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Bitcoin - the architect has been found? (17 comments)
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Posted by KitesAreFun @ 16:11 CDT, 21 May 2013 - iMsg
I hope he's right:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_e...mDJTGTrEm0
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<< Comment #1 @ 16:25 CDT, 21 May 2013 >>
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By boatclub palatka 
this is probably the least relevant post in esr history
<< Comment #4 @ 00:40 CDT, 22 May 2013 >>
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By United States of America KitesAreFun  - Reply to #1
Good.

That would be excellent!
<< Comment #2 @ 17:19 CDT, 21 May 2013 >>
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By Poland fau 
BS argument. In mathematics this happens fairly often.
<< Comment #6 @ 00:46 CDT, 22 May 2013 >>
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By United States of America KitesAreFun  - Reply to #2
Please explain?

For example "what" happens in Mathematics fairly often?

Personally, I love this dudes (Uber Jap) approach; even if "he" isn't "the one". Avoid the tards in academia, release proof, in so doing, release it to the world, walk away and get a BJ. Fuck the rest of these gaping vaginas!

Jeah!

Edit: Brah! - by no means am I suggesting the argument is "un-weak".
Edited by zalu at 00:56 CDT, 22 May 2013
<< Comment #8 @ 02:35 CDT, 22 May 2013 >>
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By Poland fau  - Reply to #6
1. That ppl cba to publicise their results. Some just cba, others feed their doctorate candidates with them avoiding paper work.
2. That someone writes "500 pages" proof using his own techniques and full of gaps "leaving specialists in the field mystified in the dust" (in other words they just cba to review it). If it's correct then eventually someone does read it and:
a) New branch of mathematics emerges (eg. game theory)
or
b) Someone else writes a new proof much simpler and elegant and then general audience catches on. (very many theorems had such origins)

This is why I called this bs argument - you can find many more such cases (at least one lives in my city)

"Avoiding tards in academia" doesn't describe his actions - he just avoided typical publicising channels. Maybe he was sick of them? There have been many criticizing voices recently. Actually "tards in academia" are the only ppl who are interested in his results and are capable of understanding them.
<< Comment #9 @ 13:59 CDT, 22 May 2013 >>
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By United States of America KitesAreFun  - Reply to #8
Brah! Thanks for the reply.
<< Comment #3 @ 18:00 CDT, 21 May 2013 >>
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By Quake 4 oneroomdisco 
I watched this yesterday and the guy talking is Ted Nelson, he coined the term "hypertext" back in the 70s or something. He's awesome to listen to but unfortunately no one think he's right, because the guy he thinks created bitcoin, has no programming skills or a good understanding of advanced cryptography, so there's no way he made bitcoin. If he did, he was working with other people.

Also, someone else threw some evidence together to show that he likely lives in the New York time zone, the mathmatician lives in Japan.

I think the whole "37, living in Japan" thing is taken way too seriously. I don't know where the creator put that information, but if it was something like a message board, that should be taken with a grain of salt.

On a side note, Ted Nelson also says many parts of computing basics are extremely flawed and bad, his main examples are the hierarchical design in computing (folder structure), and the way documents like pdf and word documents are handled. After reading and watching a lot from him, I realized he's right. The whole world wide web is just composed of hyperlinks, which are shitty one way only paths. If the endpoint isn't there, it's broken. His system (project xanadu) solves that problem, as well as many other issues facing computing right now. His method of how files and content is handled is really interesting, all content is traceable to other files, and links to content can never be broken. It's like all content is shared between files, and not that files contain all the same content. Visual examples of it for word documents shows basically what it's doing, but the system could be applied to other media like music and audio. You could show the links to other video files by a frame of video, if other video files had that same frame in it you could see the link to it and it's relationship. There's a lot more to the system, that's just one very small aspect of it.

The problem is nothing has come from the idea, just some visual diagrams, a few basic 3d windows programs to show examples, but that's it. I guess that's why no one really cares or gives him much attention about it.

Anyway, he has a bunch of videos on a channel on YouTube where he explains in further detail about all this stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheTedNelson/
Edited by Gillz at 18:02 CDT, 21 May 2013
<< Comment #5 @ 00:43 CDT, 22 May 2013 >>
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By United States of America KitesAreFun  - Reply to #3
heh

Epic brah!

Personally, I think Ted is wrong, but I am one biased mother fucker. I hope he's right. I've been arguing with the wife since 2008 about Bitcoin, and let's just say if Ted is right, then that would put an interesting spin on our conversations!

;)
<< Comment #10 @ 14:11 CDT, 22 May 2013 >>
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By Sweden xoji  - Reply to #5
I've been arguing with the wife since 2008 about Bitcoin

Yea right.

Yet another fat n00b after another saying this, that, and the other thing ;)
<< Comment #11 @ 14:18 CDT, 22 May 2013 >>
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By United States of America KitesAreFun  - Reply to #10
Whoah!

You calling me a liar brah!

PALEEEEEZE nugga!
<< Comment #12 @ 14:22 CDT, 22 May 2013 >>
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By United States of America KitesAreFun  - Reply to #10
...but brah!

I should do more running. I am kind of a fat pig these days. But I have high standards! Yo feel me nugga?

Being married makes one lax!

Jeah!
<< Comment #13 @ 14:23 CDT, 22 May 2013 >>
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By Sweden xoji  - Reply to #12
I hear you playa.
<< Comment #17 @ 11:40 CDT, 23 May 2013 >>
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By USSR Demiurge  - Reply to #3
lol. thanks gillz for bringing up these great problems I never knew existed!
<< Comment #7 @ 01:06 CDT, 22 May 2013 >>
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By United States of America KitesAreFun 
I'd like to add that IF you are an engineer, THEN I would suggest you really look into the technical aspects of Bitcoin but not too technical, because the details (not the epic logic) might be lacking.

Bitcoin is jawdropping genius - absolutely amazing.

The internet gets one fat n00b after another saying this, that, and the other thing. Usually they're crying babies: whoever did this sucks at this, sucks at that, but when it comes to X they're amazing!

These retards are exactly that. Bitcoin, the entire idea, is INCREDIBLE. Anybody that says otherwise, is a goddamn n00b.

Jeah!
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<< Comment #14 @ 15:05 CDT, 22 May 2013 >>
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By US-Maryland naper  - Reply to #7
Just wanted to say Jeah!
<< Comment #16 @ 11:31 CDT, 23 May 2013 >>
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By Croatia Kulja  - Reply to #7
here here!
<< Comment #15 @ 09:34 CDT, 23 May 2013 >>
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By AUSNL by dann zkyp 
posting in a United States of America thread.

dat proof

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