aww... a new pilot-shaped mouse from logitech, and its optical!

https://secure.logitech.com/assets/47819/3/g1...images.png

The g100s is 85 grams? That's surprisingly heavy :-/

Don't know what's so surprising about it, MX300/G1/G100 were the same weight.

they've always had 13g weights inside

errh

G100s has a 15g weight inside (confirmed by Logitech Rep).

70 grams then, much better! Nothing revolutionary though.

Also the way the weight is distributed is a consideration.

True, the weight will almost certainly be behind the center of the mouse.
Quite possible that the mouse will get a bit front heavy if take out the weight.

Feels fine without the weight, at least with my g100 model from a year or 2 ago that only sold in Asia. Without the weight it's probably slightly front heavy but my thumb and ring finger lingers closer to the front of the mouse making it feel balanced.

Nothing interesting so far to be honest.. nothing changes, the DPI increases are more cosmetical, not practical.. kinda disappointing with the rough competition logitech gets.
Zowie has basically exploded out of nothing I think. I tested an EC evo and its fantastic.. People worship steelseries senseis even though they are inferior to g400s.
Still there are many possibilitys for new products, but only the g100 was added. Whcih sensor does it use?

so it's gonna be bst mouse vs g100s for me =)

Have u guys seen the pricing? I doubt anyones gonna buy one after reading that ^^

It's not that outrageous if you convert from $ to €

I've seen much worse from those stupid razer pidors

G100s, advised price of 40 euros. thats 15 too much for a mouse of that caliber imo

what if it is very, very good. 40 euros is not much for the last mouse you'll ever buy.

You plan on dying soon? : D

my wmo outlasted my last dog

Poor puppy.

WMO =/= G100 though.

my mx300, G1 and G3 still live, i can't say the same about the ms 3.0 and anything i bought from razer :p

My IMO 1.1a was 9 years old (I sold it ~5 months ago) and my IME 3.0 is 7 years old now, no problems whatsoever, at all.

My Diamondback lasted 5 years, then I sold it (in great working condition) to try out something new.
The Diamondback 3G was 2 years old when I sold it. It needed a new left microswitch, but that was entirely my fault.
My Salmosa is 1,5 years old now (well, that's not much), no signs of any problems yet.

EVERY manufacturer has faulty pieces, but I guess it depends on the user as well.

na, i dont think thats the case. the razer boomslang and the salmosa were broken by design, not by users or manufactors. the ms 3.0 has a tendency to break at the cord (no stress release) too, which is simply a design error.

Then it's a miracle that I hadn't had any problems with either of them even after many years of use.

wmo > boxers

"The Logitech G100s Optical Gaming Mouse is expected to be available for a suggested retail price of $39.99. "

"39 U.S. dollars = 30.2091402 Euros"

40 dollars means 40 euros in europe due to taxes fyi.

Also, logitech mice (for me at least) are notorious for brittle plastics, that dig a hole over the switch, resulting in poor connectivity over time.

If i have to replace a mouse every year and prices are shitty, then yeah no im not going logitech :)

Sounds more like razer to me.....

It says 39,99€ on the European press release. We never get that kind of conversion.

I guess ordering via amazon or ebay is an option?

Not really, shipping costs and the possibility of having to pay a customs duty makes it not worth it, not to mention you don't get any kind of warranty.

I've never seen a Logitech product being sold for the suggested retail price. So take off 10 to 20% and that's probably the real release price here in Europe.

lol 40 euros too much for the perfect gaming mouse shape with an awesome sensor and lots of thought into the gripping surface? G100s will be the holy grail of gaming mice.

Thats a bit premature to say. Mice have always been hit and miss, always. This new product line just looks very razer like, expensive and prone to breaking :o)

why would it be prone to breaking?

they have in the past by experience. also no company is gonna make rock solid products, people wont need to buy new products anymore if the item in question is perfect.

dont be so naive ;>

I have two mx510's from 2005 that I've opened up a few times and fiddled around with. They both run perfectly to this day with no wearing of the surface or sides.

wait so ur telling me u have a boxed mouse that still works fine?

