Maybe you're just giving it too much importance? Looks like one of those things that the more we try to avoid, the more we make it innevitable. Focusing on your breath might help, if it keeps you from thinking about your aim.

try playing without lg and rail and then say that again :( and it doesn't make a difference if I think about my aim or not.. it's something that whenever my xhair is spot on, something pulls it away!

I'm not saying that it's easy to do it, just suggesting that it may be your mind playing tricks on you. :)

how to trick my mind is the question? :/ I've tried to be super calm and relaxed with smooth mousemovements too, but that doesn't make much difference, I just miss differently :<

You don't need to trick your mind. Just don't put so much energy on the idea that you're not hitting your shots.

It's obvious that you consider that "problem" something that limits your game and as long as you cling to that thought, it will keep popping up again and again.

The best way to get an idea out of the mind is to replace it with another (that's why so many meditation techniques focus on the breath). So, you should adapt your game when you're not hitting consistent shots, and focus on other aspects until your aim comes back. :)

yeah you're probably right, hmmmm.. though, when my no-aim appears, it doesn't matter if I think about it or not, just after a while I usually realize hey it's this phenomenon again :(

See? You're calling it a "phenomenon" and that is a sort of an overreaction that can only aggravate the issue. Right? :)

Plus, you can't realize something without having it present in your mind.

It's a phenomenon because I've never seen it to happen to anybody else really

could timenudge -20 affect negatively? no?

don't use timenudge if your ping is under 70

removed it!

use it for plasma

does it work having different timenudge on different weapons?

yea, just put cl_timenudge -20 on your plasma bind in your config, and cl_timenudge 0 on all the other weapons.

Why? All time nudge does is make the model smooth and warpy as hell. Hate it.

Why? All time nudge does is make the model smooth and warpy as hell. Hate it.

i think you just warped with your comment

Nudge makes the model look warpy and unsmooth, it is a fact.

I still suck at aiming but those things helped at least me recently

- models start jittering for me at around tn -8 to -12, wouldn't go much lower

- don't warm up in pub clan arena, don't warm up vs baddies, don't warm up more than 10 minutes / 1 pickup / 1 CA game

- go dueling immediatly, I don't really understand tox in that regard warming up for hours on a duel server :D

- unless you're a talented aimer (ins) don't switch around settings all the time, just play

- about the elo thing, I'm playing way too +forward vs lower elo players, so I expect a loss here and there, don't play 100% srs unless your opponent is doing so, it's not about elo, but about tournament results anyway (or at least I hope so...)

- thx for timenudge tip
- yeah takes too much time to warmup thoroughly, sometimes i cba warming up at all :p
- warming up is actually the practice for tox
- been playing like a madman but i don't seem to get much better, quite the other way around :((
- yea i don't care about elo that's just easy way of telling people how good/bad I am

- been playing like a madman but i don't seem to get much better, quite the other way around :((

that's not really what I meant

if it's like what you described and you enjoy quake too much to just do smth else, venture into other game modes that you can enjoy more than duel where almost every rail counts

I loved domination! And dislike TDM :< CA is gay too. But yeh you got a point.

why dislike tdm faggort?

One of the reasons I quit ET was it being a teamgame, I enjoy 1o1 more!

Never tried playing tdm though :*

You might find out that TDM's playstyle is the perfect magic formula for getting your aim on :D

Try it.

I would say that this is a great solution for "basic aiming/pure aim" practice. When in a duel it's to often dodging involved, less clean rails so to say. In Tdm it's more about point an click than dodge-and-wait-for-the-right-moment.

about timenudge:

depends on internetzzzz, i play with -20

why thanks <3

well you're working hard to make everyone think that!

sif i ever gave a shit about what ppl think :(

all shaft no braen

I used to aim quite well and consistently but now I have days were my aim is completly off. The thing is when it happens I have no feeling in my mousehand whatsoever. After watching some of my aim days off demos I realized that even my movement looks clumpy as shit. I have no idea why it changed but I'll try to switch to a heavier mouse (using abyssus atm) because I tend to shake a lot with my hand (more than I used to)

2) Second issue is, I'm super inconsistent (or warmup dependant, take it as you like). My skill can easily go +-400-500 elo depending how much I've played. One week off and straight to duel without warmup I'm 1600 elo, everyday 2-3hrs for a month and warmup few hours before duel, I'm 2100 elo. And everyday no matter how much I've played I have to warmup like 60-90 minutes to get even near my average level of play (1800-1900 elo -> 2000 elo). I used to play a game called ET and had the same thing, in order to be on a satisfying level I had to play many hours every day and warmup for hours every day before a match. One day off and you needed 1,5x the warmup :(

I don't need that much to warmup. I can play pretty decently after a couple of duels. Don't know whether it is a head thingy or just different from person to person. What I noticed is that I usually play better when I face stronger opponents. I beat so many ~2k players or had close matches vs them and still I sometimes lose to people were I just think fml afterwards :D. Sometimes I just play and Im so in the game that I play/aim well without thinking much. I just do and that's the best thing for me. When I start to think about the game or even question stuff I tend to fuck up so much. So to some up my blabla I would try to get as much focus and just don't play when you don't feel like it.

Btw. I'm curious how pro cope with aim off days.

my aim used to be very shaky too, and it's still a bit. I also had cold hands but gladly not anymore, I could go and watch my demos though, review how horrible it actually is! THx. Maybe I'm concentrating too much but I don't think so :/ And yeah atleast when I start to think what I do or how I dodge I instantly screw up..

I've lost track of what you say somewhere in the middle of the first part, but lucky for you, I have some nice and easy tips.

If you really miss everything, the whole thing looks absurd:

1. quit right there and come back tomorrow
2. DO NOT start to fiddle around with your conf and mouse settings if you had them for a couple of moths and they were good in general, they have nothing to do with that
3. You cant feel how tired and frustrated you are, you are too busy concentraiting on that shit
4. it is always good to play after fucking, but wanking does not do the trick (for me atleast)

1. tried everything, it might be better tomorrow but then the day after tomorrow it's horrible again + the days off are horrible for me too
2. I haven't fiddled with it too much, I've had certain setups for months and then changed once I've adjusted into it. I've tested different settings for like 12 months already, not changing things everyday!

1. Contrary to popular opinion, you dont need aim in quake... there are so many thing you can rely on when your aim is totally off... positioning, pacman mode, clever gameplay... Quake is not SM, lol!

2. one world: spam

3. go CA and play rg only for 20 minutes, taking every single angle there is...

I think, on my level anyway, combat skills are the most important thing and I've concluded if you hit 10prc hitscan, 10 min duel isn't enough to cope with that :L Spam slowplay yea but once you have the control, stringing the frags together is ever so difficult with no rail or lg :d Probably better to CA-warmup before yup true.

depends if you have to chase the score, or not...

if the game is still 0-0, and you have control, then fuck it, be like cooller... your enemy will come to you faster or later...

if you're behind, then well... good trap, string of spawn frags...



prolly depends on map aswell... on tox you can make lots of frags with fucking pummel, if you are in control that is :-)...

usually it's me being many frags down when I expect to hit something.. And by the time I learn I'm not hitting, it's only 4-5mins left and basically no rg and lg for me :[

obviously you can win, but how much easier it would be with an average aim and all weapons!

hahaha, it would be easier, but easy is not quake way! 20 frag comebacks with pg only... real hc quake skill! :-)

that's what i'll do! >:(

I'm sure it can vary greatly from person to person, but from personal experience these help me at least, either separately or together:

- Finishing things on your to-do list, completing any pending business matters, or solving any irl problems leaves your mind pretty much free of distractions both conciously and subconciously ingame. Doesn't help your aim much but it does help your decision making and therefore positioning, and consequentially, easier shots are available. I guess.

- Not playing for 1-2-3-4 days means you come back fresh, bloodthirsty and open-minded. How does this increase aim? I don't know... it just does.

