quake is dead

eat my balls

correction: quake live is dead

more alive than ever?

wake up please this is not 2009

quake was dead in 2009 too

Everyone who says Quake is dead should google (if even possible) some old news posts when Thresh, Shub, Blue, Makavelli (+100 others) officially either quit or said they would.

We are now in the summer of 2013 and you can still play many of the different Quake versions in competitive mode or just public. It's not the same perhaps, and it might get better or worse. However, you can't say Quake is dead.

its not the same mang, cypher is cypher :(

Stop the suffering, accept what is.

stop the cyphering, accept what it is.

+ after 3 years :P

Too bad id can't make a good multiplayer arena fps game anymore.

Please, cypher, don't leave!





















Cu in a month.

or two

"Cum in a mouth"

- What? O_o
Cypher's fan? ))))))

because evil and strenx can beat him? that's kinda weak

he hasnt trained properly for how long now

Oh no :( First Av3k now Cypher?

they play all CSGO with INS & the other *french/eng* guy :D
http://www.twitch.tv/theamazingins/profile

VOD's deleted !

replying to a 3 year old comment i like ur style

Ooooop's :) , but i'am still right, they played all together ...

kinda too late tbh

Hope he will rethink his decision. Might not be doing as well atm as he feels he should, but he still is the overall best and most entertaining quake 3/ quakelive player Ive ever seen during all those long years. Just wont feel the same without this kid.

If Cooller and Av3k rethought this decision, then Cypher will probably do the same thing, but again it only takes time to do it

Cypher is a whiny little bitch. But he'll be back.

everyone that leaves teh quake is a whiny bitch amirite

Everyone who loses, rages then says he quit is a whiny little bitch.

http://www.esreality.com/post/2441517/#pid2441517

Can't think of any long time quake player who hasn't at least said that 5 times.

I never said it. :>

true

Ehum.. :)

lol :DDDDDDD

ahum...

Never said I'd quit. I actually said I think if quake is still around when I'm 60 I will still be playing it. 'Quitting' what is a hobby, or a passion, is just dumb in my opinion.

It's like I'd go saying 'hey im quitting playing guitar'... I'm never going to stop playing guitar, or listening to guitarists, or whatever. I might get less good or play less, but why would anyone say he'd 'quit' it is beyond my comprehension.

Riding PURRI's coat tails for plusses. Oh, dem0n... not you. NOT YOU!

Because when you're emotional right after a painful loss u can say stupid shit like 'fuck this, I quit'. But ofcourse when you're calm u take it back. That's what I meant. I imagined everyone would have experienced this, I know a lot of players have.

You think he left because of his loss against strenx in 125fps, or was there an other big match?

I think he was still emotional from this match yes.

Well he does have the emotional range of a teaspoon.

Difficult if youve been a pro, just playing casually you will just be a subpar player, which is not something you want to be when you have been among the elite once.

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hope he'll be back soon, again: the best player ever on his best shape.

wouldn't happen on LAN (c) Cypher

If they keep retiring like this Demon will make top 8 for sure.

dark times ahead :D

reminder: demon never made it out of group stage in a LAN

http://www.quakehistory.com/en/tournaments/0,107

oh forgot about that one. but prior to that, he really never made it out of a group-stage.

http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=2059416

in before "oh yeah and that too, but except those two..."

After that I'm out of resources I'm afraid.

my bad, sorry

i remember reading it somewhere, must have been a bad source!

its true I still need a good lan result... I started dueling in 2010 and I just didnt have the experience or the proper duel skills/mechanisms to make any result when you had players such as cypher, cooller, stermy, strenx, rapha, avek and whatnot playing. I've attended a lot of lans with 16 players and I was hardly a top 16 contender back then :)

yeah, that makes sense. you played a lot of lans when ql was at its prime.

well, but doesnt matter, nowadays you are in top 5, or almost at it. and cooller, strenx, cypher (rip) still play!

Naaah I cant say I'm top 5. I'd rather say I *might* upset here and there much more than I did before. You have absolute beasts with a ton of experience like cooller, cypher, rapha, dahang, strenx, killsen, evil... and then players that are more in my division like p0ni, guard, fazz, toxjq, pavel, baksteen, eventhough I put pavel in 'my' division in that he has never really shown anything on lan either except for incredibly close matches vs top players such as cypher (aka adroits).

Well, just wish we had more lans, because I'm eager to pursue my progression and see how I can perform on lan now that I think the experience started to kick in. Usually I'd go to a lan beeing thankful I was there in the first place. Now I slowly started to consider winning any game and any matchup !

from what i remember from 1-2 years ago, you used to play like a bit like rapha. but now your combat-skills exploded and it shows in your confidence. and you tweaked your playstyle accordingly.

yea go for it dude, its great seeing you play every time :)

drop mousewheel weapon switch and gg :))

Lol so true =D, it did actually fuck him up in an important game.

it has been, more than once lol. there are some situations in which you just can't reply with such weapon bindset.

Fuck demon making top 8, you might make tier 4.

that's crazy talk

what's with the flag, fool?

state of QL:

CTF: dead for years
TDM: died out recently
CA: LOL... skill please?
DUEL: dying out now

other games:

Shootmania: not statisfying
Warsow: not enough players
James Harding's Reborn: not gonna happen
LOL: alive
SC2: alive
CS:GO: alive

What about TF2? It is actually the most played game in the fast paced fps category.

tf2 is cazhuel

TF2 is not fast paced

http://youtu.be/DnntfjR_-oE

Fast paced for one of the ten thousand classes in the game.

theres 9

That's still not any faster than quake, and after that one spree there will be at least 2-3 brainless minutes without any fighting at all.

you said its not fast-pacec, now you are resorting to "its not faster than quake"

lol lacking coherence a bit, arent we? :)

You cherry picked one clip of tf2 at its fastest, that doesn't make it a fast paced game.
You don't seem to play the game so I thought I would explain it to you

TF2 is a fast paced fps. It doesn't matter if you don't rate it fast paced enough.

No it isn't, most of the game is spent sitting around waiting for uber.

lol. you never got above div4, yet you played so many seasons on etf2l.

thats just sad.

Our team wasn't very serious when playing and I've never claimed to be good at tf2.

Just because the guy in the video jumped around in the same spot shooting ppl who where slowly running (all in motion blur to make it seem faster) doesnt make the actual game fast

most comp tf2 matches (or maybe it was maps, can't remember) in NA last like +40 minutes back when I watched it. That's not fast-paced. And like somebody else said, a lot of the time it's just both teams spamming a choke point waiting for uber.

After CPM DeFRaG and Quakeworld, everything is slow as shit.

You mean the most played game in the hat simulator category.

Yes, Quake need more hats.

Apparently your either talking about NA or EU but i mostly bet your talking about NA atm because that's where it's really dying

No QW option?

you could feel it coming, a shame he did it before quakecon and dreamhack winter
and after his comments about not coming back like cooller, his pride won't let him come back even if he wants to

thanks for the great games and good luck in the future

it's only joke, why u heff to be mad?

Crypher will be back when his tantrum is over.

quake is so dead that last sunday faceit pulled more viewers than most of the quake live lans did.