I'm telling you that I have two mx510's that I've used, both for a few years. I bought an extra 'cause my friend wasn't gonna use it so I had one a my place and one for school, LANs and so on. Both have been used for countless hours of gaming.

2005. Now it's 2013. The quality of the products dropped significantly.

kevz was talking about their older products and I just added that my two mice from 2005 have not broken. :>

my mx510 was practically destroyed by 2007 rofl

I've mx518 since 2006, and it still works well, despite of re-soldering broken cord and fixing it's "feet" with cianoacrilate glue.
Fully scratched Logitech logo doesn't disturb me. =))

But now I looking for a new mouse only for one reason - I need 1ms response time, which I cannot overclock with my mx518 on my Win8. =|

Logitech makes the most durable products by far man.

so howcome the plastic under all of my logitech mice, ended up 'compressed' or grinded off, practically killing the connectivity of the button, time after time?

yeah i use some force whenever i play shooters and such, but still, plastic that disappears/bends over time?

im not making this up u know, infact, my cm storm xornet is having the same issues just sped up. but then thats a 20 dollar mouse, i sort of expected it to have a shorter life.

they dont make the absolute worst products, but u guys are so off the charts weird wanking over logitech at the mo its kinda funny :P

The first flaw my mx510 had was the plastic bending on the position I put my pinky finger. The only time that ever happened to me again was like a year ago with the cheapest mouse I've ever used.

Thing with logitech is they have a fantastic warranty policy (g400 is a prime example) and they are surprisingly good. Not that they have a best product in any category because they don't, but they do the job in an unexpected good way. You will encounter cheap plastic and all that though.

I'm still guessing that razer plastered their logo on your logi mouse.
People are abusing their mx300/mx500 for almost a decade, their products are known for durability.

theres more to it than just the outside :P but their shells are indeed strong heheh

i dont think i got unlucky with my mice, the plastic just got worn out faster than expected. its an old 'flaw' of their mice.

about the new mice; theres the sensor and firmware. but cant really know how that will unfold untill a proper review :)

i feel logitech makes decent mice, 7/10 if i had to put a number to it. with some products scoring high, and others low.
me, im always researching before i buy something, i just like to know what kind of flaws i will have to deal with. opposite of impulsive ^^

Dude, show me a razer which costs 40$.

product LINE.

Ah, my bad. But they're still not as expensive as razer and they do have actual improvements or at least proper attempts at improvements i.e. hydrophobic coating. Razer is just bullshit gimmicks like 8200 DPI and synapse and shit.

G100s will be the holy grail of gaming mice.

Just like the G100, i trew in the corner, after i found out how awesome it is? (sarcasm) And again i will be stupid enough to buy this mouse.

is the g100s sensor OK?

seems like an updated 3050(most likely exclusive srom only). It's pretty nice and tracking at low dpi is really good, though original 3050 has some minor bugs(one of the reasons bst decided to switch to 3090), for example horizontal pixel shifts while moving vertically. 3090 feels a bit better than 3050 with a more precise tracking, higher max speed and stuff like that which is mostly because of better architecture(though 3090 is basically 10 years old). 3050 is more a pixart alternative and i'd put it in between pixart and 3090, though some people prefer pixart over 3050.

G400s is... Sexy!

http://i.imgur.com/5XL4t8K.png

Pic of all of them for the lazy.

G100s seems perfect mouse. I've been waiting this day since 2007, headshots here we come.

Hopefully with better buttons this time...my G9 is slowly dying on me.

^^

The G100 looks actually quite nice. Too bad that I need ages to get used to a new mouse these days. Better stick to old mouse ;)

why is everyone saying the g100 looks nice? no side buttons, no real ergonomics... shitty avago 3050 from what I heard..

"from what I heard.. "

Best source so far.

Because there're people out there who hates side buttons and right-handed mice?

pilot shape, ambidextrous, who cares about side buttons in quake?

The G100s has a brand new sensor, not an updated version of the G100/G300 sensor. It is exclusive to Logitech.

Max speed on black cloth is around 120 IPS (3 m/s). Tracking quality at 2500 DPI (if you go that high) is significantly improved over G100.