- just warm-up for 3 hours..

the first one is kinda interesting, but can't think of anything that stresses me out really.. and it's been like this for a long time already :p I've had breaks too, anything from a day to 3 months and the longer the break the longer it takes to get back in decent shape :/

good tips potat

All people are different, some learn muscle memory faster than others, but one thing is proven, practice increase performance.

but.. even my mom with no practice could hit those rails.. :l

Upload a demo and i can give you feedback, im no pro but i consider myself an aim whore.

One thing i learned by watching my own demos(in slow motion) was that:
When in a tense situation, i was so focused on dodging so when i took the rail shoot i changed direction at the same second i shot(some weird habit) which made all my rails go to the right.

can't provide you a demo right now, maybe later. But I'll watch the demos myself and examine =) That dodging thing might be one, but I miss much shots even if I don't dodge like that. Also I think I aim with my mouse a lot, quite crap with strafeaiming and that's one weakness but doesn't explain it all.

Got to find what works for you, sounds like you overthink it perhaps.

I've given it time already, I've thought it would go away with just playing but doesn't look that good atm. One thing is that I just wouldn't have the talent to become a good aimer, but don't wanna go into that just yet. 8( Maybe I overthink, let's hope so.

Then what you expect us to say?
Stop playing then, if you suck so much.

what you've said is more than I expected :P and I don't suck all the time, like 1-5/100 matches I do!

rail is a random spam gun. at least with my play style.
My rail goes from 7-90%, even when i'm on with all other guns.
I have noticed that +b campy players, are more likely to hit high rail numbers. They have usually slower movement and calmer hand control.

The shaft is another story, if you have a high-skill shaft its rather easy to be consistent, no matter the play style. You can always do miner adjustments during a lg-fight.
Rail is by default not possible to do adjustments with during the fight.

I'm not worried about the 'normal' rail misses, I miss the easiest rails there is many times in a row :/ I guess lg is mainly dependant on the warmup, when I've played a lot I can do fine and when I haven't I can't.

Smoke some weed, this way you will enter the quake-matrix cyper style :]

edit:+h

there are some pills that make you go slowmo, too!

Herbs>pills.. keep it natural bro! :]

Right on, word bro, keep it natural :D

blaze it in a chalice or a spliff

This is a great reason to work on the mental game and not worry about the aim portion. Granted I know it can be extremely frustrating to lose fights that you shouldn't because your aim fails you or to miss very easy shots but if you can control yourself and remain patient and confident in yourself then you will increase in skill exponentially.

Aim is important but not nearly as important as the mental game. Rapha and Cypher are prime examples. Rapha has never been known for his aim (it certainly isn't bad by any means) but I've seen him win tournament games with <20% rail acc. If you work on your positioning and map control, shots become easier and you don't have to hit as much if you're 200/200 and your opponent is only 100/100.

I mention Cypher because if you've ever watched any of his tournament games where his aim is way off you'll notice he changes his game completely. Hes a lot more patient and cautious and generally plays much smarter because he doesn't have his aim to let him get away with poor decisions. He has still won games where his aim was not as good as it usually is.

Good aim is not essential to winning a game but it certainly helps you get out off poor situations and will let you make up for mistakes you've made in the game.


tl;dr work on your mental game and win without aim!

A fun challenge is to try to win ZTN without using railgun or without shooting more than 5 shots :P I used to do this against mid level players and it helped with learning to set up traps.

First of all, I'm composed all the way and never lose my temper, it's not that.. And I've worked on the mental part already that should be just fine :P Secondly, you can't compare me with rapha or cypher, their combat skills are superb even if they can't hit with hitscan (they never really miss the easy ones though, atleast multiple times in a row >_>). Their dodging and weapon selection and so on saves them from a lot of trouble and I don't really have them like they do.

I could work on to adapt quicker, but nobody's aim lets them down like mine does, not cypher or rapha or actually I haven't seen anybody else from like 1800 elo and better. I could develop the perfect gamestyle for a no-aimer but that guy could never be a winner because you really need awesome combat skills to be a winner (the best). And I think you can't and shouldn't build up your game on an assumption that you hit 10% rail and 10% lg. Then the day I hit normal 40% and 30% I suck because I've learned to play wrong. Don't know if I managed to explain this but you can't and shouldn't learn to cope with aim as bad as mine gets :<

I mean no offense, but your attitude isn't the best for this. I don't see why you think that combat skills are based on aim or dodging is based on aim :P
You do not need good aim to have good combat skills or good aim to be good at dodging. And trust me, I've seen games where Cypher and Rapha do not hit a damn thing but they still manage to win the map because they played very smart.

You are still underestimating the mental game (and I don't mean just remaining calm, I mean proper positioning and decision making). Good aim isn't what gives guys like evil/pavel/baksteen/spartie etc. their ability to rival the guys in the top4...they also have good decision making!

If your positioning is very good and your control is good and your decisions are made well, you don't need very good aim to win. You don't need to hit more than 25% rail or 25% lg! Also, I noticed you haven't mentioned rockets...I assume those are still ok? Don't underestimate those either :P

Practice dm13 for days and watch demos of Cooller/Rapha/Cypher on dm13. All distinct styles (on dm13) that don't rely on aim or combat skills.


EDIT: Think about when you play a mid-low skill player but they happen to have REALLY good aim with rail/lg. Do you think you're going to lose because of that fact? No. You still know you're going to win, you just know you will take less direct fights against them...

Combat skills are combination of aim and dodging basically (+ weapon selection, map knowledge) and rapha/cypher never lack more than one of those, haven't seen them hitting nothing AND dodging nothing.

I think my decision making and map knowledge is good (on the maps I know anyway), and I'm talking about me having no aim, not about bad aim =p There's a huge difference between 25% rail and 0% rail, same goes for 25% lg and 10% lg. My projectiles are okayish even when my hitscan is totally off yeah and I can switch control and control the map just fine, but stringing the frags together without rail is tough if opponent is confident with his rail. In t7 for example.

I'm pretty good in dm13 without lg but that's because it needs the less aim of all maps :d

P.S. Should've probably included a demo of me hitting nothing so you'd maybe understand me better :( It's not hitting badly, it's hitting nothing!

yeah and playing mid-skilled players is ok because you can cope with not hitting much at all, but on the toplevel of ql (not saying I'm there) you need to have good combatskills and that's a fact, there's nobody out there who doesn't have a good aim and does well :p

Gotta add for the mental thing.. you're right on that one you could always do better, I guess. But one thing is, when you start missing everything you start thinking what now, what's wrong and what should I do now and that takes a lot of brain capacity when you have to think every strategy many times over, does it require hitting rails, do I dare to try that and so on. You can't go with the thing you've learned that work, those don't work anymore if you don't hit a single shot, only the positional and spammy stuff might work!

idc about accuracy or improving (who does anyway). I want to know tips on how to not completely suck without warming up or requiring less warm up time so I can enjoy my playing time more. I hit like 50% more (not 100) after a couple of hours so it's like I don't have the "talent".

maybe we just lack the talent, what can you do when you're not capable!

For start stop thinking that you are not capable! Everyone is!

Have fun lying to yourself.

chaoz is right...

talent is just a multiplier of how quick you will improve... with decent praccs and willpopwer you are able to do anything you want

I disagree. To a certain level, like top10 in ql duel everyone is capable but not everybody can be Cypher or rapha =)

I disagree. To a certain level, like top10 in ql duel everyone is capable but not everybody can be Cypher or rapha =)

I disagree to disagree, vo0 lost to fatal1ty in Pk although vo0 had the talent and fats did not.
Fatal1ty have a winner mentality, sounds like you give up from what i've read in comments.

dunno about PK voo or fat, but I still disagree.

vo0 dominated everything, and was the better player, but somehow fatal1ty managed to win against him.

after playing for long time you get into the "zone"... your brain turns off and you start to act like a robot... but after a while you will get totally wasted, and wont hit shit...

its not matter of talent, nor proper warmup...

I've been playing fps' since 1998-1999, with hiatus, not caring about my "skill" since lots of years ago and all the excuses in the world, but I'm still talentless on that regard. Cooller "suffers" from the same as well.

