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sry cooller*

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My favourite player of all time, sry cooller

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Yeah will be streaming some QL every now and then! Let me know how the stream goes. Also made a twitter: www.twitter.com/voogamer

1, Use a fake account to infiltrate Fatal1ty's FFA matches
2. Rape him until he crys
3. ??????
4. Do it again.

I'm sure that will make up for choking 4-0 in the grand finals and losing a 125k game of painkiller! (Not attacking Vo0 just putting into perspective how the situation is)

Nothing like an injection of reality to into the minds of those random, aliased scrotes that drift around ESR stuck between a daze of inescapable game addiction, long term unemployment and looming mental health issues of which they try to escape by trying to chip at the icons of gaming who made them feel even more worthless than they know they are.

Hehe, enjoy your day losers.

Have you ever considered just being decent and not mentioning the most negative things of everything? This attitude is so tiring.

Have some of you gaming mopes ever considered reading what I am replying to, instead of bypassing it and focusing on my reply because I have installed some kind of inescapable truth that deep down many of you find yourself irritated by that exceeds anything you can discuss on ESR?

I was simply putting into perspective of the stpuidty of that losers mindset.

Also where were you to defend fatal1ty when one of your fellow gaming dorks choose to behave underhand for the purposes of humiliating someone who had done nothing wrong.

See, "gaming mope, loser, gaming dorks".If I would be that rude to strangers my mother would be really upset.

Considering the fact that you probably have a loving mother.

oh he does...



Sorry in advance mouse

:>

damn you caught me off *puts glasses on* guard YEAHHH seriously though she is an adorable person but dude if she really turns you on I would advise therapy

*fixed*

"I was simply putting in perspective of my stupidity towards people on esr"

jameiro, sometimes you manage to come of as a subversive troll. but this post you just made now... :D

no doubt left, you are very, very bitter

Why am I bitter?

The post was not even about me.

I just enjoy picking on losers online who deserve it.

"Why am I bitter?"

i really dont know...

This is like lindsay lohan picking on a junkie

I agree. Everything he posts on ESR comes across really bitter, like he has something to prove. I kinda feel sorry for the guy.

no wonder hes defending fatality.

if fatality is know for anything, its his desire to prove everybody that hes good. in every interview he mentions it.

inferiority-complex, as easy as abc :O)

You know what makes this reply extra stupid?

Vo0 wasn't the one that said/suggested to rename and beat fatal1ty in his servers, but here you are with the unwarranted vitriol..

It wasn't an attack on Vo0, it was an attack on the idiot whose lack of perspective I choose to bring into the limelight by highlighting the facts.

Where were you to defend Fatal1ty after one of your gaming peers suggested aliasing and trying to humiliate the guy in the process using underhand methods (how eastern european BTW)

Funny how so many of you are willing to overlook the initial crimes on this forum, but all of sudden have a conscious if it involves me?

I would have said the same thing whoever the player was.

Fat is the most successful FPS gamer EVER. Get over it.

Vo0 is a great guy, plus an awesome player

Fatal1ty is... neither

So you know both of them personally.

vo0 really is

If you define success by wealth... then Thresh has him beat by a mile

You're so bitter some days.

This from the guy who suggested someone should alias and TRY and beat someone at a videogame under sly circumstances FOR WHAT REASON?

"you're angry at people who made a dime from gaming"
"You're angry gaming made you this thing you are"

I could keep hitting the nail on the head, but I think I'm, confident the gist of my point has long been correct about you and people like you.

If your behavioural issues were able to see the wrongs of its initial doings, I expect anyone who interacts with you would appear less "bitter".

Your comments lack structure and coherence.

Jamerio is the only one who is making reasoned comments.
You're just calling names.

Jamerio is an old basement dweller who had a bad day again and decided to get his frustrations out by talking shit to unknown people on the internet.

Hi, Jam.

get a joke, sir.

remember, 99% of all posts here on ESR is about getting the most plusses.

In all fairness he succeeded.

don't be so grumpy.

enjoy life.

<3

Peace out!

I don't think streaming while tier'slumming will be overlooked by Syncerror :(

So we all agree that we've reached a level where it would be "tierslumming" to play fatal1ty? Evolution is wondrous.

