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It seems that some people have expirenced recent problems with Logitech's Mouse products. Problems such as using Logitech's own device driver for their Mouse products, called "Mouseware". Mouseware has been known recently to cause some problems, such as not remembering mouse binds in Quake 3, the mouse pointer would freeze after idle times, scroll mouse problems occur in games such as Half-Life, mouse acceleration problem in games like Quake 2, Quake 3, and Half-Life.
To put it simply, Mouseware has a whole set of issues. Of course this is a big deal for people like myself that are aware of the problem. Some people using the Mouseware drivers find themselves lucky and not to expirence these common problems. Different Computer systems do vary. Most likely using Intellimouse drivers with your Logitech mouse might solve some of you're problems, as mentioned; or not in this column. Here are some of my suggestions:
1. Uninstall Mouseware (If you have it installed, if not; then continue on to the 2nd task)
2. Take the mouse off the USB port and use the PS/2 adaptor to plug it into the mouse port
3. Reboot (obviously, the mouse won't come up otherwise)
4. Install the Microsoft Intellipoint v4.1+ drivers
5. Choose Intellimouse Explorer from within the Intellimouse Driver setup
Not only are the Intellimouse drivers less buggy than Mouseware, they're also smaller and less memory and CPU intensive.
Generaly, Logitech Mouseware drivers work fine, if you install them before setting your sensitivity within each game. Then, you remove 'EM_EXEC.EXE' from the Run registry information. 'EM_EXEC.EXE' allows you to configure your mouse buttons for special functions, but it also makes the mousewheel unusable in many games. The patch that Logitech posts on their website to fix the mousewheel doesn't work anymore, you must make sure that 'EM_EXEC.EXE' is not running in the background. If you are using USB mouse devices, be sure to check your Motherboard's site for a USB patch fix so that the problems that I have mention will hopefully be fixed.
I've been told that using Mouseware drivers v9.60 still has some stability problems using a USB mouse device from Logitech. I don't know if the new MW v9.73 drivers have solved the problems mentioned in this column. I guess, in the future, when Logitech releases new MW drivers that will hopefully fix anysort of problems with their Mouse devices. I will look forward on what's new and solved about the new drivers (If I can).
I was inspired to write this column in followup of this thread. I hope I have given you interesting thoughts, and hopefully helped some people understand this problem. Don't forget to check out this column daily or so, since I might add/update new things.
To put it simply, Mouseware has a whole set of issues. Of course this is a big deal for people like myself that are aware of the problem. Some people using the Mouseware drivers find themselves lucky and not to expirence these common problems. Different Computer systems do vary. Most likely using Intellimouse drivers with your Logitech mouse might solve some of you're problems, as mentioned; or not in this column. Here are some of my suggestions:
1. Uninstall Mouseware (If you have it installed, if not; then continue on to the 2nd task)
2. Take the mouse off the USB port and use the PS/2 adaptor to plug it into the mouse port
3. Reboot (obviously, the mouse won't come up otherwise)
4. Install the Microsoft Intellipoint v4.1+ drivers
5. Choose Intellimouse Explorer from within the Intellimouse Driver setup
Not only are the Intellimouse drivers less buggy than Mouseware, they're also smaller and less memory and CPU intensive.
Generaly, Logitech Mouseware drivers work fine, if you install them before setting your sensitivity within each game. Then, you remove 'EM_EXEC.EXE' from the Run registry information. 'EM_EXEC.EXE' allows you to configure your mouse buttons for special functions, but it also makes the mousewheel unusable in many games. The patch that Logitech posts on their website to fix the mousewheel doesn't work anymore, you must make sure that 'EM_EXEC.EXE' is not running in the background. If you are using USB mouse devices, be sure to check your Motherboard's site for a USB patch fix so that the problems that I have mention will hopefully be fixed.
I've been told that using Mouseware drivers v9.60 still has some stability problems using a USB mouse device from Logitech. I don't know if the new MW v9.73 drivers have solved the problems mentioned in this column. I guess, in the future, when Logitech releases new MW drivers that will hopefully fix anysort of problems with their Mouse devices. I will look forward on what's new and solved about the new drivers (If I can).
I was inspired to write this column in followup of this thread. I hope I have given you interesting thoughts, and hopefully helped some people understand this problem. Don't forget to check out this column daily or so, since I might add/update new things.