I do get it's obvious warming up matters a lot for everyone, but for me (and cooller and maza) not warming up = 500elo difference and getting it back takes hours. In mine and in maza's case it could be explained with that we don't have an old q3 background though.

And what you described is being on the zone, which is obviously a rare thing and is the best time for playing. I want to get that more often and most importantly enjoying the game the minute I start playing.
Now it's like I join a server and "omfg these ca noobs are killing me", give it 3 maps and I'm playing with my feet, 5 and blindfolded it is. I've been having this "problem" since ever so what I do (since about lets say 2005) is not caring at the beginning, knowing that I will not enjoy playing for the first half an hour (that's how much I suck) and that's bullcrap. There must be a mentality change to be cypher or killsen on the first game in the morning, or it is that I just don't have the aiming talent.

From what does Cooller suffer as well as you? From the fact he has to warmup many hours? Share your insight info pls...

he has said that many times. Match in the morning = 10 minutes of excuses.

Ah, okay, so the first game he plays, he loses, because he isn't warmed up, and he than makes up excuses for having lost the game? Hehe, didn't know that about him...

well, there is a simple trick. just watch some strenx video footage and look at hist pointer finger when he lg. he really push the mouse with the first finger down under hard pressure and then he moves his finger and track him + adjust his movement to his aim at the same time in game (left/right strafe). it helped me a lot and makes gaming more fun to me

nice advice!

Hmmm. Well one thing is, I aim more with my arm than my wrist, I suppose. Maybe I could try different mousegrips/aim with my wrist more or the thing you pointed out from strenx.

and well, i had the problem that my hand hurts when i hold the mouse. when u do this some minutes u get real pain (by grabbing really tight the mouse).


so with the teqnique ive described, u dont grab the mouse all the time. in aiming situation i dont grab the mouse - only slightly. i just press mouse1 button down hard, not too hard and aim with my first finger (for lg!). and look, when u move the mouse straight up slightly and at the same time right/left also with mouse u can do really little movement with mouse and u get no cramps. (try to lay down the hand on mouse (dont grab it with thumb and fingers) and slithly move ur forearm up the mousepad.
when ur wirst is really relaxed the mouse will automatically move right/left if u want.

gonna try that one out

first world problems, right?! :D

everybody has them! :(

You probably shouldn't play when you hit 10% lg or rail...
I usually hit low acc when tired/didn't sleep much, but I can't imagine actually hitting that low, and I don't know how can someone miss 26 rails in a row, and this is coming from a player with 34% overall railgun acc...

As for warmup, I only need it if I had a bigger break, say couple of days. If I play everyday I can just jump into a game first time morning and hit my average stats immediately.

wish I was you with the warmup thing! But yea I don't like playing with 10acc hitscans but it happens relatively often so I wouldn't play much at all then :/ Wish I could find that demo of those 26 rails missed that was quite something

wow, you scrubs gave him no actual tips huh?

1) 120hz monitor, no more, no less. Also very low input delay.

2)1000hz mouserate STEADY, or lower it to 500hz steady, if it is fucking going random rates, then the shit will always feel *off* and not smooth and easy to track

3) good mousepad with no worn spots / good mouse with good mousefeet (consistency, you faggots) Also fix your mousecord so it won't drag down and bother your mouse feeling, it must be a free feeling. Use tape/bungie or whatever

4) NEVER force shots with the wrong gun at the wrong time. Railing up close? Super hard air rocket? Air grenade? Far shotgun? Retarded flick lg? No. FUCK NO. Break those habits. Always try to use the gun that is proper for that situation. Try to do the most damage you can while taking none, which means switching weapons a fuckton and dodging more.
After you do this, you will automatically start aiming better and learning what is possible for _you_ to hit (accuracy wise) and then gradually as you start being consistent, then you can try all the crazy shit I mentioned above, because you have learned exactly what you are capable of hitting and what kind of movement with the mouse is needed to pull that shit off.

5) Never check accuracy. I don't fucking check accuracy anymore because when I do, i'd be railing 70 and then go OH FUCK NICE!!! Then miss like 10 in a row after trying to keep my accuracy high and pick shots instead of playing normal and hitting what I should be aiming at instead.

6)Don't rely on aim, put everything into your game plan for duel. K1llsen is relying on aim. Tox is relying on aim. Strenx used to rely solely on aim. These guys don't do shit in duel, and they aim fucking amazingly.

Try to be Rapha when playing duel, spam shots, +back, timing items, backup plans. FUCK AIM; don't even think about out-aiming niggas, just out play them.

ez

I have 120hz screen pretty stable 125fps, wmo with 500hz, everglide titan which havent worn out really at all :L Good tips generally, but I try using the optimal gun and I don't often check accuracies midgame either (that's what I should stop doing completely though!) And I'm not aimdependant either imo :( but everybody is dependant on hitting the easiest shots which I sometimes screw up completely, and that's the thing I'm worried about! I have the feeling I'm one of a kind that nobody else misses those like I do.

And like I said it's not impossible to get control and be rapha but stringing the frags together is, when you don't hit a thing :F NOT EZ

you got parkinsons? which windows are you on? windows 7, you need to disable aero and put some commands in your cfg (like stermy has, cg_filter_angles 0.03 / m_filter 1)

Maybe you just aren't a quake person? pickup starcraft brah?

no parkinsons that I know of, win7 and I AM QUAKEPERSON >:( what does those cvars do? :o

http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&...pid1980278

woouu thx! gonna try that out aswell :)

"don't even think about out-aiming niggas, just out play them."

Words to live by.

You can play like Jesus but if you lose exchange with 190/190 vs 120/50, nothing can help you :). You can have perfect map control, but it means nothing if you can't score your opponent in silliest moments. That's why players with solid LG acc and use % are so good in duel.

Last time I checked Tox dominated an entire game (Q4) and K1llsen managed to beat 11-1 to Cooller on LAN.

q4 is all aim.

k1llsen has moments where he is the best aimer there is and also moments where he sucks ass. He's random as fuck. Rather be consistently good than only good if my aim is the best ever.

i always had a similar problem like you described, some games I would hit very well (even everything sometimes), and the next game it would go down all the sudden.

Although this was more rare in my case, I would have off days where no matter how much I played i would be stuck at average aim even after several hours of play! I was the same as you are in that regard btw (need for long warmup period to perform ok)

these last years were a real eye opener for me though, the main "advantage" I had was that I now played with 80-100 ping (just got it down to 70 in the last 2 months finally). Now ypu have to imagine what this does to a player after playing with low to normal ping for 10 years (qw-q2-q3 etc)

I started evaluating alot of aspects of my game to get the MAX performance out of my situation, Obviously I would never perform like I had 30 ping but I could find ways to deal with situations. Playing defensive was the main change ofc (I always was an aggressive, generally dumb player really)

tl;dr version. major change in conditions required major changes.

here is what I did aside from changing my game style (some might be relevant to your problem)

1- I lowered my sens and added accel (to get rid of major correction problems when I had a off day mainly, more consistent aim)

2- I introduced stuff like wait railing and strafe lg to my style and tried to balance it with flicks and corrections (mainly because of ping) I assume you know what those terms are btw. even though your dodge suffers from strafe lg especially it completely negates any off day aim. wait railing obv means higher accuracy but less damage output and missed opportunities but in the end its better to hit 1 rail instead of missing 2.

3- later I stopped worrying about aim as much as I could which the ppl above suggest. You cannot do it 100% ofc but it sure helps alot mid combat if you are not thinking "I must not miss this rail but I have been missing all game argh", simple example but you know what I mean

4- my last "find" was a very basic one, and I think we neglect this alot because we tend to tinker with cfg etc alot to fix our problems. Instead of doing that when I felt my aim was suffering during one day I decided to check how I was holding the mouse. I noticed that for some reason I had reverted completely to palm grip, which is fine in some situations for me but not so in others, and I remember I used my mouse with alot more claw grip style in the past years, so I went back to it and all the sudden I was ALOT more comfortable in the situations where I felt sluggish aimwise and movement wise, now I am forcing myself to incorpate a mouse holding style that uses both and alot of my aim problems are fixed, heck I even feel like I improved my again after all these years.

so tl;dr version of the above would be; aside from style you do have to stop worrying abit about aim and I would recommend to balance out guaranteed aiming styles with flick aim styles so that you have a more consistent playing experience. And also try checking out how your mouse control fares in specific game situations and how you are holding the mouse in those, perhaps you have problems in that department in some days who knows.

