a fool, all of your "contributions" have been deleted, and you're one of the most hated users on this site. Do you just enjoy being wrong, or are you off of your meds?

You fail to realize the damage you are doing here. There is a renaisannce of sorts in the works. You can see this with the commentary work by prettyawesome and twist3r, and with citty's help on quakenet to revive na pickup games which have actually helped bring about some tdm games of all things (an anomoly normally). With the next update we should see qlranks officially become part of the game and ztac initiated as the new anti-cheat of choice.

whether you like it or not, this game is far from dead, so to answer your rant of a question, i'm here to help the efforts of some of those who are coming out now (last minute) to preserve what's left of the game. While you're here trying to destroy it by telling everyone how bad rage is, in an attempt to destroy yet another id game, i'm looking for recruits for the pickup channel.

have fun wasting time here waiting for ql die, too bad you'll have to keep waiting huh. poor vedic :(

well u just gave me positive thoughts ray, i hope all that comes true.

but where are the 5 locked tiers. I've been waiting for that since beta.
I mean an anti cheat and a qlrank system?

what exactly is the qlrank system. is that taking the place of skill matching? like a ladder? or is that just some scoreboard player ranking?

and vedic was banned from beta? too funny.


i wonder now, which empty server do u think they were sending him to? hahah if i remember correctly one empty server was for one form of cheating. the other map was for another form of cheating.

depending on which empty map you were in hahah. I forget the names or what for. once was sacellum i believe not sure though. I just know a friend who was banned. And i was like wow didn't take long to catch this guy. notorious hacker in almost every game for years real talk. ID banned him quickly lol. but this was all in beta. its a diff world in ql now.

which one were you in though vedic? lol

it's all in progress. ql might never increase in population but there's hope we can keep some of the players around for another year or so, at which time people wouldn't renew for yet a 3rd year wihtout more than 1 developer working on the game.

sadly the pickup games of late have only brought in more tier 4 players, have yet to see any mevils or the like taking part. Until that happens it really isn't going to do much other than reshuffle where some of the tier 4's congregate (away from gamesurge).

as for vedic. he's a big phony. He says the same things about rage and other games here and elsewhere. There's a good chance he's simply a game journalist. He claims to know everything about the game yet doens't follow the scene at all other than what he sees here on esr, which is just a small fragment of the population as you know. He could be spending time in the sc2 forum but as we have come to find out he doesn't play that game either, yet another reason to believe he's nothing but a game critic. He's never given his user name to any game he is supposedly concurrently playing, another clue.

As far as why he's banned, based on a couple sources, he was ripping into id telling baseless lies as he always does and as such was banned. lol

You still playing ca? what's the scene there these days? i see a lot less ca games now adays as well.

There is a renaisannce of sorts in the works.

No, there most certainly is not. The game never had enough to sustain the costs of upkeep, and it is at an all time low right now.

whether you like it or not, this game is far from dead

Remember when you said that before you knew that the game had 100x less players than you thought it did? I've been right about everything since you first started arguing with me.

While you're here trying to destroy it by telling everyone how bad rage is, in an attempt to destroy yet another id game, i'm looking for recruits for the pickup channel.

Trying to destroy it by posting on a site with people who mostly have the same feelings that I do? This site has 300 people online at any time, of which a fraction will actually play Rage. If I wanted to destroy the game, this would not be the place to do it. Same thing for QL. I have been right about both games.

You want to talk about destroying QL? You went out of your way to be the only person to give a negative review to QL on metacritic ( http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/quake-live )! You're the one who is actively attacking the game, yet you defend it here just because you don't want to say that I'm right.

No, there most certainly is not. The game never had enough to sustain the costs of upkeep, and it is at an all time low right now.

qlpickup.us is doing good on quakenet. qlranks is moving along. the anticheat is still going to be added by all acounts. certainly sounds like a comeback story in the making. u mad?

Remember when you said that before you knew that the game had 100x less players than you thought it did?

don't put words in my mouth. i have not agreed to your supposed 70% drop according to google trends. You'd like people to think only 3,000 people are left playing it, but based on my calculations from checking out duel servers over the past 3 days, that number will be surpassed by duel players alone, so nice try.

I've been right about everything since you first started arguing with me.

no. lol

Trying to destroy it by posting on a site with people who mostly have the same feelings that I do?

only a handful share your views. The rest are mostly indifferent (dont' give a shit) or no longer listen to you (or have you muted). Same thing :)

This site has 300 people online at any time, of which a fraction will actually play Rage. If I wanted to destroy the game, this would not be the place to do it. Same thing for QL. I have been right about both games.

yet you already have been trying to put down quake with numerous posts in the "rage is released" thread in general gaming. Again, nice try.

