wow, its nice watching him duel agian even though hes just slumming sort of. I wish he was still dueling at a high level

and his zoom ?

Was wondering about that myself. Seems kind of pointless tbh. I'm guessing he has it loading a different hud when he zooms.

http://www.quakelive.com/forum/showthread.php...ilgun-zoom

ty

Once again, stermy rocks it. Looks very nice so far!

mostly pub ca, zzz

Fun to watch. Cheers stermy

i freaked out when i saw he had the q4 style zoom :D

cant figure out how to use it tho

pretty easy if you have the hud file installed, etc

seta ch_q4zoomxhair "0"
alias "+v_q4zoom" "ch_q4zoomxhair 1"
alias "-v_q4zoom" "ch_q4zoomxhair 0"

bind (key) "+zoom;+v_q4zoom"

Got a pic of how that zoom looks in QL? I'm curious.
Thanks

well since u spent all this time googling it, im gonna be nice and link it

I made it, but someone already posted the link in here. Seriously, have a look at the comments :s

Sorry guys, was looking from work and those pics just wouldn't show (firewall and shit like that). Thanks again :)

make sure to follow his channel on TwitchTV, you'll get an email whenever he goes live :D

trying to convince ESR admins to make a stream directory on the front page, but doubt it'll happen ;(

YUR JUSLEZZ

http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/114449

A stream list would have been far better than a wiki.

There has been a lot of discussions about it recently, however.

stermy started sterming gameplay

It was very fun to watch him play CA. Pretty sick lg, too.

I thought the same

stermy Alessandro Avallone
Tonight at 8pm CET I will stream ESH TDM final (colwn vs nEu) while playing - tune in to watch some @quakelive it.twitch.tv/stermytv

any other streams avail? which do not use twitch tv? (stutters and is totally unwatchble for me)

same here

stermy \o/

"Alessandro Avallone 3:55 AM
thanks for posting on ESR
3:55 AM
tonight I will stream our TDM final
3:55 AM
with teamspeak and my team"

awesome!

The tdm is going to start soon !

This is actually pretty good, i thought it might be a little boring watching random games etc, but it's not..

whats the point... yeah stream when everyoen stopped palying lmaooo

You should stop being a raythenoob and start talking about how big you are.

If only this would have happened two years earlier. Props to stermy though, as always. Good guy.

it's good to see some initiative, streams could hopefully bring in more players. and if not, at least the current players have something to entertain them :)

Good Stream

was awesome with the teamspeak! moar stuff like this plz.

nvm

http://www.twitch.tv/stermytv/b/305001511

starts at 1h20min or something. hf

Huh, how did you know i asked for a vod :o? thank you nonetheless ish!

S T E R M Y
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He deserves a fuck load of credit for what he's done for the game. The stream is amazing. Really can't wait for UGC 2!

what? will there be a UGC 2?

thanks guys, I will stream almost everyday from now on. If you got any requests or ideas for the stream, let me know.

less CA \:D/

Duels please :D

#TDMPICKUP :O

<3. More duel and TDM =)

maybe you should get into the habit of talking while playing training duels like some of the sc2 streamers (i think?) do. Also just stream in 4:3 if you prefer playing that way

this +1

He has to stream in 16:10 because of some technical issues iirc. He actually changed his resolution because he wanted that stream to work and is now trying to get used to it.

also add some text of what we're seeing somewhere so people know whether it's just some sparring, an actual league/cup match etc

pickups + voicecom stream

that was really nice

yup =)

colwn + voicecom stream was even better :)

As Anonymous said, if you could commentate some duels that would be really awesome!

wow 1st post after 7 years :D

is there a list of future streamz anywhere?

gj stermy!:D do more ctf :D

Nice that it finally works to stream well. Tried alot about a year ago but it just wasnt possible without alot of stuttering making it unplayable. Valid effort, but I'm gonna be very surprised if this takes off.

My suggestion is to do proper duel analysis, it's the only thing that is even the slightest interesting with quake as it right now. That way you might pull some viewers from the other games. Pub ffa/ca/tdm just are to boring/unimpressive to get viewers to stay imo..

actually that matters a tiny bit.

Just an example. Hotshotgg's stream is easily the most populated one of the interwebz. He makes more than $20k a month just on advertising, gets sponsors for his clan and so on; but he's the most annoying person in the world and gives 0 insights of his game.
He got his e-fame because he once was the #1 ranked player in League of Legends, the game which dominates streams everywhere, and people stayed watching him because he raged a lot and also there was e-drama coming up every month. Remember that game has more than 12 international LANs a year and there are several major online cups every week, so conflict between teams and players makes it a lot more entertaining.