Not sure its necessarily tier slumming. He likes to play FFA and almost every NA FFA server consists of all tier 1-2 players. If a tier 4/5 player wants to play FFA, it would result in 'tier slumming' no matter what populated server they join.

Everyone above tier 2 deserves to be banned. We're all tierslumming criminals. Meanwhile, cooloutac is cracking a wry smile.

play more promode

cpm pls) i know u want it.

Vo0 Gaiia Showmatch on cpm15 pretty please?

Twitch has changed the overlay and url's, it's now all ...
http://www.twitch.tv/voogamer/profile/pastBroadcasts

/profile/ is now after all user's names, had to change all the bookmarks today >8-)

hi Vo0

say what soundhardware do you use ?

i downloaded the stream and watched it with AKG K272HD headphones, there is some white noise on your stream when you raise the level of input/mic or something ...

i also remember not hearing the hitsounds for LG on ZTN once !
it was the day when you said "iam done iam tired"

... and you did not hear the 50health pop up behind you ... ingame 5:25 ZTN

If you watched yesterday, I had some hardware issues. QLPrism kept crashing and my sound drivers were broken, both should be fixed. About the LG hitsounds, I'm playing without them.
The problem is however, that I play with volume fairly loud, and I talk kind of silently. If I boost microphone volume then it increases static a little. If I could artificially lower the stream ingame volume while keeping my actual ingame volume high, I would not have to increase the microphone volume and thus reduce the noise.

Yes i tought so, but later in the stream there were on ...
You had before the weekend this white noise level, even when the input mic was low

I downloaded the latest vid's from the weekend and monday and can tell you later the results >8-)

thought it was promode :((((

hitting that follow button so hard

Follow button is sad and hurt :(

i would consider following it if he played some cpm : D

promode plz

this

vo0 pls go to quakecon! :3

Do a Relic and call Fat out!

this is added to the live streams list right?

Right. :)

watched him today morning :)

Why watch this, when we have Fatal1ty (12 time world champion) streaming as well!?

hoho

because voo beat fatality and was the pk cpl tour winner. Why do you want to watch second place?

Actually vo0 lost 4-0 to fat in the grand finals and it cost him 50k in the process and allowed fat to win more money overall.

Do you hate fat too, what did he do to you, did the nasty man make some money while you didn't do shit but become a bitter aliased thing on a game forum.


Awwww poor gamer addict. DIddums.

But vo0 won more tour stops, and i think overall more money..

I am no fatality hater..

But youre right fat won the final and is pk cpl champion.

nope, fat won more $$$ in PK, because of biggest choke in online gaming...


its obvious voo was better player skillwise, fat just won grand final, eventho he lost to voo day earlier...

vo0 earned more than fat if you count the mvp award

hum hum hum... yeah you are right, i just looked onto esportearnings data, got the mvp info later

Not choking at an event is what separates champions from runners up.
And its a valid skill you seem happy to COMPLETELY overlook.

At that point in time vo0 and fat were capable of beating each other easily.

Vo0 won more stops because he was better at the start, and the PK gameplay suited his style of play from day one, unlike Fatal1ty who was playing catchup for a long time on that game but came good in the last few months of the tour.

not being stupid as jamerio is also a valid skill.

voo won more lans, he did earn more money from pk = he was better player. fat won grand final. thats it.

killsen also won some lan in ql, in the times of rapha regime, but he isnt better player skillwise[eventho he owns]


by came good you understand win in singapore, and smelling voo's ass for other cups? not to mention taking only 5th spot in Chile? totally catching up.

"voo won more lans, he did earn more money from pk = he was better player. fat won grand final. thats it."

1. Fatal1ty Johnathan Wendel $240,550.00
2. Vo0 Sander Kaasjager $230,500.00
3. stermy Alessandro Avallone $118,800.00
4. ZyZ Benjamin Bohrmann $106,950.00
5. Ztrider Alex Ingarv $73,500.00

Vo0 won more lans because the game was naturally better suited to his base style of play from his CPM days and only had 12 months of spotlight. That's just natural luck that came Sanders way. If the game was Doom 3 as originally intended, vo0 would have made less than $10,000 and Fat would have still made Over 100k.

In Chile Vo0 also came third. So fat coming 5th is no big deal.
In the last 8 events FAT placed.

