wild dreams.. was it wet too!?

i won^^

twister uses rail
it's super effective
owzo is dazed

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how about playing chess while thinking the pieces are ninjas

Turn-based Quake? :D

it wouldnt be quake its a text-deathmatch based on quake duel determiners. would be the perfect timekiller in bus

Player A: Rocket jump
Player B: Air rocket

wat

yeah like a 0.1 percent chance that something crazy happens. cmon you fool clear your mind from random ESRness its a text-deathmatch....A TEXT-DEATHMATCH!

it's a .... TEXTMATCH

oh god :D

so this is what cypher does

He does both at the same time

This is what the world is coming to :(

Player A: 40% Lg
Player B: ragequit

Player A: 40 % lg.
Player B: 71 % lg.

I like the idea, it could help new players to start thinking about fights so that they could actually improve in the real game.
Thing is, in quake everyone has its own speed, and in the app everyone's speed would have to be the same. Or either have 3 speeds:
- Stopped (You'd always be the first one attacking vs a running guy, and 75% vs a walking one)
- Walk carefully (where you'd have like 75% chance of getting the first attack if the other guy was running and 50% if he was walking carefully as well)
- Running!

:DDDDDD

also inb4 Quake: The Trading Card Game

actually i like the idea :D

you just need proper comands like ins suggested

this is disturbing me on so many levels

I don't think it could ever work vs another person too many variables to make it work nicely it probably would have to be done against AI. Probably is a reason their is no final fantasy games with pvp. Because at its very core turn based is basically rock paper scissors and once some one knows all the counters its just boring and unstoppable.

my approach is to remove a lot. you certainly have to. you dont have more than 4 moving directions in most of the rooms in most of the maps.
then you have your weapon u want to carry.
and you have the way you move, silent or fast.

this is simple enough . i found a fellow who is willing to do some programming work.we will see what comes out

Its too easy to master unless you add random chance of failure which makes some people just angry and call it a luck game. If its against a person its luck if it happens vs AI its the god damn computer cheating me!!!!! I used to rage at final fantasy.

this is not meant to be a AI game. and you most likely need a certain chance of failure. its just tricky to do it right

I would be more interested in seeing that side scroll quake/mario hybrid come to life that could be a real mobile hit. with q3/ql sounds and model choices. Maybe fight Xaero at the end of each level.

Maybe fight Shub Niggurath at the end of the game!

Here you are:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4YVW_PM8tQ

http://vk.com/needforkill2d

Played this before, was fucking baller but nobody ever joined the servers :(

there's a qw version too. Never tried it.

cs from top view is kind of fun for 15 seconds.

PG best wepn in 2d ))

interesting

This would be awesome if it would happen. This way I could finally play some sort of Quake in bed!

While the idea is ok, I can't help but think it's squeezing "quake" into something it's not, thus it won't really be the same.

Why not have a quake 2d game? It just doesn't work.

leave the thought that it is quake. it wont. see it as a strategy game on maps you have in your head with weapons you know which to take when. this is a just a fun possibility to live the quake lifestyle in a bus , tube, uni, conference room w/e

this is a just a fun possibility to live the quake lifestyle in a tube

what

tube=subway

This is so intriguing, as I found myself thinking about a similar project in the past although I had to give the idea up almost instantly, lacking the technical skills, the software knowledge and, most importantly, the will to do it.

Here are some of the main thoughts I've gathered during the whole brain-storming process.
Please note, it's going to be a boring and long post, you might want to do yourself the favour of skipping it.

As I see it, there are two main philosophies to this project: either you try to chase an ultra-realistic approach (I'll abbreviate this into "UR") or you simply follow the "arcade"ish one ("ARC").

Please let me elaborate on these two definitions, by starting from the end: you should ask yourself, what is my main goal here?

Am I going to make this app/game as close to the real quake duel experience as possible (and perhaps turn it into a useful training tool)?
Or am I going to use quake as a sort of excuse to create a simple yet entertaining turn-based game?

Answering this question inevitably brings us to two consequences:
1)technical aspects:
2)different audience targets
3)costs

UR:
It's going to be much harder and expensive to produce: a text-game architecture alone won't do the trick since it can't cover every strategic aspect due to its implicit simplicity (I'll name some examples if you want, but it should be obvious).

