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A second of lag at game start (28 comments)

( Forum: QL)

Posted by tnz @ 11:02 CDT, 15 October 2012 - iMsg

Dear readers,

I join a QL server, hit F3... The server is ready and countdown starts...

5, 4, 3, 2, 1, FIGHT... First spawn! And then... half a second of frozen screen.

When this lag is over I sometimes find myself in lava or another disadvantageous position. What could be causing this lag? I had this with autoaction 0 as well as on other values (my first theory was it might be some disk access problem when demorecording starts).

I don't always get this problem, but at least in 70% of the games I play I do get it. I also get it in duel.

Apart from this I do not have any performance issues in QL.

Does anyone have this problem too? Does someone know what might cause it, and if there might be a solution?

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<< Comment #1 @ 11:35 CDT, 15 October 2012 >>

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Dm13, RA spawn - lava

I just got used to stop pressing W before the match starts and just be still when I see "2,1, fight"

<< Comment #2 @ 12:02 CDT, 15 October 2012 >>

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maza - Reply to #1

you shouldn't do that D:

<< Comment #4 @ 13:25 CDT, 15 October 2012 >>

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T1E ' - Reply to #2

zzZZ you'd never jump out of a balloon from 35 km in the sky?!

edit: let me rephrase

zzZZ if you're too pussy to hold +f on spawn you'll never get the chance to jump out of a balloon 35 km in the sky

Edited by T1E at 15:58 CDT, 17 October 2012

<< Comment #18 @ 07:16 CDT, 18 October 2012 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #1

>tfw accidentally going to the lg jumpad in ztn

<< Comment #3 @ 12:23 CDT, 15 October 2012 >>

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tnz

Yeah, I have also stopped pressing +forward at first spawn, but even then you still lose some time, while the first spawn is one of the most important moments in most gametypes.

There must be a solution for this, right? Some cvar perhaps...

<< Comment #5 @ 13:30 CDT, 15 October 2012 >>

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T1E '

I forgot about that one

it started with one of the updates last year or so, even visible on streams (it's annoying there as well)

<< Comment #11 @ 09:27 CDT, 17 October 2012 >>

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nex1 : - Reply to #5

no problem, usually the first 5-15 seconds of a duel are in a floating camera pointed against a wall

<< Comment #6 @ 14:12 CDT, 15 October 2012 >>

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I thought everyone always had that.
If you start to record on warm-up, does it stop and start a new one when the game begins? If not, you could test if that's really related...

Edited by FlashSoul at 14:13 CDT, 15 October 2012

<< Comment #7 @ 15:26 CDT, 15 October 2012 >>

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faerie_

Explains why I spawned on top of the void the other day.

<< Comment #8 @ 16:28 CDT, 15 October 2012 >>

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Anonymous (79.207.114.20)

nope, you don't ALWAYS have that. i live in germany, and when i play on german servers i almost never have this issue. but, let's say i'm playing on SE i'll almost always lag for the first 1-2 seconds. i posted this on the ql support forums, as well as got someone from support to (supposedly) help me out. provided him with details, demos (dunno what good they are), some cvar settings, links to different stream archives documenting this very issue.. so far no response to this last report of mine, which probably means they are working on it right as we speak (hah.)

<< Comment #9 @ 02:03 CDT, 16 October 2012 >>

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Anonymous (82.145.216.74)

never had this problem.
my problem is that it takes 20secs to join a server (with prem suscribtion).

u tried resetting cfg?
tried other computer?

<< Comment #10 @ 03:04 CDT, 16 October 2012 >>

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hazrd

I've always had that, I thought it was a feature.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7QX0uojwCs

<< Comment #12 @ 09:32 CDT, 17 October 2012 >>

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nex1 :

don't worry, it's totally normal, (assuming that a common bug could be considered normal),i've often seen demos of pro's matches, and they started in that way... they were disoriented too, but as soon as the lag disappeared they run like hell; luckily the major part of the pro duel maps haven't dangerous spawns.

