Your last remark pretty much killed any chance of a proper response. Who is Lorfa again?

Obsessive stalker.

now u killed ur chances

Private messages are that way --->

That's funny; you could've told me that in a private message, instead of derailing my thread.

that way --->

To the reply button?

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Wait, if this is directed at Lorfa, why am I reading it?

Because you forgot to ignore me?

Did I?

Apparently

Don't you have better things to do than posting shit on esr?

He may very well have better things to do than posting shit on esr.
However, you went through the trouble of writing your own shit on esr.
Just as I perpetually started writing MY very own intellectual shit on esr.

I'll have my martini shaken, not stirred, please.

u mad bro?

this is ESR not ql forums

How about *gasp* using a different name altogether?

haha lorfa is crazy.... I think hes worse for ql then the guy he reported haha.

didnt read

name yourself NOTfudge. there's no way they'll get ya

but he is fudge and he knows it

Why doesn't he like you? Beef from the past or something?

On ESR you just make silleh stuff, nothing anyone would really get their carecup full over. I don't know how you are on QL forums. Maybe there you spamalot and Lorfa is forum mod??

Tell us Fudge. Tell us the story. Your story.

On CNN ESR we focus on the big picture, seeing the world from a wider perspective, taking into detail that latest events to view a broader horizon, stepping back to visualize a complete understanding of modern global events, taking you deeper into the news of today for the future of tomorrow. Join me, Jonathan Fudge, as I provide insight into the real story making tomorrows headlines!

I've been permanently banned on the Quake Live forums for over two months already, so Lorfa is a truly twisted individual if he's still going around banning me.

Second of all, I've never troll in-game. If Lorfa was annoyed at me on the forums, he could've asked a moderator to ban me on the forums.

It's odd that he would report me in-game too, because I've probably seen him twice on servers over the past year, and not once have I trolled him.

Why were you banned on QL forums? Isn't Lorfa a mod there, or something?

edit: I am trying to find any reasoning for his actions, what is his motivation or reasoning for doing this?

Lorfa used to be a mod, but he got removed. I guess he's kind of bitter now.
I have no idea what his motives are; I think he just has a sick attraction to me.

As for being banned, Sync made up some stupid reason to ban me permanently for no reason.

You have been banned for the following reason:
Banned by administrator

Date the ban will be lifted: Never

http://i.imgur.com/pAlUj.png

I also got perma banned from the forunms for no reason.

There was this guy manthrax i enjoyed reading his posts...along with some others.

but now i notice his last post.... on the thread about making a league for ql, has the word banned next to it. what a god dam shame. id is horrible man.

I have a hypothesis:

You "spammed"/"trolled" on the QL forums, at least in the eyes of the moderators. Lorfa used to be one of these fellows. From his time as a mod, he gained animosity toward you, yet was unable to act during his time as mod. This makes you an enemy he was unable to defeat.

But you were banned from the formus, at this he must have been happy. Later, you are banned from the game, in a public manner, so he gets wind of it. Realizing he still considers you an enemy, he delights in you being banned, feeling you got what you deserved.

Later, someone, maybe the friends you add on each new account as you describe in another reply, reveals you have returned and it reaches to Lorfa's ears. All he has to do is send off an email to QL support, he already probably already knows the fellows there from his time as forum mod. He can just include your nick and be done with it. I doubt it takes much effort or stalking on his part.

This hypothesis has assumptions, but is flexible. He could have just labeled you as a troll without any interacting/being a mod/etc, and reporting someone who is already banned can't be so hard.

tldr: guy thinks u troll, guy reports

Lorfa was removed from mod status before I joined Quake Live. Also, none of my Quake Live friends post on the forums, and none of them talk to Lorfa. Most of them don't even know who Lorfa is.

But pretty much everything else is spot-on with Lorfa's mental issues.

Xen you seem to have good logic :-)

A reasonable hypothesis, but it's not true. I'm not like that for one, and two I haven't reported fudge for anything.

Cool, I hope you know I'm wasn't trying to hate on you or anything, just trying to find a reasonable explanation to Fudge's claims about you. An explanation based on assumptions will always be trumped by facts xd

That Lorfa person sounds like a great chap.

I am in fact Lorfa, and im innocent.

u r young and innocent, we know that

GIEF UBERLOWPINGACROSSTHEPODZINTERWEBZ !!!!