This forces you to rely on grid-like interfaces like the one in the "Frozen Synapse" game just to name an example (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwIMbdijLaw), which will obviously require more coding.

It should also be based on http://www.esreality.com/post/2219012/interac...ualization and on the 2d map visualization shown here http://www.esreality.com/post/2298068/re-2d-demo-viewer/, which would tremendously add strategic depth, granted a sort of "fog of war"effect like the one in RTS games which should hide the enemy and the items out of reach/sight.

In an UR scenario, a vector-turn-based movement system would be highly advised: players could use their turns to decide their paths which would be divided into "checkpoints" with a "time required" panel each (taking a set strafejump speed progression as a basis, and having options to simply run/walk, which would promote linear paths to gain more speed) and, as soon as their "visual field of view"(a cone) or their "audio area"(a circle) spots an enemy, they would be granted the first turn of choice, allowing them to shoot for example without the enemy noticing, or having the first turn anyways.

Each turn should last 5-10 seconds in real time, and all actions cancelled upon spotting/being hit/hearing a sound (for example, taking an armour should trigger an area of effect sound), allowing you to reasses your plans.

The real problem arises when hitscan weapons are concerned; in an ARC scenario you could probably use an RPG-like system to allocate a certain amount of points into different "trees", such as "speed", "hitscan aim", "projectile aim", "dodging" and so forth, perhaps using a statistical system or dices, whilst I have no clue how it could be done in an UR scenario.

example of an UR:

Time: 3:05
RA respawn: 3:07
Route planning starting at 3:05

Player A standing at GL, all weapons, knows RA time (it's debatable wheter he should be able to see the item respawn timer on the map spot or not).
Player A planned the following route: stand still at GL for 2.0 seconds (3:05-3:07)---> RJ at RA (3:07-3:08 , -40hp) ----> from RA to SG (3:08-3:09)--->from SG to RL tunnel (3:09-3:10)

Player B planned the following route: from upper YA stairs to SG (3:05- 3:07)->from SG to RL (3:07-3:10)

At roughly 3:06 Player A hears Player B, get his actions cancelled, and the turn making starts over, with him having the first turn this time instead of both routes being done simultaneously.

As you can see this system allows a sort of realism (which could be augmented outrageously at the expense of a smoother gameplay) at the cost of some sacrifices you wouldn't have in an ARC scenario.

However, the main flaws would be having iD's support (maps, name,etc), a very heavy game which would be far from the original APP idea, and the costs/time of coding+testing.
Also, a horribly slow gameplay.
Also, a very small audience target.


In all truth I honestly can't even imagine a 1v1 text-based quake.
It would be either be too different or just plain simplicistic.

I guess your best would be a sort of mix between the 2d map visualization system, an RPG like talent points allocation system, and stealing some ideas from games like Advance Wars and so forth.

Or a sort of trivia, describing in-game situations and asking the players how they'd proceed, which could be an useful training tool but would lack replayability :

example:
t7
You got fragged at RG.
RA spawning in 1 second.
You respawn at MH RL.
MH respawning in 5 seconds.

{options: A:..... B:...... etc}

can you give a tl;dr version please?

i doubt you can come up with something interesting enough to be THAT LONG.

sure, i'll trim the last part






This is so intriguing, as I found myself thinking about a similar project in the past although I had to give the idea up almost instantly, lacking the technical skills, the software knowledge and, most importantly, the will to do it.

Here are some of the main thoughts I've gathered during the whole brain-storming process.
Please note, it's going to be a boring and long post, you might want to do yourself the favour of skipping it.

As I see it, there are two main philosophies to this project: either you try to chase an ultra-realistic approach (I'll abbreviate this into "UR") or you simply follow the "arcade"ish one ("ARC").

Please let me elaborate on these two definitions, by starting from the end: you should ask yourself, what is my main goal here?

Am I going to make this app/game as close to the real quake duel experience as possible (and perhaps turn it into a useful training tool)?
Or am I going to use quake as a sort of excuse to create a simple yet entertaining turn-based game?

