looks awesome

Some text would be appreciated.

I thought and thought and still thinking :s

good thinking !

:D

Looks good

Best looking map in QL. Looking forward to trying it in some games! :-)

wow <3
\akm/

I just revealed what was already there, I guess :)

Thanks to SyncError for suggesting we detail the door-frames, way back in the earliest builds :)

well made presentation!

... now i wanna see some sparks fly.

dunno if it's gonna work without rail, but new tdm maps are always welcome!

looks pretty 1337

-1PG+RL

fuck PG online ;X

agreed, else it's just gonna be spamfest

Yep, hated very much T9 for that very reason.

a) lets play it first bitches!
b) having only one RL is well thought thru. Dont forget that you have no RG on the map, wherever you place the 2nd RL should overpower it at the same time.

replace it with a grappling hook

well thought thru? BS is literally useless without RL (and LG is highly unlikely to get since it's on the other side of the map). With one RL it's gonna be quite random
And quad area cannot really be attacked versus LG without rail so it's always gonna be stacked quadcarrier

/me sighs

yellack you forget that the mapmakers dont think at all and only people who never made a map or any contribution to ql at all are bright as hell and would for sure make THE perfect map ;D

I'm sure sinister was well thought through, too ((

I like Sinister. :(

But T9 is sweet. D :

:D

I agree with this, PG is in my top three favorite weapons but since my ping went up from 20 to 60-80 it's completely useless and it's used mainly for spam on higher pings which is annoying not being able to utilize the weapon as you should and can on lower pings. So plus 1 for another rocket.

fuck
akm and yellack have my babies

but,its ok to have a no rail map,but not in ql where shaft is overpowered and railgun is nerfed,i already see 4 players camping lg for 20 mins :|

no worries, I'll spam them with rockets and nades from above!

i'm calling it. this is the new dm14

That spinning thing at BS. Does it really have to spin? :) Reminds much of the spinning thing on Reflux. I dont like it.
Else it looks good.

Reminds me The Frag Pipe.

For me it was the best moment of the video when I saw the "moving trap" in it.. only some switches to activate doors or even activate a trap are missing :]

Looks pretty nice! Can`t find anything to complain about... it seems very balanced for me.
We`ll see how it will work with the lg

Looking forward to play it o/

Looks pretty damn bitching.

and when is the update ?

On Thursday.

if the last april prenium pak is anything to go by, it could be the end of this month

http://www.esreality.com/post/2254425/quakelivepremiumpak12/

if those are released regularly, that is

http://quakelive.wikispaces.com/Updates

april or may then (wild guess, I know)

When? When? WHEN? UPDATE? When? When? When? WHEN? UPDATE? When?

Soon! Soon! SOON! UPDATE? Soon! Soon! Soon! SOON! UPDATE? Soon.

The map looks really good, but the BS area looks dangerous.

that's the point probably

Yeah it is, but still it doesnt look like anything ever seen imo. (Maybe also the point)

that's good news as well

The BS area looks badass.

As for the music: one of my friends once streamed with music on, that's when I heard the Limbus track first time in my life. I got shivers how good it was and I never knew about it all that time.

That sounds a bit over the top, but thx :D

I'll actually upload it now, incase anyone is interested.

Limbus Track :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ykfr4jxq97dzjp/Limbus.mp3

5MB

u did it yourself ? in that case good job :D like how it evolves

Ye, the one in Arcane as well.
<3

I love this. The collaboration, the presentation, the look of the map.

Looks good! Hopefully the gameplay will be good..not sure about the BS room tho....I dont like maps with PU's where you can "fail" eventho you do a perfect setup and cover the PU perfectly...a quick lag and you fall down => "waste" :/

Will be interesting if there are enough places on the map where SG and PG can be used :>

The BS room looks cool, I like the fact that the a team can protect the BS by pushing the enemy to the pit. Makes going to BS a rather hard task even if you're in full control

This is fucking SICK. If I were in Europe i'd be jerking off, but NA tdm is dead so im limp as fuck.