Please, good sir.

how u know is lorfa that reports u?

and yes if he is the one, you have a point. There is no reason for a healthy person to keep doing that, since u never hacked

he did

I wasn't banned for hacking; I was banned for advertising hacked srevers.

I hacked once, on a password-protected server with a friend/clanmate over a year ago. I've never hacked in public games. I've never been reported or called out for hacking.

Maybe "you hack once, then you're a hacker." Fine. But quite frankly, a hacker with 21.03% accuracy and a negative K/d ratio is a pathetic hacker, and not even worthy of being reported.

http://i.imgur.com/QAQ2d.jpg

If Lorfa is reporting me for hacking, then it's even more bizarre. Lorfa has never seen me hack, nor has iD banned me for hacking. So he's pretty much following around and banning me on rumor, without any evidence backing up his asinine claims.

Lorfa likes your tears.

why do u create account with same name

Dear ESR admins

When will be the USA subforum for these retards implemented?

Maybe they'll start to listen to you when you prove you don't have Down's Syndrome, you dickless faggot?

No need to talk back. What you need to do is fucking off right back to the QL forums.

Dear ESR admins

When will there be a a sub-forum for European dumbfucks who don't know how to speak English?

When will be the USA subforum for these retards implemented?

Your English sounds like a six-year old girl gargling semen after a violent blowjob, while taking a baseball bat up her ass.

tl;dr European dumbfuck calls other person retarded, doesn't know how to speak English.
PROFIT!!!

The problem is you are too unintelligent to troll people, thus far just making a clown out of yourself.

Just out of curiosity, how many foreign languages do you speak on the level i speak english? =)

The problem is that you're too dumb to converse coherently in English, giving yourself an aura of stupidity.

I don't speak any foreign languages at the level that you speak English, because your level of English is so low that even a toddler could speak better English than you. It's simply not the level I aim for when I learn new languages.

Example:

thus far just making a clown out of yourself.

Aha =)

Another mental breakdown of the hillbilly kid... Go grab a happy meal after you finished your sister =)

That's the lousiest comeback I've ever seen. Go scroll through Jamerio's latest posts and learn something, cumdumpster.

"Surely cheaters are doing more damage to the community than a tier 2 player banned for advertising hacked servers."

vs

[11:25] <Fudge> one my my friends told me to connect to the server, and i idd :( ( http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2205517 )

so:

1.you did advertise the hacked servers, and not only "accidentaly" joined.
2.that means your earlier post was just a stupid attempt to evade a ban by lying, as pointed out: http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2208465#pid2208465
3.you keep on hating others for self-inflicted fail

--> makes others want to have all your future accounts banned, too

@ whoever reports your accounts: keep up the good work!

Your logic fails in so many ways.

No, I did not know it was a hacked server before I joined, dumbass.

you did advertise the hacked servers, and not only "accidentaly" joined.

No, I did not "accidentaly" join a hacked server. How the hell do you accidentally join a server?

that means your earlier post was just a stupid attempt to evade a ban by lying, as pointed out:

Evade a ban? I'm already banned. What the hell are you smoking?

you keep on hating others for self-inflicted fail

Okay, give me an instance where I hate on others for my self-inflicted failing.

They should have a required IQ test before joining ESR to prevent cretins like you from posting.

It was me.

Even limity sees through you

I agree it is kind of strange they would ban you for advertising hacked servers in a FREE to play game lmao, when most people would not bother playing a hacked server anyways....

But whats really asinine, is they still encourage and condone people who make abusive alts to slum tiers and stack teams.

I've got nothing against you, Fudge, but you're an attention whore. You fucked up with the pirate servers and you've been rightfully banned. I don't care who reports your new accounts. That's the rules and you know it. Forget that identify, it's banned. If you really want to play, try with a nick that's not related to "Fudge-and-your-glorious-past-so-everyone-can-know-who-you-are", maybe. Not that I support the idea, I just won't act against it. It would also have the considerable advantage of not having to deal with this kind of threads.

I'm asking why Lorfa singled me out and stalked me obsessively. That has nothing to do with advertising pirated servers, or attention whoring.