In short, thanks, there were a lot of nice ideas. I should probably adjust my aiming style and concentrate to strafeaiming + try claw grip or something different from my palmgrip =) THX!

yea try to balance both grip and aim style, it should even out alot of the differences between an off day and an on day.

This shit's hard man, try playing some AWP on cs 1.6 you'll definitely improve on those rail entry shots.

no cs for me but maybe some point and shoot flash game or something could do good D: or instagib..

insta does not improve rail, it improves insta. Played some iFT, but accuracy didn't transcend to rail shots, as my brain somehow new it was still MORE important to hit it, because i could not as easily dodge rocket or LG dmg wise.

yeah that's why I've tried to play duel and only duel, it's the best practice there is for a duel player :)

As for LG i think it's more about tracking + dodging skills.

Add Aeol to your friends list on QL, I'll teach you some things which have helped a lot of quakers.

EDIT: Better just to show you instead of typing it.

Did

mby u simply change how you hold your mose without realizing it?

A nice idea, I might set up a camera and take a video of me playing >_>

basically I had what he is getting at, its very nice to be able to adjust your grip depending on the situation instead of holding it random every day because you dont think about it.

Always take your time while aiming and try to hit the model in the center (for practise).

If even then your aim fails you... try to aim based upon the map geometry rather than your opponent for a while. (don't try to excell in this type of aiming though it's just a good way to get back into the right feeling). Pick places on the wall / floor where you know he'll be at at some time, and just press fire.

I'm pretty calm infight I believe :/ The geometry thing is pretty much only thing I can do when I can't hit shit, but yeah good reminder!

being calm and taking your time to aim are 2 different things though.
1) you don't have to be calm in order to take time to aim (aka you can use very erratic mouse movement if you want)
2) being calm doesn't mean that you think about where you want to aim / when you want to fire.

(btw it's not any critisism as I've never seen you play... just pointing stuff out)

yea everything is welcome, but I think I'm calm and take my time to aim too =)

well as long as you're thinking about why you aim where (and when you press fire) you should be able to find answers to your problem eventually.
Could happen at the strangest of places at the weirdest of times hehe... I remember that I was watching Kenshin (awesome anime) when I suddenly realized that it was impossible to win games without taking risk and I could suddenly see why cooller was so good at dodging as well as see why I always lost every lg battle there was.

Most of my aim got decent when I realized that you have to hit a box which is moving around rather than the nmy model. Which is only a slight difference in thinking but hey my lg went up by like 5% and I suddenly hit rails.
I think I used to be too focussed on hitting the model (even within animations I was trying to hit the center of the model.... and that's really bad to do hehehe.)

haha yea :8) maybe I'll figure this out or it doesn't appear anymore once I prac a bit more!

How do you hold your mouse? Claw- or palmgrip?
I'd recommend palmgrip if you have unstable shaky aim even while missing the easiest rails or losing shaftfights.

Palmgrip all my life =) But indeed in lg fights I sometimes would hit much better if I didn't touch the mouse and just strafed

yes but i think Quake live's LG is more about flick shots since you can turn off lightning bend.

Shit, I knew I was forgetting something! When you're about to go into a LG fight, put your hand 5cm to the right of your normal position, then try. This helps me no end, for some reason.

O_O I wonder if some things like that could actually make a difference

Did you try it?

nope havent played yet, so much to try, so much ideas from u gys!

hey when you win quakecon next year you best be giving us niggas some credit

plussed you in advance

Map knowledge & positioning plays a big role on improving aim. I mean like setting up positions in which "YOU" know you could AIR ROCKET, FLICK SHOT, 180 or just hit at a higher percentage, you don't go to a match expecting to do "on the spot" crazy shots all the time. NO, you practice those so called "CRAZY SHOTS". And I'm totally embarrassed with my grammar right now.

edit:
Also practice spam/prediction shots and watch demos. :)

i gotta add a couple of things:
being somehow warmed up phisically imo helps your reflexes and muscle response timing.
Sometimes your eyes are just tired and you don't realize it, if you keep watching a screen the focal point of your eyes won't change for long period of times so it becomes little by little a harder to focus properly and you start missjudging where the xhair actually is without even realizing.

I've tried doing physical exercise in the past but gonna try it the next this appears!

- I started with not making the shot without knowing you are going to hit. After a while this will become natural and your shots will become faster and more accurate. There is also no point in making 3 shots that will miss, instead of one shot that hits.

- improving lg was basically lowering sens and playing bots.

- don't think about your aim. You ALWAYS have to take into consideration that you might miss. You shouldn't be using rails in dangerous situations, so missing, while a disadvantage, should not give away frags.

- don't change your play style, everyone has bad days.

- refresh your config, but don't mess with your controls and sens, sometimes have a fresh look will make you feel happier.

Here is my blog on how to aim:
http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=1768284

"- don't change your play style, everyone has bad days." he should if he plays an aim heavy game, like i did. everything is fine if you are on fire but things go to shit if you are on an off day.

Even pro's adjust their style a bit at lans if they notice they are not hitting that well imo

I probably have been more clear on that point. What I meant is that your play style should be independent of your aim, and you shouldn't be panicking if you are missing. Most likely the problem is not your aim... or you are just having a bad day.

Like, don't change everything if you are having a bad day. However you should have two modes of play for circumstances where you are hitting badly during a game.

the problem with me is, sometimes I miss the ones I know I'm gonna hit 10/10 :p

Doesn't mean you shouldn't still do it.

I shouldn't miss them? When my aim is bad, it's as bad as a 1000 elo dude and that's not normal to ever happen for a 2000 elo dude is it :x

maybe you're a form/confidence player. happens in football where a world class striker can go through a bad patch missing the easiest chances with each successive miss making him worse. then a lucky or important goal is scored and they go on a huge run. basically the issue is simple... you can hit these shots, the accuracy is there no doubt, what you have is a mental block. the solution although hard to achieve is to get out of your head and trust in you're own ability. when you miss a shot forget about it. with the football analogy the player sometimes changes their game, becoming more of a focal point for attack to bring others into play - in other words becoming more defensive. something you can do is develop a plan b so to speak so that when your aim isn't there you still have solid base gameplay to fall back on. it sounds like a mental issue with you. but the skill is there you just gotta tap into it.

yeah pretty much =) and you probably got it already but I don't really have a problem playing with bad aim, I have a problem when I have _no_ aim and that I don't hit anything, like messi missing the ball, not the goal xD

maybe do some cocaine before every duel :P

doubt that's a longterm solution for this :(

place your crosshair on the green cyberdemon and shoot it till it dies

finally someone reasonable here

ins stealing my binds. fu

Post a demo please.

I think you just have the wrong mindset, you're making your shots into: superduper kill that will determine this superduper match!!!! .
The way i see the easy shots is just an opportunity to fuck with the other player, think of yourself as a dick just trying to annoy the other players

Edit : you are a dick

I will the next time that happens! And at the time it happens I cant annoy anyone because I miss the easy shots >:l

Actually here's one http://www.upload.ee/files/2897451/RAABMAZAA_...dm_73.html
where my rail was awesome in the beginning iirc. Not a prime-example though and don't remember that one really :L

Watched the demo, and from what i saw, the problem is in your head.
Around 4:00 -> you hit 3 consecutive, difficult rails, because you felt that those were hard shots, so you put in more effort in the shot and you hit em.
But from what i saw, when you had those easy rails ex. he was jumping from tp you just flicked your crosshair somewhere near him and didn't care more about it and just shot. In the beginning it almost looked like you hesitated, you had him in sight but waited for 0.5 s before you shot and missed maybe not used to the latency?


Lg fights: You overshooted. To high sens/ non, too low acc/not warmed up?


Would be great if others gave some input too.

