What's a kick? Only command I know is /reconnect

So in theory, kick is already abolished.

The only thing that bothers me are the retards that F1 no matter what... even accidental kicks.

I wouldn't remove pub kick-votes, but I would change it so pub kick-vote approval requires a higher majority, such as 75%.

We must be on different servers. I never see players getting kicked even if they deserve it, there's always those F2 assholes.

And I would like more F1 retards, because there are those people who won't press anything ever. And you can't shuffle, and the game is fucked. Or you just wait around until for the 3rd or 4th time enough F1s are pressed to shuffle.

lol

Amazing cropping skills you got there.

thx i do MS paint for a living

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No wonder the kids are mad, resize your damn image

what bothers me is people like Malevolence that spam vote KICKF3FAGGOTSROFL so that nobody can shuffle when he has a stacked team to carry him.

on top of that, in his own server, he aborts games when he's losing in 4v4 and 5v5 games, and he manually moves players from team to team so that he can stack his team, then all ready the server.

people like that dont need to exist.

That's why you should avoid playing on premium servers that are spawned by someone.

On the other hand playing maps like tox or aero with spawn protection sucks.

or, id could just refuse to honor his pro subscription and keep his money for abusing the system.

surely there's a legal way to go about doing that, right?

Or simply report the abuses to eradicate this behaviour.

human scum

Oh god malevolence. How the fuck has he not been banned considering the number of abuse support tickets that have no doubt be registered against him? Guy is probably the biggest POS in quake.

it's funny because, on the contrary, i'd like to be able to kick even during matches, when dumb people don't want to spec or switch team in order to balance them.

Tgarsika or whatever his fucking name is comes to mind. Thedied used to do that a lot too.

speaking for pub CTF, i would blame "id", since there are no lower skill servers left anymore in the serverbrowser(at least i can't see them anymore).
So skillrating doesn't work anymore at all, and everybody is suggested to play on the same servers.

i personally try to kickvote total nubs too.
it's pub, but that doesn't mean that it should be allowed to be totally fucked up and pointless.
if that was the case i could also bang my head to the wall for 20mins and have the same amount of enjoyment.

play pickup?

pub is for everyone? how should a total nub get into game?

because whats the point of having a skill match system if nobody plays in their own tier?

and whats the point of playing in your own tier if nobody that plays is in that tier?

let the noobs take over the pubs, join the pickup community. eventually the noobs will do the same thing and maybe by the time they figure it out they will have learned something.

edit: like me. i played a few games of pub ctf and thought i could destroy in a ctf pickup but i found the exact opposite to be true. im planning on playing more ctf pickups in the future because they're really fun and its a new experience for me at the same time. well worth it to avoid hopeless-first-week-players ruining games in higher tiers.

i know but you are willing to fix a lack of player base by cutting it down even more, which is destructive to the game to say the least.

and i have no idea about ctf pickups but tdmpickup i actually found noob friendly. ofc there are ppl that bash you but mostly teams are balanced and no one cares. and it is a much better learning and gaming experience, sadly it's all done on some irc's and not an integrated feature of quakelive....

thats more or less how my ctf pickup experience was. despite the fact that i was absolutely horrible at it, the game seemed fairly even at the end of the match because the players that were on my team carried the extra weight. pickups really are quite good.

im not saying cut the player base down at all, im saying that if the amount of new players that decided to start playing quake actually had a functional skill match that more people played in BECAUSE it worked well, then better players wouldnt necessarily have to resort to pickups for good games. at this point, after only 5-6 pub ctf games, i feel like the only place to find a half-interesting game of ctf is in the pickups. the pubs are too easy because of the hordes of noobs crashing tier 4 servers.

im on both sides of this argument, but for different reasons than you assess. i think everyone should be able to play the pubs, but i dont think that first day, or first week players have any business being in servers with people that out class them. that's why im torn between playing pickups or sticking with smashing pubs. im sure i look like any other run-of-the mill pub nub to the pickup community, but i get called a cheater non stop in the pubs, so wat do?

also, in regards to the way i, personally, felt about my ctfpickup performance, the people i played with were quite nice and very welcoming, regardless of how badly i managed to play.

When was your last pickup ctf game and who'd you play with? I don't remember seeing you in ctf servers, only see you on ca campgrounds with zepare.

i only played 1 game but i sat around in mumble and watched a bunch. i played with icelore, wckd, cuck, and some others, cant remember who else was there.

i dont play ctf often because theres either nobody playing it or the 6 people that are have no idea what theyre doing. just my experience though.

i also havent really been playing anything but CA because of the qlgl thing recently.

i don't wanna play pickup.
total nubs can get into the game by playing on servers they belong to(aka tiers).

If you are Tier 4, you can only see those servers... (except samplers, and duel)

well in the past i could see tier3 servers aswell, but if they still exist, then i have even less problems kickvoting players who are worse than "i can win" bots.

The problem is, tier 3 servers are so bad in CTF anyone can get past them if they can move and shoot at the same time. That's why T4 is getting watered down.