Attention whoring? It's Lorfa who's following me around and trying to ban me. I didn't ask for his overpowering sexual urges towards me, nor his obsessive attraction to banned forum members. I would happily play in obscurity and peace rather than have Lorfa sniffing for my ass every day. I just want to play.

try with a nick that's not related to "Fudge-and-your-glorious-past-so-everyone-can-know-who-you-are"

I do this because when I have to re-add all my friends after my latest account gets banned, they'll only accept the friend requests if I have a name that resembles my previous nick. Of course, this wouldn't be a problem if Lorfa stopped stalking me.

Fudge, i do not know you on a personal level nor do i care to, but you must understand what you are doing here, you from what i see are an attention whore this is with out a shadow of doubt.

But Flashsoule is 100% correct shut up, make an alt account and play the game, who gives a rats ass about your friends list in a game?

You do not interact with these poeple outside of QL for if you did you could just call them indicate your new name and they would accept your invite.

I am so tired of the bitching from people who have done wrong in-game. Dont screw up and you will not have these problems. Simple and easy if you ask me.

And if Lorfa is actually doing as you say who cares man, life is too short to worry about trolls, move on, play, enjoy or GTFO because we ALL are tired of the shitties and attitudes that go with people who have done wrong and want justification for it.

Enjoy!

But Flashsoule is 100% correct shut up, make an alt account and play the game, who gives a rats ass about your friends list in a game?

I do, because I enjoy playing with my friends...
???

I am so tired of the bitching from people who have done wrong in-game. Dont screw up and you will not have these problems. Simple and easy if you ask me.

This is a pointless suggestion; I've already "screwed up" once, and I've never screwed up since, but I'm still getting banned.

I don't care if you're bad or if you hack or not, you should stay banned for being a gigantic douchebag and a troll.

idiot

jat first i thought another trolling already banned alt.


but jstn's profile is actually very legit....

so far i haven't found any on this site out of the names i decided to check.

good for you jstn. your ok.

You're fucking retarded; I'm not protesting my ban, I'm asking why Lorfa would ban me.

lrn2read, dickless faggot.

haha me an fudge just owned some guys in a 2v2.

the one guy got so mad he started cursing me out and calling me raythenoob hahaha. The fool didn't even know Ray only plays ctf doesn't like CA, which is all I play.

and you guessed the dude trolling me who thinks I'm ray was an obvious alt.


Ray if you out there come back to the forums.

lol play_if_you_may.

Are you really realy sure that it is Lorfa all the time? Dont you think that Fudge name in all your alt accounts may show that it is you for somebody like Sync?

Just name yourself some over way than fudge, if you like it, then maybe translate word "fudge" to another lang and use the translation of it as your nick for example.

Just trying to help ya

but you forget id condones alts.

because maybe sync has alot of fun just banning him over and over again. we have quake... and id has their favorite game.

I'm sure fudge can make an endless supply of emails and accounts and proxy his ip.


oh ya all those warping alts. masking their ip on shitty free proxies....hahah.

Yeah, I have a dynamic IP. It's just annoying to shut off my router for 3 hours every 2 days.

Fudge, next time you will do an alt account, call yourself Falschen( means Fudge in german) and dont join WNM straight away - this way Lorfa(Sync) would never know that it is you

Fudge, next time you will do an alt account, call yourself Falschen( means Fudge in german) and dont join WNM straight away - this way Lorfa(Sync) would never know that it is you

You never explained why you believe this has anything to do with Lorfa, other than an invention of your own. A really bizarre leap concerning a once moderator on QL forum, somehow having all this pull to terrorize your alt accounts. Plain and simple you got banned again for attempting to skirt ban with alt account. Because you want to be so vocal about alting, slumming and tiering and harassing to QL support, why wouldn't they ban you first and foremost if you are alting? They are just enforcing your rants to the person to whom it matters the most. And now you are crying about it...

So once a hacker always a hacker (I actually agree with this), except for Fudge who was just 'testing' it one time (really don't buy this). The idea that people using alts are known/banned cheaters or otherwise skirting a just ID ban...except for Fudge who needs to be allowed to play and not unduly harrassed by the very enforcement of a rule he is always crying about.

I wasn't banned for hacking; I was banned for advertising hacked srevers.

I hacked once, on a password-protected server with a friend/clanmate over a year ago. I've never hacked in public games. I've never been reported or called out for hacking.

Maybe "you hack once, then you're a hacker." Fine. But quite frankly, a hacker with 21.03% accuracy and a negative K/d ratio is a pathetic hacker, and not even worthy of being reported.

http://i.imgur.com/QAQ2d.jpg

If Lorfa is reporting me for hacking, then it's even more bizarre. Lorfa has never seen me hack, nor has iD banned me for hacking. So he's pretty much following around and banning me on rumor, without any evidence backing up his asinine claims.