In my head yup, but I don't think I put any less effort into easy shots, atleast intentionally :l must be latency in mah brain.

Don't try so hard, do less.

that's what I'm doing I suppose =)

Do less

Do some intense physical exercises when you're cold or seem to be wussy after a long day ro early morning. It will keep your blood flowing, muscles tight, and raise overall condition of the body

My aim is always super steady and movement is sharp after few miles run or intense workout

had no notable effect when I used to do that :/

i dont mean like 3 push-ups, like 30-40 minutes of vigorous stuff

I've tried both

you should definitely try to eat more fibers

About your third question, I don't really know about warmup, normally you shouldn't have to push it because it's bad for your body but about consistency you should definitely try to eat more fibers.

I'm 100% certain I'm on an constant fiber overload :/

are you implying he's full of shit?

0)
i question your setup :) my aim is miserable when the sens is to low for the way i play (a cross between claw grip and some fingertip aiming). how do you play, what is your sens?

1)
whenever i keep missing the easy shots i start concentrating on the crosshair. reason is, most of time i line up my shots keeping my eyes on the enemy and focus on how i want to position myself in the map. sometimes i keep missing those shots i shouldn't have, but it's because i barely missed them. so no big deal, a little correction and lots of repeating will fix this.

2)
focus on hitting the 100% shots, those you really, really shouldn't miss. base your game around them, it doesn't matter if someone else can do the crazy shots you can't.

3)
you need warmup, but everything should be fine after 15-20 minutes. if it isn't, it's not more warmup you need.

4)
in general, don't focus on the little stuff. good aim is mostly about positioning and knowing what your opponent will most likely do next.

i wouldn't fret about missing a bunch of easy shots in warmup for example, as long as i set up the shots well all is good. the fine tuning either happens on its own or when i focus on the cross for a bit.

5)
work on your mental game, it helps with anything competitive.

my sens is 3.25 or so with wmo (is it 400 or 450 dpi) with 0.09 accel, so it should be fine.. maybe the key thing is to look for the superduper easy shots until I hit one or two and build up my confidence that way, cos what sucks the most in this is that it totally destroys my selfconfidence :L and my aim is genrally alright, just _sometimes_ I hit nothing :)

yeah, hence point 5, mental game is key. how do you play then, arm/wrist/fingertips? although that setup is indeed fine for almost anything :p

wait, that setup plus pitch/yaw 0.018 is low for someone not using their arms/upper body to aim (imo).

I use my arm quite a bit too :L

Simple, it results from you either having totally random mouse settings, or messing with it too much, the rest is just your head.
Find yourself a suitable mouse/accel settings (in case you like to have mid/high accel, pay extra attention to acceloffset, the worst piece of cvar shit ever), test it for a few days, done.

Id guess your sens is too high atm, that personally always gave me random aiming outcomes (aimwhore vs justregistered). Anytime that happened, I used to focus on my aim and movement rather than the game itself. Maybe it'd be worth trying semi-russian or russian position, it gives you more control over the mouse.

Your inconsistency in skill level is the same, youre pushing it too much. Take off some of the focus ure giving to your aim by watching pro VODs at the cost of some of the playtime.

I dont mess around with mouse settings, I always have them for atleast month or two to get fully used to them. Sens 3.25 accel 0.09 with wmo pitch and yaw 0.018 iirc. Doesn't get any better with lower sens or higher sens :p I've tried different sensitivities for diff weapons but didn't do much difference either.

+ I've probably watched every pro VOD there is :*

watch utube of pros playing, say 2-3 games (30 min. i'd say is enough) or even better watch demos of pros, same amount of time. then go play. dont play before, play after u've watched. you dont have to thank me or acknowledge my suggestion, just do it

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1) midgame obviously or in tournaments where you have to play
2) that's so 2005 :P
3) check check check!

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midgame...

and I did read the text and all back in the day it doesn't give me anything new or anything that would help me with this one =P more like guidance for people new in fps / people not able to conclude things on their own

about 2 years agot i came to conclusion: aiming by raziel is bigges bullshit i've ever read

1) watch your pov demos in timescale 0.5/0.25 during fights

2)godmode against nightmare bots at 1.25/1.5x timescale for 15 minutes.enter a server, f3 .

haha the second tip, that must work!

it really does, although the "neo in the matrix" feeling wears off fast after a few minutes of slower gameplay (by that time, however, you should be already leading 20 to -1 with 70% lg and 120% rg worst case scenario).

it's like being used to the standard 1x quake and playing at 0.75%, accuracies dramatically increase

unfortunately long training sessions at >1.5x timescale grant you one of those sweet,all nighters migraines

You god of war?

Coming from an instagibber in UT... I've been playing a pretty aimheavy style for years and I doubt there is a "best" way to get stable aim but I've been using the following for years:

Low sens +no accel ( I use about 35cm for 360) + low fov. Ive used the same sens for years and try to get the same for all games I play. Sure it's not optimal for all situations but I hardly have to play anything anymore to keep my aim pretty good. I'm not an aimbeast but my aim doesnt drop that much when I have an "off" day.

JUST...AIM...DOWN

Might as well give some actual aiming tips for guns.


rocket launcher.
I never used to use it because It wasn't spectacular or awesome enough but I've started using it now, i find that if you are trying to get mid airs and directs then it is a fun weapon and RAGES people.

Best feeling for rocket? A high sensitivity with a very smooth, large mousepad, this actual tricks you into not over flicking and you start picking your rocket shots. And because of the smooth mousepad you will actually catch up to enemies that are moving quickly in directions or if you are juggling them and they fly around you.

I've hit some fucking RIDICULOUS close airs that should not be trackable because of this setup. It looks precisely like cyphers style of rocket juggling, keeping the mouse very steady and only moving it to catch up to enemies in air/weird positions.

First rocket is the absolute key:
1) Don't rush it, even sometimes wait and aim to throw off the rocket timing and enemy dodges.
2) only try to first rocket direct if enemy is off the ground or you are going to die if you don't do super damage

Plasma: shoot first plasma bolt at enemy face - then shoot next at random left/right of enemy and then where they dodge, you shoot at their feet and every plasma hits them, because they are going to feel/hear that they are getting damaged (by the splash damage) and try to dodge thinking they are dying hardcore, which is when they become super easy to track.

LG: dodge first, aim after. This is the gun where you need to be a tracking god to be good, no tricks. get good faggot.

Rail: CONSISTENT high rail. I have tried to get this and finally after years of changing cfg / setup and stuff I found the answer.

The reason we can be hot and cold at this weapon is because of the ranges we use it at. Using it a 5 meters, 50 meters and 500 meters from the enemy feels different from each other. Do you think you can aim the same way at these distances? Possibly some people can but most can't. I now use 2 zooms depending on how far the enemy is. Thus each zoom and regular fov has its own rail feeling and now I am aiming very high with rail at all times. 100 fov / 70 zoom rail my usual combo, if the enemy is too far I just zoom and hit him, feels like fucking normal. If the enemy is REALLY far and I want to pixel him, I just zoom 40 (don't strafe) and hit him again easily.

The rest is really just about having good sense of combos and dodging to destroy scrubs. Do defrag so you have complete control of your mouse, because finishing defrag runs and getting good times means you have that precise control.

Errh I think not giving a shit about rail and shooting prediction shots help as you eventually get more consistent with them.

But when I read the rail section ALL I SAW was:

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- Play bots for a few hours each day, you will stop missing the easy shots.
- Lower your fov
- Play CA and only use 1 weapon for a whole day

lowered my fov 120 -> 100 few weeks back =)) felt better have to admit

----> getting kicked/insulted by your own CA teammates

playing lg only in ca feels like normal ca to me

it depends.... there are always peoples complaining about something, if you use hitscan, you're an aimwhore, if you abuse rockets and plasma, you are a fuckin' noob spammer, etc; you cannot play CA abusing just one weapon, or listening to some music like someone suggested, or you will probably end up being called noob or tard.
And the kick votations will follow soon, expecially if you are particularly good in abusing weapons like plasma; even more if you manage to use it effectively against some big pieces in the enemy team.

