nice one :D

trololol

:DD

flying over this i read gouda instead of gooda. awesome

same thing?

Sad CTFers :D

\o/

Awesome. :)

what game ?

(Major News: QL)

is organizing another 4v4 TDM

Lets work this out. :P

minigolf 4v4

You worked it out, congrats! You win a pyramid lego building set.

just. does. not. compute.

Signed.

\o/

madcatz mouse feet for 2nd place gogogogo

awesome! HoQ is in

sponsored by madcatz? well colour me surprised. gl to everone

Format: Single elimination Bo3 :(

SEARCHING TDM TEAM FOR MadCatz Madness Tournament 4v4 TDM

Can sub

Good one, this should have quite a few sign ups and right before DHW :>

its after

k :p

<3 esportsheaven

ZIS IZ MADNESS

I can't sign up on their bullshit page.. I have like a hundred different users on badly designed esports websites by now. this is getting ridiculous.

you can't sign up as u prolly don't have GUIDs entered for each player and u don't have enough players in your squad.

I meant I couldn't sign up as a player. took me six tries in three different browsers before it registered.

Awesome - Team Mamut signed

come on, more teams! :( i bet half the teams dont wanna sign up cause of the tournament format and/or single division

It seems it has to be played in one day so ... :(

Read the schedule ?

never mind I'm stoned as fuck \ :D /

not only you :D i fell asleep in my chair, just woke up feeling dazzled

Either that or blaming drugs for your stupididty which is ironic as you would not be taking drugs if you were not stupid to begin with.

Yeah, drugs...

We (aCtion) can't play thursdays, that's why we didn't signup.

Well, i can't play on the first thursday..

Might be cause of tornado as well :)

SEARCHING TDM TEAM FOR MadCatz Madness Tournament 4v4 TDM

Tip admins, make a rule about severe warping.

YOU MONSTER

You're not too bad actually, there are far worse! :D

not anymore

same :P

colwn signed up...

well... that was fun :|

on the online

wp colwn, gratz

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Nice to see colwn sign up aswell :) Hopefully we got see them on other maps then ospdm5

wow, nice! so many teams!

Anyone streaming?

i think they are but not sure though..
http://www.own3d.tv/uaShadow

Ok thank you

LEAVE MAMUT ALONE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc

rofl mamut

go vasnur

what happened?

mamut and someother team, kicked vor 3-5times off the server today because in one of the previous casts vor said mamut is stupid for letting morphious play on 100ping when they had a backup player with good ping on hand...mamut was apparently listening in on the stream at the time and complained about it ingame

obvious cheaters imho, but thats just me

also, apparently, they were the only ones that had zeroQL playing for them on a fakeacc and denying it

Not true.

In the previous game that was casted by vor, he suggested that snake was faking and zeroql played for him. Which resulted in some unwanted tension. And yes, it affected our play.

I don't recall anyone denying zeroql's part but I might be wrong on this one, anyway he played only prac games with us.
Our game was streamed by zoot on the 2nd stream.

Eventually, our demos are easily accessible (ie EC match reports).

I didn't say anything about someone in your team being zeroql, I said zeroql had played for you in pracs and that you had lied to your opponents and said it wasn't him. So you must have misunderstood me or never even listened in the first place.