Sigh. I know Cypher has been catching shit from the public lately (and with good reason) but having one of the best players retire isn't exactly a good thing.

I hope he just said it due to emotions.

Let's be honest... nobody quits Quake. :D

People have been saying Quake is dead since 1998. RIP indeed.
Cypher will be back. ᕦ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ᕤ

Would say that quake is pretty alive now with faceit,zoot etc. Mayby not "OSP eurocup 3" alive but still ...feels more alive then a year or two ago imo :)

Edit: Mayby im more alive ....oh well

dont care, he'll be back soon anyway

sadly for quake, the thing that hold players on this game are long time gone: and i mean lan money.


however, qlr is fine example of how a guy can comeback and start to enjoy the game again after some time :-)



anyway: gl in your future life Cypher :-)

still lol

this is duel

Aero is boring unless you're watching czm or walter

it was more fun to watch in q3 than in ql. The spawn system destroys the pace and match quality a lot.

That's probably true for most if not all maps. ZTN was a lot faster in q3 too.

I honestly haven't enjoyed watching any tourneys for the most part.... Until Evil :D

looks like an emotional decision more than a calmly thought one. He is still very young he will come back in 3 months max.

How do you quit quake? :/

If you played quake regularly for at least two years, what happens is you quit for a couple of months, maybe years, then inevitably come back.

Z4 did

and now he plays again :-)

Dota 2 i super fun I recommend it :>

my assumption is that he didnt get a sponsor for quakecon, hence hes quitting.

oh and cypher is quite stubborn, dont think he will return (sadly)

Insanely talented player, not the best mindset tho. You will be missed till you comeback <3

this tweet is on par as bad as infamous cooller retirement interview on some russian website. at least make a proper statement. there are many fans and people wishing him well around. me included.

Why quit now? Dreamhack has $$$$ quit after that duh

This just in: rapha wins qcon 2013.

cough evil cough

oops

agreed tho i wouldn't really count out cooller considering how he has been playing recently. : )

edit:
actually evil, rapha, cooller, strenx are the players to beat this year

if cooller finally wins an inational lan in the last days of ql everyones gonna shit. tbh, if rapha gets evil on his side of bracket, it's doable for cooller, since he can win evil

Cooller did win lan in Kiev. He played av3k in superfinal.

ye my bad. not international lan, but a global lan (i.e. where all the best competition is present)

cough lan cough

cough dhw 2012 cough

cough that's just one cough

cough it's enough and evil recently beat rapha online as well prrrrrrrrrrrrt

cough if one is enough what that makes rapha or cypher and online means nothing prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt

This just in: rapha wins quitarherocon 2013

fixed that for you

av3k motherfucker, do you know him?









ok, that was bad idea

Thought they are going to play guitar hero at qcon instead of quake

Wow guys, "c u in a month"? "he'll be back" ? Like someone said only thing you causing with this is that he wouldn't come back even if he wants to just because of your bashing and sarcastic comments. Lets show some respect for the belarusian please.

For my part he's my favorite Quake Live player and i'd say this is a very sad day for quake. I really would have liked to see him in a LAN for the last time, lets say Quakecon 2013. But its pretty obvious that hes very tired and looks like he lost motivation even for that, so yea i hope he has success in his future projects and wish him the best on his life.




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Yeah I too fear that he would only come back if he sees the kind of love we gave avek, so:

CYPHER CYPHER CYPHER
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I'm kind of tired to see this "either you love me or I quit" attitude

Seriously either play the game you love and compete in it or leave.

i seem to be missing some key information here. who are u talking about?

how to love a game and company if they treat their players like shit

i can see why cypher left
http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/18090-QuakeC...ra_matters

R..............R...........R
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..R E H P Y C Y P H E R
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Too artistic to be plussed.

Apparently not.

I didn't [+] it.

You should have specified "by me", then :>

No specification required.

If you would understand russian and watced the Asus 2011 semi final, you would hate him.

Trust me d00d.

Why what did he say?

The year was 2011. The event was Asus. It was the semi final between Cypher and Ash. Cypher has always had nice LAN-etiqs, except for the Zadrot Ebaniy incident. Ash, who was the underdog was completely destroying him, first on hub then on ztn, hitting mad pixel rails and just outplaying him. Cypher started calling time-outs and just whining. I wish i had the VOD but it was on Own3d. The worst part is that he called Ash a noob basically, and said it was complete bullshit, basically behaving like a 12yo who's playing Quake the first time vs 2000elo CA ppl.

The worst part was that he insulted Ash, and called time-outs for no reason.

yea cypher has a big ego, but he hides it well usually :(

No, he's terrible at hiding it. It almost looks like he acted way more mature when he was 16, now he's just a pompous kid with an attitude.

He's a killer player and definitely one of the most if not the most entertaining, energetic players in term of gameplay - his damage output is insane and he's always pulling off some crazy-ass shit never-seen-before clutch jumps and attacks.

That is slowly becoming less of an excuse and his recent (re)actions are becoming more and more obnoxious.

Exactly, most recently when he whined against Evil in russian during some faceit final, and the Renesaince final.

Getting called names in Quake? No wai. Calling timeouts for no reason? Evil says wut?

He called ash a noob, basically? Oh, well, I suppose you'd know, seeing as thats what you do with others as well. :-)

elaborate pls

Read my reply to Anon

Dear Cypher,

take a clan

I got this,

http://www.quakelive.com/#!clans/summary/181028

I should call it the clan for the retired lol

cmon the guy really has nothing to prove anymore.

a well timed retirement i must say, GL in the future C Y P H E R!

Retire while you're on top! =)

Damn shame, though. GLHF GGS

Rapha is the best. Sorry.

cypher was best before rapha, cypher was best after rapha.

deal with it.

Cypher was only the best in quake 3 when most of the other top players stopped playing quake 3 and there were hardly any tourneys for it.

When many of them came back for quakelive around 2009, it was Rapha who ultimately established himself as the new king of quake.

Rapha has won more titles and more money in quakelive than anyone.
He is the best.

Nothing to for me to deal with apart from being right as usual.

Boom!

you're left as usuall... fuckikng moron

English not your strong point is it :)

thinking isnt your is it?

You can't even write a basic sentence, it scares me to think how something like you would interpret someone of my intelligence.

I feel so superior to you.

feelings and reality are not same things. but you're known for your delusions, so i doubt you can spot the differance.


also, feel free to show how good your polish is.

"but you're known for your delusions"

Among the deluded yes. I take it as a compliment.

Why do I need/want to know Polish, this is an English speaking forum, the onus is one you to speak my language.

deluded? you're the only one whos deluded here.

even average dumbass esr user is able to see your madness, and lack of proper mental care. and these guys arent the sharpest knives in the drawer.



if you want to flame me for not being proficent enough in your native language, i want to see you speak polish. or any other language. otherwise you're a hypocrite.

My madness?

Yes, I'm clearly mad. Its so obvious. Obvious that you're so outmatched by me you're trying to play the crazy card because you can't compete on any platform, you know it and I know it. It won't work. I'm as sharp as a tack.

"if you want to flame me for not being proficent (if you want to use big words, spell them right ok) enough in your native language, i want to see you speak polish."