Your problem is quite simple, since I suffered from horribly inconsistent aim aswell, with WMO aswell. Problem is mouse grip in relation to sens.

The issue is that using arm muscles for aiming provides better reaction time and lower accuracy. Therefore, the ONLY viable palmgrip playstyle is ultra lowsens (40+ cm for 360). This way you balance out the low accuracy given by arm muscle aiming.

However, playing mid/high sens with palmgrip is the worst possible choice. Moreover, WMO is made for clawgrip. When I started clawing the wmo (aiming with the wrist/fingers + constant repositioning of the mouse, my aim didn't get better, but perfectly consistent.

The 2 main aspects are the following: 1) palming + arm means you exert inconsitent downward pressure on the pad, making the mouse glide inconsistently, while a wrist movement does no such thing; 2) constant repositioning of the mouse ensures you always move it withing a "sweet area" where you can develop muscle memory and feel comfortable. Everytime your mouse ends up in an awkward position (near the edges of the pad, off center), your aim suffers drastically since it's a position you are not accustomed to.

So, in my view, you have two choices: keep palming the wmo but lower your sens, or start clawing it. Also, in_mouse 2, never forget that. Alternatively, buy a mouse that can cannot be palmed, like abyssus. Good luck and stop being such an attention whore.

I'm an attention whore simply cos I made a journal about my issues considering aiming?

No, because you dismiss dozens of pieces of advice saying that "nooo, that's not the case, I'm super special since all the issues you're finding that are so common-sense do not apply to me. I'm such a unique and twisted case of bad aiming that nothing you say can be applied. I have all the prerequisites of good aim and strong mentality, so all you assholes are replying in vain. Nothing you ever say will be good enough for my super-special case. I already did every possible thing to improve my aim, but i haven't even heard of m_filter.".

That's what you say, basically.

clean your goggles!

No need, it's obvious: out of a 10-line post, you picked just the bit that annoyed you, while ignoring the rest of the info. Ego much?

Nothing new with those tips you gave and I disagree with some of them, but the attentionwhore bit was interesting so had to ask more about it.. Not much ego imo =)

Well, give clawing a try, with the elbow on the desk. It might help.

As small claw mice besides WMO, I can recommend abyssus and zowie AM2. Also, too little friction on the pad lowers your control, so the aim gets jittery and sloppy, so have a play with mouse feet and/or different pads.

Yea I guess I should try clawgrip out.

I still don't see why would a player like you (solid aim, 2000+ elo) come here and listen to every recommendation by (some) players who are waaay below your level aim wise and skill wise.

Honestly I didn't expect to get much fresh ideas but got so much good ideas from here, even though I'm not a beginner. So surely was a worthwhile journal =P Secondly the problem is, there are times when I hit like 1000 elo dude! Like 1% of the matches and that's strange to ever happen to a 2000 elo dude like me! And I didn't think getting warmup tricks but tried anyway, happened to get those too =) Of course I listen to everyone bothering to write their thoughts out, it's a different matter whether I do what they say.

All right, it just seemed a bit strange from the arguably top Finnish dueller to ask for advice rather than give some :D

arguably only finnish dueler x<

Only top Finnish dueller?

only competing finnish dueler atleast!

Well as I see it now it's not just for him, 2300 hits!

does anybody trying close eyes and try hit in point?

How is your confidence? I know alot people that get "overconfident" when they start hitting their shots and fall into a negative spiral when shots start missing. Theres nothing more annoying when you miss shots you expect to hit. If its a problem, try resetting your mindset as best as you can.

If this isnt your problem, try upping your sens for a while and make it as hard as possible for your self to hit. Go back to old settings and play normally and you should start feeling normal in a while.

Hardly ever overconfident, I think.. But at the times when I don't hit anything I have absolutely zero confidence and that hurts my game so much :< But yea at those times I try to take the easiest angles available if even those. Yea that changing sens tip might do something too, thx.

overconfidence doesnt have to be something your aware of and can be a subconsious thing. The trick is to know when and if it starts affecting you.

Try this, when you start feeling less confident in your play, be careless and have fun instead. Basically do the opposite of what your doing to combat it. Just relax and go with the flow :)

doing that doesn't have a happy ending score wise =8D but yeah I guess you could always recognize it better and faster if you're getting overconfident (before you get punished for it!)

I know it wont help score wise, it's just a nifty exercise for self control, Self discovery etc.

It helped me not stressing so much while playing duel games, tho it took me about 100 games of +forward suicide mode before i got the hang of it. ;D

Have you tried

Lifting the monitor to your eye level ?
Monitor closer to you ? (top cs awp players have it a palm away !)
Playing against lesser skilled players to build up confidence and focus?
Do you do cardio exercises an hour every day ?
Do you play when you aren't tired ?
Does this ever happen when you get "in the zone" or focused ?
Do you "feel" different when you aim well or not(aka focused) ?
Can enter a focused mode freely ?
Does your movement skill cap suffer simultaneously when this happens

- Yes
- Yes, I think my gaming position and such is OK!
- Too often and too often I end up not gaining confidence :D!
- Never cardio these days but used to - no real difference, couldn't play well instantly after though.
- Rarely, and even more rarely I'm tired I sleep so much
- Yea surprisingly, sometimes even if I'm close to being 'in the zone' the next match I might not hit a thing :o
- No I can't feel a difference in my concentration levels
- Yes no problem unless I've had more than a 3 day break
- A little if at all, maybe the hardest of jumps start to be more diffcult

Actually, this may be the problem with your wrist muscles being overly exhausted at some days.

Do you have any wrist and hands symptoms overall?

My left wrist has been sore for half a year but doubt gaming was a main reason for that and aim with my right arm (less with my right wrist) but interesting approach nonetheless, could be somekinda muscle exhaustion.. maybe..

Maybe sometimes you are just tired when you play. We all know when you are ingame you don't feel the tiredness, but it affects your game(reaction time, precision, decision making, everything)... and while vs mediocre opponent you can even not feel that(like the extra 0.5 secs that takes you to react, or poor decision, etc). Vs strong player that 0.5 is all the difference that lead to missing that easy rail that you normally would hit all the time. Then after missing few of those you start to "try hard" as overthinking your aim and that makes you even worse aimer.
P.S. Emphasize on your railgun aim. I can see from your stats that you have poor railgun(given the use percentage(only 18%) hitting only 44 avrg is too low. I can say from your use that you don't feel confident with the railgun. Everyone with decent gameplay and railgun aim will destroy you. Try to train your point/hit aim.

Maybe it's me being tired somehow but I don't see correlation innit because it seems to happen quite randoml :f Maybe it's me overreacting indeed and then snowball effecting it unconsciously. I've noticed the 18% usage too and I probably use plasma instead, 3,3% usage (compared to people confident with rail you twister strenx who have ~0,6%) And I admit railgun indeed is my weakest point atm I think! Another interesting thing with railgun is I very rarely use zoom and when I use it it's me standing still and aiming for some easy shot waiting for him to run over my xhair. At other times I feel I aim better without zoom. (And I used to play with 120fov too, so part of my aim problems could've simply been that I can't properly see the opponent :'D Switched to 100 fov few weeks back and been aiming a bit better ever since I think.

Quick question: is it only about aim, or are you simply falling "out of the zone" regarding everything, including aim, awareness and decision making?

Mostly aim only, though my movement becomes maybe a bit more glumsy but not much. The rest remains normal, though decision making soon affected by poor self confidence :p

Nutrition. <-- the missing factor, (aim or otherwise,) period.

I've been playing Q3 & QL off and on for like 10 yrs. For almost 6-7 yrs, all I ever did was log on and play CTF pubs, b/c I enjoyed aim & movement aspects above all others.

Also, I am the biggest ALTERNATIVE health freak most people I know have met. Favs: www.westonaprice.org, www.mercola.com, www.whfoods.org

And I have some very good experience with the intersection of nutrition and performance of various sorts.