grow some skin

grow some plants

then, combine the skin with the plants

PLANTMAN IS BORN

D=

>:D

Our game vs winner of match "skillz - infms" will be played on monday 20:00cet

Riddler, vor was getting kicked by the team because he was insulting it's members and accusing of cheats, which doesn't help before playing immportant match, also untill there are no proves that we cheat, we should stay clean and commentators shouldn't say stuff like that. The part with 100 ping was with no way out, as snake raged at us and didn't come back when we tried to reach him. Next thing, as far as I know zeroql never played in immportant game for us, only pcws in which i also doubt that the team even knew it's him before snake said so. But I can't be sure about that as I was a bit inactive when all this shit came out. Only snake really knows zeroql from our team and since he's no longer in mamut (because the zeroql thing) You can't blame us forver for what he did and You should finally quit that topic because it wont happen again for sure. (Also You must be insane to think we would let zeroql play in league matches, every team wants to get good by improving and reaching the goal on it's own, I doubt anyone would like to recruit zeroql avek krysa and tox just to win the cup and so You could watch the games instead of playing.) Another thing, I probably know Disrepute and vor (a bit less) more than most of the players in quake live as i played with them in iMmune for years, in other games. And our whole team never cheated and was very against it, I even caught some cheaters in the past and trust me, I would never be in a team which cheats and i'm pretty sure that Dis knows that since I spoke with him and he said that juvenile was accused of cheating for like a year untill people finally got over with it and said he's just good and probably the same thing must happen with us, it's quite funny tho because people complain that there are no new teams who could compete with the top tier like 4k etc, and when one team like that finally shows up everyone say they are cheaters even tho nobody has any proves.. and they want to destroy it, so think twice before You accuse someone without anything to back yourself up, otherwise You will kill the game slowly because there will be no new teams, every new clan without known players will be called a cheaters, because hey they couldn't get that good! it's impossible, only known players and pros can do that! And it's not like we just came from the underground and were good, we practied to reach it and now clueless people just repeat that we cheat because they lose pcws and they are mad, that's how i see it. So give me the proves finally or stay shut untill you do that... About the stream, if there will be no insulting us etc, then there will be no problem with lvlup on mamut vs 4k game as we have nothing to hide, You can get demos from each our game, even public one.

omg it's the Great Wall of Poland !

okay im not gonna read this.

If you were watching last night, I was kicked before I even fully loaded into the server, so I'd said nothing. I never said anything about your team using cheats when we covered your game against aCtion several months ago. I already explained what I said (and I said it on stream not in-game), that your team used zeroql in a prac and attempted to hide that from your opponents, I probably added that playing with a known cheat makes you cheaters in my view.

What I did do in that game months ago, was respond to the insults from your retarded team mates, so don't start arguments or start insulting people WHILE PLAYING if it is going to distract you. Pretty simple really.

saying (insulting) things in PUBLIC (streams) like scumbag team, pretty idiots, retardeds (even here you mentioned), shit eating cunts, cheaters and so on ... is not acceptable for us, so we dont wont to have anything from ppl like you so sorry you were and you are going to be kicked/ignored everytime ... internet hero ... imagine if someone, who wants to give us something (maybe a sponsor) is watching a stream and he have to hear all that crap about us ... come on, think of that

Scumbags, because you used zeroql and said it wasn't him.
- we used a merc for one pcw, after that we found out it was zq. So we banned him and kicked snake out of the clan.

Idiots, for playing with a high ping player, constantly timing out holding the game up, despite having a sub.
- we would sub him if we would HAVE someone to. Only one who could play was Dozer, but he dont play official matches.

So think again and dont lol around.

If you feel lying is the best way to handle this, then keep going.

miso doesn't cheat in any way shape or from, never has, was EC class tdm player in q3 days and i doubt most of his clanmates cheat or have ever done so, especially dozer,morph...

i don't agree with miso on this or how they handled it, but they do have a sponsor and if they want to grow they need good "publicity", so i sort of understand the out-burst.

Vor, unlike most others, you have an influence, lots of people take what you say too heart, your direct and unfiltered comments on stream are much welcome, but maybe sometimes you take it a bit too far.

Don't abuse your power, paranoia is a pandemic in ql as it is :)

Im not necceserily speaking about this case exactly, its ment in general.
This is coming from a long time fan of yours, so i hope you take the criticism constructively as thats how it was ment.

Clearly they knew it was zeroql playing though.

lies

Pretty sure I was being called a nigger inbetween kicks last night as well, I bet all the sponsors looking at you (??) love a bit of racism though.

What should i say. Do you have a car?

Purely out of curiosity to see where this goes, yes I have a car.

Ok, i thought u are still living in the past. We could buy you a bmw with our sponsors money, wich one we got it in all that time. But oh, no way, why can mumet get anything, they are scumbags ...

Jesus christ, this is fucking weird.

u are right

it was snake! hahahahaha

vor_ - mamut battle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XC7g0H2QkU&t=0m25s

I have known morph a long time and he is trustworthy and really against cheats, so I trust that none of mamut would be playing with him if they did.

I think last night they were silly to kick us (and I say us because its me and vor together) as there really was no reason to, and in the end it just made them look bad.

The funny thing is after that time where they did have a bit of a debate on the server, we have covered a mamut game and there were no issues, so it did seem a bit random.

PlanB were also to blame and wanted vor removed basically because of a really strange situation.

