The old LeXeR and unkind setups were the most fun to play with if you ask me.

aye

czm?

nice work.

Now add also the effects of the "reallife"-setup, like how much of the forearm on the mousepad has which effect for aiming, or what happens when you put the chair only 2cm higher/lower and so on...
Those things heavily affect the "sweet-spot" too.

Thanks: I've already sketched the "skeleton" of this subject, yet it was too long to be posted in this same thread.
I have no idea wheter to create a new thread or if there's any option to blend it with this one.

where did you get these player settings from? some feel a bit off to me.
anyways, nice effort.

http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=1907380, linked it as well in the first post.
You're the second person who didn't read it, I'm wondering if the link is showing: it is for me at least.

yep, sorry, my bad

I'm
seta sensitivity "3.8" //
seta cl_mouseAccel "0.08" //

so quite similar to cypher. but i have 400 dpi, he has 450 afaik? anyway, i feel upping accel feels better indeed but only for rockets and plasma. for shaft and hitscan weapons I feel that too much accel is a problem.

cant use accel with ball mouse, feels fucking strange \:D/
sens 4.55

You did one mistake. You forgot to take m_yaw/dpi into consideration. The same accel value e.g. 0.1 is totally different on unequally m_yaw values.
As far as I know both k1llsen and cypher use a really low accelstyle. K1llsen's sens is relatively slow whereas cypher could be considered as highsens.

I personally don't like high accel values because as you said it feels really choppy as soon as accel kicks in. I don't know how players are able to hit flick rails with such a setup but it might be with everything else. Personal preference.
The thing is that with the same accel value let's say 0.1 two different sensitivities like 2.3 and 2.5 almost feel the same when you do a quick turn but it's completely different vice versa.

I use 3.25 on 450 dpi with 0.082 accel. Feels just natural to me. I would like to play a bit lower for a more constant hitscan aim but my rockets get worse the lower I set my sens. Right know it sucks because I got cold hands all day long therefore I miss the easiest rails :x

Imo a low accel value and mid/lowsens is the best solution. I doubt that low accel (with the old accelstyle!) hinders your lg/rg aim in any way.
Btw. is anyone using the new accelstyle? I think noctis used it for a while. Tried it once but was'nt comfortable with it.
Another thing is that some players use different sensitivities for each weapon and they still aim fine.

ps: the way you hold your mouse is also important. Take a look at stermy o_O

do you mean m_cpi by the new accelstyle?

Nah I meant accelstyle 1. Dunno whether you can still use it as they implemented m_cpi. Basically you were able to set it up that accel would only kick in at a certain sens. So for example until you didn't hit a certain sens you played without accel but as soon as you hit it accel kicked in. You were also able to influence the curve. I'm not sure whether it is still possible tho. Never really bothered with the new m_cpi.

I think you are talking about the functionality of cl_mouseacceloffset pre and post new mouse implementation. I don't think old Offset really worked the way it was intended, and seemed to modify the acceleration curve rather than 'offset' the point where acceleration kicked in. Now offset does what it's name suggests, but there does not appear to be an equivalent value to the old offset...

Y that is what I meant. The problem was that it was fps depended. Thus a fps drop also changed the acceleration curve.

Basically you were able to set it up that accel would only kick in at a certain sens. So for example until you didn't hit a certain sens you played without accel but as soon as you hit it accel kicked in.

Isn't that what cl_mouseAccelOffset does?

"You did one mistake. You forgot to take m_yaw/dpi into consideration. The same accel value e.g. 0.1 is totally different on unequally m_yaw values."

All the values have been taken from ia's work, which I even linked, and which you seemingly didn't read.

Here are his words:
"To make things simpler I'm normalizing every sens and accel to it's equivalent value with default pitch and yaw at 400dpi. Accel in either deg/cm^2 or deg/cm*s may be added in later (or feel free to compute it)."

This means, from what I can understand, that all values are considered at 400 dpi, 0,022 yaw.
http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=1907380,

Those values are either outdated or just plain wrong. I had a g9x for a while and I tried k1llsen's settings and it was anything but a high sens :O. With the logitech settings it was somewhat around 35cm and lowaccel if I rember correctly.

http://www.funender.com/quake/mouse/index.html

The new phoon.us/mouse site. Basically the real accel value is the interesting thing when you try to compare sensitivities using the old q3 accelstyle. Also normalizing every sens neglect diagonal aim.