You want to talk about destroying QL? You went out of your way to be the only person to give a negative review to QL on metacritic ( http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/quake-live )! You're the one who is actively attacking the game,

1. Poor communication by the QL Developers.
2. Strongarming tactics - one cannot start his own private server in a location of their own choice (you must instead choose from an existing list).
3. Teamsize issues
4. Skillmatching. New players to the game can be pitted against veterans on day one of their ql experience.
5. Low Population of players in North America.
6. Large # of bugs remain.
7. Lack of Transparency.

problem? it's all true.

you defend it here just because you don't want to say that I'm right.

i'm defending the things i believe in. Just because i believe ql can survive with the few that are left, doesn't mean i condone what they do in regards to racism and not cracking down on tierslummers/stackers/teamkillers, i'm working with people who can make a difference, since we both agree id can't do it alone anymore. What have you done to try to save the game? oh right... nothing.... since you hate id so much, why don't you go tell them? You act as if i work for id lol. Take it up with any of the guys you continuously believe, other than syncerror, are responsible for ql's failures. You seem to know everything about them. So why not email them and tell them how they screwed up?

Who are the users that agree with everything you say. please list them.

inb4 ql sucks, etc etc.... then go play hello kitty?

qlpickup.us is doing good on quakenet. qlranks is moving along. the anticheat is still going to be added by all acounts. certainly sounds like a comeback story in the making. u mad?

How many people did you count online? 100? Huge comeback!

don't put words in my mouth. i have not agreed to your supposed 70% drop according to google trends. You'd like people to think only 3,000 people are left playing it, but based on my calculations from checking out duel servers over the past 3 days, that number will be surpassed by duel players alone, so nice try.

Ah, changing your story. Too bad you can't change reality.

only a handful share your views. The rest are mostly indifferent (dont' give a shit) or no longer listen to you (or have you muted). Same thing :)

The majority. The majority dislike you, too.

yet you already have been trying to put down quake with numerous posts in the "rage is released" thread in general gaming. Again, nice try.

There are off-topic discussions there - I didn't bring it up.

problem? it's all true.

You are the only person to give it a negative review, and you just did it recently. There's no problem, so long as you admit that you're actively trying to damage QL.

i'm working with people who can make a difference, since we both agree id can't do it alone anymore.

You can't do anything - you're banned. For life. It's not like that is ever going to change.

What have you done to try to save the game? oh right... nothing....

I never claimed to, since I told you that I saw how useless it was from the very start. The numbers aren't there, and the game never even had a chance.

Take it up with any of the guys you continuously believe, other than syncerror, are responsible for ql's failures. You seem to know everything about them. So why not email them and tell them how they screwed up?

Why would I do that? I have no vested interest in seeing them fix the game, especially since it can't be saved. I have no vested interest in seeing id make another game, since they have been failures for over a decade.

inb4 ql sucks, etc etc.... then go play hello kitty?

I do play other games - you don't. You're banned, though.

How many people did you count online? 100? Huge comeback!p

at 9:00 p.m on a sunday e.s.t..

Ah, changing your story. Too bad you can't change reality

nope, show me where i agreed to your 70%. you can't, cuz i didn't say it and you know i didn't. just because i mention there are less than 20,000 duel players does not = 70% drop.

The majority.

name them. i haven't seen anyone with your exact views of id and ql.

There are off-topic discussions there - I didn't bring it up.

you posted that in the rage thread. it was a discussion about rage. nice try though. next excuse?

You are the only person to give it a negative review, and you just did it recently.

nope. i gave that review more than 18 months ago. nice try though.

You can't do anything - you're banned. For life. It's not like that is ever going to change.

i didn't realize me being banned from quakelive.com on my account raythenoob prevents me from typing on the internetz... lololol. Also you are banned for life, deal with it.

I have no vested interest in seeing them fix the game, especially since it can't be saved. I have no vested interest in seeing id make another game, since they have been failures for over a decade.

they don't know you feel that way. go tell them.

I do play other games -

give your user names then.

you don't. You're banned, though.

you're banned too.

btw: if you haven't noticed, the more you attack me, the more i am willing to help quake live. face it, quake live isn't going to die overnight. you're delusional if you think that.

at 9:00 p.m on a sunday e.s.t..

That's US prime time.

nope, show me where i agreed to your 70%. you can't, cuz i didn't say it and you know i didn't. just because i mention there are less than 20,000 duel players does not = 70% drop.

You were claiming that there were 100,000 players, and 20,000 players would be an 80% drop.

name them. i haven't seen anyone with your exact views of id and ql.

What views? id is incompetent? Mostly everyone. QL is broken and dead? Mostly everyone.

you posted that in the rage thread. it was a discussion about rage. nice try though. next excuse?

Responding to others.

nope. i gave that review more than 18 months ago. nice try though.

September of last year is 18 months?

i didn't realize me being banned from quakelive.com on my account raythenoob prevents me from typing on the internetz... lololol. Also you are banned for life, deal with it.

I'm not banned - I was only banned from beta, and only on one account. Since you can't make a new account, they must have IP banned you. They must really dislike you.

they don't know you feel that way. go tell them.

Why would they need to?

give your user names then.

Give yours.

you're banned too.

Nope, still not banned. Funny, since you believe I'm the most destructive person to QL, and they didn't even ban me for life, or IP ban me. For you, they pulled out all the stops!