Microswitches on left/right buttons are rated to 20 million clicks - 2x the durability of switches that we've shipped in the past. Beyond just the microswitch, we've also upgraded the actuator on the underside of the keyplate to be more durable so that this can be achieved. It takes us around 80 days of 24/7 robot testing action to validate 20 million clicks.

I'm doing a Q&A thread (the one Skylit linked to in the OP) over at OCN that answers some of these questions and more, but I'll pop back and forth as I can.

Welcome "Chris from Logitech", feel free to stick around our boards and throw in some info about your products.

Always nice to get info at first hand.

I've been reading ESR for years but generally limit my posting to OCN because I don't have enough time to post everywhere. You guys endlessly asking for a small, ambidextrous mouse with a high-speed sensor is one of the reasons G100s exists, though, so I figured I'd show up in person.

Well that is pretty damn neat. Thanks!

WoW, 3m/s only ?! The current G100 that your amazing company didn't even bring to the NA and EU market can take up 5m/s without flinching.
This ain't enough for people doing fast flicks at really low sens.

Talk about a successor for the mx300...

This has been discussed before here: hf trying to reach 3m/s while playing any fps game, on a decent skill level.

I just measured with enotus to do a few flick 180 railshot behind my back and it reported 3.8m/s on avg. And I only play at 50cm/360. Must be even higher for CS players with carpet pads and sens going in the meter/360.
If you're using med to high sens or accel it's fine, but stop pretending it's the only way to play.

50cm/360? in quake? fucking nutcase

We have to wait for tests because those numbers do not mean much.
If WMO with its 2m/s is so praised here, I don't see much problem with 3m/s, which is usually underestimated anyway.
Also, keep in mind that Enotus is very inaccurate.

From avago official specs:

ADNS-3090
High speed motion detection - up to 60 ips and 20g

ADNS-3050
High Speed Motion Detection up to 160ips on white paper and acceleration up to 23g
High Speed Motion Detection at typical of 60ips and acceleration up to 20g

WMO - 125 Hz -> 1 m/s
WMO - 250 Hz< -> 1,55 m/s

This is perfect control speed an i was talking about malfunction speed. And yes, this proves my point even more ;P

Eh... 80 days... 24/7 is.. eh... 3600... minus 7 multiplied by a few and a half...is ehrm...
3 clicks a second.
Well, that's about just like me drawing in autocad at work.
cool robots you have.
Anyway, thanks for the info.

Have you considered a plain design for the mice? Those patterns look hideous tbh.

Those are the only designs we're shipping now, and I can't discuss what we might do in the future.

I bet unchanged MX 300 re-manufacturing is not in the plans.

Or putting a g400 sensor into a wingman mouse shell. :(

stop with stupid suggestions to release something only you would buy

stop with stupid comments not logged in so only you know who you are.

The wingman was a very popular mouse and the g400 sensor is damn near flawless. Combining the two for some kind of throwback/anniversary mouse I don't believe would be unthinkable.

yeah, i`m using one with deathadder optics built in. i guess they would need to add a wheel so more people buy it, but anyway that would be my ultimate mouse.

Now that would be interesting as well.

If you watch the video they put up, the designs are a lot less gaudy than they look like in the pics. The g400s looks way less blue (better imo) especially.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_e...iPKTFLKx6o

True. Like some Revoltec-junk. I don't understand manufacturers nowadays; even if the product itself MAY BE good (haven't tested yet), why should the appearances imitate 15-year-old's dreams?

how about performance at 400 and 800dpi?

CPI steps are 250, 500, 750, 1000, etc up to 2500. Tracking speed performance is pretty consistent across the range, but I don't have numbers I can readily share. Besides, I know how much people love being the first one to get ahold of the thing and make charts and graphs of their Enotus experiences. I don't want to deprive them of that.

i hope you fix the rattling mouse buttons on the G400, bought 2 and they both had that annoying problem...

I will always have a logitech mouse on my desk top. never had one fail on me, love the size and weight options. G500 forever.

Where did the OCN thread go?

OCN probably has some gay policy about advertising.

Seems that way. Quite disappointing as that thread answered a lot of questions.

Here's the Google cache for every page of the thread except #2, #4 and #14:

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Thanks but Page #4 is missing.

So it seems. Edited.

#2 is now missing too.