Cypher - 3.784 sens, .106 accel, 27.46 cm/360 feels completely different from
Cypher - Abyssus - 450dpi - 4sens - .1 accel - .0185
when you aim up and down :P

Those values are either outdated or just plain wrong. I had a g9x for a while and I tried k1llsen's settings and it was anything but a high sens :O. With the logitech settings it was somewhat around 35cm and lowaccel if I rember correctly.

Outdated? I wouldn't really have expected such a thing from a 2010 cfg.
http://gouzouboudou.free.fr/ESWC%202010/confi...toexec.cfg
Also, your "feeling of 35 cms" is far from being a precise description.
Since K1llsen's using in_mouse 2 (although I did read somewhere he uses fancy driver settings), this means the values' correctness stands still.


Cypher - 3.784 sens, .106 accel, 27.46 cm/360 feels completely different from
Cypher - Abyssus - 450dpi - 4sens - .1 accel - .0185
when you aim up and down :P

Again, feelings.
You seem unable to grasp that this discussion would be utterly pointless if I did what you ask, as I used ia's normalized values as an example.
I could have posted the raw cfg data and values, but that would have been against the purpose of the thread, forcing people to read it with a calculator in hand.

Then again, I got told by you that :
[i]"You did one mistake. You forgot to take m_yaw/dpi into consideration."[i]
and, as soon as I pointed out the source (which you didn't even bother to read) as a proof, now you change subject and ramble about supposed mistakes on "diagonal aim" ( m_pitch) accuracy, which wasn't even considered by the calculations in the first place.

I mean, I don't want to sound offensive, but gimme a break.

Also, your "feeling of 35 cms" is far from being a precise description.
Since K1llsen's using in_mouse 2 (although I did read somewhere he uses fancy driver settings), this means the values' correctness stands still.

Do you own a g9x and tried k1llsen's settings :D? I did and in_mouse 2 doesn't overwrite the logitech driver settings. Hence those settings in the posted thread are just wrong. K1llsen uses lowsens with lowaccel. Suprised me because he looks so flicky and quick on the stream.

You seem unable to grasp that this discussion would be utterly pointless if I did what you ask, as I used ia's normalized values as an example.
I could have posted the raw cfg data and values, but that would have been against the purpose of the thread, forcing people to read it with a calculator in hand.

Agreed but you should have pointed it out then which you didn't.

and, as soon as I pointed out the source (which you didn't even bother to read) as a proof, now you change subject and ramble about supposed mistakes on "diagonal aim" ( m_pitch) accuracy, which wasn't even considered by the calculations in the first place.

I averaged the pitch and yaw because I figured it would correspond (on average) to more realistic situations. There's a lot of vertical and diagonal aiming, so rather than ignore that completely, I just used a single value.

Ooops.
I think you didn't read the thread yourself otherwise you would know about k1llsen's settings. But hey I didn't read it ;).

Imo you could have taken a look into current cfgs and then compared real accel values, real sensitivities and accelstyles.

Don't get me wrong I think it's a good thread but I was just trying to give some insight based on my opinion but w/e ...

Raw input doesn't bypass logitech and razer drivers.
Killsen's settings are just plain fucked, last time I asked he had approx 40cm/360. With some trololomaths you can pretty much assume the driver outputs 333dpi or something like that ( It's pretty old ) so the accel would actually be pretty small too.

I tested it myself too and I got 35cm/360 wif maff
and 32 with actual testing

I use (converted from 1000 dpi to 400):
sens: 1.1 (2.75)
accel: 0.09 (0.5625)
sens cap: 2.6 (6.5)

So basically no 3 with about twice the accel :D

Its kind of like a low sens that I can turn into high sens when I need to, so when moving I do a lot of fast flick moves with my wrist, and when aiming with lg etc I tend to move my whole arm. I find the sens cap helps a lot with muscle memory with the fast flick shots like air rockets and rails.

How do you convert accel value over different DPIs? I'd give a whole plus, nothing less, for a formula.

http://www.funender.com/quake/mouse/index.html

i've known this site for a long time but i never realized it had this too
derp

Is there a method to know real sens and real accel when someone uses the m_cpi cvar?