You were claiming that there were 100,000 players, and 20,000 players would be an 80% drop.

wut? i have told you in that other thread that the numbers for ql are more in sync with the unique user data from compete (around 27k).
http://siteanalytics.compete.com/quakelive.com/

edit: apparently it has dropped another 3k. But point stands, i still believe it to be around that number. Based on my research to date, i can attest there are probably about 3,000 duelers alone, so it's not hard to believe that it's at least over 15k considering ffa, ctf, instagib, freezetag and ca are factored into the final number with ca having easily twice as many as any other mode. So thats' at least another 6k at the very least. Where it truly lies between 15k and 24k is simply a matter of more research which i intend to do for other modes when i'm done figuring out the duel numbers. See the difference between me and you is, you assume data, whereas i actually try to investigate to find out the truth behind those assumptions. And unlike you, i'm not afriad to admit if i'm off a few numbers, but i'm also not going to agree to something that is simply not true (like your 70% drop theory).

What views? id is incompetent? Mostly everyone. QL is broken and dead? Mostly everyone.

name them.

Responding to others.

you mean, the way you initiated that response by posting a negative review in the form of a link? eh ben?

September of last year is 18 months?

meant 13 months obviously, but it again shows how you lied trying to say i did so recently. Also out of the 5 or so reviews there, to say i'm the only negative review is like saying i plus'd someone on a thread here on esr with 5 replies. Don't lie next time, oh wait.. you can't help yourself since your only goal each argument is simply to win. grow up.

I'm not banned - I was only banned from beta, and only on one account.

you're still banned on your first main account.

Since you can't make a new account, they must have IP banned you. They must really dislike you.

yes they "ordus" was really pissed i called him an idiot.

Why would they need to?

Because they seem to think they are doing a good job? Let them know how you reall feel. Who knows you may be able to convince them otherwise?

Give yours.

i don't play multiplayer games anymore. i've always loved storylines over gameplay. So what's your usernames for all the multiplayer games you play?

Nope, still not banned. Funny, since you believe I'm the most destructive person to QL, and they didn't even ban me for life, or IP ban me. For you, they pulled out all the stops!

you still don't get it do you. i found out incubus is a family friend of sync's and thus was able to indentify a bias sync has, holding him accountable for those actions. Not to mention his past relationship ties with lillie. You on the other hand are banned, don't like ql, hate id even, and have nothing good to say about ql and rage so really, get a clue, esr is evolving and a lot of people are jumping on the bandwagon for change. The rest, you say follow you, have long since stopped posting on esr or simply don't care anymore. You're the last dinosaur of your type on this site. Keep hatin dude. Please get some help fast.

And unlike you, i'm not afriad to admit if i'm off a few numbers, but i'm also not going to agree to something that is simply not true (like your 70% drop theory).

You weren't off by a few numbers, you were off by a few magnitudes.

name them.

http://www.esreality.com/?a=users

you mean, the way you initiated that response by posting a negative review in the form of a link? eh ben?

That was a review of RAGE, and it was the first review to come out. In fact, that post was shortly after the game went live.

meant 13 months obviously, but it again shows how you lied trying to say i did so recently. Also out of the 5 or so reviews there, to say i'm the only negative review is like saying i plus'd someone on a thread here on esr with 5 replies. Don't lie next time, oh wait.. you can't help yourself since your only goal each argument is simply to win. grow up.

That is recently - your entire ESR crusade has gone on during that time. You're the only negative review, and funny enough, everyone who viewed your review labeled it "not helpful".

you're still banned on your first main account.

No, that account doesn't even exist anymore. All accounts were purged after the game went live. I could probably make a new account right now with the name Vedic, if the name isn't already in use.

yes they "ordus" was really pissed i called him an idiot.

Clearly.

Because they seem to think they are doing a good job? Let them know how you reall feel. Who knows you may be able to convince them otherwise?

... and? It's not about convincing them otherwise, as the sales are telling enough. They can't make good games - it's not just about them being wrong, it's about them having no talent. You can't fix stupid.

i don't play multiplayer games anymore. i've always loved storylines over gameplay. So what's your usernames for all the multiplayer games you play?

Accounts don't just disappear. You said that you only play use the name raythenoob, but there are very few references to your name outside of QL. Your steam account shows only activity in CS, and not a whole lot.

you still don't get it do you. i found out incubus is a family friend of sync's and thus was able to indentify a bias sync has, holding him accountable for those actions.

Syncerror has had no action taken against him. incubus has has no action taken against him. 0/2

you on the other hand are banned, don't like ql, hate id even, and have nothing good to say about ql and rage so really, get a clue, esr is evolving and a lot of people are jumping on the bandwagon for change.

Nope, still not banned. How about you? Is your ban gone yet? When was that set to expire? Oh, right... never.

You weren't off by a few numbers, you were off by a few magnitudes.