Answering this question inevitably brings us to two consequences:
1)technical aspects:
2)different audience targets
3)costs

UR:
It's going to be much harder and expensive to produce: a text-game architecture alone won't do the trick since it can't cover every strategic aspect due to its implicit simplicity (I'll name some examples if you want, but it should be obvious).

This forces you to rely on grid-like interfaces like the one in the "Frozen Synapse" game just to name an example (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwIMbdijLaw), which will obviously require more coding.

It should also be based on http://www.esreality.com/post/2219012/interac...ualization and on the 2d map visualization shown here http://www.esreality.com/post/2298068/re-2d-demo-viewer/, which would tremendously add strategic depth, granted a sort of "fog of war"effect like the one in RTS games which should hide the enemy and the items out of reach/sight.

In an UR scenario, a vector-turn-based movement system would be highly advised: players could use their turns to decide their paths which would be divided into "checkpoints" with a "time required" panel each (taking a set strafejump speed progression as a basis, and having options to simply run/walk, which would promote linear paths to gain more speed) and, as soon as their "visual field of view"(a cone) or their "audio area"(a circle) spots an enemy, they would be granted the first turn of choice, allowing them to shoot for example without the enemy noticing, or having the first turn anyways.

Each turn should last 5-10 seconds in real time, and all actions cancelled upon spotting/being hit/hearing a sound (for example, taking an armour should trigger an area of effect sound), allowing you to reasses your plans.

The real problem arises when hitscan weapons are concerned; in an ARC scenario you could probably use an RPG-like system to allocate a certain amount of points into different "trees", such as "speed", "hitscan aim", "projectile aim", "dodging" and so forth, perhaps using a statistical system or dices, whilst I have no clue how it could be done in an UR scenario.

example of an UR:

Time: 3:05
RA respawn: 3:07
Route planning starting at 3:05

Player A standing at GL, all weapons, knows RA time (it's debatable wheter he should be able to see the item respawn timer on the map spot or not).
Player A planned the following route: stand still at GL for 2.0 seconds (3:05-3:07)---> RJ at RA (3:07-3:08 , -40hp) ----> from RA to SG (3:08-3:09)--->from SG to RL tunnel (3:09-3:10)

Player B planned the following route: from upper YA stairs to SG (3:05- 3:07)->from SG to RL (3:07-3:10)

At roughly 3:06 Player A hears Player B, get his actions cancelled, and the turn making starts over, with him having the first turn this time instead of both routes being done simultaneously.

As you can see this system allows a sort of realism (which could be augmented outrageously at the expense of a smoother gameplay) at the cost of some sacrifices you wouldn't have in an ARC scenario.

However, the main flaws would be having iD's support (maps, name,etc), a very heavy game which would be far from the original APP idea, and the costs/time of coding+testing.
Also, a horribly slow gameplay.
Also, a very small audience target.


In all truth I honestly can't even imagine a 1v1 text-based quake.
It would be either be too different or just plain simplicistic.

I guess your best would be a sort of mix between the 2d map visualization system, an RPG like talent points allocation system, and stealing some ideas from games like Advance Wars and so forth.

Or a sort of trivia, describing in-game situations and asking the players how they'd proceed, which could be an useful training tool but would lack replayability :

example:
t7
You got fragged at RG.
RA spawning in 1 second.
You respawn at MH RL.
MH respawning in 5 seconds.

The potato is a starchy, tuberous crop from the perennial Solanum tuberosum of the Solanaceae family (also known as the nightshades). The word may refer to the plant itself as well as the edible tuber. In the region of the Andes, there are some other closely related cultivated potato species. Potatoes were introduced outside the Andes region four centuries ago, and have become an integral part of much of the world's cuisine. It is the world's fourth-largest food crop, following rice, wheat and maize.[1] Long-term storage of potatoes requires specialised care in cold warehouses.[2]

Wild potato species occur throughout the Americas, from the United States to southern Chile.[3] The potato was originally believed to have been domesticated independently in multiple locations,[4] but later genetic testing of the wide variety of cultivars and wild species proved a single origin for potatoes in the area of present-day southern Peru and extreme northwestern Bolivia (from a species in the Solanum brevicaule complex), where they were domesticated 7,000–10,000 years ago.[5][6][7] Following centuries of selective breeding, there are now over a thousand different types of potatoes.[6] Of these subspecies, a variety that at one point grew in the Chiloé Archipelago (the potato's south-central Chilean sub-center of origin) left its germplasm on over 99% of the cultivated potatoes worldwide.[8][9]

