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Don't think it would be cheating, but why all these help accessories?
The skill is to time in your head! Not that hard to apply +25 or +35 anyway :-)

But to remember it while you're heavily multitasking is much harder. : P

Yeah, but thats part of the game :-)

And part of the rage. : D

Can't you already do that with an external program, as long as you are triggering the timer by pressing a (keyboard) button?

Of course it's cheating.

Okay, so what about your mom timing for you? Technically it's the same, she can focus on timing while you focus on the game. Would they, for example, throw me out from a LAN if I brought my mom along who would just sit behind me all the time whispering me the times?

As far as i remember it was allowed to have a "coach" in TDM in Q3, but im pretty sure you would be disqualified if someone times items for you in QL in either duel or TDM.

Yeah, I heard about coaches, I think Dis and Vor mentioned them some time ago on stream. Still, not sure what they meant exactly. It's logical though, team sports usually involve coaches. If gaming is moving towards esports, I can see the rationality of allowing coaches.

The coach had a split screen view of his team and I thought it was the most awesome feature in q3 tdm. No idea why it was removed or why people deem it "silly" or "too easy" nowadays.

However, the use of external help for the game should be considered cheating. so a mouse with build in timer is cheating.

Edit: and I really HOPE they throw you out of the LAN if you bring your mother to time... After laughing at you ;)

Coaching was an ok feature in Q3, but it still took some of the skill away from the players as they shouldnt think about timing. Its was nice as the coach had an good overview of the players positions, but in QL you have the yellow triangles above teammates wich afaik you didnt have in Q3, so imo they shouldnt let coaching be allowed again. Actually think some teams had coaches standing behind them on LAN aswell back then.

well, some teams had people timing for them in important games, either in their "headquarters" sk style or they gathered in an internet cafe. the coach function was useful to even things out a bit for teams more spread out.

We used to have multipov in Eurocup while playing. Multipov for the coach who would give us all the timings. He would time all major weapons and items for us. It was fucking awesome. That was like in 2005?!

i've got a better idea

you buy an electrical cattle prod and program it to zap every 20 seconds, then you stick it up your ass and you will never forget a red armor again

But if the enemy delays red its kinda useless? :)

who says people would use it for timing? :)

lol'd

then you just get to enjoy it for no reason :D

this can be fun only in Finland

It is CHEATING, noob!

Are you sure you want to play Quake? You're sacrificing the timing element just to have the upper hand. Posts like these make me wonder how saturated Duel, Team Deathmatch and Free For All are with time cheaters.

It's just a theoretical question.

If someone wanted to cheat, using timers would be a lot easier than manufacturing a mouse that can time, but only like a human (so if you don't know when was it picked up, you're screwed).

Humans don't flash lights and beep when something important is happening.

This. The problem here is that that mouse is as cheats as the timers, only that this is more for noobs.

these threads always deliver

I've got one word for you : pedals.

It's so brilliant that Stephen Hawking couldn't even start to comprehend why it hasn't been done yet.

The premise is easy : you don't use your feet when you play Quake, it's some quality life engineering that is completely wasted by doing nothing while you are still calculating obnoxious numbers in your head. Your brain is all like "SHIT I CAN'T DO EVERYTHING" while your feet are sitting there being all smelly and useless and shit.
So the conclusion is obvious, you code some kind of timing hud similar to the one used in QL that is controlled by some pedals. 3-4 pedals, one for each items (mh, ra, ya) and when one item is picked up you let your lazy feet do the job for once.

It's also good when you are at the LAN afterparty on the dancefloor because your now fancy footwork is bringing all the girls to your yard, and you know korean ain't got shit on your timing moves.

I made a script for timing not so sophisticated but works.
My script works using the mouse wheel, forwards print in screen/hud increasing intervals of 5 seconds 00-05...06-10......56-00 wich is the time you have to pick up the item again, backwards decrease the time in 5 seconds intervals.
And automatically binds a mouse button to print that time in team chat.

Script:

using the print cvar:

http://pastebin.com/iTXCctNS

using HUD time stamps remains in the screen includes item icon

http://pastebin.com/S54sT82j

Go play CA if you don't want to time items ;)