27,000 and 24,000 is not magnitudes. 40,000 to 3,000 however is... care to revise your original estimate or you going to continue to insist only duelers are playing in ql now?

http://www.esreality.com/?a=users

name them specifically

That was a review of RAGE, and it was the first review to come out. In fact, that post was shortly after the game went live.

you sure?????

http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/3215/artic...n-carmack/

So basically, id are tired of failing to meet the criteria of a good PC game, and they'd rather just appeal to the lowest common denominator.

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2164139

That is recently - your entire ESR crusade has gone on during that time. You're the only negative review, and funny enough, everyone who viewed your review labeled it "not helpful".

recently is in last couple days, week or month, not more than a year ago. There was nothing negative about it, other than the fact that i gave ql a 2 which is true based on the 7 points i made. You however, give ql a 0 everywhere you go and even have gone so far as to say that all of id are incompetent. Your crusade is going nowhere as ql is not shutting down to your shagrin.

No, that account doesn't even exist anymore. All accounts were purged after the game went live. I could probably make a new account right now with the name Vedic, if the name isn't already in use.

your first account was still banned, whether or not it autopurged. maybe if you'd make that account and actually started playing you'd understand the real problems with the game than the ones you assume are still occuring (those that took place during closed beta)

and? It's not about convincing them otherwise, as the sales are telling enough. They can't make good games - it's not just about them being wrong, it's about them having no talent. You can't fix stupid.

they obviously don't read these forums. You should go on irc to #quakelive and query syncerror (work). Or should i copy paste what you just wrote for you? I'm sure they'd love to hear your thoughts.

Your steam account shows only activity in CS, and not a whole lot.

lol i have a steam account? ahhahaha. imposters galore lol. i don't play on steam lol. again, what are your user names. Why hide them? afraid we'll find out you dont play any games at all, only criticize them? Don't worry we're smart enough to have figured that out already. You're just a phoney lol.

Syncerror has had no action taken against him. incubus has has no action taken against him. 0/2

some battles can't be won obviously, but i did try, unlike you, you just roll on your back and give up the moment a game goes bad.

Nope, still not banned. How about you? Is your ban gone yet? When was that set to expire? Oh, right... never.

why not make a new account then? oh right... you can't...

27,000 and 24,000 is not magnitudes. 40,000 to 3,000 however is... care to revise your original estimate or you going to continue to insist only duelers are playing in ql now?

I never said that only duelers play QL. Ever.

name them specifically

Name the ones who do.

you sure?????

Yes, still sure that it had nothing to do with QL. Was there something else that you'd like to be wrong about?

recently is in last couple days, week or month, not more than a year ago. There was nothing negative about it, other than the fact that i gave ql a 2 which is true based on the 7 points i made. You however, give ql a 0 everywhere you go and even have gone so far as to say that all of id are incompetent. Your crusade is going nowhere as ql is not shutting down to your shagrin.

You gave it a 2. You are the only person to give it less than a 10. Where have I rated QL? Nowhere. Unlike you, I don't need to go out and purposely interfere with the game, because I have no ties to it. Your only reason to deal with the game at all is Syncerror.

your first account was still banned, whether or not it autopurged. maybe if you'd make that account and actually started playing you'd understand the real problems with the game than the ones you assume are still occuring (those that took place during closed beta)

I had been playing it up until it came out, and shortly after it did. You seem to think that I was talking about issues of development in closed beta. I wasn't. Again, my observations of closed beta were on ACTIVITY, which was roughly 1% of the invites. Even the people who went out of their way to get into the beta weren't playing it, so it would be silly to expect that it could ever work for the general population. The problems with the game haven't changed, because the problem IS the game. Features, slummers, cheaters, etc... none of that matters.

they obviously don't read these forums. You should go on irc to #quakelive and query syncerror (work). Or should i copy paste what you just wrote for you? I'm sure they'd love to hear your thoughts.

It wouldn't matter if they did read these forums, as they are simply unable to produce quality games. They can't fix mistakes that they don't understand, and there is no market for what you want.

lol i have a steam account? ahhahaha. imposters galore lol. i don't play on steam lol. again, what are your user names. Why hide them? afraid we'll find out you dont play any games at all, only criticize them? Don't worry we're smart enough to have figured that out already. You're just a phoney lol.

That's funny, since I can't find anything related to "raythenoob" that ISN'T you. Not one thing. You changed your name on the steam account, but you didn't remember that it keeps a history of all name changes open to the public. =X

some battles can't be won obviously, but i did try, unlike you, you just roll on your back and give up the moment a game goes bad.

You tried, and you failed. You have yet to succeed in anything, and have lost everything that you had.

why not make a new account then? oh right... you can't...

I can, though. I know that you're jealous, since you're IP banned for life, and I was banned on a single account that doesn't even exist anymore. Again, I can show you how to proxy so that you can bypass your ban. If you care about QL, you should be posting on the QL forums. I assume that you'll decline again, since you never actually cared to begin with.

I never said that only duelers play QL. Ever.

yet you consistently believe the playerbase to be down 70% or roughly 9,000 from a base of 150,000 in march 2009.

Name the ones who do.

You said everyone on this site shares your view that id is incompetent. Did you make it up or are you going to name those people?