Objectively, watching LoL's solo queue is boring, the streamer can't be more unpleasant to watch and you learn nothing from it.
This is Television in the end, and it works the same as real TV. Only 2 things matter: catching the audience, which can be done with a little help from 2gd (for example featuring stermy's stream on twitch.tv), and keeping it by being entertaining to watch.
Strenx would be a great streamer for example, but don't expect big numbers because this game has only 67k active players (according to qlranks CA stats, which are being tracked since only 2 months ago) and LoL has 32 million registered accounts.

To be honest there are only 2 LoL streamers who give decent advice, and none of them had lots of viewers until they joined a major team, but even then they aren't close to the said numbers.

Also, it might have a little tiny bit to do with that LoL has 15mill registered accounts whereas ql has 44,613 duelers, 8,452 tdmers, 66,831 caers players since whenever they started tracking it in 2011.

I agree what you are saying. But here we are talking about aiming for none quake players to get their eye on the stream, and I just don't see that happening without some depth to it.

bah I was editing the post.

I play LoL since closed beta and when it was released it had less players than QL for quite a while, but streams had massive numbers even then.

This is one of the dozens of reasons why QL didn't succeed, but this one has nothing to do with id software being the worst company ever.
If QL streams were feasible when justin.tv started then this game might have at least twice the players.


the only thing I'm saying is that depth and competitive stuff won't catch the masses, since that only matters for current quake players and for outsiders that will watch at most 30 minutes and then leave. What matters is people watching it constantly so they get interested in the game and start playing it.

For that the stream has to be fun to watch 24/7, nothing else, but there's a lot of competition nowadays, from girls who play almost topless to guys who give away stuff every day.

judging by the ql awards there are also multiple millions of ql accounts:

Testing One..Two..
Complete 1 online match.
* Date awarded: 03/14/2009
* 195 friends (87% of total) have earned this award
* 553597 players (22% of total) have earned this award

Obviously LoL has a lot more players but comparing account numbers with those of active players doesnt make sense.

http://riot-web-static.s3.amazonaws.com/image...c_full.jpg

11,500,000 active (monthly) players, against QL's 67,000 according to qlranks.

Those 67,000 are the amount of accounts that joined a CA match in the past 2 months, which is when qlranks started tracking that mod. This means that method won't be reliable in 6 months or more for example.

I think there was other award that was won by more people, but it wouldn't be an accurate representation of total accounts anyway.
Playing one online match is accurate though, because a huge percent of the total accounts weren't even used once because of network problems on id's side: massive queues when the game went open beta and when it went live as well.

the fuck is this? thats not a source.
If what fazz is saying is true - that there are 15mil accounts I don't believe that 11,5 of them play on a monthly basis.

there are 32.5m total accounts as of november 2011, there were 15m as of July 2011.
The game grows insanely fast considering it was released in october 2009. I'd say it'll surpass WoW's numbers this year and become the most populated pc game ever. To put it into perspective, so far sc2 has sold 3.38m copies globally, according to vgchartz
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1495692
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/youve-grow...ssive-game
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Legends

What happens is that LoL is highly addictive and has lots of incentives to keep you playing at least once every 2 weeks, for example content updates (1 champ, gameplay balance, skins, improving some older content of the game and other aspects, etc.) and elo decay. Plus there's the sensation of achievement when you play, because of earning xp and ip (in-game currency for buying champions and runes), individual and team ladders if you play ranked games, and a lot more.

Also there are online streams so when you aren't playing you are watching the game (or youtube vids or contest made by the developers), several weekend cups with thousands of dollars on the line, national tournaments, and there are international LAN events every month, all sponsored by the developer (which gave away usd$5,000,000 just on prizes. Top notch teams earn quite a lot on sponsor money and of advertising in their streams).
All the information is featured and integrated into the game client so you can't miss it.

It features bigger updates about every 6 months, yearly seasons and so on.

Thx for saving me some time.

As shown it's just not comparable, LoL numbers are just insane.

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first thing that came up in google: "The average farmville player is a 43 year old woman".

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I'm guessing 99% of those duelers are in EU.