Once again, If you're not having any sort of problems using Microsoft's default mouse driver (an OS default reference driver that your OS installed, like for example Windows 2000, XP, etc.) and Mouse configuration application, then don't use either the Microsoft Intellimouse drivers, or Logitech's own MouseWare (till Logitech releases new and stable drivers). Take notice, Microsoft's default mouse drivers aren't like Logitech's MW drivers. So when you are using Microsoft's stock drivers, your optical mouse DPI is at 400. While using Logitech's MW drivers will enable your mouse DPI to work at 800, which is the correct DPI setting(If you have an optical mouse that is capable of an 800DPI setting).
D/L Windows XP TweakUI here
D/L Logitech's MW v9.76 (English) here
D/L Logitech's MW Configuration Program here
D/L The latest Razer drivers for Windows XP here
D/L the Windows 2000/XP Mouse Fix here (Readme)
D/L the VIA Tech USB Filter Driver here (For All/New VIA Chipsets)
D/L Windows XP's compability update here(Update for games including Half-Life)
This patch fixes very specific issues under specific circumstances, described below. Users who are unsure as to whether they should install the patch can be assured that if they do install the patch, even if it is not necessary, it will cause no harm to their system. The patch will detect your systems configuration and install only when necessary. The patch will only install on certain older VIA host controller revisions. Under these circumstances, the patch will resolve the following issues:
- Fixes the issue when a connected usb hub that has no usb devices connected will be disabled after another usb hub is attached at another available root port.
- Fixes the issue when transferring large of amounts of data, the system will hang.
- Avoids noise from a USB audio converter or speaker.
- Supports a usb add-on card.
Under Win2000/XP: This patch will save all register values in the memory before a system enters Stand By mode and then restore those registers when the systems resumes. This therefore avoids the situation where USB devices are not ready for use after a resume from Stand By mode.
- Fixes the issue when a connected usb hub that has no usb devices connected will be disabled after another usb hub is attached at another available root port.
- Fixes the issue when transferring large of amounts of data, the system will hang.
- Avoids noise from a USB audio converter or speaker.
- Supports a usb add-on card.
Under Win2000/XP: This patch will save all register values in the memory before a system enters Stand By mode and then restore those registers when the systems resumes. This therefore avoids the situation where USB devices are not ready for use after a resume from Stand By mode.
Tweaks:
HL:Counter-Strike Mouse Acceleration Fix
Add the following commands into your CS shortcut:
-noforcemparms -noforcemaccel
The acceleration in CS should be now eliminated by enterting these commands to your CS shortcut.
Note: Make sure you applyed the Windows 2000/XP mouse acceleration registry patch.
-noforcemparms -noforcemaccel
The acceleration in CS should be now eliminated by enterting these commands to your CS shortcut.
Note: Make sure you applyed the Windows 2000/XP mouse acceleration registry patch.
PS2 Port Mouse Rate Adjusment (Windows NT/2000)
Ever noticed how your mouse cursor flickers sometimes or doesn't run as smoothly as you would like? That's because the refresh rate is set too low, modify this key to speed things up and make your mouse cursor move smoothly.
1. Open your Windows registry by going to START>RUN and type w/o the quotes 'regedit'.
2. Locate[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESYSTEMCurrentControlSetServicesi8042prtParameters]
3. Create a new DWORD value, or modify the existing value, called "SampleRate" and set it to equal 60 - 200 (decimal), where a higher number means a smoother cursor.
4. Restart Windows for the change to take effect.
You can also adjust your PS2 mouse rate by using an application called "PS2 Mouse Rate", which is only for Win9x systems. Download it here
1. Open your Windows registry by going to START>RUN and type w/o the quotes 'regedit'.
2. Locate[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESYSTEMCurrentControlSetServicesi8042prtParameters]
3. Create a new DWORD value, or modify the existing value, called "SampleRate" and set it to equal 60 - 200 (decimal), where a higher number means a smoother cursor.
4. Restart Windows for the change to take effect.
You can also adjust your PS2 mouse rate by using an application called "PS2 Mouse Rate", which is only for Win9x systems. Download it here
Mouse Performance Fix (Windows XP)
If you are having problems in games, the XP interface, etc., try this fix.
1. Open the Control Panel
2. If using common tasks open Printers And Hardwaer, then Mouse.
If Using classic view open Mouse.