You gave it a 2. You are the only person to give it less than a 10. Where have I rated QL? Nowhere. Unlike you, I don't need to go out and purposely interfere with the game, because I have no ties to it.

You have called id incompetent on numerous occasions. You have said these things here and on other forums. Are you saying you like quake live now? and id games? and id as a company?

Your only reason to deal with the game at all is Syncerror.

the bane of my existence is incubus and others like him who have destroyed the new playerbase. Since syncerror doesn't hold any power with ql, as you have admitted, it is pointless to discuss him, which is why i turned my attentions to moving players to pickup games so incubus and co are left playing on empty pub servers, unable to slum. So far, qlpickup.us is doing quite well and it will continue to improve.

The problems with the game haven't changed, because the problem IS the game. .

if the game is the problem then surely id software would like to hear about it so they can fix those problems. Why not contact them?

It wouldn't matter if they did read these forums, as they are simply unable to produce quality games. They can't fix mistakes that they don't understand, and there is no market for what you want.

are you saying they are incompetent?

That's funny, since I can't find anything related to "raythenoob" that ISN'T you. Not one thing. You changed your name on the steam account, but you didn't remember that it keeps a history of all name changes open to the public. =X

please show me this raythenoob account on steam so i can lol all over you ahhaha. i have never played on steam. hilarious. and if it was me, why would i care. just setting it straight. Whoever it is must be getting a lot of troll remarks then. His mistake lol.

edit: this guy? i didn't realize i was playing from belgium. That would explain my 20 ping on va servers in 2009 huh. idiot lol
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197971344491

btw: http://www.gametracker.com/player/Vedic/67.228.59.146:27015/

You tried, and you failed. You have yet to succeed in anything, and have lost everything that you had.

unlike other games, id doesn't allow 3rd parties to interfere with the game with the help of custom maps, mods, etc. If i could do the latter i would. You on the other hand, would simply sit on your hands and mock id software calling them incompetent and unable to make "quality" games.

I can, though

go make that account please and put vedic in your profile signature. Then i'll contact syncerror to verify it.

yet you consistently believe the playerbase to be down 70% or roughly 9,000 from a base of 150,000 in march 2009.

We don't know the base, we only know the percentage.

You said everyone on this site shares your view that id is incompetent. Did you make it up or are you going to name those people?

No, I said almost everyone. You said that people agree with you, are you going to name them?

You have called id incompetent on numerous occasions. You have said these things here and on other forums. Are you saying you like quake live now? and id games? and id as a company?

Where did I say that? I have not gone out of my way to visit other sites to sabotage QL like you have.

the bane of my existence is incubus and others like him who have destroyed the new playerbase. Since syncerror doesn't hold any power with ql, as you have admitted, it is pointless to discuss him, which is why i turned my attentions to moving players to pickup games so incubus and co are left playing on empty pub servers, unable to slum. So far, qlpickup.us is doing quite well and it will continue to improve.

I never once said that Sync doesn't have power. I said that Sync has power that is accountable, and he is doing exactly what his employer wants him to do. You are the one who said that he had unlimited power to control QL, and that id/Zenimax can't stop him.

edit: this guy? i didn't realize i was playing from belgium. That would explain my 20 ping on va servers in 2009 huh. idiot lol

Nice try, but you can change your location at any time, just like you can change your name.

btw: http://www.gametracker.com/player/Vedic/67.228.59.146:27015/

btw what? Are you showing off that I play on one of the best TF2 servers, or that I'm high ranked?

unlike other games, id doesn't allow 3rd parties to interfere with the game with the help of custom maps, mods, etc. If i could do the latter i would. You on the other hand, would simply sit on your hands and mock id software calling them incompetent and unable to make "quality" games.

You couldn't, since you're banned. Why would I take action for a game that is dead, and that I have no interest in? That doesn't make sense.

go make that account please and put vedic in your profile signature. Then i'll contact syncerror to verify it.

Verify it? Just ask him yourself.

We don't know the base, we only know the percentage.

no, you know a percentage based on a percentage based on a percentage based on a percentage. as i told you, the best i can give you is 40% at this point. 70% is off the rocker. whether the data on compete.com is right, its' still relative month to month and as you can clearly see it only went down 13,000 during that time period which is about 33%, not 70. And i'm giving it 40% because of the month (between sept-oct) which has yet been accounted for (probably another 3,000). Which brings it closer to 20,000. not 3,000... But keep dreaming. it might happen this year, but it hasn't happened yet.
http://siteanalytics.compete.com/quakelive.com/

No, I said almost everyone. You said that people agree with you, are you going to name them?

don't try to change the subject. you said almost everyone agrees with you on esr about id, yet i don't see you naming them.

Where did I say that? I have not gone out of my way to visit other sites to sabotage QL like you have.

only one sabotaging ql is you
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.p...ntpage=All

are you saying someone else posted those things?