On a given night in NA I only see maybe 15 or 20 people playing duel. About twice that in clan arena, nobody in TDM, nobody in CTF, and one or two full FFAs. :(

yeah, strenx should do it too, would be awesome.

him commenting his own game and trolling everyone while playing duel.

the other thing that gets lots of viewers are trolls, moonmeander comes to mind.

every now and then i watch his stream for a couple of minutes, and he recently got banned for abusive behaviour in HoN. which ofcourse made the chat go wild.

normal HoN streams dont do it for me. but this guy's so retarded, its entertaning to watch.

You underestimate it a bit imo because he is/was a famous pro and not only in ql but also in painkiller/quake4 etc. and right now there are almost 500 people watching him playing the game.
The most famous sc2 streamers don't commentate either still they got a lot of viewers because they are either really good (stephano) or have a huge fanbase (idra). People want to see how a pro plays and does stuff (zoom).
Cooller would probably get over 1000 people to watch him and he doesn't need to say a word.

I'm surprised it hasnt got more viewers since it got spammed alot on twitter by influential people. However, I think it's unfair to judge it after 1 or 2 days. If he still has 500 viewers in 1 month he did better than my expectations.

I still think he would get most subscribers if he does it the day9 way, he could do it since he is a charismatic and out spoken guy aswell.

Time will tell!

Didn't know about the twitter promotion. I assumed that he got the viewers from advertising on esr and posting the stream on other sides..
I agree tho that he could get a lot more if he did something like you mentioned. Actually I'd rather see a live duel commentary coming from you as you are one of those highly entertaining players :D

I got information that he uses another pc and even another connection to do this. I dont have those resources, nor do I really have the love for the game that I feel that I would need to keep something like that up. I tried a year ago but couldn't get it to working and gave it up. Sorry...

You don't need a second PC.
Nice Guide

I saw that it was working ok 1 week ago, but xsplit still crashes alot. I thought it was fixed one I saw this stream but apparently it's not.

stream more t4 games imo

You wouldn't need a second connection with a swedish upload rate :x

i thought he uses a second connection because on his normal one even playing alone can be a hassle.

have no idea about the motivation

i don't understand

If he were to try to stream on the same terribad connection he plays on he'd have to stream in gameboy mode otherwise he'd ping shit and spike all over the place so he got another terribad connection for that.

dem terribad connections....

some feedback

watching pub ca is really dull, i dont think anyone will stick around for that. i dont really watch player streams but when i do its strictly white-ra's sc2 stream and he plays only top level duels. you should focus on duel with or without commentary against good players, not against some mid skill pubbers that even i could beat. or maybe 4v4 from clan games but since youre not in a clan that practises its not really possible, pickup is okish but not that great

If i understand correctly then he streams whenever he plays - for fun or not. If he had a show then yes, it would be better if he focused, but in this format it doesn't matter.

it matters in the sense that no one will watch it in the long run

yeah, now that i think of it, true. needs some scheduling.

white-ra's stream is tha bomb, what league you in?

i dont play sc2

what a shit config Oo

My thoughts:

So far, it's surprisingly fun to watch you play.

But I'd rather see a real schedule and know what's coming up. It will get tedious to check your stream every other day and see if it's something interesting.

I'd like a schedule like this:

1) Monday and Wednesday from X pm till Y pm: duel practice with e.g. Spartie.
If it's too hard to verbally commentate during the match, you could atleast talk to us between maps. Maybe play a map 3 or 4 times in a row and everytime tell us which mistakes you made and what you'll do differently in the next round. Then spam a smiley everytime the thing you planned to do works out. ;)

After playing, you could also watch your demo and elaborate on it. The match analysis should work even better if you do it right after you played it.

2) Tuesday and Thursday from X pm till Y pm: CTF practice with the team you'll form for the CTF LAN in April. :D
Preferably with team voice communication.

3) TDM with colwn every 2-3 weeks? Showmatch against some other all-star team?

or like teamliquid has, a sidebar with live userstreams :p
like http://liveql.com/ but better because people visit the site all the time.

Ever heard of just having fun?! The only thing he gains from your list is pressure and soon boredom. Just let the guy play whenever he wants to and what ...

Huh? Naturally, I'm talking from a viewer's perspective and not from his perspective.
And I think the viewer's perspective is useful information to him because he wants to keep his viewers interested.

I didn't tell him how he's supposed to have fun, if that's how you read my post. And I didn't tell him how to schedule his playing either, I just pointed out that imo having some sort of a fixed schedule would help keeping viewers interested which I reckon is his goal.

Besides, he is a professional gamer so he obviously doesn't purely stream for fun but rather for exposure.
I just gave some advice on how to get more exposure by pointing out what I and possibly others would like to see. What is the harm with that?