1st (Grand Finals)
5th
2nd
1st
2nd
1st
2nd
2nd

That is what I meant about coming good.

Was it good for you too?

The MVP award might put Vo0 in front of grand earnings (which I am not even sure was paid out cos there was apparently a lot of money not paid which certain players seem reluctant to talk about), but like I said, Vo0 had a natural advantage with PK that Fat did not so it means little to me as that data was based on a short period of time. The data shows fats progress in the game was going upwards apart from a spike towards the end (where even vo0 came third).

We're talking about whose best, they were both as good as each other towards the end, the difference is, Fat came into PK with a huge disadvantage. Vo0 came into PK with a huge advantage.

If you have two 17 year old sprinters, one of whom is running a 10.1 after 10 years of training, and one of whom is running 10.2 with 6 months of training, the chances are, the "loser" is the best person despite what the data shows. That is the person who has the most ability. The other one just had more advantage.

The original WT game was supposed to be Doom 3, had that been the case, I think we all know Vo0 would not have gotten as close to fat, as fat did to him when the roles were reversed.

So for me Fat was the best player based on the closeness of earnings, winning the final and really coming into a game that went against the grain of who he was as a player.

yeah now add 20 grands voo got for MVP award, BAM, who did earn more $$$ again?

Rapha has won more titles and more money in quakelive than anyone.
He is the best.

your words -> voo da best

also: one good game -> skill, 12 months of domination -> luck. OK MAN


ps. i may be here since 2k11, but i can use google. thats enough to show how stupid you are.

"yeah now add 20 grands voo got for MVP award, BAM, who did earn more $$$ again?"

Like I said, Vo0 had a massive advantage coming into PK over fat and most of the other players as he was well known in CPMA which is fast paced, movement based game play which is what is what PK was heavily based on.

We all knew fat was playing catchup, the fact that he caught up within a year and won the finals and more money excluding some bonus payment that was Vo0's from day one is by large unimportant to anyone who understands the full consequences of the argument of who is better.

stop fucking editing your post to not look stupid.

theres no advantage/disadvantage in gamin, or any other sport - only results matter... all this talk about "he played longer than me" is loser talk, and im sure you're used to making excuses :-)

and i dont care about d3, it was PK that was played.

voo still da best pk player ever

Rapha has won more titles and more money in quakelive than anyone.
He is the best.

your words, why dont you stick to them?

"theres no advantage/disadvantage in gamin, or any other sport - only results matter... all this talk about "he played longer than me" is loser talk, and im sure you're used to making excuses :-)"

Yes there is. Because your whole argument of Vo0 earning more money rests soley on a bonus payment he got for being better at something.

At something you refuse to acknowledge was a very niche game that was in fact the ONLY commerical made game that would have afforded vo0 that advantage.

You're looking at things through short sighted glasses.

more excuses. nice. maybe try and think of some argument?

my whole argument is based on voo raping fat ass during 12 months, and one unlucky game, which he lost. but i forgot according to you, 1 game clearly shows whos got more skill, and one year domination is just luck.


BUT MAN, LETS BLAME SHAQ FOR BEING BEST CENTER EVER, BECAUSE HE WAS ONE BIG MOFO. TOTALLY NOT FAIR!!!


we do things we have predispositions to do. voo played cpm -> played pk -> used his experience -> was best player ever, with most titles, and most money earned from the game.

"Rapha has won more titles and more money in quakelive than anyone.
He is the best."

Yes, but vo0 only won more money based on >>bonus<< payment related to circumstances which were naturally in his favour.

Also, I'm pretty sure most people would rather win a Major title than an array of smaller ones. Most of which were not even covered or viewed by more than a few hundred people via a laggy stream.
You telling me a 50k purse in turkey watched by a few hundred via laggy stream is the same as a 250k purse in new york which was on TV? I think not.

That bonus payment was due to number of wins over 12 months.
It assumed the win of each event was equally important as the other, I can assure you, vo0 would have traded many CPL stop wins to win the grand finals in new york, just as any tennis player will trade rankings for major titles. Its the major titles people remember, not how many weeks they were deemed as number one for based on small, and by large oncovered events.

That that bonus payment treated every stop the same (which they were not).
That the bonus payment was based on less than 12 months of play where vo0 had an initial advantage based on the niche game type.
That the game was the only commercial game in the world that suited vo0.