If you use the correct m_cpi value and 0.022 m_yaw then real sens is 360/sensitivity and real accel is cl_mouseaccel (if using cl_mouseaccelpower 2)

Yepp, but I use m_yaw 0.020.

then your real accel is
(0.020/ 0.022) * cl_mouseaccel

real sens
360 / ((0.020 / 0.022) * sens)

Thanks, but the real sens value came up pretty weird; 56.57142857142857; but I do a slow 360° turn on roughly 35 cm. : S

sens?

7.

http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=1907380,


To convert sens at 400dpi to another dpi or yaw, use:
new_sens = old_sens * (new_yaw / .022) * (new_dpi / 400)

For accel:
new_accel = old_accel * (new_yaw / .022) * (new_dpi / 400)^2

iirc linkin used barely no accel in this footage.

I don't think you checked the K1llsen video xD

Trust me, I watch it every day, and I still ignore the song's name.
Not even Shazam will do the trick unfortunately.

Good writing, good research, good post. Much needed these days on ESR. Thank you.

turning OFF crosshair for shaft helped me most.

what are ur settings for shaft?

cg_lightningstyle ?
cg_drawgun ?

cg_drawcrosshair 0
cg_lightningStyle 4
cg_trueLightning 1

most pros use mechanical keyboards now. mainly because they are sponsored but I also know some who really prefer the mechanical ones...

i, for one, use the 6vg with black switches... and im loving it. failed a lot of jumps in the beginning because the space bar needs more pressure that I was used to :D

jump with space! my friend we are a dying breed.

are we? :( mouse 2 jump is gay!

i dont get how ppl can NOT use space as jump button after playing dozens SP fps games in the past :<

none of those sp games use jumping as heavily

every sp game uses jump heavily if you are a quaker

Ha, wanted to plus, then realized I already did it in the past.

Every FPS / TPS / TPS-RPG is violent vaulting. :>

serious sam, max payne[even if its tpp], doom, ut etc etc

only newskul shit shooters dont use space so much :<

only newskul shit shooters dont use space so much :<

ok

I don't know how people can not use space to shoot to be honest.

Ask Toxic ^^

I played wtith toxs controls for a week or so they were nice.

Last I checked his config, shoot was changed to 'c' :S

tried it once, felt unnatural to me, but its prolly the best way to max ur acc, as u dont put any pressure on ur mouse

cl_mouseacceloffset and cl_mousesenscap have been a godsend for me.

The "45 degree" problem you mention can easily be resolved with cl_mouseacceloffset

I use a +zoom config with a base sense of 2.2, accel 0.2 and pitch/yaw 0.022

First I found a sensitivity that I could lg decently and consistently with in lg vs lg fights: 2.2

I then went and found a sensitivity that I liked for doing 180 degree turns/flicking around with: 5.75

Next I found an accel value that enabled me to reach a sens of 5.75 easily with my base sense of 2.2: accel 0.2

Finally, I chose cl_mouseacceloffset values that felt good with each weapon.

It resulted in this:

bind mouse1 "+attack;+enemy"
bind space "+zoom_mode;+enemy"

bind x "vstr weap1_norm"
bind c "vstr weap2_norm"
bind z "vstr weap3_norm"
bind 4 "vstr weap4_norm"
bind q "vstr weap5_norm"
bind tab "vstr weapV_norm"
bind r "vstr weap6_norm"
bind e "vstr weap7_norm"
bind f "vstr weap8_norm"
bind t "vstr weap9_norm"
bind 1 "vstr weapA_norm" // Nailgun
bind 2 "vstr weapB_norm" // Proximity mines
bind 3 "vstr weapC_norm" // Chaingun