I'm not protesting my ban for the last fucking time; I'm asking why Lorfa is stalking me.

Because you want to be so vocal about alting, slumming and tiering and harassing to QL support

What the fuck? Stop pulling facts out of your ass and give me a couple screenshots where I complained to Quake Live support. about my ban. Until then, stop making up random claims.

Id is selective about the people they enforce their rules upon. Xhilerate was allowed to run around for a year, hacking public servers every day, despite the gigantic amount of emails and videos they received proving that he hacked:
http://bit.ly/z5ZP1P

You know why xhilerate is finally banned? Because his Premium subscription ran out.

Dutra/great/_gr8 was allowed to play in public servers for a year, despite being banned many times before. Dutra finally got banned a couple months ago, when his Premium also subscription ran out.

Stop acting as though Id's policies and rules are 100% unbiased, because they aren't. The first thing Quake Live Support checks in a cheating accusation is if the accused player has Premium membership.

And instead of actually updating the game, making new maps, fixing bugs, or even banning actual hackers who disrupt the game, Id spends its time tracking down a tier 2 shitty who has trouble strafe jumping.
My ban is justified; but Id should really re-examine their priorites.

You forgot the most important part of his post : what makes you think Lorfa is reporting you? Why him? Why not numerous different players? Why not Sync?

Because Lorfa is the only one insane enough to stalk me.
Even Sync has better things to do.

Dutra/great/_gr8 was allowed to play in public servers for a year, despite being banned many times before. Dutra finally got banned a couple months ago, when his Premium also subscription ran out.

what? i never had a premium sub on any account. where'd you get that from? lol.

and i've been playing QL since i got invited in during closed beta. they only decided to ban my accounts because they didnt like what i had to say on their forums after they went public.

probation this retard

Some of you people take this game way too seriously. I almost feel sorry (actually, nevermind, I do) that you do not get to or wilfully choose not to experience the world outside of QL and the QL forums. Some of this attention seeking is simply not normal behavior and really makes you wonder if the people seeking the attention have real life social issues. Ahh, both the blessing and the curse of the internet.

Holding personal grudges over computer games is downright sad. I'm from the USA and even I support the idea of a USA sub-forum, not because the USA is so special that it should get its on forum, but simply due to the slight chance that there could be new people who want to join this site/the QL community. It is not right to scare off these potential newcomers by all of these childish rants that frankly, have no basis in sound judgment or good taste. Whenever I go on team liquid's site I rarely see such behavior; and that is saying something, considering how much larger SC2's community is

I know, Lorfa has some problems... :(

Some of you people take this game way too seriously. I almost feel sorry (actually, nevermind, I do) that you do not get to or wilfully choose not to experience the world outside of QL and the QL forums.

fyi syncore is the guy who spent countless hours developing qlprism, all for us guys who take this game way too seriously.

carry on.

if your a game developer and you don't have the same respect for video games or take them as seriously, as your would for a pro atheltic sport or game, then you should find another line of work.


And when your looking for work, it is you we should feel sorry for.

afterall that would be your livelihood we would be talking about.. what could be more serious...

put your head in the oven

you have no evidence that it's lorfa who's reporting you. also, stop evading your ban. tee-hee

Lorfa confessed to dutra, who probably has a demo or a chatlog somewhere to show. It's up to him if he wants to show it.

Wow! I guess I picked a bad time to take a break from reading ESR! What a surprising post.

First of all, I have never reported you to anyone. I've only been on a server with you once that I can remember and that was like 20 seconds in a pre-game.

Secondly although I'd like it to be true, I don't have _any_ special access to QL admins or even quake live moderators.

Lastly until I checked my friend invite list today finally (I forgot that I had turned off the notifications and I had a bunch of them, sorry JonnyPeronni!), I had no idea that you even had another account. I saw the fudge thing and I was like ahh, he made a new account. I didn't go to the profile I just hit decline. I couldn't think of any good reason to have Fudge on my friend's list sorry :-) I did think it was pretty odd that you would send me a friend request though :-P

You talked to great/dutra/arterie/_gr8 who's been banned for more accounts than I can even imagine, yet you didn't report him. It seems like it's a personal problem with me, not with people who avoid bans.