You would rather reward someone based on flawed purposes.
I wouldn't.

blah blah blah, same old nonsense talk, lets blame hunchbacked ppl for having normal kids blah blah blah


dont talk about tennis - you have no idea about that sport.

there are 4 grand slams in year. not one. end of your argument, my ow my, that was fast.

12 months > 1 game!



ps. if the one milion prize pool was divided equally on every lan in the tour, fat would be far behind voo. but luckly for him it wasnt, and he won against best player. fluke, nothing more.

"there are 4 grand slams in year. not one. end of your argument, my ow my, that was fast."

But there was only 1 Major in the CPL Painkiller WT and FAT won it, in fact, given the prize purse was 250k vs to 50k of the other stops, it would not be unfair to say the final was 5 times as big as the other WINS you keep focusing on. In which case, it would probably push FAT ahead, as shown by the money earned, excluding the flawed logic behind the bonus award. End of your arguement, you're right, that was fast.

12 months > 1 game!

"ps. if the one milion prize pool was divided equally on every lan in the tour, fat would be far behind voo. but luckly for him it wasnt, and he won against best player. fluke, nothing more."

Its not uncommon to leave the biggest prize purse for the biggest events.
It was no fluke FAT won the final, its due to him being more expereienced in those high level situations. Most of the other stops were uncovered events followed by a few hundred people on the stream, the finals were many times more demanding than those other stops you keep trying to make a big deal out of.

Like I said, there is reason the finals had 250k instead of 50k.
They required the players to play under professional circumstances, the other stops were VERY low level affairs.

Any pro in anything will tell you performing at the events that really counts is what really matters.

so basiclly, bigger prize money, means you need more skill to win it? OK CHAMP

lets gather all the bullshit you said:

- fat bestest pk player because he won one match,
- voo lucky because cpl used pk, not d3[in which fat would be owned by rocketboy],
- 1game is more important than 12 months of domination,
- you're ignoring your own words about rapha,
- bigger prize = more skills needed to win.

you're passing human limits in being stupid.

LOL so much time spent supporting such a pointless argument - you just removed all doubt (and I was continuing to hold out a bit of hope) that you're just a basement-dwelling troll with no life, no job, and a serious case of misplaced bitterness.

WTF are you doing with your life if this is how you spend your time!?

Also, TL;DR - learn to compose a concise message.

incoming basement rage

cpl gave voo the title of pk champion. It's not a conjecture.

the only bad type of attention whores are fat attention whores. It happens to apply both to jamerio and to fatality.

"cpl gave voo the title of pk champion. It's not a conjecture."

Vo0 only won that award because...

A) The importance of the events were not factored in, clearly an event with a 250k purse is arguably worth more than one with a 50k purse.
But it was regarded the same. 5 times the purse, why not 5 times the points?

B) Vo0 had a big advantage going into the start of the CPL WT as FAT did at the final (fat was always playing catchup).
Vo0 probably lost the final because the environment was simply beyond anything he had played in before. FAT won it because even if< he was a worse player, his experience of that environment was already well versed.

Both<< players suffered and excelled on prior expereince, the only difference is, the MVP award suited vo0's circumstances more than fat.

How does that change what I wrote?

cpl gave voo the title of pk champion. It's not a conjecture.

Logic pls.

he lost only 50k, as second place prize was 100k

e: actually voo lost only 30k, as he got MVP award.

streaming LoL

You high brah?!

I'm trying to be the adult here.... but

GET REAL NUGGA!

C'mon!

Because...Vo0 is better?

i would think someone like fatal1ty would have a lot more followers, but he doesn't.

People nowadays just don't know him. A guy from my school (who calls himself an FPS beast 'cause he's played CoD...) said "feta-who?" when I mentioned him. If you weren't around in 2000-2006, chances are you have no idea who he is.

2008, i'd say
his gear made it into the hands of a lot of css kiddies ;p

Couldn't say, but people only know his hardware then, if that. No one knows who the guy is or what he played :p

But yeah, that guy I mentioned didn't even know about the CPL World Tour 2005. So maybe he was just a bad example. Neanderthal.

I can imagine what a "beast" he is. :>

Go Sander!!!