set weap1_norm "weapon 1 ;cg_drawgun 0;cg_fov 90 ;cg_zoomfov 110;set zf cg_zoomfov 55;set resetzoom cg_zoomfov 110;+zoom;cg_drawcrosshair 2;cg_crosshairsize 43;cg_crosshairhitstyle 2;vstr gun2;vstr w1"
set weap2_norm "weapon 2 ;cg_drawgun 0;cg_fov 90 ;cg_zoomfov 90 ;set zf cg_zoomfov 55;set resetzoom cg_zoomfov 90 ;+zoom;cg_drawcrosshair 2;cg_crosshairsize 43;cg_crosshairhitstyle 2;vstr gun0;vstr w2"
set weap3_norm "weapon 3 ;cg_drawgun 0;cg_fov 90 ;cg_zoomfov 110;set zf cg_zoomfov 55;set resetzoom cg_zoomfov 110;+zoom;cg_drawcrosshair 2;cg_crosshairsize 43;cg_crosshairhitstyle 2;vstr gun2;vstr w3"
set weap4_norm "weapon 4 ;cg_drawgun 0;cg_fov 90 ;cg_zoomfov 110;set zf cg_zoomfov 55;set resetzoom cg_zoomfov 110;+zoom;cg_drawcrosshair 2;cg_crosshairsize 43;cg_crosshairhitstyle 2;vstr gun2;vstr w4"
set weap5_norm "weapon 5 ;cg_drawgun 0;cg_fov 90 ;cg_zoomfov 105;set zf cg_zoomfov 55;set resetzoom cg_zoomfov 102;+zoom;cg_drawcrosshair 2;cg_crosshairsize 43;cg_crosshairhitstyle 2;vstr gun0;vstr w5"
set weapV_norm "weapon 5 ;cg_drawgun 0;cg_fov 90 ;cg_zoomfov 110;set zf cg_zoomfov 55;set resetzoom cg_zoomfov 110;+zoom;cg_drawcrosshair 2;cg_crosshairsize 43;cg_crosshairhitstyle 2;vstr gun0;vstr wV"
set weap6_norm "weapon 6 ;cg_drawgun 0;cg_fov 90 ;cg_zoomfov 90 ;set zf cg_zoomfov 65;set resetzoom cg_zoomfov 90 ;+zoom;cg_drawcrosshair 2;cg_crosshairsize 43;cg_crosshairhitstyle 2;vstr lgun0;vstr w6"
set weap7_norm "weapon 7 ;cg_drawgun 0;cg_fov 90 ;cg_zoomfov 93 ;set zf cg_zoomfov 55;set resetzoom cg_zoomfov 93 ;+zoom;cg_drawcrosshair 2;cg_crosshairsize 41;cg_crosshairhitstyle 2;vstr gun0;vstr w7"
set weap8_norm "weapon 8 ;cg_drawgun 0;cg_fov 90 ;cg_zoomfov 110;set zf cg_zoomfov 55;set resetzoom cg_zoomfov 110;+zoom;cg_drawcrosshair 2;cg_crosshairsize 43;cg_crosshairhitstyle 2;vstr gun2;vstr w8"
set weap9_norm "weapon 9 ;cg_drawgun 0;cg_fov 90 ;cg_zoomfov 105;set zf cg_zoomfov 55;set resetzoom cg_zoomfov 105;+zoom;cg_drawcrosshair 2;cg_crosshairsize 43;cg_crosshairhitstyle 2;vstr gun0;vstr w9"
set weapA_norm "weapon 11;cg_drawgun 0;cg_fov 90 ;cg_zoomfov 100;set zf cg_zoomfov 55;set resetzoom cg_zoomfov 110;+zoom;cg_drawcrosshair 2;cg_crosshairsize 43;cg_crosshairhitstyle 2;vstr gun0;vstr w11"
set weapB_norm "weapon 12;cg_drawgun 0;cg_fov 90 ;cg_zoomfov 110;set zf cg_zoomfov 55;set resetzoom cg_zoomfov 110;+zoom;cg_drawcrosshair 2;cg_crosshairsize 43;cg_crosshairhitstyle 2;vstr gun0;vstr w12"
set weapC_norm "weapon 13;cg_drawgun 0;cg_fov 90 ;cg_zoomfov 90 ;set zf cg_zoomfov 65;set resetzoom cg_zoomfov 90 ;+zoom;cg_drawcrosshair 2;cg_crosshairsize 43;cg_crosshairhitstyle 2;vstr gun0;vstr w13"