Lorfa confessed to dutra, who probably has a demo or a chatlog somewhere to show. It's up to him if he wants to show it.

This part is particularly strange and a little scary. I don't even know dutra or those other nicks. Does he have even more names? Maybe I talked to him and he was aliased? I highly doubt it. The only person I remember talking about you with was Haku. Was curious to what he thought about the ESR thread where the pirated server thing was getting so many comments. He actually hadn't read it since he made that first post, so it wasn't a very interesting conversation.

You've reported three of my accounts already, which is bordering on obsessive. It's a bit bizarre because "normal people" don't stalk players and report them multiple times.

I haven't reported any of your accounts for anything at any time, the end.

Do you think reporting tons of people will get you back to your coveted moderator status?

I haven't reported 'tons of people' I think I've reported maybe 9 or 10 obvious aimbots, and maybe 4 or 5 forum posts that were particularly douchey/severely against the rules. Nothing that average regulars don't do all the time.

As for my moderator status I don't care either way. I am happy to moderate for them, or not is cool too. I am making the same posts as I did before, during, and after I was a moderator. s'all good.

I don't troll any of your games; I just want to play Quake, because I love the game. I'm not that angry, I'm just a bit confused as to why you would so this. Enlighten me - I want to know what it's like to talk to an obsessive stalker first-hand.

I have absolutely nothing to do with your bans. When your first account got banned it was obvious to me as to why, which I explained in that other thread. Even if I saw you playing on a server I wouldn't report you. I just don't care.

I will tell you this though, it isn't uncommon for sync/sponge/ordus to find and ban new accounts made by a banned player. They have all the tools with which to do this very quickly and I really wouldn't put it past them.

Looks like you didn't play any games on the new accounts, however two of them have the WnM tag which means at the very least, everyone in WnM could have seen your new account. Maybe some of them are llamas who wanted to feel special and reported you like, isn't this guy supposed to be banned? I have no idea.

I want to apologize for my stupid actions because I am clearly in the wrong here.

I received false info that you got me banned. Dutra told me that Lorfa reported me, and I believed him, but it turns out he was only trolling.
I sent you a friend request because if you really were the one banning me, then my account would've been closed the day after I sent the friend request.

I found out the real person who got me banned, and I'm sorry for raging at you in a very unprofessional manner. I guess I was so angry that my brain made up false facts to justify my (false) accusation. I made a mistake; I accepted a statement without verifying if it was true or not. Instead, I went straight to insulting you without finding out the truth.

I want to apologize for my stupid actions because I am clearly in the wrong here.

Apology accepted!

I received false info that you got me banned. Dutra told me that Lorfa reported me, and I believed him, but it turns out he was only trolling.

Ahh, sneaky dutra!

I sent you a friend request because if you really were the one banning me, then my account would've been closed the day after I sent the friend request.

Oh lol. Sorry I didn't get to it earlier then. It's not such a good test though because like I said I imagine the admins can flag/ban easily with just some simple database scripts.

So even if that account had been banned shortly after you sent the request it wouldn't really be too reliable a piece of evidence that it was me. Also if it wasn't banned right away and I was supposedly reporting it the reason could just be turn around time.

Yeah, like I said though I didn't even see it until today. I'm supposed to be playing more TDM games with L7, and today JonnyPeronni was like hey we could play more games if you'd accept my friend request. I was like OH NOES. Probably looked pretty dumb that I'm there on the server and haven't accepted friend request from a clan mate :-P

I found out the real person who got me banned,

Wow, how did you manage that? Was it one of the WnM people like I hypothesized?

Wow, how did you manage that? Was it one of the WnM people like I hypothesized?

No, strangely enough it was the person who told me about the hacked servers, Malamala. He insulted everyone on the server because of some petty reason (Probably because people wouldn't spec him strafe jumping or something along those lines), so the people on the server kicked him out. Malamala vowed to get everyone on the server banned.

One of my WnM friends met him in a duel server a couple days ago.
Malamala: "hi r u fudge?"
WnM Spadex: "no."
Malamala: "good i got him banned."

Right now I'm trying to keep my distance from him by avoiding west-coast NA servers, because if he's sees me again he'll probably report him.
From what I've seen, he also has some issues as well. Back on my Fudge911 account, he used to randomly send me messages asking about my favorite food, which is not something you normally talk about online...