No, you came onto an English speaking forum, its your duty to write and understand how things are written. When I come onto a Polish speaking forum and try and debate in a language I am unqualified to do so, then you can mock me.

Until then, my willy is in your bum!!!

outmatched?

-you're not succesfull
-you got no bafta
-you didnt beat cooller

all your delusions. but you keep repeating them, because you belive it. id say its definition of mental illness


and why you skipped the most important part of my speech about language? are you not able to speak any foreign language? thats really sad.


ow, and considering you have no problems with understanding me, unqualified to speak english, id say you exaggerate it, just because you have no arguments, besides your illusions, and fake feeling of superiority.


but dont worry, i heard the meds are getting better and better.

oh wow :D

evil is the new king :P
(yaya, strenx beats him online, but i'd favor evil on lan)

that's insanely important, both of those pictures, with fraze on number 3 - which is clearly legit, while rapha having 1 challenger on his NA servers, ever. also - clearly legit. strenx is number 1 even though he never won a ql lan, but hey, you need brain to analyze those pictures, it's not that easy. don't feel bad.

the money earned is just a product of rapha having his best year when quakelive had the most tournaments by far. cooller's best years were 2003-2005, and he won as much as 2 major LANs over that period.

so it's more like _what is there to win_ when you can do it, rather than how much did you actually win. it's hard to get money when there are no tournaments.

i think rapha has 1 more title than cypher in ql, but cypher beat rapha like 4 times in a row now over the last couple of tournaments, and when cypher was out (3:2 evil) rapha got beaten even more (3:1 evil).

just to put things into perspective.

you were never ever right, and you will never ever be.

deal with it.

"the money earned is just a product of rapha having his best year when quakelive had the most tournaments by far."

HAHA! so you're blaming Rapha for being successful when the most money, pressure and tourneys were concerned?

Your laughable logic is there for all people to see, you'll clearly try and delude yourself and others to obtaining the point you want.

Cypher was around that time too, so he had every chance to win, and unlike Rapha, he has MUCH MORE tourney experience coming into quakelive.

Unlike Cypher, Rapha has not quit and will continue to win more money and tourneys. Not that he needs to becaue he has already won more of the things that count in quakelive than anyone.

Money and titles.

"the money earned is just a product of rapha having his best year when quakelive had the most tournaments by far."

HAHA! so you're blaming Rapha for being successful when the most money, pressure and tourneys were concerned?

again this shit, arguing with a high school dropout / below average iq person. as if i need to waste my energy on simplifying stuff for you. but whatever.

i'm not blaming anyone for being successful, i'm blaming circumstances for cypher being as much as 1 tournament short due to tournaments _not existing as much as they did_ when rapha won ONE more.

cypher was around for a lot more than rapha, so it's not really comparable if one loses motivation and the other one doesn't.

i have never met a person in my life who manages to be MORE WRONG about virtually anything than you.

My IQ is around 130 and I finished school because I was offered a job before I finished. If someone wanted to pay me money to play and design videogames its not my fault.

Now you're making excuses for Cypher losing motivation. Lol, the guy is like 23 years old and he's lost motivation!!!!

Whose fault is that.

So he won less times, he won less money and he's quit at 22/23?

Boom!
It just gets better!

your first sentence makes no sense.

i really doubt your iq is anything above 100 because you are illiterate, your logic is broken, your thought process is terribly flawed, and you never learn nothing from your own mistakes. those are characteristics of an idiot.

Now you're making excuses for Cypher losing motivation. Lol, the guy is like 23 years old and he's lost motivation!!!!

Whose fault is that.

i am making excuses? what the fuck do you care about someone losing motivation? how old is he supposed to be? he's been into professional gaming since god knows when, he attended like 5 million tournaments and now he doesn't get to lose motivation for a video game?

So he won less times, he won less money and he's quit at 22/23?

look, you fucking 80iq parasite. quakelive is not the first game cypher played. cypher won quake4 ESWC in 2006, beating toxic in the process, at the age of SIXTEEN. the guy was a champion in quake4, quake3, and quakelive. he has beaten everyone within the last month or so, it's not like he quits cause he can't win. if he doesn't enjoy the game at this moment, then that's it.

that 5k difference between him and rapha is crucial only in your heavily limited brain.

i feel like i'm talking to a chimp. that's how i feel.

Rapha's better and you lost.

that's probably why cypher won every single one of their last matchups.

the dishes. go.

That has nothing to do with it.

Rapha won more and won more money and will continue to win more, while cypher will be a nobody and come back in 6 months with his tail between his legs like Cooller.

i'm thinking about pulling the plug with transferring facts into your limited brain. Won more and won more money and won more and more and...

i don't know if i can do this.

i have no medical expertise.

Sometimes its better to cut your losses and run.

cut my losses?

is that the thanks i get for actually having conversation with someone so ignorant?

fucking hell

Trying to argue with Jamerio? Dude, you registered in 2002, but you've got a long way to go. :>

talking with this brit retard is just matter of know how :-)

less than 5 posts, and he decided not to anwser anymore. as always. so ez.

Nothing beats cg_teamChatsOnly 1 in terms of effectiveness.

but then you cant flameeeeeeeeeeeeee :<

Flaming is childish. I find it more and more of a wasted time dealing with such things.

Otherwise, there's a proverb for this situation: don't argue with idiots, because you will find yourself at their level and they'll make short work of you with their routine.

ow cmon, flame is funneh :D

Nah. It's just pointless and boring.

cypher won rapha alot tho, even more than rapha won him, pretty sure

qlrank elo means nothing you dope

TBH those stats show that he wasn't that much behind Rapha, only $5k which isn't much considering 3rd is 40k under him. Personally i thought Rapha won much more than him

Nice rage post anyways

Still behind though isn't he which is the point here.
Saying someone is better than someone whose won more money and titles than you in the game in question is just deluded.

Quakecon 2013 champ Rapha, Cypher didn't even bother turning up.
Where's your god now! (cheering on the champ via the internet)

So that's more majors and more money won. Even though he had that accolade before.

Jamerio: What's that intoxicating scent you're wearing Lethe?
Lethe: Delusion by Calvin Klein.
Jamerio:That shit smells good dawg.

i'm happy you are forced to find joy in someone elses success even though your arguments are a bit out of touch with reality.

I find no personal joy in rapha's success.

I simply pointed out he was the most successful quakelive player both financially and title wise after you kept insisting Cypher was.

i'm pretty sure cypher won more money out of quake titles than rapha.

why cypher wasn't at qcon? "didn't bother turning up"?

Rapha won more money and titles too.

bored with life again?

You know full well I was referring to quakelive of which Rapha has won more and has been the version of choice for well over 3 years.

- i'm pretty sure cypher won more money out of quake titles than rapha.

- Rapha won more money and titles too.

your reading skills. another thing you suck at.

Oh for fuck's sake, it seems you want to argue semantics here. *sigh*

Being a top division player is not enough? Cypher has won matches against Rapha, Rapha versus Cypher, Strenx won and lost against either of the two, so has Cooller and the other players have as well.