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cpm plox

thread is dangerously close to a complete Jamerio hijack -- but somehow the original intention survived, bloodied&bruised but still standing.
(pardon my mixed metaphors)

the truth is, 'murica gamers best gamers and you can't deny, according to Jammy

You are now an accomplice in the hijack :/ All good skulp -- I've talked to you in the twitch chat enough to know what you mean.

But when I innocently began reading this thread, I never saw Jamerio coming -- kinda like an ESR shark, murky and grey, then surprisingly in your face from out of nowhere. Although I agree with 'quake is potat' (and my earlier point): Jamerio seems a little off and not as 'coherent'(potat's word) as usual in sustaining his strike and picking opportunities to bite :)

ehehe :)

that's what i was thinking lately as well. jam jam seems a little bit off his game.

whoa...take a look at all the 7/10 Jamerio/hitsu posts -- seems he's back in shape again. Lower JamCon back to Level 5.

Back on point, I second mouse* in recommending Vo0's stream. His play is very instructional and at moments, entertaining in that quick-witted Sander fashion.

In this stream Vo0 plays a few with NA Faceit teen phenomenon Apparition. I laughed when Apparition complained about losing(by 7 frags) despite only doing 100 less net dmg. I guess the more important stat App overlooked -- item control -- and Vo0's audible timing and sick item control shows how little overall dmg means[except in Cypher's case].

Although Vo0 does enjoy a well-earned luxury of near-flawless movement, directional awareness and second-nature battle instincts -- to free up his brain cycles to almost completely focus on item timing. Fair to say his ql duel streams are basically running item-timed routes with a little fighting in between. Vo0con2013!

Honestly, why do so many people go on and on about Apparition? He's a 14 year old kid. He's always going to continue to act the way he does as long as people don't shut up about him.

Mage I was just using what App said to further my point about how dominant Vo0 times items. Even on ztn, Apparition's apparent place of cyberbirth, Vo0 owned the item route and never focused on his percentages or dmg output. Quite a contrast of approaches to duel strategy.

voo did admit hes an itemwhore :D

I just wish he would fuckin stop yelling.

switch to cpm once quakecon is over, vo0
i want to see how your skills compare to the current scene :)

amazing game. It's a sad paradox that promode prolly has the highest jaw-drop-potential in all of gaming, but the skill required to play it at a reasonable level is so ridiculously high that nobody plays it.

Lol

not at all

nobody plays it cos a) it's hard to install, b) community has a bad fame (actually it's good), cpm has a bad fame cos fox pwned some newbs, d) nobody wants to appear in next hal_9000's movie.

The skill level required to play cpm isn't really high once you developed certain mechanical skills such as the tricky movement but there are some players who push it to the limit... I've seen things you people wouldn't believe... flickshots on aerowalk while stairjumping, mindblowing item control, showtime midairs, just play more promode

cpm has never had a bad community, that's always been bullshit. some of the nicest gamers i ever met were on cpm servers.

i agree, it's not the most difficult thing out there, but if you're only average/okay at q3/ql, it's probably going to be too overwhelming for you.

It didn't catch on because the casuals refused to come over, lack of quality maps, and lack of $upport.

nobody plays it today because ql is so much easier to setup and because ql has developer support.


it sure is beautiful tho

ql and developer support, hah :D

but if you're only average/okay at q3/ql, it's probably going to be too overwhelming for you.

its because of movement, rest is pretty easy to get a grip on.

ql doesn't get support?

quakecon
servers(this is huge)
updates
new maps
new gamemodes

it seems like it's supported to me ;p

yeah exactly, I was average at q3 and just couldn't get the hang of the movement sadly.

i played like shit : (

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eyX5pdHd_Y&am...XhbWHwVDAd


the main difference is that the previous one is a cup game, and this was a practice game, he's more brofessional : D

really dunno where the reputation comes from, the cpm crowd is far better than the qlers. the thing is you get raped when you start ql but you get wrecked a new asshole when you start cpm.

osp fanboys started the cpmers are snobs movement, lol. trust me, cpmers were not the ones saying they were better. check old threads if you don't believe me. cpm would have done a lot better in europe if those osp assholes didn't stir up so much shit :/

cpm is extremely different than q3/ql, almost polar opposites
you can't prove one is better than the other, it all comes down to preference. anyways, there's only one way to find out which you prefer, and that's to try them both out.