The annual diet of an average global citizen in the first decade of the 21st century included about 33 kg (73 lb) of potato.[1] However, the local importance of potato is extremely variable and rapidly changing. It remains an essential crop in Europe (especially eastern and central Europe), where per capita production is still the highest in the world, but the most rapid expansion over the past few decades has occurred in southern and eastern Asia. China is now the world's largest potato-producing country, and nearly a third of the world's potatoes are harvested in China and India.[10]

The English word potato comes from Spanish patata (the name used in Spain). The Spanish Royal Academy says the Spanish word is a compound of the Taino batata (sweet potato) and the Quechua papa (potato).[11] The name potato originally referred to a type of sweet potato rather than the other way around, although there is actually no close relationship between the two plants. The English confused the two plants one for the other. In many of the chronicles detailing agriculture and plants, no distinction is made between the two.[12] The 16th-century English herbalist John Gerard used the terms "bastard potatoes" and "Virginia potatoes" for this species, and referred to sweet potatoes as "common potatoes".[13] Potatoes are occasionally referred to as "Irish potatoes" or "white potatoes" in the United States, to distinguish them from sweet potatoes.[13]

The name spud for a small potato comes from the digging of soil (or a hole) prior to the planting of potatoes. The word has an unknown origin and was originally (c. 1440) used as a term for a short knife or dagger, probably related to Dutch spyd and/or the Latin "spad-" root meaning "sword"; cf. Spanish "espada", English "spade" and "spadroon". The word spud traces back to the 16th century. It subsequently transferred over to a variety of digging tools. Around 1845 it transferred over to the tuber itself.[14] The origin of "spud" has erroneously been attributed to a 19th century activist group dedicated to keeping the potato out of Britain, calling itself The Society for the Prevention of an Unwholesome Diet.[14] It was Mario Pei's 1949 The Story of Language that can be blamed for the false origin. Pei writes, "the potato, for its part, was in disrepute some centuries ago. Some Englishmen who did not fancy potatoes formed a Society for the Prevention of Unwholesome Diet. The initials of the main words in this title gave rise to spud." Like most other pre-20th century acronymic origins, this one is false.[14]

Potato plants are herbaceous perennials that grow about 60 cm (24 in) high, depending on variety, the culms dying back after flowering. They bear white, pink, red, blue, or purple flowers with yellow stamens. In general, the tubers of varieties with white flowers have white skins, while those of varieties with colored flowers tend to have pinkish skins.[15] Potatoes are cross-pollinated mostly by insects, including bumblebees, which carry pollen from other potato plants, but a substantial amount of self-fertilizing occurs as well. Tubers form in response to decreasing day length, although this tendency has been minimized in commercial varieties.[16]
Potato plants

After potato plants flower, some varieties produce small green fruits that resemble green cherry tomatoes, each containing up to 300 true seeds. Potato fruit contains large amounts of the toxic alkaloid solanine and is therefore unsuitable for consumption. All new potato varieties are grown from seeds, also called "true seed" or "botanical seed" to distinguish it from seed tubers. By finely chopping the fruit and soaking it in water, the seeds separate from the flesh by sinking to the bottom after about a day (the remnants of the fruit float). Any potato variety can also be propagated vegetatively by planting tubers, pieces of tubers, cut to include at least one or two eyes, or also by cuttings, a practice used in greenhouses for the production of healthy seed tubers. Some commercial potato varieties do not produce seeds at all (they bear imperfect flowers) and are propagated only from tuber pieces. Confusingly, these tubers or tuber pieces are called "seed potatoes".