He's on top of his game. Sure, you could argue that his standard has fallen over the years, and you'd have strong argument there; however, he's not barely winning against mid-level duelers on a regular basis- he's still more than able not only to compete, but to place at the top level events; his level will fluctuate over time, as will anyone else's. Don't forget that human beings are unable to consistently reach a 100% efficiency in practically anything they do, much less so when some ridiculous constraints are placed upon them- hit 90% RG more frequently than the other guy, maybe hit 40% LG on more maps than the other guy, have more impressive combo- and air-rockets than the other guy and so on.

My point being, we are effectively comparing oranges and staplers here, when certain constraints are enforced we will inevitably end up with one result, while we will with a contrary one once the parameters to compare with are changed there. Surely being top 8 is being on the top, here in QL; the greatly subjective discourse of "My dad can beat your dad" will not get our discussion anywhere. He's as on top right now as is Rapha or Cooller, because Quake is not a perfectly balanced and just system (hell, even single-weapon, single-map, single-location plays aren't), luck and chance are just as integral as mechanical skill and cognitive ability; there's no control parameter or environment to measure skill objectively, nor is there a even scale to facilitate that... In the end, our own personal opinions will pick a subjective champion, and if we manage to convince someone else to our point of view, it will be a nice bonus to reward us for our time. It all comes down to which cherry we decide to pick, in order to point out flaws or brilliance of our subject to support our personal view.

I'm happy for him that he's retiring before he's in the colloquial gutter, that's being on top as far as I'm concerned. As an example outside of Quake, take Sebastien Loeb- he's retiring after achieving 9 consecutive World Rally Champion titles; Ogier is faster than him, Hirvonen is more consistent than him, Sordo will give a more than a run for his money on the black stuff and Latvala likewise on the loose; but sure, he's won and lost in an unstable environment where the next competitor will either have a very clear advantage or disadvantage than the previous depending on conditions, not even mentioning factors like having a shit day or not being able to focus; it compares to QL in that there's always a winner and a loser, and sometimes, only skill is not enough, not that you can measure or compare it with anything anyway, and the "you're only as good as your last tournament" sentiment is wrong from the get-go due to that very reason. Also, there's always the right cherry and the wrong cherry to reflect our perception of reality somewhere in there, too.

Don't take this as some shrink "two opposing viewpoints can coexist together" bullshit; I'm just trying to take this to a more objective and less opinionated direction, as well as explaining my genuine opinion.

Oh, and as much as I love Cypher, I'm a hardcore Rapha fanboy, a thousand times over, and that's a very fair estimate. Still though, I stand by my previous statement. Hope you don't take in my post in the wrong light.

good luck to him in the future, I think he's finishing school so I hope he graduates and gets a job in his career field, and just focus on what makes him happy.

sad

zzZZ

time for real life
nobody will take care in 10 years about some pro in a computer game.
time to show his skills in r e a l l i f e
and yes, you can only choose between real life and quake at this level

Hes as mature as a 12 year old.

Good riddance

why hate bro?

the best player ever to play a quake series game quits?


fuck you cypher.





see you at quakecon.

<3

good.

one player announces retirement all the quakeisdeadomgretards crawling out of their holes again. same shit different day. anyway they all come back. hope the reasons for your retirement are positive rather than involuntarily. thanks for the good times and take care mate. <3

This has never happened before.

What else is he going to do, lubricate donkey vaginas in the armpit of europe?

He'll be playing for chump change with all the rest of them before you know it.

I can feel it.

I'd imagine continue his education like he has been doing and then get a job.

why rub it in the face

Anytime your little eastern european ass wants to post a cash video to see whose go the most money you just let me know and we'll see whose face gets rubbed in what.

35 year old posting pictures of "money" and videos of "money" while clearly having no job and no income makes my teeth grind a bit, but then i just burst out laughing and it makes me feel warm and fuzzy on the inside. whenever you're ready, continue.

I didn't think you would and you're nearly 30 mate, why do you keep trying to play the age card, do you still see yourself as a little child and a few weeks ago I was 33, what is going on!

If I don't have a job or any income, then why are you the one backing out in public on a financial challenge?

You seemed happy to try and attack me when it came to saying I had no cash. I'm happy to to counter that if you are.

Your bluff has just been called and as usual you've backed out in public.

Haha, you're just a broke ass bum in eastern europe.
And don't you ever forget that.

Either accept the "flash your cash" challenge or go away.

Readers don't want to see your empty words. They want to see you getting shit on by me.

You got shit on good and proper.

you didn't think i would what? post a picture of money on the internet and edit with a text saying "for esreality from lethe"? see, that's how retarded you are. of course i'm not gonna embarrass myself by doing something so ridiculous, that's your job. to entertain us with your sad existence.

i'm not even attacking you, i'm just stating the obvious. you failed at life. if you had 100k at the age of 20, then you handle money pretty bad. turning off your xbox at 2300 every day just so your brother doesn't kick you out. a dream come true. and i must add that i don't even know if you live with your brother or not, that's just something you wrote on another forum where your ass was handed to you, and knowing you're a pathological liar i'm not sure if i can accept that as a fact or not.

wait, i'm gonna take a photo for you.

Avoiding the challenge then?

I thought so. I liked the bit where you pretended you're not doing it to avoid embarrassing yourself. When you're nearly 30 and spend all day bitching on a game forum.

That was really convincing. Along with you refusing to show anyone what you do as a job/education in real life. I can't imagine why.
Yet you still talk like you have both!

You are so easy to dominate and pick apart for others to see.
It amuses me very much.

Avoiding the challenge then?

what challenge?

I liked the bit where you pretended you're not doing it to avoid embarrassing yourself. When you're nearly 30 and spend all day bitching on a game forum.

says the guy who actually DID spend 10 years impersonating someone else while posting on game forums. shows how high you value yourself. project on.

That was really convincing. Along with you refusing to show anyone what you do as a job/education in real life. I can't imagine why.
Yet you still talk like you have both!

i've said it many many times already, yet you still want me to repeat. i don't even know what is it exactly you wish.

You are so easy to dominate and pick apart for others to see.
It amuses me very much.


of course. that why every argument we ever had here ended in you getting ridiculed to death. you never learn, but that's cause this role of clown you pursue is your curse. you can't let go, you can just keep getting slapped.

i hope you enjoy the picture of my cash, you poor gaming degenerate.

I didn't impersonate anyone, you're just mentally ill and its a comping mechanism for you to deal with the one aspect of life you previously felt comfy in.

You keep talking about other peoples fiancial and professional status.

But you avoid all "flash the cash" and you won't show the world what you do professionally or what you claims of education are.

You're very easy to dispose of.

i showed the picture same as you did, you 35 year old parasite. with the difference of i have more money than you. but that's not so relevant now. what is relevant is that you are a walking education commercial.

and this makes you look like a poor gaming degenerate every single time.

now you can go wash some dishes or do your brothers laundry, be at least of some use to the guy.

It wasn't the same. Mine was a video, and it was in a plus formation for the ESR plus.