3. Click on the "Enhance Pointer Precision" tab and uncheck the following: "Show Location Of Pointer When I Press The CTRL Key"
The Enhance Pointer Precision function applies an acceleration curve to the mouse. This option is found in Windows 2000 as well.
Another area to check:
1. Click on the Hardware tab and click Properties
2. In the new box click the Advance Settings tab.
3. Set Sample Rate to the higest number. (this is how many times per second windows checks the position of the mouse. This means higher number = more response.)
4. Increase "INPUT BUFFER LENGTH" to the highest number. (this is windows "buffer" or temporary storage for data from the mouse)
5. If you don't have a wheel on your mouse, under WHEEL DETECTION select DETECTION DISABLED. (this will free up resources for windows)
1. Open the Control Panel
2. If using common tasks open Printers And Hardwaer, then Mouse.
If Using classic view open Mouse.
3. Click on the "Enhance Pointer Precision" tab and uncheck the following: "Show Location Of Pointer When I Press The CTRL Key"
The Enhance Pointer Precision function applies an acceleration curve to the mouse. This option is found in Windows 2000 as well.
Another area to check:
1. Click on the Hardware tab and click Properties
2. In the new box click the Advance Settings tab.
3. Set Sample Rate to the higest number. (this is how many times per second windows checks the position of the mouse. This means higher number = more response.)
4. Increase "INPUT BUFFER LENGTH" to the highest number. (this is windows "buffer" or temporary storage for data from the mouse)
5. If you don't have a wheel on your mouse, under WHEEL DETECTION select DETECTION DISABLED. (this will free up resources for windows)
Logitech Mousewheel Fix (Win9x/2000/XP)
1. Disable your mousewheel in Logitech's MouseWare application. Set the "Scroll Lines" to none.
2. Download TweakUI here
3. Enable the "mousewheel" option in TweakUI, and set the desired scroll lines there.
Results may vary.
2. Download TweakUI here
3. Enable the "mousewheel" option in TweakUI, and set the desired scroll lines there.
Results may vary.
Permanent Acceleration Fix (Windows XP)
It seems that even without pointer precision disabled, the mouse under XP is still influenced by an acceleration curve. This is especially noticeable in games.
1. Download this registry file, that will disable the mouse acceleration, w/o editing the registry keys via the registry.
2. Assuming that the file is extracted from the ZIP file, run the registry file and reboot Windows. Windows XP's acceleration should be now disabled.
1. Download this registry file, that will disable the mouse acceleration, w/o editing the registry keys via the registry.
2. Assuming that the file is extracted from the ZIP file, run the registry file and reboot Windows. Windows XP's acceleration should be now disabled.
MX300 and new Mousware 9.73 drivers (Thanks to sandman)
Since I see that lots of people are having trouble getting rid of the crappy negative acceleration that Logitech forces upon us through their latest Mouseware I thought it may be useful to fix this using not the drivers that come with the mouse, but the new ones that come with Mouseware 9.73. Most of the information I got was from this post http://www.esreality.com/cs.php?a=post&id=236204 but with a small addition of mine.
1. Download the new Mouseware 9.73 here
2. DO NOT INSTALL THEM. Instead using WinRAR extract the contents of the EXE you get into a folder.
3. Go to Control Panel->System->Device Manager->Mice and Other Pointing Devices and click on update drivers. Now instead of letting Windows search for the best drivers manually go to the folder that you extracted and install LMUsbXP.inf or LMPs2XP.inf (for Windows XP and USB or if you use Ps2 then use the LMPs2XP.inf). Do the same thing for Windows 2000 except use the LMOUUSB2.INF or LMOUSE.INF depending on whether you have usb or ps2 respectively.
4. Go into Regedit and edit under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESYSTEMCurrentControlSetServicesLMouFlt2ParametersOpticalMouse11 000
MouseSpeedX to 100
MouseSpeedY to 100
Acceleration to Off
Resolution to 8
5. Restart your computer.
Poof, you should be good to go :) You should have now 0 positive and negetive acceleration and your MX300 should be working at 800dpi. Hope this helped.
1. Download the new Mouseware 9.73 here
2. DO NOT INSTALL THEM. Instead using WinRAR extract the contents of the EXE you get into a folder.
3. Go to Control Panel->System->Device Manager->Mice and Other Pointing Devices and click on update drivers. Now instead of letting Windows search for the best drivers manually go to the folder that you extracted and install LMUsbXP.inf or LMPs2XP.inf (for Windows XP and USB or if you use Ps2 then use the LMPs2XP.inf). Do the same thing for Windows 2000 except use the LMOUUSB2.INF or LMOUSE.INF depending on whether you have usb or ps2 respectively.