I uploaded the pages for offline view (#2,#4 and #14 are missing)

http://www.file-upload.net/download-7371323/logi_thread.rar.html

Yeah, they'll eventually all disappear from the cache. Good job on preemptively saving and uploading.

G100s looks interesting, I hope the sensor performs well. I've had good experiences with Logitech mice and I've been looking for a new small, light, ambidextrous mouse since my Abyssus is so low build quality I'm expecting it to break soon.

I'll definitely keep an eye on G100s and give it a try, I wish it had onboard memory but it's not a big deal if the sensor performs well and the build quality is good.

If the G100s tracks well it might be the one for me, that shape is just too good. Gotta find a new PTT bind though.

I'd like to know if the G400s actually does have a better tracking speed @ higher DPI than the G400 has.

I' 'forced' to use my G400 @ 800dpi, as anything above that makes the mouse skip/neg. acceleration.

And yeah, 800DPI sucks. That's right, I said it.
All you WMO freaks can suck it. 800dpi is TOO LOW.
My xhair 'jumps' when I do the tiiny corrections when sniping at distance.
Its time we buried the whole "800dpi is all you need" nonsense.

I want at least 1600dpi when playing at 40cm @ 360 degrees.

The only mouse that has been able to deliver on that front has been the DA2013.
Sadly, the lift-off-distance is way too low on the DA2013 (for me)
So, I had to go back to the G400 @ 800DPI, which I do not like. But its the only thing working for me.

I'd love ot get the G400s, if it can tracks well @ higher DPI's.
I'm just worried that Logitech has listened to all the 'pros' whining about the LoD, and how it absolutely MUST be 0,00001 nanometres, or it's completely useless etc etc.

Yeah, I'm a player that needs HIGH LoD.
I virtually never lift my mouse during play.
However, I do wiggle the mouse quite a bit when I aim/snipe.
This requires HIGH LoD - for me.
What are all these huge game pads for anyway?
If the whole world was full of these low LoD junkies, why would anyone be selling any pads larger than a post stamp?

I'm not the only one needing HIGH LoD. I hope the mouse devs think of people like myself - the silent majority - too when they decide on which LoD their mice will get.

Yes, I'm drunk.
Yes, I'm typing in the dark.
That doesn't mean I don't mean any of what I'm typing here.

Get a DeathAdder 3.5g. It tracks best at 1800dpi and the LOD is massive.

I have one, but the tracking speed is not high enough.
The DA2013 is the only mouse that has high enough tracking speeds @ high enough DPI (for me).

The G400 still tracks better than the DA3.5 @ lower DPI.

Mine tests at around 3m/s on a Goliathus Speed, 1800dpi/500hz and no drivers. I play at 32cm/360 and haven't hit that speed a single time.

You realize all the pros using WMO are playing at 400 dpi, right? You're claiming twice as much is too little.

Now, do you play at some unheard of 4k resolution? If not, there's no reason why you should need anything above 800 dpi. Especially not with your low sens. The higher your sens, the more dpi is needed. 40cm is 16 inches, so assuming you play at a 1600x resolution, 1600x4 (assuming fov90) = 6400. /16 = 400.

400 dpi is really all you need. So no, it's not time we bury the whole "800 dpi is all you need" nonsense. Because for the vast majority - normal sens, normal resolution - it's not nonsense at all.

Also, "silent majority", haha. You really think the majority wants a high LoD? You're far out.

What do you want him to do? Stop wiggling the mouse? Basically terrorism.

I've played games in which his issue happens, which is the crosshair jumping when using zoom. Doesn't happen in quake3 and games that use that engine.

You play a game that doesn't require the PRECISION that my game does, period.

Or you would not be saying what you are saying.
And yes, Quake is not high precision. Especially when you factor in all the BS zooming and on-the-fly sens switching shit.

Even Quake Instagib can be played a ridiculously high mouse sensitivities. I recall doing very well even at 8cm @ 360 degrees @ FOV 130.

In UT/UT2k4 you are hitting just a few PIXELS when you are sniping/instagibbing at range, where most of the action is where I play. (we don't zoom aka cheat in UT, unlike in Quake)

400 DPI is a joke. The pixel the xhair moves @ 400 DPI is just about as whole hitbox size at the ranges I play - even at 40cm.