Did you read his post in this thread?

If you got any requests or ideas for the stream, let me know.

Y I read it. I just misread your post and rather thought of it as an demand than advice :P

You should incorporate webcam with mic on the stream, so talking about what's going on while you're playing. Doesn't have to be a constant stream, just some comments now and then would be better (so we know you're concentrating on playing :P). I think thats the most important thing to make it more entertaining because it lets ppl see your personality and style etc much better. I liked watching idra's streams because he did commentary and I don't even play sc2.

edit; and actually what you did with colwn was even better, but thats only when all 4 of u are around to play and have an opponent :)

why did u play with those spanish dickheads anyway

but ins is a portuguese!

They're all mexicans anyway.

Nice stream and really nice player. Seems to answer the majority of the questions asked towards him and actually takes some time out of his schedule to ask for viewers opinion on the stream and mode and such.

I watched a bit the other day, nice :) Although the quality is not the best?

You're one of the most fun players to watch stermy, keep it up. Also, 53k viewers currently.. wow. There were only about 2k last I checked :p

I wish he had joined zotac and streamed his games

all you fools hatin on the one guy who could make streaming quake popular are the reason that this game is never going to be successful.

the community is literally toxic, its poison, and its destroying QL from the inside out and has been ever since day 1, sync and sponge just helped it along.

this stream is brilliant, fuck off.

So, if the community is so bad, why are you here?

to tell us to fuck off, duh!

he's right a bit, stermy does something nice, and ppl suddenly expect him to do much more :-0 eg scowl post

I didn't expect him to do much more, I gave him tips how to keep his viewers interested in the long run.
I don't know how you can read my post differently, but apparently you can. ;)

He gave constructive feedback after the streamer asked for it, dunno what you are talking about

... what does him being right have to do with it? If the community is so bad for Quake, why is he a part of the community?

on another note, you (z4t01) should be nicer to stermy, he is one of the best persons in ql, promoting the game and always being nice to everybody.

His stream is really nice. If you want to keep hatin on him, pls go to another site, because here we all love him

ps: fuck off

did u just wrote the same as this usa guy, but using a bit more elegant vocabulary? :D

I was referring to z4t01's hating. If he doesn’t like stermy, he chose the wrong site to post.

you try too hard to get people to like you

What is wrong with you? Virtually nobody hates stermy (especially since UGC) and almost all of the comments in this thread are positive.

wtf are we reading the same thread?

Stop hating haters. Especially when they don't even exist :(

u should write hiphop :P

I thought this was quite a good idea. Not much time for playing games these days and I found myself actually enjoying watching Stermy play some 1v1 every now and then (even if it's not live). He's got a somewhat entertaining style and seems to put some effort into answering questions from different people.

I guess the only drawback is that people currently don't know when he'll stream next time.

Thnx to stermy for taking time to do this :) Its appreciated! Would be cool if u could do some showmatches against some of your quake buddies, like tox, winz, spartie or even cypher. Maybe talk a little about the games afterwards on stream with our without your opponents.

No one will think badly of you even if you do not win all your games ;) afterall as i understand it you dont play with your usual settings when streaming.

And it would be fun to see some 2v2 tdm aswell, especially if you play with some of your colwn mate and uses voicecomm. Anyway just some ideas, i enjoy the stream whatever it is.

Why is he playing at 800x600, shit I use 1920x1080, my native res. Am I missing some useful tip about low-res here?

Probably habit.

I like the pixel look dunno about others with lowres :P

Low res feels more responsive for me, especially 640x480.

I was under the impression that lcd monitors respond best at their native resolution ?

They do, it just used to be like that with CRT, a lot of players still haven't adapted (yet). :)

My screen won't do more than 60Hz in native.

4:3 aspect ratio

high res sucks!!!!1111

Can any monitor out there handle 120hz under 1920x1080? He must be playing with 120hz... unless he has some shit monitor (75hz), then it's just a habit :]

Not any, but I'm pretty sure stermy has a 2233rz or another one.

Do you know maybe what highest res can one use (on the best LCD's out there) and still have 120hz?

I'm not sure, most of them have 1920*1080 as their native res, I don't know if there are bigger screens with higher res available.