I must say, despite what you will hear preached by the entrenched establishment, that saturated fatty acids (butter, eggs) & medium chain fatty acids (MCTs, coconut oil and milk) will give you significantly greater mental stamina and significantly quicker reactions. If & when I've been consuming coconut & mixed nuts, for example, and given that I have a similarly tweaked mouse/monitor setup, I find myself pulling the craziest shots of my life. I'm talkin' 180-degree flick midair rockets, on enemies flying away. Midairs in mutual fade-away flight, at 50 meters end distance. Other player (skilled stranger) disconnects. (LOL I guess.) And the rails. You wanna make some psychic rails... you wanna feel like you are the on-fire specimen of pwnage... I'm tellin' you what always, always does it for me.

The modern idea of a low-saturated-fat so-called diet will kill you, literally, slowly. Your body needs sat fats, as a highest-quality energy source. Your heart burns saturated fat for energy because it is the most efficient, longest lasting energy source. The mitochondria in your body's cells, and concentrated in your muscle tissue, will only burn fat. Otherwise, carbs and proteins must be broken down and inefficiently fermented out in the cytoplasm of your cells for energy, a process which creates many times more free-radicals (cell-scarring body aging agents.) And then, if you run low on energy when your body is not in fat-burning mode, it will turn to your muscle tissues, and begin cannibalizing them. Also your brain itself is literally composed of saturated fats, and your very myelin sheath, itself, is built from cholesterol no less. Little-known fact, your liver makes cholesterol for building cell walls-- (cholesterol is the essential ingredient--) and your liver has to do more work if you don't eat enough in your diet.

Allow me to enquire of you. Have you now, or in the past, attempted to cut back on your intake of dietary fat sources? If so, might I suggest the opposite... ;)

My name btw, Funkitronian, turbofunk, Funkitronius. ESR: Opus. Here's to quitting-- some day, LOL.

The moment I read free-radicals I realised that most of your post is bs.

Simply because people have overused a given term for their own crap marketing does not render proper use illegitimate. Try my suggestions yourself. Remember, you are !"what you eat." You are what your body does with "what you eat."

http://www.fitbomb.com/p/why-i-eat-paleo.html

Consider the fact that mother's milk contains the highest cholesterol content of any food. Is nature conspiring to kill all babies? Or have we, upon leaving infant stage, lost our digestive abilities somehow? Our dietary affinities? (Edit: Do you see my point with that last one?)

Or, perhaps, is conventional health wisdom bat-shit crazy, just like the rest of this corrupt world? (Corn/soy industries making a killing, forgive the pun...)

I cite as supporting evidence the Western rise of obesity and disease, insomuch as it precisely correlates with the popularized cry for (and increasing success at) lowering our fat intake. I for one choose the road less traveled and, for my health, it has made all the difference.

Didn't read the 200 posts so apologies if some of what I say has already been posted.

Do you struggle with your aim vs opponents that you think you should beat easily?
Do you struggle with your aim vs opponents that you consider much stronger than yourself?
Do you struggle with your aim vs opponents that hit a lot of difficult shots against you?
Do you struggle with your aim when your opponent is playing very aimheavy?
Do you struggle with your aim when games are really close/you get nervous?
Do you struggle with your aim when you play players who you know well?
Do you struggle with your aim when you are on stream/people spectate you?
Are there particular players that you can always hit and others that you have trouble aiming against?
Do your aim struggles occur during long sessions against the same player?
Do you struggle with your aim on certain maps more than on others?
Are there any shots that are particularly influenced? Flick aim? Tracking aim? Shots when your opponent is moving very fast? Shots on opponents attacking you? Shots when you are attacking your opponent?
Do you perceive the game as being laggy or choppy when you have those bad aim periods?

Some general advice:
-Don't use wmo. I had very simular experiences to what you have (inconsistent aim) when I used it. Other people had simular experiences when using it (Rapha etc). Can't wrap my mind around how overrated that piece of shit mouse is on this site. Generally I would recommend a heavy mouse rather than a light one (g400 f.e.).
-Changing your settings doesn't only have a placebo effect. Your brain is habitualizing everything you do repeatedly ingame. By changing your settings, be it graphical, sens or whatever, you also force yourself to play more alert and actually think/do the little things instead of them being automatical.
-Use my rail crosshair for increased rail accuracy as well as guaranteed placebo boost.

so what is your rail crosshair?

a windows mouse pointer

5€

so a 5 € bill tucked to your monitor

7 da best. ask stermy too

Hoped you'd reply! But umm, generally my aim is ok, more or less but the reason I made this journal is that sometimes (rarely though) it's so much off that it makes me sick (at those times I hit that 10% rail 10% lg and so on). When I have those games that I hit NOTHING, I struggle vs everybody, doesn't matter if I have a long session or a short one, every shots are influenced and I miss even the easiest ones you can imagine, even when I'm on a perfect defensive stance (same thing if I'm offensive, I just die faster) and I don't think the game feels too laggy at those times.

Generally:
Do you struggle with your aim vs opponents that you think you should beat easily? No.
Do you struggle with your aim vs opponents that you consider much stronger than yourself? No.
Do you struggle with your aim vs opponents that hit a lot of difficult shots against you? Maybe a bit if I lose confidence of hitting my own shots
Do you struggle with your aim when your opponent is playing very aimheavy? Depends on my confidence, sometimes I enjoy it sometimes I hate it.
Do you struggle with your aim when games are really close/you get nervous? A bit yeah, mostly with rail though
Do you struggle with your aim when you play players who you know well? No, I almost feel more comfortable then
Do you struggle with your aim when you are on stream/people spectate you? No not really, not anymore
Are there particular players that you can always hit and others that you have trouble aiming against? None that I could think of
Do your aim struggles occur during long sessions against the same player? Not really
Do you struggle with your aim on certain maps more than on others? Obviously dm13 is easiest because no rails I could screw up =P But no not really map-dependant
Are there any shots that are particularly influenced? Flick aim? Tracking aim? Shots when your opponent is moving very fast? Point-n-shoot aim sucks for me.
Shots on opponents attacking you? Shots when you are attacking your opponent? I think I'm pretty good at both
Do you perceive the game as being laggy or choppy when you have those bad aim periods? Atleast it used to feel laggy when the server was full, but not that often anymore

Tried using deathadder but wmo is much better for quake and for me, imo. Yey an encouragement for placeboeffecting! And what's your railxhair? I use a white cross but a black cross felt neat too, still havent changed though.

I can see a few reasons for what you are describing which my questions were sort of hinting at.

My first thought was that you might worry too much about who you play against/the result of your games. I think everyone has a simular reaction when you unexpectedly starting losing/ get put under pressure by a weaker opponent. Some get nervous, others get angry. Perhaps in your case you start overthinking everything instead of playing your own game. Stopping to aim instinctively/automatically and instead try to aim 'contiously'/differently which can have a significant negative effect.
If that was the case your phenomenon shouldn't happen when you play against players who you 'respect' and consider it no shame to lose to. May also try playing under a fake account, see how that goes. If you fakenicked when playing et chances are this point is relevant to you in some way. Afterall why do you think 80% of the et community plays games under fake nicks :p Can't handle the pressure...

Another thing I can imagine is tiredness. But not the physical kind (though that could have an influence aswell ofc) but mental. For example if you play the 10th random practise game in a row against somebody and you don't really have any particular desire to win the game. Your mind might relax and you could lose concentration and thus precision. The way to combat that would be to only play when you are really motivated. Everything else is a waste of time anyway :p

I'm also not sure about what you mean by the 100% shots that you are supposedly missing. I havent watched the demo you linked yet but somewhere above you mentioned missing a rail onto opponent coming out of tele on t7 and that's not a 100% shot at all. You can leave the tele in a lot of different ways so it's quite easy to miss the shot if your aim is not 100% on. What I'm getting at is that there are a lot of actual 100% shots that you can base your game around. From my personal experience my aim is pretty much never off on hub while it might easily be off on other maps the game before/after. The reason is that I pretty much know all the shots I'm taking by hard. So for most shots I don't need to visually aim for but instead it's a combination of timing, sounds and knowledge about my opponent that allow me to know where exactly to aim my rail at because I know that my opponent will pass that place in a moment. From then on it's just a matter of pressing mouse1 at the right time. The more comfortable you are on a map that more of such shots/angles you know. And the less actual aiming you have to do. This is why on the highest level you will see most people take the fewest amount of risks possible and preferably just do the same thing every game. Because that means that all shots you take are automatic and in your comfort zone and you don't have the risk of your aim letting you down.