set weap1_zoom "weapon 1 ;cg_zoomfov 55;cg_fov 90 ;cg_drawgun 0;set zf cg_zoomfov 55;set resetzoom cg_zoomfov 110;cg_drawcrosshair 2;cg_crosshairsize 43;vstr gun2;vstr w1;vstr enemies2"
set weap2_zoom "weapon 2 ;cg_zoomfov 55;cg_fov 90 ;cg_drawgun 0;set zf cg_zoomfov 55;set resetzoom cg_zoomfov 90 ;cg_drawcrosshair 2;cg_crosshairsize 43;vstr gun0;vstr w2;vstr enemies2"
set weap3_zoom "weapon 3 ;cg_zoomfov 55;cg_fov 90 ;cg_drawgun 0;set zf cg_zoomfov 55;set resetzoom cg_zoomfov 100;cg_drawcrosshair 2;cg_crosshairsize 43;vstr gun0;vstr w3;vstr enemies2"
set weap4_zoom "weapon 4 ;cg_zoomfov 55;cg_fov 90 ;cg_drawgun 0;set zf cg_zoomfov 55;set resetzoom cg_zoomfov 110;cg_drawcrosshair 2;cg_crosshairsize 43;vstr gun2;vstr w4;vstr enemies2"
set weap5_zoom "weapon 5 ;cg_zoomfov 55;cg_fov 90 ;cg_drawgun 0;set zf cg_zoomfov 55;set resetzoom cg_zoomfov 102;cg_drawcrosshair 2;cg_crosshairsize 43;vstr gun2;vstr w5;vstr enemies2"
set weapV_zoom "weapon 5 ;cg_zoomfov 55;cg_fov 90 ;cg_drawgun 0;set zf cg_zoomfov 55;set resetzoom cg_zoomfov 110;cg_drawcrosshair 2;cg_crosshairsize 43;vstr gun2;vstr wV;vstr enemies2"
set weap6_zoom "weapon 6 ;cg_zoomfov 65;cg_fov 90 ;cg_drawgun 0;set zf cg_zoomfov 65;set resetzoom cg_zoomfov 90 ;cg_drawcrosshair 2;cg_crosshairsize 43;vstr gun0;vstr w6;vstr enemies2"
set weap7_zoom "weapon 7 ;cg_zoomfov 35;cg_fov 85 ;cg_drawgun 0;set zf cg_zoomfov 55;set resetzoom cg_zoomfov 102;cg_drawcrosshair 2;cg_crosshairsize 41;vstr gun0;vstr w7;vstr enemies2"
set weap8_zoom "weapon 8 ;cg_zoomfov 55;cg_fov 95 ;cg_drawgun 0;set zf cg_zoomfov 55;set resetzoom cg_zoomfov 100;cg_drawcrosshair 2;cg_crosshairsize 43;vstr gun2;vstr w8;vstr enemies2"
set weap9_zoom "weapon 9 ;cg_zoomfov 55;cg_fov 90 ;cg_drawgun 0;set zf cg_zoomfov 55;set resetzoom cg_zoomfov 105;cg_drawcrosshair 2;cg_crosshairsize 43;vstr gun0;vstr w9;vstr enemies2"
set weapA_zoom "weapon 11;cg_zoomfov 55;cg_fov 90 ;cg_drawgun 0;set zf cg_zoomfov 55;set resetzoom cg_zoomfov 100;cg_drawcrosshair 2;cg_crosshairsize 43;vstr gun0;vstr w11;vstr enemies2"
set weapB_zoom "weapon 12;cg_zoomfov 55;cg_fov 90 ;cg_drawgun 0;set zf cg_zoomfov 55;set resetzoom cg_zoomfov 110;cg_drawcrosshair 2;cg_crosshairsize 43;vstr gun0;vstr w12;vstr enemies2"
set weapC_zoom "weapon 13;cg_zoomfov 65;cg_fov 90 ;cg_drawgun 0;set zf cg_zoomfov 65;set resetzoom cg_zoomfov 90 ;cg_drawcrosshair 2;cg_crosshairsize 43;vstr gun0;vstr w13;vstr enemies2"