Yes plenty. My Alienware is 1920x1080 120hz. I think almost all 120hz LCDs nowdays are 1920x1080 :D

BenQ XL2410T
ASUS VG236H
Acer HN274H
LG D2542P-PN

:o

Just tried installing that Q4 zoom. Keep getting this error when pressing zoom:

"ALIAS +v_q4zoom not found"
"ALIAS -v_q4zoom not found"

Altho I have added these lines to my config:

seta ch_q4zoomxhair "0"
alias "+v_q4zoom" "ch_q4zoomxhair 1; +zoom"
alias "-v_q4zoom" "ch_q4zoomxhair 0; -zoom"
bind SPACE "+v_q4zoom; +zoom"

Also I have the q4zoom.menu in my UI folder.


Any ideas? Much appreciated :)

put it into your config, writeprotect it, then open ql

Didn't change a thing. Still getting those stupid error messages.
I'm totally out of ideas...

create a seperate cfg file, put the crosshair stuff in there and exec it ingame.

It's a bug, you probably have unaliasall somewhere in your config. For my aliases I had to type them in console in-game for it to remember them :/

If I type the alias by hand it says that the +v_q4zoom and -v_q4zoom aliases already exist. Altho deleted from my cfg.

in rage?

Do \unaliasall then type them. If that doesn't work then I dunno, keep fucking with it. Maybe they'll fix the bug in the next xmas update.

btw I don't think you need quotes around the alias name

No, in QL.

Okay. So I created a new config file (based on a config from stermy).

Now I have loaded the 4 commands in my config.
I have added the q4hud-zoom.menu to the UI folder.
I have added a line in my custom HUD that says "loadMenu { "ui/q4hud-zoom.menu" }"

That solved the error messages in-game, but when I zoom I just get the regular zoom, not the custom one.

Help?

Nevermind, I figured it.

Just added the 2 aliases again (altho they were already in my config) via the game console.

Now it works.

Thanks for your ideas :)

this stream is getting even more awesome. right now av3k and strenx playing duels and talking through their decisions. great stuff.

Yeah I watched a bit earlier, it's improved since the last time I checked. The quality is now amazing and I love that they are discussing it as well.

The best QL stream I've seen, really appreciate it.

THIS IS AWESOME STUFF.
Thank you stermy, avek, strenx and whoever else is standing in this.

who would have thought that so far avek is easily the best quake streamer

This is so awesome. Although if announced a day or more before such a pro "meeting" stream would get at least 3 times more viewers :)

Great casting by Av3k

Tonight show was great! I hope they enjoyed it as well, so that it can be repeated.

i got shat on :(

Very good stuff!!

dont know if you read this stermy, but why ingame clock is counting down? and hitbeep 1

and no weapon bar

missed avek :(

but saw some strenx and stermy.. was awesome, much appreciated!

ah, found it..

http://de.twitch.tv/stermytv/b/306831527
about 1 hour in

idd.
Stermy & strenx, read this: this was awesome!! More!

I was actually really impressed with strenx, very good advices and tricks. But the thing is, he makes everything looks so easy cause his aim is just unreal. So if he makes a rare mistake its much less punishing cause he outaims almost everyone with a few exceptions, especially online.

Very good stuff from stermy, strenx and avek :) thnx

I felt the same. Spawnfraging is so easy when you can kill him with lg before he hides around the corner :)

`sup guys, I started to upload some of the most interesting highlights on Youtube aswell.

Strenx vs Ins on aerowalk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA0cJB1e-O8

Av3k showing you how to do it like a boss on ztn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA0cJB1e-O8

..more coming up later

Avek's video is very funny :)

i would suggest you to name your vods a little bit better. Atm every video of you is "Professional Gamer stermy - www.stermy.com". You have no Idea what kind of stuff you are going to watch. Ofc you play QL, but you better summerize what games, TDM, Duel, Zotac.

Btw: great to see you on twitch! You should place a donation button for your new Hairstyle or smth like that :)

really great cast by avek. hes easy to understand and his explonations are very good, but i think he have to focus more on what hes saying instead of his game and therefor losing timings etc.

would love to see a demo-cast against an opponent like cypher =)))

Demo cast isnt the same and strenx was giving great in-depth explanations as well whould like to see him/them casting against real opponents, not ins (sry) :D

na ofc its not the same, but i think it would make it easier on aveks part, so that he could focus more on the in-game stuff rather than finding the right words so explain it

you don't put on youtube the 2 matches where you loose to avek?

ic ..

Must watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA0cJB1e-O8

Please please please ESR admins do a "featured streams" box on the left of the site, preferably at the top. Much like CLG does - http://clgaming.net/