There are about five thousand potato varieties worldwide. Three thousand of them are found in the Andes alone, mainly in Peru, Bolivia, Ecuador, Chile, and Colombia. They belong to eight or nine species, depending on the taxonomic school. Apart from the five thousand cultivated varieties, there are about 200 wild species and subspecies, many of which can be cross-bred with cultivated varieties, which has been done repeatedly to transfer resistances to certain pests and diseases from the gene pool of wild species to the gene pool of cultivated potato species. Genetically modified varieties have met public resistance in the United States and in the European Union.[17][18]

The major species grown worldwide is Solanum tuberosum (a tetraploid with 48 chromosomes), and modern varieties of this species are the most widely cultivated. There are also four diploid species (with 24 chromosomes): S. stenotomum, S. phureja, S. goniocalyx, and S. ajanhuiri. There are two triploid species (with 36 chromosomes): S. chaucha and S. juzepczukii. There is one pentaploid cultivated species (with 60 chromosomes): S. curtilobum. There are two major subspecies of Solanum tuberosum: andigena, or Andean; and tuberosum, or Chilean.[19] The Andean potato is adapted to the short-day conditions prevalent in the mountainous equatorial and tropical regions where it originated. The Chilean potato, native to the Chiloé Archipelago, is adapted to the long-day conditions prevalent in the higher latitude region of southern Chile.[20]

The International Potato Center, based in Lima, Peru, holds an ISO-accredited collection of potato germplasm.[21] The international Potato Genome Sequencing Consortium announced in 2009 that they had achieved a draft sequence of the potato genome.[22] The potato genome contains 12 chromosomes and 860 million base pairs making it a medium-sized plant genome.[23] More than 99 percent of all current varieties of potatoes currently grown are direct descendants of a subspecies that once grew in the lowlands of south-central Chile.[24] Nonetheless, genetic testing of the wide variety of cultivars and wild species affirms that all potato subspecies derive from a single origin in the area of present-day southern Peru and extreme northwestern Bolivia (from a species in the Solanum brevicaule complex).[5][6][7]

Most modern potatoes grown in North America arrived through European settlement and not independently from the South American sources. However, at least one wild potato species, Solanum fendleri, is found as far north as Texas and used in breeding for resistance to a nematode species that attacks cultivated potatoes. A secondary center of genetic variability of the potato is Mexico, where important wild species that have been used extensively in modern breeding are found, such as the hexaploid Solanum demissum, as a source of resistance to the devastating late blight disease.[25] Another relative native to this region, Solanum bulbocastanum, has been used to genetically engineer the potato to resist potato blight.[26]

Potatoes yield abundantly with little effort, and adapt readily to diverse climates as long as the climate is cool and moist enough for the plants to gather sufficient water from the soil to form the starchy tubers. Potatoes do not keep very well in storage and are vulnerable to molds that feed on the stored tubers, quickly turning them rotten. By contrast, grain can be stored for several years without much risk of rotting.[27]

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potat veri tasti)))

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my approach is very different.
let the timer go you dont need it. in order to make it as quake like as possible u got to remove the quake like determiners. make it round based, item spawns->round based, fights->roundbased
cut down the ineffable variety of decisions to the very basic ones.
cut down everyhting to the very essential. your fantasy will play the ZTN game and your mind will play the chess. this is nothing but very plain quake strategy combined with some sweeteners

could you please make an example of a round fight?
i like the idea, it sounds hard to balance tho

ok hmm i really havent thought about details yet. lets try:

every player 3 options:
-weapon you carry at the moment
-direction you take (drop down, left entrance, stairs...)
-pick up the fight or escape


-players encounter-
-->both chose fight

randomizer choses who got the first shot (u have the option to change weapon aswell but will cost u something)

player 1 shoots - randomizer calculates: position , weapon-position relation, luck, plus 0.1 percent chance of something crazy ;)

player 2 gets damaged (or not) , now its his turn.


if one player choses escape different determiners willplay a role but like i said thats just a very basic concept nothing thought-through

so how do you know the opponent's position?

wanna play random ztn on your cellphone?

well therewill be only a couple of positions. whe u chose stairs u have the position stairs. when u chose left entrance you are simply left entrance.cutting it down to simple variables is the key. next step giving the positions certain vlaues. ZTN balcony > ZTN railgun

stop discussing it u bitches, i'm gonna code it

right.

will do, in my free time :D

you dont always deserve plusses but when you do its for beeing useful

GPL sources plz :o

i have once dreamed that the projection of a cosine over a parabola would lead to the derivation of the fresnel problem which could be integrated on that curved space...

a smart men`s dream