I do not care for your mathematics. And until you play a game that requires true precision, you may go on living in your WMO fairy land all you want to.

Go into a game, set your xhair (and make sure you use a tiny dot, not a big ass QL LG cross that your lot rave about so much) on a tiny target, far, far away.
Make the smallest possible movement with your mouse @ 400 DPI.
Now repeat the same with higher DPIs (remember to compensate for cm/360).

If you can't see the difference, you suffer from Quakitis. (like 95% of the people in this forum)

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I do not care for your mathematics.

we don't zoom aka cheat in UT

Actually, you don't "need" a specific DPI value at all.

Depending on resolution width, you want a sensitivity value (multiple of default yaw/pitch) that is low enough (or rather produces more individual angles) to avoid massive or noticeable "skipping' (I don't like using that term because the degree is pretty situational. On higher resolution, it's less apparent.)

I don't really see the means of discrediting individual preference though just because a majority use one specific value.

Actually, you do "need" a specific DPI value at all.

Depending on sensitivity value, you want a resolution width that is high enough to avoid massive or noticeable "skipping' (I don't like using that term because the degree is pretty situational. On higher resolution, it's less apparent.)

So perhaps you should try telling McFly why he's obviously wrong instead of nitpicking. I based some of what I said on what Sujoy once wrote here. http://www.esreality.com/?a=longpost&id=1265679&page=2

What I tried to say was not that he needed 400 dpi, but that more wasn't "necessary". He claimed otherwise, and quite drastically so. Then of course there's a dimension of individual preference, which I never contested. He's the one who came out aggressively and stated that 800 dpi is "too low", and that it's nonsense that you don't "need" more than 800. Now, that's not a statement of preference, but of objective fact, and it's what I was trying to address.

If that's wrong as well, feel free to chime in. But then I'd prefer you actually said something of substance, instead of your usual nebulous ramblings.

Potentially interesting mouse drama incoming

Sorry, I misunderstood you.

He's mistaken his personal requirements or needs for something being too low or high.

roccat kone pure optical / roccat savu / spawn + high lod firmware ?

To all who laugh at McFly, do you even know how fucked up the Unreal2004 engine is mousewise?
any sens higher than "1" resulting in noticable, massive pixelskipping.
At least when i played the demo 8 years ago. :D

There's not 1 single UT game that felt smooth to me. I can tell when a game is based on the UT engine. I don't think any engine will feels as smooth as the Id Techs.

Nuttshell

Hm the new ones are coming, I now understand why they giveaway the G400 if you get one of their keyboard.

First logi g100s pics/reviews/tests

There they say the cable is awful.

Have anyone do a test yet with the G400s?

2bad they didnt move that dpi switch down to the bottom of the mouse.. its annoying right there near mouse3

Save your money, logitech mice are junk.

I tried the G400s briefly and it sucks, the sensor felt slightly worse and the new switches make the mouse buttons harder to click. Sticking with G400

The higher rated switches aren't really the cause, rather tooling modification made to plungers.

I agree with them feeling worse though.

With comments on how the cord, sensor, and buttons feel like shit, I think I'll skip the G100s, and probably get the Zowie FK or one of the Ninox mice.

Where does it say the sensor of the G100s feels like shit?

That is really unfair, those reviewers are trying to point out potential flaws just in case, so that you won't be disappointed after purchase.

Now let us pretend they are trying new mouse which happens to be WMO, these same reviewers would say it is terrible because it has very thick cord, low malfunction speed, only 125hz, no teflon feet, no omrons etc.

It is our hardcore community who convinced logitech to release g100 world wide, so if you like its shape then at least give it a try, you can always return it.

The cord is the only issue I have with it. Perfect shape, my buttons arrived perfect as well and there's been nothing wrong with the sensor for me (only using 500 and 1000). Still wish I had a glossy top though, and the slanted top portion of the buttons bothers me, but those are fixed on the aurora. Weight is also easily removed (12g).

The chord really did get a lot better after it was worked around a bit. I wrote a short post about it on overclock.