If you want to agree, we'll select a shape the money has to be posted in and post to show its genuine.

how does that link make me look a degenerate?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1844015/ (was it not what you expeted :P)

Anytime you want to accept the flash the cash challenge let me know.
Or you can keep folding in front of the readers :)

Top Dog.

and what's in it for me? to provide amusement for a lifeless nerd who spent his life proving his achievements on different gaming forums? i have never seen a video of you holding cash or whatever, and i know how you look like. posting images of money is pointless, but we both know that you have enough time to do whatever shit it is.

click the news articles, you'll see what that guy actually does. he writes for screenrant.

god you're hopeless.

Haha, keep on making excuses :)

You don't want to post it cos you're broke.
You're broke because you have no job, talent or ability.

Everything else is just an attempt at deflecting reality.

I called your bluff and you folded, you do it all the time.

You 're such a failure you won't even share anything about your real life with the readers, that is how dis attached and real you are.

You are no mystery to me.

i am making excuses?

it's 10 years and counting since you've been asked to show stuff.

how dare you bore me with that shit?

as i said - the dishes. just go.

i'm finding comfort in the fact you're never gonna procreate.

I'm just glad I pissed you off enough to think about my sex life.

actually, you make me feel better about myself, even when i don't feel so good. like.... much better.

the moment when you turn around and see what you accomplished with your life... priceless.

I make you feel better, that why you accuse me of lying of who I am?
Snigger.

it's not exactly my fault you linked an imdb profile of a guy who worked on videogames, worked in hollywood, and did a years work of movie writing for screenrant. and point to the videogames section.

Its not my fault you do not believe me.
Your coping mechanism is amusing though.

That and your refusal to share anything with the world about you shows exactly how fragile you are.

I don't blame you, if you blow it on the internet, you have nowhere to go do you.

People like you do not fool me, I enter your online escapes and tear it apart. For my own amusement.

well, one of feels so bad about himself he's spent 10 years "proving" stuff without actual proof, over various websites.

the other feels good about himself and sometimes finds fun in this kind of struggles.

one of us desperately pulled the online escape card.

the other pisses all over this pathetic fantasy whenever he feels like it, and enjoys his life.

I don't feel bad about myself, I am simply replying to people like you who feel badly for themselves that when you heard an aspect of my life that made you feel a gaming failure you choose to try and deny it.

Like I said, you share nothing with the world about you.

I know exactly what you are. You're furious that despite your best efforts I still see through you, and your continued to refusal to show us anything about your life only confirms what I say about you.

You're just a random internet troll who has so little in his life saying nothing about himself is actually a positive.

When you can share something about you with the world that other people can look at, then we'll talk. You share so little there is nothing to even deny.

Your one sided investment does not fool me.

In real life I could just give you a little jab to the head, put you in check, but online, I just choose to humiliating you and telling everyone you share nothing.

Fun game.

you know nothing about me, and everything you think you know about me is just bullshit you convinced yourself in in order to make your failure feel better. and that's it. you say it yourself - i shared nothing. well in that case, you hardly know anything, you pathetic welsh gimp. project on.

spending 10 years on this site alone to defend your online reality is just the online escape you desperately try to talk about. every time you say "online escape" is basically pissing in your own mouth. cause that is ALL you do. an online escape. 10 years and counting of your sad online escape.

20000+ posts on this site alone talking shit about a story that has changed 20 times already, and that noone cares about. that's what you call....

wait for it...


AN ONLINE ESCAPE.


all these posts trying to defend a sad virtual reality you created for yourself point to health problems. you're a fat (picture), old (fact), failed at life (self admitted) chav, with no perspective whatsoever (say hi to your brother). you even manage to call other people gaming degenerates, when actually you celebrate losses as achievements in every game you ever played (facts, esr archive).

i have no motive to prove anything to you, and you'll need to deal with that. i've said it already, there are people on esr who know me outside of esr, so my education, job, life, whatever, well... it's not really a mystery. i can point you to those so feel free to ask whatever you wish.

now, after dealing with that >

on the other hand, i asked you to show me your rare contract, that is, a piece of paper expired 250 years ago, which now has a value of a glass holder. you folded. you know why, and i know why. posting pictures with a cloud of text is not even worth mentioning.

honestly, the part about a jab to the head irl is probably the part which made me feel sorry for you the most. i've seen your picture jamie, and that's just... i don't know. just don't go there.... that could be even worse than the rare contract and renault 5 ebay fail, or the depression incident with the esr view counter. think again, please.

"you know nothing about me,"

That's because you share nothing, the fact that you share nothing and write thousands of words about me, tells me everything I need to know about you.

The fact that you think averaging 5 posts a day on a website is all I do, when doing that would take less time and investment in one of those 10 minute duels mopes you lock yourself in day in day out for hours at an end only amuses me further.

Remember you're the one hiding behind a cloak of anonymity like the coward you and so many losers on this site are.

Like I said, you don't fool me. the most basic form of human interaction evades you, you're just another coward troll on a gaming site living out some split personality.

You prove this continually by avoiding any link to the real you.

All I gotta do is keep exposing this. You seem to pride yourself on having a self convincing answer for everything, but asking you the most basic question about who you are what do you do so the world can see terrifies you into submission every time.

People like you only play games because its a natural branch you hit as you tumble from real life.

you need to read my post again, slowly. pm me whatever you need to know and i'll have PEOPLE confirm, rather than word of mouth. that beats your online escape, by a KO.


also, 5 post a day? that's reduced since the last time you tried to calculate that.

also, multiply the actual number of posts per day with the average number of lines in your post, and then you can shove your online escape up your perspectiveless ass.

No need for word of mouth. Why all the secrecy.

Just show us all a bit about your education and career, its quite a simple question that people ask, and one you seem quite obsessed with when it comes to others.

I joined this site since 2002, since then about 21,000 posts over a 11+ year period.

It doesn't take long to type out a reply, like I said, nowhere near as long as 1 single 10 minute duel. That would burn off way more effort.

I got plenty of perspective, look at what I'm doing to you?
Exposing your flawed logic about me posting on a site, only cos you want me to leave, you know why I don't, because I enjoy getting under peoples skin like yours while I'm immune to your presence :)

Its a sign of power and dominance more than anything else.

i don't know what you're exactly doing to me, i asked something, you dodge, it goes around, then you decide that you want to ask me questions, then i laugh, cause you don't get to ask nothing till you show your rare contract, or whatever. then you don't want to and so on and so on. we both know you're full of shit, and your life since well... joining this site just proves that i'm right.

and yeah, i agree on no need for personal word of mouth, cause that means nothing. we should agree that the stories should be confirmed by a third person, at least. got anyone?

didn't think so.

and being a proven pathological liar, that's a huge problem for you.

as i said, i need to go now.

You have not proven me as a pathological liar at all.

Like I said, this is all part of your tactic, hiding behind an alias and calling people names, there is no accountability for you being wrong.
(Other than me punking your alias and persona)

I just keep pointing this out, and your continued use of that tactic only confirms who the liar is, you're such a liar and a weak person you won't even define yourself.

You display the most common trait of a nobody and you know it.

you made up a story that makes no sense, because you lack intelligence. you've been getting called up on it, for 10 years. you choose "not to prove anyone wrong but to wind people up cause it's more fun".

well, choose away. i'm also having fun. you don't get to ask anything as long as it's like that.

i must admit, i admire your will to pursue this pathetic virtual reality shit for ~10 years, but i guess it's better for you, than to consider suicide or something drastic.