Anyway, make some more shit. This is awesome.

This map would be amazing with two quads to run =D Fuck BS

Plus no rail is :( What is a quad run without rail frags when you're on like 50/50 and hitting 8 frags etc?

I see it coming, this map is gonna be Legen... wait for it...

:)

DARY. 2 Powerup map, no rail. Not to many edges like Grim, and not too open. I bet it will be great. Wanna play. It. Now. ^^

sweet <3 no railgun

overall looks good, needs a try-out

Purgatory and Limbus are best TDM maps ATM, so I believe it's authors made something good again :) No rail = interesting, didn't see it since cpm4...

im fine with no rail gun, but only 1 lg and 1 rl? this is gonna be sg und pg only :D. but the map overall looks great, cant wait to try it out. would be also great if you could make a showmatch and levelup is gonna stream it. then we can see how it works out with 1 lg and 1 rl :P

reminds me of cpm21

As in foolish legacy? How the hell? :D

As in finally a tdm map with chances to be played with kinda moving trap in it? :] That this trap is directly at bs is even better and +1 for no railgun in it aswell.. really looking forward to play it..

If it plays good like your last 2 maps and it gets in pickup mappool, it will get my mapvote from now ..

Such a cool edition to a new map a featured video preview which showcases the map, the music, the layout of items and special features is ground breaking! Keep up the great work guys. This is what will help get people excited about a new map and want to play it!!

Edit: Might have to do a 2v2 TDM event also for this map!!

I think LG is pretty overpowered here. Distances are pretty long and there is plenty of room to dodge vs rocket, plasma or anything else. If played correctly quad should be better than bs here.

Watching the video more and more i dont see enough ammos for sg Rl and plasma,this gonna be a machinegun map due to long distance shooting and you cant do it with sg rl and plasma

4x PG
3x SG
4x RL

This is quite a lot for the size of the map.

how many mg ammo?

4x MG
2x LG

looks awesome
But i don't like double PU map :-w

Why? You can stack on them. >: D

looks great, looking forward to playing it

for me it's like terminus...
which isnt played as we all know

Aerowalk was like Terminus for me as well when I first saw it.

Item placement changes can be done afterwards, after playing the map. What matters the most is the layout.

I like the map and the textures recall the old good q3 maps.. good job

awesome!

Looks good!

what a good-looking bitch.
afraid of a massive doors-camping, though.

It's nice reading criticism from people who haven't played it so far, yet have decided to whine in advance. good on ya moits! keep up the great work yellack and akm this looks truly fantastic. some interesting concepts that can let some fresh air into the gameplay. can't wait to see it in action.

I don't see a lot of prejudice, just opinions and speculations.

This is ESR after all, replies in the vein of "LOL NO RG? I AIN'T PLAYING THAT SHIT" are a common occurrence, so far I don't see any.

I'm not really attacking anyone here, maybe i came across more harshly than I intended. I really should have written: calm yo tits moits, let's save the energy for actual playing the damn thing, before getting worried that something is off.

Tits.

I like tits.
Tits are nice round wobbly bastards.

I expected more RG whine tbh, ESR been pretty cosy so far.
Thanks all for the good feedback. <3

Also:
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Don't know any of the details, but wanted to say that i personally rly appreciate all the work that must have been put in to this. gg and tnx.

Also tnx id for being considerate in regards to community maps.

Arcane Citadel Music + Walkthrough
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPCWUUEjLaU

keep it up men

edit: can't download the video from the Dropbox link :( Right Click > Save as

edit2: right clicked the Dropbox link, but had to right click the second link. Thanks Yellack

hmm how come? Seems to work here.

use the download button on the right
https://www.dropbox.com/s/89ibgwfwsa8rt3k/Arcane%20Citadel.mp4

I was waiting to see Michael Jackson jump out and break some moves.

wd

He made Thriller.

Damn I love this Quake-origins dark-gothic-map mood. Would like to see more Icon Of Sin scary faces and pentagrams here though:). Also - BS room is what a powerup room should be in the first place - dangerous in all kinds of sense possible.