<< Comment #13 @ 09:42 CDT, 17 October 2012 >>

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aeoL

Dat feel when you hold forward and spawn at RA on aerowalk but the lag prevents you from picking up RA :-(

On maps like ztn I always hold forward, but for aerowalk I like spam press it to make sure I get that RA haha.

<< Comment #17 @ 07:01 CDT, 18 October 2012 >>

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #13

oh don't get me started on aero spawns. The one you mention is rage-inducing.

LG spawn -> next frame on your screen you're on the jump pad :c

<< Comment #14 @ 04:49 CDT, 18 October 2012 >>

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PURRI

I started to get this very recently... I got it a few times yesterday and I have a feeling that when this happened to me it was only to me = I lost important items at start of certain maps like silence where you can grab 2x of the major items if you react very quickly.

If anyone has a solution for this (doubt it) please let me know as we are going for a lan tournament this weekend and things like this can determine the start of the game :(

<< Comment #15 @ 05:43 CDT, 18 October 2012 >>

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T1E ' - Reply to #14

this is a very recent problem and started to happen to me yesterday too, it's something different I assume and has to do with the packet loss on .de servers
I'm 5 sec afk at the very start of the game o_O

<< Comment #22 @ 14:57 CDT, 18 October 2012 >>

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zealot - Reply to #15

.de servers are fucked up (and .nl too) and have been for weeks :(

<< Comment #23 @ 14:58 CDT, 18 October 2012 >>

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #22

If that's so, the guys over at my ISP office got yelled at for no reason :D

<< Comment #24 @ 15:01 CDT, 18 October 2012 >>

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zealot - Reply to #23

depends, it's fucked for german adsl, rest is fine afaik. we just get routed through half of europe :d

<< Comment #16 @ 06:45 CDT, 18 October 2012 >>

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filo

... i have this small lag.. everytime i make a server join in .. then when i switch to PG i get like half a sec lag.

idtech3 engine, it must be true what they say about it. ... it runs on magic and unihorns.

or

code itself is to maintstream for idtech3

... choose your anwser.

<< Comment #19 @ 08:25 CDT, 18 October 2012 >>

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UwU

I noticed something similar. At the end of the game, it takes twice as long as usual to get the map vote done (and usually some players time out or drop until the vote starts). If the same map is voted, I get the a few seconds of lag at the beginning of the warmup.

<< Comment #20 @ 08:43 CDT, 18 October 2012 >>

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Harps

This is really weird. Had this happen to me twice yesterday for the first time too, two duels on Aerowalk. I was playing on a UK server. Lost all control at start ffs :|

<< Comment #21 @ 11:05 CDT, 18 October 2012 >>

By

chubz

I've had this for a longer period of time, but it got amplified lately, I start and there is 2 second no reaction from input devices other than first key pressed and that is it.
Also I takes awhile to even connect to a server since the last update for me, i.e like 30 seconds to get to the connect screen.

I'll try clearing out my disk, maybe it help, and I hope someone will give us a clue to a solution to this.

<< Comment #25 @ 03:27 CST, 23 January 2013 >>

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Mou7on - Reply to #21

It won't help, got the same exact issue on two setups (dell vostro laptop + nice desktop with I7/8Gb/580GTX) since the last update also... It's not on our side :/

<< Comment #26 @ 04:23 CST, 23 January 2013 >>

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klhertz

Always had the same issue and still have it.

The only difference is that I got this lag at 100% of matches and I'd say for a second or so. And it's ""Connection interrupted".

Not very nice handicap. At dm6, if we both spawn on LG I find myself getting 100% shaft as the first frag quite often.

Edited by klhertz at 04:24 CST, 23 January 2013

<< Comment #27 @ 04:33 CST, 23 January 2013 >>

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arronax

It seems like the starting second depends on your ping

I know that like 0-50 ms, max lag until 00:02~
I've tried it with 70+ ms, I get to start around 00:04 with a slow motion laggy intro

<< Comment #28 @ 04:36 CST, 23 January 2013 >>

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melechesh '

Something similar happens when calling a time-in.

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