set bind_norm "bind x vstr weap1_norm;bind c vstr weap2_norm;bind z vstr weap3_norm;bind 4 vstr weap4_norm;bind q vstr weap5_norm;bind tab vstr weapV_norm;bind r vstr weap6_norm;bind e vstr weap7_norm;bind f vstr weap8_norm;bind t vstr weap9_norm;bind 1 vstr weapA_norm;bind 2 vstr weapB_norm;bind 3 vstr weapC_norm"
set bind_zoom "bind x vstr weap1_zoom;bind c vstr weap2_zoom;bind z vstr weap3_zoom;bind 4 vstr weap4_zoom;bind q vstr weap5_zoom;bind tab vstr weapV_zoom;bind r vstr weap6_zoom;bind e vstr weap7_zoom;bind f vstr weap8_zoom;bind t vstr weap9_zoom;bind 1 vstr weapA_zoom;bind 2 vstr weapB_zoom;bind 3 vstr weapC_zoom"

set w1 "sensitivity 2.3;cl_mouseaccel 0.18;cl_mousesenscap 5.75;cl_mouseacceloffset 3.75;set senscap cl_mousesenscap 5.75;m_filter 0;cg_crosshaircolor 5;set enemies1 vstr enemy1;set enemies2 vstr enemy2;vstr enemies2"
set w2 "sensitivity 2.2;cl_mouseaccel 0.20;cl_mousesenscap 5.75;cl_mouseacceloffset 3.50;set senscap cl_mousesenscap 5.75;m_filter 0;cg_crosshaircolor 5;set enemies1 vstr enemy1;set enemies2 vstr enemy2L;vstr enemies2"
set w3 "sensitivity 2.2;cl_mouseaccel 0.18;cl_mousesenscap 5.75;cl_mouseacceloffset 4.00;set senscap cl_mousesenscap 5.75;m_filter 1;cg_crosshaircolor 5;set enemies1 vstr enemy1;set enemies2 vstr enemy1;vstr enemies2"
set w4 "sensitivity 2.3;cl_mouseaccel 0.20;cl_mousesenscap 5.75;cl_mouseacceloffset 3.50;set senscap cl_mousesenscap 5.75;m_filter 1;cg_crosshaircolor 5;set enemies1 vstr enemy2;set enemies2 vstr enemy2;vstr enemies2"
set w5 "sensitivity 2.2;cl_mouseaccel 0.20;cl_mousesenscap 5.75;cl_mouseacceloffset 3.50;set senscap cl_mousesenscap 5.75;m_filter 0;cg_crosshaircolor 5;set enemies1 vstr enemy2;set enemies2 vstr enemy2;vstr enemies2"
set wV "sensitivity 2.3;cl_mouseaccel 0.18;cl_mousesenscap 5.75;cl_mouseacceloffset 3.75;set senscap cl_mousesenscap 5.75;m_filter 0;cg_crosshaircolor 5;set enemies1 vstr enemy2;set enemies2 vstr enemy2;vstr enemies2"
set w6 "sensitivity 2.2;cl_mouseaccel 0.20;cl_mousesenscap 5.00;cl_mouseacceloffset 3.50;set senscap cl_mousesenscap 5.00;m_filter 0;cg_crosshaircolor 5;set enemies1 vstr enemy1;set enemies2 vstr enemy2L;vstr enemies2"
set w7 "sensitivity 2.2;cl_mouseaccel 0.20;cl_mousesenscap 5.00;cl_mouseacceloffset 4.50;set senscap cl_mousesenscap 5.00;m_filter 0;cg_crosshaircolor 5;set enemies1 vstr enemy1;set enemies2 vstr enemy1;vstr enemies2"
set w8 "sensitivity 2.2;cl_mouseaccel 0.20;cl_mousesenscap 5.75;cl_mouseacceloffset 3.75;set senscap cl_mousesenscap 5.75;m_filter 1;cg_crosshaircolor 5;set enemies1 vstr enemy1;set enemies2 vstr enemy2L;vstr enemies2"
set w9 "sensitivity 2.2;cl_mouseaccel 0.20;cl_mousesenscap 5.75;cl_mouseacceloffset 3.75;set senscap cl_mousesenscap 5.75;m_filter 0;cg_crosshaircolor 5;set enemies1 vstr enemy1;set enemies2 vstr enemy2L;vstr enemies2"
set w11 "sensitivity 2.2;cl_mouseaccel 0.20;cl_mousesenscap 5.75;cl_mouseacceloffset 3.75;set senscap cl_mousesenscap 5.75;m_filter 0;cg_crosshaircolor 5;set enemies1 vstr enemy1;set enemies2 vstr enemy2L;vstr enemies2"
set w12 "sensitivity 2.2;cl_mouseaccel 0.20;cl_mousesenscap 5.75;cl_mouseacceloffset 3.75;set senscap cl_mousesenscap 5.75;m_filter 0;cg_crosshaircolor 5;set enemies1 vstr enemy1;set enemies2 vstr enemy2L;vstr enemies2"
set w13 "sensitivity 2.2;cl_mouseaccel 0.20;cl_mousesenscap 5.75;cl_mouseacceloffset 3.75;set senscap cl_mousesenscap 5.75;m_filter 0;cg_crosshaircolor 5;set enemies1 vstr enemy1;set enemies2 vstr enemy2;vstr enemies2"