VR shit?

I'm a gamer for life, so why would I not be on some sort of gaming forum?

You seem to have conflicts about who you are.

i don't consider myself a gamer due to the fact that i played no videogames from 2010 till a couple of months ago. nor did i ever try to be a GAMER. i play for fun, when i play.

but that's not really the topic, cause your 20k+ posts are NOT about videogames. except when you celebrate losses, or beating cooller without being on the same server as him. they are about your personal wannabe life.

i gotta go now, but i'm sure you're gonna show me that 10 times dodged rare contract when i come back. then we can talk some more.

WHy would I provide you with a rare contact when you won't even tell us anything about you?

What kind of investment is that?

Its totally one sided, you want my name, past location of work, but you won't even share anything. I ha ve already given you way more info, you have given nothing. I don't care if you believe me, at lest I have given you something. You have given nothing which is remotely credible about you.

Like I said, this is just small insight into your one sided investment.

You don't consider yourself a gamer, yet you play videogames and talk about them on a forum.

You're utterly one sided and unconvincing. A joke.

thing is, the stuff you're supposed to prove goes back years and years. i'll quote on this one: you don't want to prove anything, even though you could, cause it's more fun for you to _wind people up_

endquote.

i don't know do i really need to add anything.

you shared nothing. when you think about it, and i'm sure you have many many times, noone would ask you anything if your story made any sense. but it doesn't and therefore you're supposed to prove that the story is true. if you talked about flipping burgers, or working in a garage, or whatever, noone would say anything. but you stick with a story that lacks any logic and/or sense whatsoever, and that requires a proof. that's fair, at least.

The bottom line is you're asking for intricate details of my life yet you continually refuse to provide even the most basic details of yours.

You can try and dodge this all you want, but its just a fact cos there is nothing out there for you.

bottom line is you're evading to prove any part of your made up story for 10 years, and have the courage to ignore that but rather ask something from me. it doesn't work like that.

if someone found my degree in economics/marketing, or my work in autocad/photoshop/indesign, or whatever the fuck, interesting at all, i guess THAT would be the topic of discussion here. but it's just a degree, it's just a job, it's not so special, i don't know...


your made up story is interesting for people, cause you lack intelligence to come up with something logical, and it haunts you, 10 years and counting. i find it fun from time to time to remind you how stupid you were, and still are.

"bottom line is you're evading to prove any part of your made up story for 10 years"

Bottom line is you have no evidence that I am.

Bottom line is you still continue to share nothing about you other than implying you have this or that.

How is anyone supposed to find anything about you if you tell us nothing?

Why are you so secretive, if you have a degree in marketing and economics, I trust you have something to show us?

My past is only of interest to you and others because it gives me a rank over you. And you don't like it.

You cannot be critical of someone for not providing intricate details of their past when you will not even provide the most basic ones that allow yourself to be authenticated.

You can keep whining all you want, but its just a fact.,

And just think, I only came here to upset certain people like you too :)

still ~10 lines of crap, no content whatsoever.

your story is crap and makes no sense, 20k tries to make people believe with no arguments to back it up..

i'm really sorry to point out how it makes no sense.

continue.

Lethe comes with the smackdown. GG

Lethe obviously no life with too much time on his hands

that must be the case.

in almost 3 years of my absence from this site pretty much nothing changed, and i doubt i would have been here now, writing this, if i hadn't accidentally seen a topic just the same as the ones i left. so i just replied to poor jamie williams asking him if he's actually still doing his thing, after all these years, writing his silly story about a 15 year old kid playing arcades at the mall, approached by game developers who are hiring him to work for them even though he'd never seen a PC in his life. turns out he still is. and that is his problem. not me.

anyway, i couldn't give less fuck cause sometimes it's fun, but most of the time i just feel sorry.

cheers anyway.

oh look and now you've turned into him

dear fucking god, that's hardly gonna happen.

You're from Eastern Europe and you won't share anything about you.
You don't need to know about pc's to work for a console developer you silly cretin. Especially when they used UNIX silicon graphics.
That was linux before it went mainstream to newbs.

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2001/03/01/gamecub...ofile-rare
"the company as it had one of the biggest SGI networks in UK"

You're so confident in yourself and so easily brushed away.

You silly boy,no wonder you hide hind an alias, life must have been hard for you.

I like spoiling your online escape, whatever crisis you're going through, it won't get any better for you bitching at me. I'll continue to make you look the joke you are.

noone stalks shopping malls for children playing arcade games in order to employ them. i'm terribly sorry.

but i'm happy to see the "online escape" part, cause it always brings a smile to my face.

People get employed by employers all the time based on their ability at a game that developer is developing..

Thresh for example worked with idsoftware on one of the quakes and as a thanks I believe someone was coded in to acknowledge that.

Seth K was capcom community manager for street fighter based on his involvement in the fighting game community as a fan.

I'm glad this brings a smile to your face, cos I sure enjoy highlighting what an inaccurate clueless loser you are time after time.

your ability to play a game is irrelevant, cause a 15 years old kid playing singleplayer arcade game in a mall is not something anyone is interested in. you could have at least tried to make people believe that you were winning some tournaments or whatever back then, but i guess the problem is, it could have been checked. in your sad little limited brain. there is a place for a logical event where a guy is shopping with his girlfriend or whatever and sees a kid playing arcades. he's delighted with the fact that the random child is beating the singleplayer game and he wants to bring him back to his company so the kid can say what is good and what isn't.

to a normal person, this story is insulting. to an idiot such as you, it's pretty good.

Back in the day fighting games in the arcade did work like this, would be alot of people gathered around them with the winner staying on. I remember seeing this first hand with virtua fighter, street fighters, killer instinct and mortal kombat. People would know who the best/better players are as the arcades used to be very busy.
Also this was before the internet was big so tournaments were pretty low key localised events if they did happen and like i say before internet so not gonna be much on record of anything that did happen.

I LOVE the part about Eastern Europe.

what the fuck is that supposed to mean? You're from WALES. And i don't even know if this is considered EASTERN europe.

I'm suggesting you're from a poor part of the world whose people often migrate in their millions to do medial jobs in my country.

I know you must be pretty destitute.

This online escape of yours is all you have isn't it, and I'm going to ruin that for you too :)

well, if we agree that both of our countries are pretty small, and people migrate to wherever (and people stay the fuck away from wales, cause it's a fucking toilet), than at least croatia

your shithole is far below. and if it's far below a "eastern european country" (even though eastern europe is kinda to the east of here), then it's pretty bad for you.

"You're from Eastern Europe"

How in the fuck do you justify bringing that up as a negative?

Also, Lethe states in his profile he's Croatian.
Perhaps you weren't paying attention, but Croatia has never been in the East of Europe.

You can take your misinformed superiority complex and shove it deep up your ass, preferably up to where your head is at the moment.

'Eastern Europe' my fucking balls.

3 years absence, you've been posting frequently for many months and you have nearly 10,000 posts despite an apparent 3 year absense.

I like how you keep trying to pretend you're doing this for fun and you have a life.