Last but not least if I were you I would not write possible problems with hardware/mouse off. Clean the bottom of your mouse/your mousepad. Try a reboot if it's really bad, perhaps ql/windows is bugging around. Personally I always have a really good feeling for 180 turns. If I can't do a perfect turn I know that something is wrong.

You can find my railcrosshair in my config, it's on my ql profile. Can't look it up at work ;)

A superb post, lots of good points and things that affect me atleast to a certain degree.

But I feel this not-hitting-a-thing-thingie can happen no matter if I was winning/losing vs 1400/2400 elo or whatever the circumstances really, that's whats the most strange thing about this imo. Haven't found a connecting factor between those no-aimy moments, they just seem to come and go :(? ET fake accounts are prolly to protect egos, don't think it would affect the stresslevel much! In quake maybe but I've played with fakeaccount and that didn't do much difference performance-wise, don't remember having those no-aim moments with that acc though.

Second thing you mentioned is probably true I never realize that ingame though, but I think it's good prac nonetheless, you get repeats if not anything else! =O)

I didn't say that was a 100% shot, it's something like 10% shot for me vs good players xD My reflexes are so laggy I guess. But some of those railshots when the opponent is airborne going for t7 mega or just imagine the easiest possible railshot that you would miss like less than 1/100, I miss those a few in a row o_o Something in me just draws the crosshair away from the model no matter what. But yea mapknowledge rocks I know that, good points nevertheless =)

Maybe a reboot and a cup of tea (human reboot) would be the best solution the next time I miss everything as it clearly is a mental issue because everything else seems to be absolutely fine!

Maybe this could be a starting point to help you understand/solve this problem: http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/sports-...sheet.html Particularly, see the "Building Confidence in Sports" section.

In regards to "Haven't found a connecting factor between those no-aimy moments", note that in your first answer to Twister, you mention the word "confidence" twice. :)

And if you only have that "problem" the number of times you say you do, you really have a very solid confidence in your game. (Edit: And rightly so, you aren't in the top #100 for no reason. :)

Yea that's a good url but most of those I'm already familiar with. Liked the last one though, doing the things you're good at and not focusing on what you're doing badly too much and that way build your confidence =) But generally I think my confidence-level changes don't reflect my aim all that much, only the decision I make and fights I choose. It's like high confidence isn't particulary the reason I hit but more the outcome of the thing that I hit well. Feeds one another though, if I'm hitting well I get more confident and my damage output increases and I manage to execute more diffcult stuff. Vica versa I start missing my confidence drops I take easier and more favourable fights more and so on. But that's when I sometimes (rarely) keep missing the easiest shots and there we are again =B

Ps. Nothing better in gaming than being confident in ql duel about your aiming dodgingn movement decision making and everything! Worth the battle getting there imo D:

From my personal experience my aim is pretty much never off on hub while it might easily be off on other maps the game before/after. The reason is that I pretty much know all the shots I'm taking by hard.

diz aint aim my ua/de friend...

You should link a demo of u missing 26 rails in a row, didnt think that was possible :p

linked a demo where i missed 20 rails in a row somewhere up there ^ :<

1. focus
2. be in control of the game, then focus

can't miss 20 consecutive rails if any of these are done
maybe you are too relaxed, confounding relaxation to being in good shape/mentally/allconditions ok?

been there done that didn't go all that well :( everything should be ok!

cg_placebo 0.8209 never failed for me

bound to mouse2 now!! toggle cg_placebo!!

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man its frustrating, i have the same problem since 3 weeks , i cant hit shit.
i miss the easiest shots and stuff , and cant make even a 360 turn, my movement sux too.
it feels like, im new to this game.

my mouse and evreything else feels very uncomfortable but i didnt changed anything.

Do you have stable fps? Do you have good mouse with stable polling rate? Do you have decent interwebs, you are not using wireless connection?

If yes to all these questions then you should quit. 15% average accuracy for main weapons is really horrible

check for all of those and my account name is mazaa =P

Dude, trolling or smth??

no? =o

I'm just curious, are you on a low fat nutritional regimen, and if so, how long has this been the case?

Along those lines, and in case you missed them, I would point you to my posts above, starting with "Nutrition. <-- the missing factor" in the first one.

My diet is normal and didn't take your post seriously D:

TL;DR
Drink more coconut milk. :) I think this is something Cooller found out on accident through his body building!... :)))

would be more interested in cypher diet if anything

True, lol. Although I think Cypher's got a crush on Cooller...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7mXorE_cdw&hd=1 ;)

Probably most have seen this vid, but am I mistaken in believing that Cooller's mid-airs and overall aim improved significantly sometime after his return to dueling?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u65C-b_Jt5M&hd=1&t=1m1s

I'm not comparing everything here to Cypher, for example, but it seems like a beastly improvement from his past aim, especially considering Cooller's involvement from a young age, similar to Cypher's own.

Cooller's always had the out-brain, but I think his execution improved. That vid also has the mid-air + frag, to rail, to rj to telefrag. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u65C-b_Jt5M&hd=1&t=4m11s

Beats strenx in LG fight. Strenx too +forward?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u65C-b_Jt5M&hd=1&t=3m51s

Anyway, maybe we should ask Cypher if his mom cooks with homegrown eggs/butter? :D

cooller's a nub! cypher's not!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/o6bdvhhmyqjbofg/cypherClean12182012.cfg

D:

any advice from spart1e ?

I know this post is really old but i found it because of another post and i thought this was interesting reading.

I came up with a tip that i think you should try if you still have this problem. Or anyone else for that matter.

So here it goes:
You can start this kinda excessive.
Every time you hit a rail, tell yourself out load or in your head something encouraging like: "NICE!", "NICE SHOT!" or "YES!".
(Think the best way is to say it out loud.)

This will make your mind react to what you did as a good thing and will save it in your memory.

Then it will be easier for your body to do the right thing, because it knows from memory what it should do. Because your mind got an reaction on it before.

If you do the opposite, react on all your misses you will save those in your memory, and you will think that's how you are supposed to do next time.
That can easily start an evil spiral of bad thoughts.

So start with commentating every rail you hit, even if its just 1 out of 40 rails, and don't care AT ALL about the other 39.

Normally we people mostly react to negative things strong.
To try to change this and motivate the positive things you do is a good way to both make you more happy and proud of yourself, but it will also make hard things easier and then minimize the failure.

Because your mind is set to do the "RIGHT" thing.


The mind is a tricky beast, for example, if you miss a rail, or shoot a golf ball in the water or some other sucky thing in your life, and think "Fuck, I am not gonna do that again"
Then your mind will not register the word "not", and then you end up with "Fuck, i am gonna do that again."

That's one of the reasons why people sometimes get into those evil spirals.

Tha'ts a nice idea. Hitting for me is most of the time something I probably take for granted and not pay attention to that or reward myself. Can't wait getting back to playing after a +3 month break!

Yeah me to.
Often when you do something good you don't give yourself credit enough.
I'm trying to learn how to do it myself, but sometimes its hard to remember to do it.

I'v learned about it in a lecture from a guy that works with the mental parts with pro athletes among other things. For example he spoke about a golf pro he tried to help that had some problems.. So he told him to encourage himself every time he made a good shot instead of getting disappointed on the bad ones.
To make a mark in the brain when he did something good, instead of bad. Then his muscle memory would remember that and know what to do.

I have been thinking of it for a while and tried to apply it to my quake game, but i haven't really given it 100% jet, so maybe its time for me to try it more excessive as well.

It's kind of an easy thing to do if you just get started.
I believe it will give good results, because the logic is there in my meaning.

Hope it will be able to help you maza and to see you back in action soon ;-)