In this case we played in a JeeSports Friday night TDM cup and streamed our comms. We played planB and vor at some point said one of them cheated. This is something that literally happens every game we play with pretty much all of our players. We have said people like deus cheat, it is just rage and means nothing.

However they took it to heart and kinda went mental at him on IRC. Strange thing was (as vor mentioned on the stream last night), much of IRC was also accusing the same player, so I mean take from that what you will.

Either way I don't think the commentary team should interact with the players on the server or have an impact on their game and we will try not to in future.

VOR BEEING VOR, HOW UNUSUAL !!

QQ

Hm I have no idea what happen yesterday, but I'll sort everything out with the team to clear this silly situation finally and so we could all get along, because this whole thing with u arguing with them is a bit old already and we should leave it in the past. Sorry for the kick vor:). I look foward for a great game with 4k and even better streaming work from lvlup on it ;).

Back to the topic: Nice tournament, gj!!

All I can see here is ppl claiming for an anti-cheat system :)

no it's an anti-a1pert system!

Yes the cup is very nice :), thank You for it :D. You are right, I wish there was finally some anti-cheat system :d... Anyone knows if there will be one or not?

The teams shouldn't be the one deciding whether or not a respected streaming organization(?) like lvl^ could cover it or not, should be up to the admins. I'd understood it more if it was some beginner-streamer that just happens to be from the same country as the opposing team or such, but in other cases, admin should just man up and step in!

Nice tournament anyway, looking forward to next thursday!

noone was against streaming overall(Zoot did it actually in the end and noone was gonna kick disrepute), both teams were against vor, who was shittalking about both teams in the past.

As I said, I don't think it should be up to the players.

Yes and you guys are such saints and of course said nothing to me. Upset by words on the internet, unreal.

I wasnt even online yesterday and in the morning found out that you banned me from irc channel

Yes, like your team has banned me from streaming your games. I can be equally childish.

yes, teams can't decide who will stream and who not (teams can complain that they are afraid of spec coaching for some unofficial streams, but still up to admins to decide; lvl^ is completely another thing though and proved casters). Even in rules we have it covered that teams must provide pass of the servers and can't really have final word in the casters decision (and about lvl^ it's out of the question).

Still I wasn't aware of the situation as mamut players were complaining vor insulted them (I suspected in the yesterday's match), which on the other hand shouldn't happen as well; casters shouldn't have any direct contact with teams and surely not speak something that would affect certain players and in the end, the outcome of the match. So I let them play it without vor (dis refused to do it alone, understandably), as without all facts we could have make more problems by giving double defloss for teams that potentially were right and actually had reason to complain.

After reading all this, it apparently hasn't happened and they had no right to make a fuss about it. Therefore, rules will be updated so no more similar problems should happen: streamers will have to make sure they DON'T interact with the players in any way (if it ever happened) and they don't bad-mouth teams as most of them care about their reputation (this seems to be the biggest problem here and I'm not sure if it can be "requested" from casters so easily as they provide stream in their free time and are not payed for it), while players WON'T be allowed to have any saying about the casters on stream (or will have to provide VERY good reason why they don't want streamers/casters on their game; still on admins to decide).

After all if teams decided to join the certain cup, they also agreed to follow its rules and regulations. If admins say streamer is allowed, none of the teams can question that. We will have sanctions about it in the future, and hopefully prevent this unsportsmanlike behavior from happening again (not to mention this is cup with money involved and sponsor wanting max. exposure, so teams ABSOLUTELY CAN'T have any decision about casters on the stream).

This has no sense for me. As a viewer i want casters to feel free to say what they think even if they think someone is cheating or not (obv no insulting). And we cannot judge vor for his words as a player. This is going against the community, only because players don't focus on their game and act as child? Give them an script for not "doing bad-mouth teams as most of them care about their reputation".
Btw i heard a caster saying Robben is better than messi, we should ban him since messi cares about his reputation...

So basically what I said.

not true. there are limits. If he would say robben is an idiot, i would give a hand into the fire that they will remove him from casting and he have to pay a penalty. There are a lot of situations like that, just google it.

When there will be VODs?

deith from mamut will get banned eventually, dont wanna start an argument but just remember i said this when it finally happens, good night

7 months ago:
raw: you'll get banned, it's just a matter of time.


I guess it's enough time to even forge my cheats.

well you dont just go from average like 30% lg to hitting like 45 some games and completely smashing pickups without some sort of help now do u?