Also - no RG is a very good idea, as it changes the pace and tactics of the game. Learn to think different, guys, like in the start of Q3 era, where we had t2, t4 and some other maps with crucial item/weapon shortage, which enforced a completely different mindwork (apart from the all-items maps), which resulted in amazingly diverse matches to fight AND watch.

Lack of scary stuff and pentagrams = Rated T for Teens :\/

Mate, do you really care about 'teens', maturity ratings and bullshit or do you care about your maps to be insanely awesome in every aspect, including groovy oldskool devilish artwork design?

Who the hell are those pussy-ass bitchy 'teens' who will cry about being offended by a pentagram or some scary demon's face? Do these cry-babies really exist? Or do you mean that id soft will not allow such design in the mappool?

id's already fucked up their manly ways with those fancy 'sparks' bullshit (they could make at least an option for switching back to gibs). Do they really denying their original demoniac art now?

If I added it, it would have been removed or the map would not be in QL at all. :]

the music for arcane citadel is really top notch! I had it on loop for a while, really brings out the cyber-goth feel.

guys, you have the talent to make sure that this card will not be the exception! But do not you think that the 6 weapons (gl - only spam) for maps where 8 people are playing it too little. Maybe add new weapons for a change? weapon11/12/13

Controlling weapons is a part of tdm.
On a sidenote: Grim Dungeons has 5 weapons (+gl) and works well : )

it has 2 rockets(and so does every map with BS)

Just out of curiositiy, you say Quadcarrier is already super stacked but you want to add another RL (in that area I guess)?

rather one RL in BS/underground area and somewhere in open midmap/RA area
good example is dm14 or purga where BS runner always has RL. For Quad carrier RL is only a weapon for spawn spam or some mid fights if he got no other weapons left. And most people prefer PG over it in those situations. But for BS runner it's not just a weapon - it gives you movement freedom and let's you get a positional advantage over quad, who got a firepower advantage not only being able to kill other players in less than a second but also has huge cripple effect pushing you away/in corner when you try to kill him with BS.

maybe smth like this, dunno https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11777259/ac.jpg

the RL is between RA and BS, so the BS runner will have a RL, dunno why you think he wouldn't.

Your pic will more or less give 2 RL's to the RA guys.
One can hold GA pretty easily and spam LG, the other RA and backentry, he basically doesnt even need to leave the RA platform.
And with that switch the former RL Area is pretty dead.
It's not good imo. :/

it also has a rail(and so does every map with BS)

Hmm... I absolutely love the map!! Greatly detailed. I'm curious as to how it will look in competition-mode though.
That being said, why ruin it by making it a spam-map? Seriously. Give us a Rail Gun!! This map definitely looks big enough where it /should/ have a Rail Gun.

I want a duel map with a trapdoor right under the railgun

The button to activate the trap is far away, but you can see the rail area, however not the path leading to it, so you don't quite know if the enemy will go get it. .

This makes a new sort of game play, if you're down and you need a railgun to do some safe damage - you can pretend to go for it, double back and rape that faggot who is waiting at the trap door button.

It would create some LULZ for sure.

Or maybe a path of jumps that are needed to safely get to the mega health, but the middle path is controlled by a button and if you try to strafe and it goes down, you fall into lava and need to rj out.

And if you just try to rj to the mega, theres spikes and shit on the ceiling that gives you damage.

maps need to be more creative and fun :x

no MH... interesting.

twister = doomed :D

No rg is great idea! We don't have maps on turnament without rg, Arcane is nice! I hope this map will replace Terminatria on mappool :)

where the fuck is this update?

tomorrow if nothing serious happens again ;]

is it a bug or a feature that only one door (near quad) cant be opened by hitting?

Was about to ask myself. It's very annoying.

QL has a problem calculating the trigger distance with angled doors. Nothing we can do, unless we remove the angle, which sucks imo. :/

It's AWESOME for FFA as well. ^^

Very nice vid, good job :]

Excellent work chaps! looking forward to playing it!