You're broke, jobless and living in poverty in the armpit of eastern europe, don't try and con me you little bitch.

pretend i have a life? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHROFLMAOETC

i actually am doing this for fun, and the fact that i found you telling your bullshit story to a new audience after 3 years of not being here proves that you do not.

i'm gonna call up on your sad bullshit story whenever i feel like it, so... struggle.

You've not proven anything, you're just convinced by your stupid reasoning and hidden anger you never did anything in gaming.

Its why you hide behind your alias and share nothing about you.

Its always the same with people like you, a lot to say, but never anything to show.

Its fun for me exposing this about you.

All this because you're little suck buddy cypher quit, do you think he's going read this and add you to his buddy list?

Stop being a suck ass.
Stop hiding behind an alias and sharing nothing about you.

Only then might you get some credibility and status in the gaming world.

"never did anything in gaming"

"credibility and status in the gaming world."


Sorry to intrude, but the first quoted sentence is irrelevant to the topic at hand, while the second quoted sentence is an oxymoron.

Also, lol @ the whole "Croatia vs Wales" argument. Just lol.

No its not, his whole motivation is because he is intimidated by what I claim to have done. If he was not, he would not care.

And He's from a poor part of the world, he's likely to be even more adversely affected by hearing people earning good money.

Simples.

"No its not, his whole motivation is because he is intimidated by what I claim to have done. If he was not, he would not care."

His point is more to do with the fact that you tend to both place emphasis on the importance of gaining status within the Gaming world on a professional level AND making claims, some of which can be considered far-fetched and/or illogical. I don't see him being intimidated at all, I would put his high response rate to you in this thread to a "PEOPLE ARE BEING WRONG ON THE INTERNET, I MUST CORRECT THEM"-type personality.

"And He's from a poor part of the world, he's likely to be even more adversely affected by hearing people earning good money."

So in your opinion, every country that's in "Eastern Europe" (this is questionable by the way - normally "Eastern Europe" is attributed to Warsaw Pact countries, of which Yugoslavia was not a part of. Croatia is considered Balkan, Mediterranean, Southern European and pan-Yugoslavian. If you wanted to make some sort of edgy statement in front of a Croatian, compare them poisitively to Bosnia and/or Serbia and highlight the close historical ties they've had. Saying they are just poor and from Eastern Europe just makes you look misinformed and xenophobic rather than "edgy").

I find the concept of a Croatian holiday starting with landing your turbo-prop plane on a mud runway and be immediately surrounded by goats and barefoot orphans begging for money and stealing luggage while the propellers haven't yet stopped rotating yet, in a Borat-esque manner, as hilarious as the next guy, but unfortunately it's not entirely true: countries you berate for being "quite poor" actually tend to have rich tradition, a stable military infrastructure, developed import/export and high tertiary education rates. And a lower inflation rate than the UK according to www.tradingeconomics.com , whose website I found through google).

Additionally, no country in the world has an equal distribution of wealth amongst its citizens, a statistic which tends to fluctuate based on circumstances (in layman's terms: just because you reside in a poorer country, it does not necessarily mean that you yourself have never seen any monetary values in excess of £10 at any one single time) - and I actually wondered myself, so used the magical power of Google to find a list of millionaires in Croatia and Wales to compare the two.

I was able to find some information, as published by news sites of their respective countries:
http://www.itv.com/news/wales/2012-04-29/sund...-revealed/
http://www.nacional.hr/en/clanak/33809/croatias-50-wealthiest

And it was incredibely inconclusive: even after application of transfer rates (the easy part) because ITV actually was citing the Sunday Times Rich 1000 Richest People in the UK with a cut-off point of £72 million, while the Nacional just generated a list of the top-50 richest (and a cut-off point of 23 million Euros), it's hard to compare directly. So it proved nothing apart from there are multi-millionaires in both and that out of the 1000 richest people in Great Britain and Northern Ireland, only 24 or 2.4% (if you consider commercial partners and spouses as one entry, 28 if you don't) hail from Wales. Which is only half below the forecasted result, as Wales contributes to about 5% of the UK's population.

So, yea, nothing simple unless you are either stupid or xenophobic.

Jamerio is a close to 40yo man that is maintained by his brother. That doesn't sound well no matter in what part of the world he is and shows he made a lot of bad decisions, including not finishing high school and lying over the interwebz for more than 10 years (several threads and proof on that matter).

Now he is looking for attention on yet another thread by making absurd and illogical statements. It's best to ignore him, though serves as a reminder of what can happen if you go full retard on wasting time, daydreaming and taking this personal.

Cypher probably wants to avoid that, as for him there's no point in playing if he can't be the best anymore. Personally, every time I read "Jamerio" to me it means "better get back to work".

the only reason why i ever reply to this bullshit is cause i'm pretty sure that he's a clear danger for young dumb guys with this made up bullshit.

if there is ONE poor guy out there who believes this shit, leaving school and spamming buttons on the arcades, waiting for someone to offer him a job, that's one too many.

Tons of people have gotten jobs or currency spamming buttons on a joystick. In fact this entire game forum was built on the dream of playing quake for money, by someone who did just that and many readers here have made money doing so.

My past reality is so far fetched to you because you never made a dime out of gaming and its easier for you to accuse me of lying because you never did anything.

Don't try and hide and pretend you are doing this for other people, you are doing this because you're a sad, pathetic loser who won't even tell the world his name or what he does.

You're nothing but an anonymous coward and a troll.

This is proven by you continually refusing to share anything about you, while having everything to say about anyone else.

look, let's say that someone spotted you pressing buttons on an arcade and offered you a job, which is quite funny. there were a million guys better than you at the time but who cares. and then you went on to work for people who make videogames at the age of... i don't know. 16?. and then you earned couple of hundred thousand pounds on "royalties" for that amazing work, at the age of 17 (?) and all that crap. let's say it's true, who gives a fuck.

you brilliant history and life planning led to to your older brother's basement, with no job whatsoever, bitter and raged in your mid 30s, uneducated, and mad at the world.

but you're sure gonna talk about those (god knows if true) days 15 years ago when you pressed them buttons.

you just don't get it don't you?

fuck, you never will.

What is so far fetched about having worked in the game industry on a bafta winning game.

thousands of people have done it.

I didn't say your every claim is riduculous. Purely having to an award-winning project (or some other claim of note) is not far-fetched, it's more to do with your other claims to be a childhood prodigy of MotorX, amazing amounts of monetary in-flow and all-round awesomeness.

Especially considering how you put your claims of gaming industry prowess on such a pedestal. You pull the BAFTA card more so than raythenoob did with his hatred of those two tierslumming dudes from QL Forums, pulling it out left and right. Yes, it's cool and quite an interesting fact and all, but the game in question was released in the last century, and it is your main staple at claiming being a high-flyer of game development. Perhaps it's time to move on, especially considering you have gone through a change in career as you say you are no longer actively working in game development anymore?