That's the guy always asking for duels on dm17. Then when I beat him he asked me not to use the rail, and then after the game he asked if I would let him win. Sometimes QL feels like some kind of insane asylum.

LOL my friend Spadex played him on dm13. Spadex was winning 3-0 when Malamala asked him to quit because Malamala wanted to "save his stats."

is malamala like lorfa's nephew or something. I could never figure that one out?

successful troll is successful.

Dutra superjake reported your _gr8 account.

really? i was pretty sure that it was AnteroXX who did after i raped him in instagib:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODi2Gv03S78

dozens of accoutns banned for malicious activites ^


related to id employees.

dozens of accoutns banned for harrassment*

fixed.

if u sink low u sink low....with that type of sore loser and ego feeding mentality.... i would never be surprised if you said you bot.....

I always say though the only reason this game is not respectable is because how anonymous people are allowed to be.

lets put it this way... the couple times i've seen malamala it was on private 2v2 servers with lorfa present.

malamala and lorfa chatting away like good buddies. apparenlty mala is a young kid who goes to school and takes acid. They seemed to really know each other.

I'm just saying fudge. If malamala got u banned.... then you aint too far from lorfa. and why would that kid want you banned?

and whats crazy is man... Lorfa totally destroys this kid.

I mean i played a couple 2v2's with them. malamala was on my team. we got stomped. I managed to get an even ratio...but malamala got utterly destroyed. and was happily chattnig away with unlce lorfa. So something is fishy here.

cause fudge is not a rude player and was never suspected of cheating in any match i ever played with him.

little good old boy cliques in quake is partyly why this game is dead.


i'm starting to wonder if lorfa is dutra now haha. an id employee.

i'm starting to wonder if lorfa is dutra now haha

have you seen lorfa play? have you seen me play?

im pretty sure im far beyond any id staff's skill (except maybe jones, everyone else working for id sucks balls).

Jones and Yakumo.

euros dont count (yakumo)

w/e that shit is suspect just like most matches in fake-live.

so you are like the missing tier 5 status player. You didin't whine to one of your uncles or parents that work for ID to remove t5 did you? its a shame they would rather let you kill off the rest of the ffa playerbase that was left. I guess that was the better option for ID...haha.

For me i get about as much joy out of slumming as i do getting raped. its uncompetitive either, kills motivation because it feels unproductive.....etc......just lame stuff. In real life it would be embarrasing and shameful on the playground.

to me your not a competitive player....you might think that makes you one....but whats so crazy and ironic, is that getting joy out of raping newbs makes you the complete iopposite.

sounds to me like u take ffa pubs way too seriously. i guess thats to be expected from someone who's never been in a competitive team though i guess lol.

btw i dont play with the intention of slumming, i just play whatever games are available. back in q3 there was no such thing as slumming everyone just played and had fun, so its not my fault things are the way they are in QL :) if you dont like it, blame id not me

Did this actually happen? Weird.

I really don't know malamala that well and I consider him a troll of sorts.

this coming from the guy who barely utters a word in a game, to the point you think hes stuckup.... but yet replies to malamala.....who you seemed very chummy with....and your calling a troll now....lmao...w/e man.

I don't think hes a troll at all, you are.

Probably it just seemed that way. Maybe he was being "chummy" with me. He says weird, weeeeird stuff.

I try to stay off the chat unless I'm around people I know, or if someone asks me a game question.

LOOOORFAAAH TOOK MAH MOD SPOTT

I don't play FFA thats the game mode for newbs.

You prolly know that and thasts why you like to play it.

and you play with the intention of slumming. I never played with you but know how you camp servers that have newbs and leave servers with players who are decent. Just joining FFA is slumming in itself.

And in q3 the slumming was worse. Because players like you didn't get banned at all. There was no way to stop down tiering...or a slum lord player, like youself, camping a super newb server.

Imagine if there was only t4. and there was no t1, t2, or t3. It would be like q3 then. Thats exactly what q3 was. Fun for only a minority of players. Full of more dishonorable players then even ql. It would be an even less and more measly playerbase then we have in ql, which is what q3 was.

So i applaud ID, meaning probably marty stratton, the only non fag on the team literally......for at least trying.

But I still think they can do more to make it work.


the only reason people are even playing quake is because of tiers and stats.....and to say q3, a game that was even deader then ql, is better implying it was more popular? just exposes you again dude as a corrupt lying newb hunter..