All in all I'm pretty happy with the mouse. It's great for sc2 which is my main game at the moment. In CS I was able to reach maxspeed like twice playing deathmatch, but not a huge dealbreaker.

It's the best mouse I have atm.

_ viowastaken (too lazy to make an account)

I agree, though my cord is still being difficult for me. I think a nice mention is the feet they use as well. It seems alot higher than the default on other mice and feels really slick.

Haven't really had much problems with malfunction on FPS games (my sens is approx 48cm/360) and enotus tests state it at around 3.5-3.6 m/s.

It isn't the strongest or most impressive mouse from a technical aspect, though it's precise and rather clean. Minus the top plate issue (handful of mice) and annoying cord.

MSRP could have been a bit lower, but w/e. We'll see how they fluctuate via reseller.

Once all is said and done, I think it's a good mouse for what it is. Actually pop'd my 13g weight back in lol

ok, i just bought a g100s on sale for 30 usd after being a bit dissatifised with a zowie evo ec2 mouse (uneven left and right button switches, didn't think the glossy would get so gross).

The cord could be more flexible like a zowie mouse. however having used a wmo for so long, the slight stiffness doesn't bother me.

sensor felt ok. no noticeable heavy prediction.
max speed at 1000 dpi / 500 hz on the enotus test was 2.83m/s
wish there was 500 dpi setting with no drivers. don't like the dpi button on top as i never make changes in-game. who does? on bottom, it would be better imo. 'lod' is maybe 1-2 mm too high on black cloth, but manageable at ~30cm/360.

button switches aren't shit. however i dislike how the buttons are slanted and would prefer them to be flatter, but i don't about that in-game. double clicking / rebound felt great.

i like it.

put the weight back in mine as well, feels a lot better (and I usually prefer really light mice)

coming in may to europe, yay

http://www.logitech.com/press/press-releases/10819

I find it really depressing that there is not a single mouse out there, except for the wingman, that allows for a relaxed three finger grip (index, middle, ring), and that doesn't have a scroll wheel. A scroll wheel on the middle button almost completely nullifies the advantage of a three finger grip. That middle finger is there to help modulate the control of the mouse. It does so by establishing a firm reliable interface with the surface of the button.

A wheel is not a firm and reliable surface.

Same thing for the side buttons - they get in the way of the thumb actually making valuable contributions to the control of the mouse.

Please, if anyone out there is reading this, and is in a position to do something about it, then please do so :)

Just picked up a deathadder 3.5g, looking forward to implanting it into one of my wingman shells. I also have a G400 that I've never used - I may try to implant that into another one of my wingman shells.

pal why dont you just get a freakin mouse shape you like and remove the scroll wheel?

point me in the direction of a mouse that has a wingman shape and a decent sensor and maybe I'll try!

sorry, I misspoke - I have the logitech G600, which I thought could replace the wingman, but the feel is completely different. For one, the height is too extreme, making fingertip grip not very effective, and the right button is so sensitive that even a small amount of lateral movement leftwards causes it to inadvertently click

Dear ESReality users

I came here today to tell you a story.
8 years ago my friends in school made me start playing cs 1.6.. my first mouse ever was a louse ball mouse... soon it would be an mx 510.. for YEARS to come. however even the greatest things are over sometimes, so here we go mx518!
Now, 8 years later, I have been using a modded g400 for almost half a year now and still havent gotten the same nice feel like the mx518 first gen..
then I tried out the EC1 EVO and I can tell one thing for sure: NEVER going back again!
This is the absolutely finest mouse I have ever used.. and my fucking hand rests on the mouse for sometimes 12 hours a day. I only finished school last year.. and everyday after school I played like 3-6 hours, so dont take this lightly.
It beats my experiecne with the firstgen mx518 which I so far deemed the BEST mouse Ive ever used (I tried the intelli 1.1, various razers, roccats and whatnot and a few others on my road for short times).

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Been interested in ZOWIE's line-up, but they are hard to get in the Netherlands. Want to try my mice out before I buy them.

Just bought a Logitech G700 Wireless Mouse (has 13 buttons), can say a perfect gaming mouse. Now, I'm looking for a wired mouse but not a Logitech this time.

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Evoluent Vertical Mice are on my wishlist. Please suggest.