I never once said that Sync doesn't have power. I said that Sync has power that is accountable, and he is doing exactly what his employer wants him to do. You are the one who said that he had unlimited power to control QL, and that id/Zenimax can't stop him

.

he has no superiors as you know... oh wait.. yeah you don't know

Nice try, but you can change your location at any time, just like you can change your name.

paranoia!!!! actually thats' incubus rofl

btw what? Are you showing off that I play on one of the best TF2 servers, or that I'm high ranked?

are you saying that's you?

Why would I take action for a game that is dead, and that I have no interest in?

you are taking action however, against id's games, this one in particular for some reason. You post in this forum 99% of the time yet you have no vested interest in quake live.

Verify it? Just ask him yourself.

make the account first

no, you know a percentage based on a percentage based on a percentage based on a percentage. as i told you, the best i can give you is 40% at this point. 70% is off the rocker. whether the data on compete.com is right, its' still relative month to month and as you can clearly see it only went down 13,000 during that time period which is about 33%, not 70. And i'm giving it 40% because of the month (between sept-oct) which has yet been accounted for (probably another 3,000). Which brings it closer to 20,000. not 3,000... But keep dreaming. it might happen this year, but it hasn't happened yet.

Compete has already been proven incorrect. Do I need to link you to your support of Google, and you getting schooled on the accuracy of compete AGAIN?

don't try to change the subject. you said almost everyone agrees with you on esr about id, yet i don't see you naming them.

I'm not going to name damn near everyone on the site. If you feel like you can name everyone who agrees with you, do it. Prove it.

only one sabotaging ql is you
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.p...ntpage=All

are you saying someone else posted those things?

I *already* posted on TL before that discussion was there. I have commented only a handful of times, and only in 1 thread relating to QL. There have been at least 3. I have not gone out of my way to attack QL anywhere.

he has no superiors as you know... oh wait.. yeah you don't know

Oh, so he owns Zenimax now?

paranoia!!!! actually thats' incubus rofl

You said that raythenoob is the only name you use, and I can't find anything linking you to anything other than QL. Nothing. While it's possible that this isn't your account, that only shows even less experience with games.

are you saying that's you?

Are you saying that it's impressive?

you are taking action however, against id's games, this one in particular for some reason. You post in this forum 99% of the time yet you have no vested interest in quake live.

I have an interest in ESR. What do you have an interest in? A game you can't play, a community you can't associate with, or a vendetta against someone who made a fool out of you?

make the account first

I don't have to, you can just ask Sync if I am banned.

Compete has already been proven incorrect.

whether it's 100% accurate or not doesn't matter, the data is relative month to month. It's a guideline that shows a trend in and of itself.

i'm not going to name damn near everyone on the site.

you said almost everyone agrees with you on this site in regards to id's inability to make quality games but i dont' see any names. You made the claim. Name them or admit you lied.

I have commented only a handful of times, and only in 1 thread relating to QL.

you're a liar.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.p...age=15#294
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.p...tpage=3#44
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.p...tpage=3#43
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.p...tpage=3#42
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.p...tpage=2#35
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.p...tpage=2#32
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.p...tpage=2#30
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.p...tpage=3#43
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.p...tpage=2#37
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.p...tpage=2#36
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.p...tpage=2#23
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.p...tpage=3#47
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.p...tpage=3#46
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.p...tpage=3#45
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.p...=113103#20
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.p...=113103#17
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.p...=113103#16
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.p...=113103#15
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.p...=113103#10
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=113103#8
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=113103#6

Oh, so he owns Zenimax now?

are you saying the person in charge of ql = the owner of id software? lol? i didn't realize carmack has that many talents while building rockets and working on idtech5.

While it's possible that this isn't your account, that only shows even less experience with games.

as i said, i mainly play single player games. still waiting for you to post your usernames to the multiplayer games you play

I have an interest in ESR.

What interest do you have in ESR. Are you one of the owners of this site? Are you an admin? Are you a stockholder rofl.

I don't have to, you can just ask Sync if I am banned.

if you are not banned why not simply make a new account? oh right, because you can't.

whether it's 100% accurate or not doesn't matter, the data is relative month to month. It's a guideline that shows a trend in and of itself.

It shows a trend of data that is not correct. It's not relative to anything, as none of the data is actually FROM QL, but just estimates from various third-party sources. The argument you are using is support for Google Trends.

you said almost everyone agrees with you on this site in regards to id's inability to make quality games but i dont' see any names. You made the claim. Name them or admit you lied.

I'm not naming most of the site. If you want to do that to support your claim, I'd love to see you try.

you're a liar.

Oh, so it was a handful of times in a handful of threads. I can only ever remember posting in the one thread, but you can clearly see that my comments were far from a crusade.

are you saying the person in charge of ql = the owner of id software? lol? i didn't realize carmack has that many talents while building rockets and working on idtech5.

Syncerror is not management, he is a developer. Carmack is not management, and does not own id software. At least TRY to learn about the company that you're crusading against.

as i said, i mainly play single player games. still waiting for you to post your usernames to the multiplayer games you play

No, you said that you've played Quake since Quake 1, you say that you play Warcraft, and you say that you play Starcraft. You have been saying that other communities are better than Quake, but you are now changing your story to say that you have never been a part of any other community? Could your lies get any more tangled?

