DeX, Shio > Shine :(

glm > shine

Art!
Thats why quake > all

frags? theres none

show me shio winning dfwc

shio never entered dfwc, he would if he did enter it though

wicked

"all the runs are world records" and u make 10 min video out of those... wow

Nice.

The great thing about defragvids is the lack of 2 minute intros. Nice video.

loved it. good music, nice editing, raw skills.

Nice! I love me some vq3

Nice i always liked to watch vq3 defrag povs

nice vid, nice editing, nice music.

sick sick sick sick!
10/10

you pervert germans still love watching people playing with shit

not so impresive as i expect , but ... still good :D

maybe you should drink more

maybe i drink too MORE :D

u might wanna show more impressive runs... they all were World records...

got bored after 2 minutes, but still : sick skills

I feel like a total noob after watching this, cuz i know i will never have skills like that :(

Although, I have a life to live... Oh, well D:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3DoupEiF0Y

It, is ok, but the only thing is that i dont get what they are screaming...

a piece of shit is what you are

Better piece of shit than you tho

oh just quoting the song, never would i ever critize or attack such a magnificent person as you. if i were to compare u and me, id say u are worth 10x more than me

Sry then :D

dont u ever apologize ever again, that shit is beneath u, master

regame.tv

I find CPM defrag a bit more interesting to watch than vq3 defrag. Anyway I always felt envy to people who can move so precise and beautiful like this, with the skill I will never have :)

Nice video :D

I like defrag movies so much. Amazing video work and running

i like the part when he runs from the dark thing, the rest is kinda boring

picture in your profile

quake is beautiful game :D ..is it?

CHEAT!

Nice vid.

really liked it, the music is a bit hit or miss though.

what a shit deserve nothing but 0

I wonder, can you do better? lol

no dude never because i wont competite in gayfrag

don't bother, he is some idiot from poland :-/

tym bardziej ciolku

Usually really enjoy defrag movies. But that one got very boring, very quickly for me.

Lol to CPM lovers... you guys are a bit behind kk?! xD
fkn pro vid!! VQ3 go the raw skillz ;)) loved it.. oh so sik!

great stuff! MOOOOAAAR!

Whats the deal with the cheating accusations in the Youtube comments? How would you "cheat" at defrag? :O

if you aren't cheating, then you aren't trying hard enough. (c) some defragger...

marky or frank can help me out with who said that...

Using scripts/hacks that performs perfect angled strafejumps/RJs/plasmaclimbs and so on. And playing in timescale <1.

That is what I have heard at least. I also read somewhere that some dude got stripped from all his records because it was discovered that he had cheated them.

w3sp

his times were removed because he exploited some bug before the rule was set not to use it(just as did everyone else at the time), they shouldnt have been removed

Ok. What kind of bug?

http://www.q3df.org/news/52
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1887658

Quality drama. Something about +left and demo stitching.

+left means that using yawpitch binds for turning?

I assume so. The miracles of advanced movement didn't open up to me the last 10 years, and probably won't for the next 10 years.

What are you talking about? What you said makes no sense in connection with my question.

+left is with the yawspeed turn thing yes(which everybody used to use), and the replay software is meant to be making a demo offline or so, and then replaying the exact run online, which he never did

Ah, so it's not even some script it's just binding +left and +right? But how does one benefit from this? Is it easier to do turns with the pres(and then hold) of a key rather than moving the mouse? How do the players do this en practice?

Ah, so all official runs have to be done on online servers? I always thought that defraggers just started up a map on their local PC and played it like that (when doing runs alone ofc).

ye its just +left and +right on keys, its much easier for turns, and depending on your yawspeed, it gives better accel than turning normally with mouse and moveleft or moveright, smoother as well

Ah okay thanks. Now I can see why some ppl would say that w3sp didn't cheat :).

well the people who say he cheat usually mean as in bot or script, probably not yaw turning or replay ;p

Did he use bot or script?

no

no?

thats not a bot

no that's just scripted. not that it's any less awesome.

its not.

"I don't give a flyin fuck about your worthless opinion."

some nice lols in there

I don't want to start another drama but i really don't like when someone saying that everyone use this cheat before it was forbidden.

Me and many other players don't use it, simply because we know that it was cheat and we don't try to make fool of ourself by saying "it's only a q3 variable".Those who used it, knew that it is an unfair advantage (perfect turns every fuckin time) because it was keep as secret for over 5 years.

It was forbidden from the moment when someone say "scripts are not allowed in Defrag". Same as "wallhacks" are not allowed in Q3. There is no need to specify if WH is made by some .dll cheat or by using to high values for cg_bobup variable before it was fixed in Cpma/OSP.

Quake 3 wasn't made in "Defrag" on mind, you can even make some Defrag cheats using "Photoshop" ;-]

How is it an advantage to bind +left? You can do it yourself, quite easily.

How is it an advantage when all YOU do is not use it and call people who do cheaters?

Akin to a player who refuses to use rail and calls people who do cheaters.

If you really want to know why(tip: there is also promode physic in Defrag) i can send you pm with detailed explanation, but in case you don't care then let me just wish you Merry Christmas and a happy new year.

that's about right. shine aka grenader used a lookdown RJ script during the 3rd map of dfwc2008 (link to the breakdown-hq thread), there was quite an uproar that he was not banned from the competition for this. he's still a very skilled player though :/

Enjoyed it, even the music for once.

the part with the tele-frames(?) that was very nice editing.

nice.

truly amazing

crap

new ray in town

TIL: people cheat in defrag

that stupid talks are useless!
"cheater" "+left" "+lookdown"
shine isnt cheater so why so many talk about cheats here?
if you truly believe he is, "gimme the fucking proof" ©w3sp.
you know why shio isnt best?
he didnt enter dfwc cause loosing it will make you think like "ah...shio realy isnt best...aww". and that player maked you say "i love shio". just talking, nothing useful.

"no demo no proof"* © -w3sp-

here they are
http://db.tt/0Mb3xcC8
make sure msg here if you find something

whats that exactly? i really dont care much though, youre making a big deal out of this, end of the day shine did cheat in dfwc.

keep your inlove with shio.
Marry Christmas.

you're quite the moron aren't ya?

Actually under the second link you can see w3sp saying that it's obvious cheat and that shine should be banned from dfwc.
I don't know defrag community and I'm not going to judge anybody, but from these two threads I read it looks like another community where players failed to find common conception of what is allowed and what isn't. I've seen games where 3rd party software 'obvious cheats' - you would say were accepted and widely used as well as games where even small changes to the config were considered cheating.
Imho the rules should be as strict as possible and cheating should actually mean 'cheating other players by taking unfair advantage', but I know that many of you wont agree with me. Even in ql many players use rj script and don't find anything wrong with it.

quake is so good but sometimes the customization and full configuration is a negative point. to cheat with console und config seems to be easy.

cool defrag runs, but i didn't like the washed out gfx settings, they were a bit too dark as well.

Those maps are browner than Russia