4. Go into Regedit and edit under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESYSTEMCurrentControlSetServicesLMouFlt2ParametersOpticalMouse11 000
MouseSpeedX to 100
MouseSpeedY to 100
Acceleration to Off
Resolution to 8
5. Restart your computer.
Poof, you should be good to go :) You should have now 0 positive and negetive acceleration and your MX300 should be working at 800dpi. Hope this helped.
Logitech MX300/500/700 Acceleration and DPI Fix (Thanks to Lucky)
Logitech MX acceleration fix:
Change the following settings in "HKEY_CURRENT_USERControl PanelMouse":
->delete the string value "MouseSensitivity"
->set "MouseSpeed" to "0"
->set "MouseThreshold1" to "0"
->set "MouseThreshold2" to "0"
Change the following settings in "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESYSTEMCurrentControlSetServicesLMouFlt2ParametersOpticalMouse11 000"
->set "Acceleration" to "Off"
->set "MouseSpeedX" to "200"
->set "MouseSpeedY" to "200"
->set "Resolution" to "8"
Now you have 800dpi and no negative acceleration. Have fun.
Change the following settings in "HKEY_CURRENT_USERControl PanelMouse":
->delete the string value "MouseSensitivity"
->set "MouseSpeed" to "0"
->set "MouseThreshold1" to "0"
->set "MouseThreshold2" to "0"
Change the following settings in "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESYSTEMCurrentControlSetServicesLMouFlt2ParametersOpticalMouse11 000"
->set "Acceleration" to "Off"
->set "MouseSpeedX" to "200"
->set "MouseSpeedY" to "200"
->set "Resolution" to "8"
Now you have 800dpi and no negative acceleration. Have fun.
How to fix your Logitech MX500 in CS, Q3, RTCW, etc.
Read the article here
Disable StickyKeys (Windows XP)
Wonder why when you press the Shift key alot of times, then Windows will ask you about a Accessibility option about its feature called "StickyKeys"?. Well It is annoying and can distract you while playing a game. Here are the intructions how to disable it.
1. Start > Control Panel > Select Accessibility Options.
2. Uncheck the option called "Use StickyKeys"
3. From the Accessibility options, I think you know what to disable from there.
That all said and done, StickyKeys should be disabled, and futuremore, it will not bother you anymore.
1. Start > Control Panel > Select Accessibility Options.
2. Uncheck the option called "Use StickyKeys"
3. From the Accessibility options, I think you know what to disable from there.
That all said and done, StickyKeys should be disabled, and futuremore, it will not bother you anymore.
Logitech MouseWare v9.76 Drivers
I tested these drivers with my Logitech Optical Mouse and my MX300. While the new feature called 'Disable acceleration in games' feature doesn't amaze me. With the option enabled in MW, my sensitvity was very fast, and was based on my Windows sensitivity, not my Q3 sens. Even with in_mouse "1" and in_mouse "-1", my sensitivity was still very fast, and it feels like theres an acceleration enabled. I disabled the new feature, with the option disabled. My sensitivity in Q3 wasn't very fast anymore, and I didn't feel any acceleration to my mouse speed movement. Weird huh?. Some people like these new drivers, while others disklike them, and uses the old version of MW, which is v9.73. In the meanwhile, you can download the new v9.76 driver here. The only point on using MW drivers are for the sake of using a mouse that works in its proper DPI setting, which is 800DPI, instead of 400DPI(With the use of Microsoft's default drivers from Win9x/2000/XP). Every driver release is bound to fix or add new features. I didn't notice anything new with these new drivers.
Razer Drivers with Logitech (Windows XP)
Wanna use Razer's mouse drivers for your Logitech mouse? Instead of the shitty MouseWare drivers? Well now you can! Using dickobrazz's modified INF installation file, which will allow you to install the Razer drivers, and also, a benifit to use Karna's Razer mouse configuration software, instead of using MouseWare.
Here are the instructions:
1. Download the latest Razer drivers here.
2. Download the modified INF file, and place it in your C:Program FilesRazerDrivers. Make sure you delete the old Razer.inf file, before placing the modifed INF file in the directory.