What interest do you have in ESR. Are you one of the owners of this site? Are you an admin? Are you a stockholder rofl.

I'm the guy who is going to make it worth visiting for a quality game once you've all left.

if you are not banned why not simply make a new account? oh right, because you can't.

If Syncerror can verify it for you, why not just have him check it right the hell now? If you could get him to verify if I made an account, you would be able to verify if I'm banned. No need for padding your stats, just ask him!

The argument you are using is support for Google Trends.

i use multiple sources, unlike you who is stuck on google trends.

Syncerror is not management, he is a developer. Carmack is not management, and does not own id software. At least TRY to learn about the company that you're crusading against.

i'm not against the company, tha'ts you. I'm against incubus and others like him. You hate all of id and their games are not good according to you. I wonder if you'll say the same for doom 4, and the q1 remake they're considering.

but you are now changing your story to say that you have never been a part of any other community? Could your lies get any more tangled?

where did i say i've never been in any other community. here you go again putting words in my mouth. i play single player games, yes but i have also been part of many modding communities (potbs, wc3, sc, swg). Have you ever modded anything? my guess is no.

I'm the guy who is going to make it worth visiting for a quality game once you've all left.

and why is that? you do realize the admins of this site are fans of quake right? Why would they stick around if quake dies out completely? to cater to YOU? laff

If Syncerror can verify it for you, why not just have him check it right the hell now? If you could get him to verify if I made an account, you would be able to verify if I'm banned. No need for padding your stats, just ask him!

just make an account bro

i use multiple sources, unlike you who is stuck on google trends.

I would use other sources if any of them had actual data. None of them do, and using wrong data for the sake of having multiple sources is only something to do if you want to cover up the real data.

i'm not against the company, tha'ts you. I'm against incubus and others like him. You hate all of id and their games are not good according to you. I wonder if you'll say the same for doom 4, and the q1 remake they're considering.

If you're not against the company, why do you refuse to contact Sync's superiors to report his actions? Either he is the problem, or id is the problem. If it was just him, you're certainly not doing anything to stop him. You're a part of the problem.

where did i say i've never been in any other community. here you go again putting words in my mouth. i play single player games, yes but i have also been part of many modding communities (potbs, wc3, sc, swg). Have you ever modded anything? my guess is no.

You said that the Quake community is worse than all the other communities, when I pointed out that it's not even as bad as games like CS. You just listed 4 communities (2 that are very small), of which there is NO link to your name. None. Now that it's quite apparent that you have no actual gaming experience, what are you going to make up next?

and why is that? you do realize the admins of this site are fans of quake right? Why would they stick around if quake dies out completely? to cater to YOU? laff

Nukm follows SC (as far as I know), and xou is quite a fan of SC. Even if they left, we'd just get new admins. Admins only moderate anyway - this site is run by the users. I can already post major news.

just make an account bro

If you can't even ask him if I'm banned, how would you ask him to verify it? You're banned from the IRC channel and he has you on ignore, eh?

I would use other sources if any of them had actual data.

live and die by the sword eh. the leaderboards and in game awards are credible, you've just refused to give into that data. No my fault you're stubborn.

why do you refuse to contact Sync's superiors to report his actions? Either he is the problem, or id is the problem. If it was just him, you're certainly not doing anything to stop him.

And what exactly can todd do against incubus? incubus is a family friend of sync's who had a close relationship with llilie in the past. Obviously there's a bias there. You think todd doesn't know this? lol.

None.

good to know you have no moddign abilities. i wonder if you would even be good enough for tier 3 in ql.

Nukm follows SC (as far as I know), and xou is quite a fan of SC. Even if they left, we'd just get new admins. Admins only moderate anyway - this site is run by the users. I can already post major news.

yet you don't. you instead waste your time on a game you say is dead.

If you can't even ask him if I'm banned, how would you ask him to verify it? You're banned from the IRC channel and he has you on ignore, eh?

just make an account. or can't you?

live and die by the sword eh. the leaderboards and in game awards are credible, you've just refused to give into that data. No my fault you're stubborn.

All proven inaccurate, or wrong. You checked the activity yourself and only found 100 people online! 100! Even ESR isn't that dead.

And what exactly can todd do against incubus? incubus is a family friend of sync's who had a close relationship with llilie in the past. Obviously there's a bias there. You think todd doesn't know this? lol.

Hey, if members of id are abusing their position, take it up with their superiors at Zenimax. I've already given you the contact information - did you need it again?

good to know you have no moddign abilities. i wonder if you would even be good enough for tier 3 in ql.

I see, you quoted the wrong part, and ignored the rest. There is no links to your name in any of the games you have specified, be it for playing, or modding. Are you going to continue to lie about this, or are you going to back up your statements? How many lies do I have to uncover before you figure out that they aren't working?

yet you don't. you instead waste your time on a game you say is dead.

I'm spending my time on several other games, but coming here to see how right I am always brightens my day. You waste your time on a game that you can't even play, and time is on my side.

just make an account. or can't you?