*cpm 1v1 = 40% movement 30% aim 30%position
ql 1v1 = 45% position 45% aim %10 movement(tdm/ctf will have different percentages in each game)

generally speaking
cpm=+for
ql=+back

*numbers pulled out of my ass, but i believe they're not far off from the truth.

all legit but the q3/ql=+back shit ain't true yo!

i didn't say it was always +back or cpm was always +forward.
it's just that you will be doing more of that in each game.
apologies for not explaining that part better

A self-aware CPMer, quite a rare breed. You make some good points bruv.

tbh lately the scene is getting competitive, if you added vo0 would be pretty interesting...

Would love to make some kinda showmatch at some point, when the time is right.

Who are top 2 atm?

that would be sweet!

usually gaiia and hal9000, but memphis and lunokhod aren't far behind.

links for the last cpm tourney below

http://www.esreality.com/post/2436688/re-13th...pid2436688

http://challonge.com/cpmduel13

Lunokhod lost to me when i got back and played one tourney from such a long time of not playing cpm, I doubt he's top material?

someone told me he was near the top recently, so i took their word for it because i couldn't find recent footage from his pov. well, i just did a search and found recent footage of him and he does seems to be QUITE a bit behind hal and gaiia in skill. :/

looks like a 5 mapper between hal and gaiia is all that's necessary, zoot :)

Sounds ideal, it isn't anything that'll come super soon - just something I want to plan at some point :)

wow says the dude who was never top 10 or 20 material in cpm : |

So obviously he ain't top material?

gaiia vs hal would be the best option but there are plenty cool duelers atm

I totally raped gaiia in QL on hektik.

Wait sorry it was the other way round.

Great guy though, one of the most pleasant rapes ever.

Managed to win 2 Toxicity against him. \(: D)/

Really nice guy imo.

When all else fails, use rail! :D

yes, you can instant switch rail, but you have to be smart when you do it or else this can happen.




weapon decisions are just as important in cpm as they are in vq3/ql, it completely baffles me that some people today still can't see that.

Heh, it was mostly a joke, but let me explain anyway; it seems that rails hit no matter how crazy an angle you take or where you seem to shoot it in the near vicinity of your opponent. Rockets and lightning didn't work too well, but he hit every single shit-let-me-change-weapons-rail that he fired :p

gaiia got those shots off because he used smart positioning, mind games, and some cpma mechanics(quickfire bind/no footsteps).
it's not too difficult to pull off certain rail combos in cpma, but to be as proficient at them as gaiia/hal9000 are is very difficult.
if you don't believe me, you can always msg them on irc and ask them for a game.

I don't doubt their skills and the difficulty in what they do, it was, as I said, meant as a joke because gaiia seemed to miss easy (easier) shots and then nail those railshots. In no universe can I challenge these guys :)

Does this stream appear in the live stream box on the top right of ESR?

Yes

yeah!

Vo0, can you upload your config? It looks very clear and amazing.

If anyone else knows what graphics he's using, feel free to post it.

Uploaded it to my twitter.

Thanks. Loving the graphics.

Voohoo!!


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sandrot ebaniy

i think it's time to ban the user Jamerio realy. it is getting beyong any limits.

-Sphex.

But this is the only thing that keeps him going.

Joking aside, I honestly think it is the only thing. His reason to get up etc.

voogamer: i will be streaming some quake live after the grand finals if anyone interested

he will stream cpm after qcon too :)) my life finally makes sense again

very profound analysis with all those philosophical digressions this early morning, very peculiar insight. The cam on you guys make the experience that match better, i could really feel the poetic majesty of the moment by your expressions.

I'll never look at drunken dm17 only rockets with the same eyes. Laughed my ass off.

The first game i saw was soooo fun too :D, some Cure vs Carnage.

Quality stream, followed, and I suggest you nerds to do it too.

You forgot spacecamp and fiend passing out but agreed the stream made my day. The dismemberment analysis was terrific!

Vo0 seems to be a really nice guy also his stream is fun to watch :D

I have to add to the rest of the comments above, watching voo steam is an absolute pleasure. Guy is cool as fuck, awesome insights, timing is impeccable.

Big ups voo, good to see you back.