Your one of the guys that asked id to remove tier 5 so you could have more newbs to slum and run out of the game. You want to go back to the way it is in q3...because you didnt' get banned.....and you had more newbs to slum whenever you wanted.

Faking your skill match is cheating. which means slumming on an alt is cheating. and more detrimental to the playerbase then botting. quake actually has people playing now....unlike q3......because of these things you try so desperately to undermine. which is the red flag of a cheater.

IMO slummers deserve a ban more then bots.

That was totally on topic. Like all of your posts. Keep on the good work!

the only reason people are even playing quake is because of tiers and stats.....and to say q3, a game that was even deader then ql, is better implying it was more popular?

Q3 in its prime was more popular. Since you're a newb, you should probably avoid discussing things that you weren't around for to begin with.

i had doom lan parties in highschool.

and counterstrike is what took all the good quake players away. quake was popular, like most games.... for its first couple years.....

Any player who left Q3 for CS would never have stayed with Q3.

ask chibers..... shit .....as Cooller....

why you still post here is beyond me man.

A lot of things seem to be beyond you.

LMFAO i love reading ur clueless replies about previous quakes and other FPS games ahaha it actually just shows how fuckign newb u really are ahahah 10/10

btw: you make posts like that bashing Q3 yet you wonder why no one respects you here. lol good job.

He's as stupid as Fudge and Ray. Don't expect intelligence and you won't be disappointed. That's how I've learned to deal with these three :/

Kitten used to look up to us, but he stopped because he couldn't understand a word we were saying and instead, labeled us as idiots to prevent himself from realizing his own inadequacy.

I've never been stupid enough to look up to you. I was stupid enough to look up to ray for a while... what a mistake that was!

i look up to xtruder, flog, and detlew. they are the original ql trolls

another player banned from playing ql. what a great respectable site this is. Very similar to the ql forums as well.

And in q3 the slumming was worse. Because players like you didn't get banned at all. There was no way to stop down tiering...or a slum lord player, like youself, camping a super newb server.

1) There was no "slumming" in Q3, because there were no tiers to separate players with. Everyone played everyone. What separated people was their individual reputation and skill, not some easily abused, badly implemented and arbitrary tier system.

2) If someone was making trouble on a server, they'd get promptly banned by the owner or one of his admins. People were rarely, if ever, banned for being better than the rest of the players.

Imagine if there was only t4. and there was no t1, t2, or t3. It would be like q3 then. Thats exactly what q3 was. Fun for only a minority of players. Full of more dishonorable players then even ql. It would be an even less and more measly playerbase then we have in ql, which is what q3 was.

See, that's your newschool brainwave shining through. Back in the day, noobs didn't complain about getting destroyed (well, less than today, at least), they kept playing better players in order to get better themselves. The difference is, today very few people have the perseverence and mental stamina to learn from their defeats. Newbs of this day and age are pussies who feel uncomfortable playing against people noticeably better than themselves.

I'm starting to think the whole idea of tiers is bullshit.

See, that's your newschool brainwave shining through.

i lold

"""1) There was no "slumming" in Q3, because there were no tiers to separate players with. Everyone played everyone. What separated people was their individual reputation and skill, not some easily abused, badly implemented and arbitrary tier system."""

camping a newb server is the same thing. No matter what bracket that server is labeled. Back in the days people skill matched themselves much like people do on a real life ball court in the park, by picking a server thats has players of your ability. But when a bunch of slum lords who are obviously too good for the server start to camp it everyday.....the lack of good admins in quake took its toll.

""""2) If someone was making trouble on a server, they'd get promptly banned by the owner or one of his admins. People were rarely, if ever, banned for being better than the rest of the players.""""

they only started getting banned in ql. As i said in the previous statement...ql never had good admins.... and the good ones they did have made the switch to cs 1.6 after it got popular. And your right...even in ql....most votekicks are for players not good enough...not those too good. But to truly ensure competitive matches....it goes both ways. LoL is more popular for that reason.... no matter what lies you tell yourself. LoL also has a /report button for someone who is too bad.....it goes both ways.


and again...like i told the previous poster, who is banned from playing ql, I been around since the beginning. Since doom lan parties, when SG was a viable main weapon in a deathmatch...lol

quake died before defrag mod came out... so to cite the past is just backing up what i say. QL slightly resurrected the game for the brief time it was in beta.