I had 30% in cpm pickups with 60 hz 3 years ago.

But this is what it is, if you play 10 years one game you sometimes can't stand changes.

dont know what you mean by "But this is what it is, if you play 10 years one game you sometimes can't stand changes. "

Can't You guys talk like civilized people and leave the past in the past and finally shake Your hands with each other? I posted everything what should be in that long comment to clear the situation but seems people don't get it and will keep fighting... About deith, seriously send me finally some demos where You can prove him cheating or just leave him, or perhaps you are going to wait few years to get 5 lucky situations on demos which will look suspicious and make a movie from it Daviez? You need to understand that people do improve when they practice and are determined. Just face it finally.

Maybe reply to his post ?

to me deith actions dont really seem suspicious usually, what does seem suspicious is that his movement is on par with someone playing the game for one week.

which could simply be a result of different sens/accel and fovs...

ql movement is not hard at all, but it is no problem to bump into walls and dont get jumps right if your setup is more tuned for aim only.


but with todays cheats you will never ever know anymore for sure. simple fact.

I just have to:
So it's called TUNED FOR AIM these days :D

btw I think deith would hardly last as long as he does in official matches and public games with ppl checking under their beds for cheaters.

great great cup, sad not to see any demos being uploaded so far anyway. Really looking forward to next rounds :)

ppl feed on drama

OMG x1ks cheating!!! http://www.twitch.tv/leveluptv/b/301443066
Part 2, 1:13:14 autoaim + wh

u srs?

Yes, I am!
At 1:13:19 exactly, he has an obvious lock on then the cursor follows the target smoothly.
Just secs after that, he's about to leave but a guy comes from the top of the window over RA, and he comes back to try and shoot him when he wasn't supposed to see him.

sorry I'm just completely useless at detecting hax, u should try to convince someone else, or post it separately

the link does not workand i cant find the vod

That's really strange, I watched it last night after reading this thread. Now it's gone.

you mean x1ks is a jew?

it's much much worse, believe you me \(Q.Q)_

lol?

Yes, we're trying to find out what happened to the VOD, it's completely disappeared and very few people have the access to remove it.

Any luck?

No, I have the local vod I just need some better software to cut it.

and it isnt on youtube?

I will upload the local vod to youtube, I think the twitch system is not good enough for youtube yet, so better that I upload local vods. However I must find a suitable application as the one I used before is crap, often doesn't import the audio and crashes.

Any luck yet?

When in doubt of schedule: Bump post!

Xou da man!

test

bravo

dns making me nervous

!_!

How come you planned it in the middle of the euro evening?

Comment of the year.

inb4 ban

nice match between mamut and 4k
good to see a "new" team do so well

Is someone streaming colwn vs ip?

http://www.own3d.tv/live/51234/Empire.Forcja

thank you

vods?

funnybs move on quad with bs $$$$$$

agreed.

mamut vs 4k was real nice, proper tdm :>

Uploaded few demos from today games. Look for it in Demos section. =)

sup with those ip-colwn demos?

That's a one huge mystery. Already uploaded it for two times. First 5 min topic exists, and demos are waiting for approval. Then its all gone o_O. Seems like admins delete it every time...

http://www.own3d.tv/video/327066/iP_vs._colwn...adness_1_2

Whats up with the final so?
Tonight for sure?

According to the schedule, yes. But I think someone said on #lvl^ yesterday that it's not going to happen tonight.

Part 2 of this VOD from last week doesn't work from me :

http://fr.twitch.tv/leveluptv/b/302054713

Anyone else having troubles with it ?

I have =/

U GOTTA BE SHITTIN ME

leveluptv Level Up TV
ESH Mad Catz Madness Tournament GRAND FINAL - colwn vs nEu - IS OFF NOT HAPPENING TONIGHT OK SORRY NOT MY FAULT :((((((((((((((((((

gief final? :p

afaik, there won't be a final

then it really is a Madness tournament :p

Never meant to dishonor colwn, I got misinformed. This post can be ignored, sorry for any confusion.

time of the game time of the game, cba to edit. :D

wtf, how lame is that then? but if you spoke with admins before the game, should they not make a decision in your favour? so at least not giving default to colwn and force a reschedule?

colwn had four people there on time I guess. even though they were the ones wanting to reschedule.. :p

are they evil or just a misunderstanding?

don't know, don't really care. all i can say is we would never take the default win.