alias +zoom_mode "vstr bind_zoom;vstr zf"
alias -zoom_mode "vstr bind_norm;vstr resetzoom"
set zf "cg_zoomfov 55"

alias +enemy "vstr enemies1;cg_zoomsensitivity 1"
alias -enemy "vstr enemies2;cg_zoomsensitivity 0"

set enemies1 "vstr enemy1"
set enemies2 "vstr enemy2"

set enemy1 "cg_forceenemymodel tankjr/bright;cg_enemylowercolor 0x00FF00FF"
set enemy2 "cg_forceenemymodel keel/bright;cg_enemylowercolor 0x00FFCCFF"
set enemy2L "cg_forceenemymodel keel/bright;cg_enemylowercolor 0x00FF00FF"

I've actually tried your cfg many times!
I'd like to say your LG crosshair alone is a reason worth downloading it for, it's golden: it's an impressively well done cfg, I can't even dare to imagine the time it required.
Unfortunately, the deal breaker for me was the too many variables involved in it.

I really wish it could work for me, but it's hard already for me now to keep control of a single accel-diminishing +fire only alias for LG (I'm trying hard to find a single sens+accel combo and get used to it, but either the LG or the RL suffers), I can't even imagine how uncomfortable it would feel to have not only a single offset+senscap taken into account,but 4 of them!

This post by something has indeed been very very helpful. I choose to use sens 2.5, accel 0.2 and offset 4 for all weapons. combined with a senscap of 6

nice necro bro

all u need is cl_mouseaccel 0

m_cpi or die

I use a Death Adder 3.5g at 450 DPI and my sensitivity is 7.5 and accel is 0.1. I up'd it recently to get better rockets along with uping the fov, which worked. But ya I find this around the compromise I need with good movement, flick shooting. I set my lg a little lower to 7 sens.

My conclusion for good aim is as follows

choose a mouse that is comfortable - this is key.

accel is good for those who game alot, but hinders when you only invest limited time in fps, and/or you have poor motor skills (like me, I am left handed but use the mouse with my right hand)

high sens mostly benefits reaction time, while low sens benefits consistency.
do not change your settings regularly - chose one to your liking, then stick with it until it feels completely natural. from there on you can do small adjustments for fine tuning without losing the feel

Why not using your left arm to aim???

Symetric mouse + uhjk or yghj for movement = profit

being left handed is not gay, be natural dude :)

well, unless you find playing with right arm "more" comfortable

ofc it's not bad or whatever to be lefty, it's actually an advantage in most sports for example.

I stuck with it (is that the correct past tense of 'to stick with it'??) because I would have had to relearn aiming from scratch, which at the time was not an option. as my skill rose the gap between left and right got even larger, as I had never used the mouse with my left before (by accident, I did not think about it at the time). Only when I hit a skill ceiling of aiming with my right I realized that was not a smart move :)

All that matters is which arm you learn to do your stuff with.

AccelOffset and SensCap are awesome. My Settings:

m_cpi "2000"
sensitivity "10"
m_pitch "0.022"
m_yaw "0.022"
cl_mouseAccelPower "2"
cl_mouseAccel "0.09"
cl_mouseAccelOffset "25"
cl_mouseSensCap "30"


So I can use shaft & rail with Mid-Low-Sens (no accel), High-Mid for rox -infight & flickshots (with accel) and even 360 (most useless thing ever, I know).