Can, but won't, and don't need to. Ask Sync yourself, which you said that you'd do to "verify" the account anyway. Are you unable to ask Sync, or are you afraid of the answer?

oh wow not this again

i still play qw every day :/

12 yrs lol

Can't comment from personal experience on the NA scene, but you should definitely check out Warsow: http://www.warsow.net/

#qlpickup.us on Qnet ;)

Y not play them all, got more chance of finding a game then. uscpmpickup is currently more active than regularcpmpickup but that's not saying much

btw i miss mar :<

UScpmpickup is more active than it's European counterpart? I find that hard to believe.

I also miss MAR. There are a few of us around still, not many though. I would say myself, fear, and letalis or whatever he's calling himself these days are the most active. There are a couple others still around, but hardly active.

booze plays every friday!

lol, seriously? That's one of the few days that I don't regularly play. :P

uscpmpickup has pickups daily it seems, think ill start playing more cpm myself now that ill have a little more time to play

fraglove.com is a great alternative

Template thread, template posts, standard posters (ray, coolout)

lol. someone's gotta name the assholes and cheaters in ql

quake2 has been picking up a lil lately.. I usually can find a game anytime I feel like it now. We usually play random TDM pubs and duels. There's a 2v2 tournament happening right now at tastyspleen.net also

I might have to check that out. Q2 has always intrigued me a bit.

i remember u went pro in warsow, you're pretty good imo

I didn't know you could go pro in wsw, but thanks :)

ya, i remember some team picked you up, sounded like you were sponsored or something

pretty sure that was for quake 4 right before it died

oic. regardless you could've gone pro at it if such a thing existed xD not sure why you're not in ql btw. i asked walter about it and he started to make fun of you :(

I guess I never enjoyed q3/ql (or maps) enough to work on getting good enough to compete.. and I don't think you should care what walter thinks :/

take mushrooms. lose your ego. grow up. chill out. all that stuff. it's hard for everybody, but it eventually happens. it's unfortunate that sometimes it may be happens too late.

that said, QL is a festering pile of ass. I love the gameplay and the physics, but the execution is awful. the QL website is garbage, the game is garbage, the netcode is garbage, and .. it just needs to die. it's not fun for me anymore. but still, when you're able to just chill and stop giving a crap, it doesn't really matter.

Yeah, I suppose you're right. It was just getting really bad there for like almost two weeks straight as it just seemed that everyone I ran into pissed me off. I've got much bigger fish to fry.

squeegee your third fucking eye?

Why dont people enjoy playing people better than them? If you dont enjoy a challenge then I dont think this is the correct game for you people. The challenge is the reason a lot of us are here playing this game. I dont know of any other game you can play for over a decade and still find shit tons of people that are better. I guess I could play xbox and beat up on people all day but I dont think that would be fun for very long.

As for the assholes, cg_teamchatsonly 1and if you want there is even a way to turn all chat off.

It's about your initial attitude, i think. Whenever i play against someone i know is a better player than me in all aspects, i go into it without any expectations. If i lose badly - well, i gave it a shot, i lost, no big deal. If i manage to make it close or even win, i'm happy but try not to overblow it - the other guy was probably not trying hard enough and i got lucky. I only get angry when i lose against someone close to my skill level due to my own mistakes and shortcomings.

Steady improvement and a positive attitude is very hard to keep when you're a newbie/slow improver (i'm the latter, and extremely inconsistent to boot) and the game is constructed in a way that you keep getting destroyed without even a chance of winning, especially with the new generation of players raised on games that do their best to make things easy for them.

Whenever i play against someone i know is a better player than me in all aspects, i go into it without any expectations. If i lose badly - well, i gave it a shot, i lost, no big deal. If i manage to make it close or even win, i'm happy but try not to overblow it - the other guy was probably not trying hard enough and i got lucky. I only get angry when i lose against someone close to my skill level due to my own mistakes and shortcomings.

Yep, exactly how it is with me as well

ya thats called human nature. things people like ID don't understand.

and what vets lie about just to try and keep a steady diet of newbs to pwn.

Well first of all, I haven't actually outright accused anyone of cheating, but I have seen some fishy stuff here and there. Not all THAT often though. And secondly, I play people who I KNOW are genuinely better than me all the time, but they're not assholes about it. I also end up playing people who are better than me and are assholes, same with people who aren't better than me and are still assholes. My point was I was just sick of the crap that I was running into and it was happening pretty frequently around the time of that post.

I don't care about assholes, but the amount of players who blatantly cheating is just scary. I run into at least 1-2 guys who cheat shamelessly on a daily basis, that makes me wonder how many of them out there who actually using cheats intelligently. I mean not using radar/wallhack at its full potential or only toggling the aimbot for a few shots, etc... I pretty much reached the level when noone is online from my friend list i just don't bother i do something else instead of going to play on public servers with random people...

Make a clan. Play my clan. Enjoy cheat free Quake.

Two things

1) Play CPM.
2) Grow thicker skin. Assholes are everywhere... not just in video games.