They must really want those 250€ and Tritton gaming headsets! Lol'd

I have to clarify what really happened because you are trying so hard to be seen as the victims screwed over by the evil us.

Link had something planed since weeks on the defaut date (thursday) we were supposed to play the game and tried to contact you for days without getting any answer.
Truth to be told he only got an answer from one of your mates on his BNC after midnight the day just before the date of the game (so, wednesday).
For most of the cups, if both teams don't agree on a new date before the date of the game, then the defaut date stands. So link cancelled his stuff while he was at work thursday afternoon (without having seen your mate's reply the previous day because he was sleeping) to make himself available for that game.

It wasn't our intent at all to take the forfeit win in the first place, frankly I'd have rather played it that week but with link having to cancel his plans and the holidays the next week we knew it was going to be hard to play it before christmas, something we absolutely had to, dixit the admin.
After we had taken the forfeit win dibbe insulted us and called us names on irc for a while. Even if I don't accept that, I understood the frustration because he thought he got screwed over and that we did it on purpose which isn't true. So I proposed him to play the game on sunday (3 days after the defaut date) something he didn't even reply to...

To be fair, your lack of communication created this situation. This lack has been admitted by phenix on the d-day when he was trying to gather 4 players on your side to play that game, he wasn't even aware of any rescheduling if I recall right.. He couldn't even be like "but didn't we agree on rescheduling?" he was left with no choice but agreeing on giving us the defaut win..

And the story continues. We were supposed to play the final in the first week of january at the very latest (again, dixit the admin) and after trying to contact 3 of you 3 days in a row, I eventually got an answer from one of them on Wednesday 4th to let me know you couldn't play Thursday 5th/Friday 6th but could on sunday 8th but only at 17h or earlier.. so much for playing it the first week of january eh?

You guys didn't make it easy at all so please, have the decency to not act as the victims when you were close to impossible to schedule anything with.

I've really heard a different story from a part I supposedly trust, my intentions were never to throw stones where it wasn't deserved, my sincere apologies. And I really mean that.

Also, very well played in the final, you guys really surprised me, having played against, and with, teams such as Reason and 4K you guys showed us a whole new level of TDM, well done.

I'll also delete my posts since they seem far too harsh as it's come to my attention how the reality really was.

And the apologies are well received, it never appeared to me as anything but a huge misunderstanding and a fair lack of communication, no big deal, just wanted to clarify how things went from our POV, let's make sure it goes smoother next time.

And thanks for the kind words, really appreciated.

All deserved.

ok, winz/l1nkin to re-battle? y u no want to play proper final?
enemy respects you as we see it, by trying to reschedule game before the actual date of game, speaking to admins etc... why?

even if it has no value for the final standings of the madcatz tournament, colwn and neu should still do a bo5 showmatch anyways!

admins - what is the final decision about colwn-neu game?

Game will be played In first week of January.

great :)

So, when is the final?

We'll work it out.

out of fucking nowhere, but nice

was actually planned for quite some days

nobody told me

I guess we figured admins would.

when is it?

Like 2 hours ago

f*** i missed that :/

demos?

:[[[[[[[[

colwn

y u so goode?

I was actually amazed by how good they were, like playing no other team.

Well deserved and congratulations you clown son of a bitches!

nEuwbs ;(

9 January 2011

ORLY? 1 year ago?

Is there any vods? cant find any on stermysTV..

Nevermind, found it

cmon link1n, demos pls! =)

There you go!

[URL]http://link1n.free.fr/colwn_l1nkin_vs_nEu_(final_ESH_TDM).zip[/URL]

Those are my demos from the Final vs nEu.

hf


// link

Link1n (at about 1:38:30)
Tox
Rapha
all playing @ widescreen now ? :o

some do, yes. rapha said it feels somewhat smoothers for him but he had to alter the fov because you can actually see more left and right.

Still imho 800x600 ftw (:

crt?

yes, I still use a crt. The only game I play is quake and I just hook up my laptop to the crt and pew pew excellent.

winz is, tox is, rapha is, stermy might and i also am

So the final haven't been played and colwn got a default win or the stermy VOD is the final ?

I'm a bit lost.

It has been played and stermy's VOD is indeed the final.

Okay thanks !