3. Now go to your device manger, by pressing Control and the Pause Break keys on your Keyboard, or by going to Start > Control Panel > System > Hardware > Device Manager.
4. Assuming that you have the Logitech mouse installed in either the USB or PS/2 connections (I reccomend USB and also the Razer drivers are USB recommend), navigate to the Mice and other pointing devices, and update the device that you see, like Logitech USB Wheel Mouse. Now once you're in the update driver prompt, choose the option called "Install from a list or specific localtion". Once that option is choosen, click on the option called "Don't search. I will choose the driver to install". After that, now click on the "Have Disk..." option, and it will prompt you to search for the a driver. From the "Install From Disk" option, Choose "Browse" and then locate where the modified Razer.inf file is, where I told you to place it, which is located at C:Program FilesRazerDrivers and choose the Razer.inf file. Now it should prompt you to install a device driver name called "Karna USB Mouse". Choose the option to install that driver, and click on the "Next" option. Now that the driver is installed, reboot Windows. Now you should be able to use Razer's configuration software.
The question is, what will I benifit uppon using these drivers from Razer, with my Logitech mouse? Well for these following reasons:
1. Razer drivers aren't buggy, compared to MW.
2. Razer's drivers doesn't install and modify registry settings that will mess up Windows, such as Mouse Acceleration and other mouse settings, that aren't pleasant.
3. Razer drivers are bloat free, it only installs the system driver, and using it's own mouse configuration software to colaborate the mouse settings.
Now a final question that you're wondering. Now the Razer drivers are designed to give a Razer mouse product at a 2000DPI rate, where'as we are using a Logitech mouse, for example, an 800DPI model. I'am sure that these Razer drivers wouldn't give you a 2000DPI configuration, because the mouse we're using can only handle an [800DPI rate. I guess these drivers will enable a Logitech mouse product with an 800DPI setting automatically. Tho I'am not 100% sure, but if it's true, then you'd rather use Razer's drivers, instead of MouseWare...
Thanks to dickobrazz's for posting this information from this thread.
Here are the instructions:
1. Download the latest Razer drivers here.
2. Download the modified INF file, and place it in your C:Program FilesRazerDrivers. Make sure you delete the old Razer.inf file, before placing the modifed INF file in the directory.
3. Now go to your device manger, by pressing Control and the Pause Break keys on your Keyboard, or by going to Start > Control Panel > System > Hardware > Device Manager.
4. Assuming that you have the Logitech mouse installed in either the USB or PS/2 connections (I reccomend USB and also the Razer drivers are USB recommend), navigate to the Mice and other pointing devices, and update the device that you see, like Logitech USB Wheel Mouse. Now once you're in the update driver prompt, choose the option called "Install from a list or specific localtion". Once that option is choosen, click on the option called "Don't search. I will choose the driver to install". After that, now click on the "Have Disk..." option, and it will prompt you to search for the a driver. From the "Install From Disk" option, Choose "Browse" and then locate where the modified Razer.inf file is, where I told you to place it, which is located at C:Program FilesRazerDrivers and choose the Razer.inf file. Now it should prompt you to install a device driver name called "Karna USB Mouse". Choose the option to install that driver, and click on the "Next" option. Now that the driver is installed, reboot Windows. Now you should be able to use Razer's configuration software.
The question is, what will I benifit uppon using these drivers from Razer, with my Logitech mouse? Well for these following reasons:
1. Razer drivers aren't buggy, compared to MW.
2. Razer's drivers doesn't install and modify registry settings that will mess up Windows, such as Mouse Acceleration and other mouse settings, that aren't pleasant.
3. Razer drivers are bloat free, it only installs the system driver, and using it's own mouse configuration software to colaborate the mouse settings.
Now a final question that you're wondering. Now the Razer drivers are designed to give a Razer mouse product at a 2000DPI rate, where'as we are using a Logitech mouse, for example, an 800DPI model. I'am sure that these Razer drivers wouldn't give you a 2000DPI configuration, because the mouse we're using can only handle an [800DPI rate. I guess these drivers will enable a Logitech mouse product with an 800DPI setting automatically. Tho I'am not 100% sure, but if it's true, then you'd rather use Razer's drivers, instead of MouseWare...
Thanks to dickobrazz's for posting this information from this thread.
Manually Removing MouseWare Drivers (Windows 2000/XP)
Read the article from Logitech
Edited by Carmac at 10:39 GMT, 28th Dec 2003 - 216018 Hits
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