No its not, his whole motivation is because he is intimidated by what I claim to have done. If he was not, he would not care.

intimidated by....?

are you serious?

intimidated?

that's not even funny. it could be funny, but it's not.

even if everything you say was true, and i don't know if any of it is, that's still hardly relevant. especially when you consider what you have today, at your age. and that's nothing. a console? come on.

all i do is point out that your story makes no sense, and you are unable to prove anything, but rather choose to spend all these years in arguing without arguments. i am actually not so interested in whatever it is you actually do , i just tend to call bullshit when i see it, and you stick to your bullshit story since early 2000s.

i guess it would be better for me just to ignore, but i'm probably forced to point out how stupid and illogical something is. especially if everything you have to back up your illogical story is your own words.

"all i do is point out that your story makes no sense,"

That's because you're an idiot.

EXAMPLE 1: You seemed perplexed I got a job because I did not have a PC, you thought a console developer who emplyed someone who played games would give a shit about that, especially when they did not even use traditional PC's and instead use silicon graphics workstations.

EXAMPLE 2: You seem perplexed someone can get employment by a developer for playing games based on their ability at that game.

Yet gamers get jobs all the time by devs of the games they excel in.
Level Designers get jobs all the time based on mods they make.
Testers get promoted through the ranks all the time into designers and producers. Its not even an issue to anyone with a clue or who is not blinded by their own inability to make a dime form gaming.

Go onto SRK and ask if any of them were employed by capcom based on their street figther skills.

You're totally and utterly clueless and bound by the anger that you never made a dime from gaming or never will. The reasons you refuse to show us anything about you is because you ruined your life through gaming. I'll remind you of that till the end of time.

You're totally and utterly clueless and bound by the anger that you never made a dime from gaming or never will. The reasons you refuse to show us anything about you is because you ruined your life through gaming. I'll remind you of that till the end of time.

how are we supposed to have a conversation if you lack some basic comprehension skills?

i never made a dime from gaming, cause gaming is not my interest. instead of being stupid and believing that gaming is something you can live from, which is a joke, i got a degree in economics/marketing, and i have a pretty good job, while i live with my girlfriend and that's pretty much exactly as i wanted it to be. when i feel like it, i play some quake. victim of what? :D

you poor fuck.

do you realize how i shit all over your basis of comparison? i'm not a gamer dude, i spent my years elsewhere, with a reason. now after heavily resetting your basis of comparison, and making you look like an idiot for the 45th time, please turn around yourself and see what the "victim of gaming" life actually looks like.

What an epic internet fight. You two seriously spend to much time on this website. It was a good read though, I'm not even mad.

Wow, you read it?? :P

I was going to suggest they get a room.. or some kind of dungeon where they can fight it out like men

maybe I'm the one who spends to much time in here o.0..... anyway I propose a classic English gentlemen's duel since Jamerio has thrown the *puts glasses on* gauntlet YEAAHHHHH.

Don't feel bad, man. I read all this shit too. :()

don't waste your time on him man, Jamerio is pretending to be some dev who worked on donkey kong country and street fighter. he's a pathological liar with no evidence to any claim he's made. just don't bother :D

don't know why anyone would try to give him shit.
he had a long career and gave us some amazing matches.
we should be happy that he's moving on to another chapter in his life.
i tip my hat to you, alexey. good luck!

Why should we be happy, when he won't continue entertaining us? that's just stupid, don't play the Jesus I bet you are sad and disappointed too :..(

Another heartless thread -.-

Nah, it's a h8m3 thread this time.

sorry to disappoint

Things you ignore doesn't count.

Just to people saying 'quake is dying blah blah' -> nonsense

Ran some numbers today.

Quakelive duels have seen a month on month increase in games since August last year.

Quakelive duels are now at the same level as before the infamous July 2012 update that removed map voting for non-premium.

More clan arena games have been tracked this month than ever before in the history of quakelive ranks (since 2011)

June 2013 saw more duels played by qlranks than any month before April 2012.

More people played duels in 2013 on average per month than 2012.

you dont get it

saying you don't get it to a guy who runs a massive database regarding ql usage, and is also not employed by id software..

no, I am afraid he will get it.

400,000 duelers!!! Why not show the real #'s, you know, minus alternate accounts? real data not available because? propaganda much?

also it is summer i believe, you know school is out and such

Even 2012 and 2011 had summers.

yeah but it didn't have alternate accounts. Oh wait!

England didn't have a Summer in 2012 :(

:(((( but now it very hot and sunny

How about this.

In the last 14 days, 42,000 individual accounts played a FFA game.

IN 14 DAYS.

This is the quakelive renaissance.

I wouldn't be surprised if the faceit stream featured on twitch main page is at least partly responsible for this

people trying it out because it looked cool

and I want to add that, no, I don't do drugs

ELVIS DIDN'T DO NO DRUGS

400,000 duelers translates into 5000 spectators how?

numbers don't add up, sorry

400,000 players tracked ever. (all game types)

Active players currently is lower.. Last 30 days 80k+ players active.

6% of the entire playerbase watched.

Jesus ray, fuck off and die.

http://www.infosniper.net/index.php?ip_addres...om_level=7

doesn't look like ray. if there is any ray posts or ips, let me know.

Ah, I see. Didn't check the ip, just noticed that every post from this anon is doom and gloom. As well as posting that googletrends shit a few times.

that sounds like vedic as well, although hes not europe either.

for me you are now the statsman of quake, keep it up, i fucking love statistics

divide that by three then subtract extremerz 1200 alt accounts... and we actually have 12800 people playing ffa worldwide.

There's been nothing but a decrease in all gametype activity in the usa.
On average theres only 3 servers(east coast) for ffa that are full which includes toronto , chicago, texas, virginia. Lets say these servers are completely full including specs which is 16 players max. 16x3= 48. So 48 people playing at any given time... LOL

I love how there are always anonymous posters out there trying to bring down QL and those who provide numbers/facts/citations in its favor.

dafuq you there dissin anons bruv? :P

But... but... I already have my pitchfork out!

so happy for all the duelers! :rollseyes:

CA has grown 10x faster than any other game type. The numbers are fucking insane.

TDM has stayed flat.

The rest I haven't tracked long enough, but i'm pretty sure FFA is insanely huge.

Not sure about you guys but in US West the only games I can ever find are FFA and CA lol.

It's hard to play TDM with only 1 player

No one understand the pain of west NA :p

but uhh ITS GROWING AND SHIT so no worries?? lol :)

I realize im a faggot for restricting myself to manly quake only, but for a ca hating west NA tdm playing fucker like myself... QUAKE IS DEAD.

go europe / 1v1 tho =) quake will never truely 100% die you guys are correct in the true sense, quake lives =)

it's been dead since 2003, lol.
the good CA players are too stuck in their ways to switch to tdm at this point and not enough new blood is coming in to keep teams active. you might as well stick to 1v1 if you live in the west. tdm is a lost hope.

yea pretty much. I dabble in the 1v1, its still raw DM so its still manly :) but I just don't seem to be able to enjoy myself nearly as much as i did when I was playing with my TDM team, and so I don't sink nearly as many hours into the mode =/ But yea its something to play at least!

Typical higgs sports analogy: this shit feels like basketball if there were no teams anymore and everyone just played 1on1 D: Lots of MEH in the air.

can you say how much of the player base is a premium/pro?

thx

i blame fatal1ty for this madness

and still why the hell is it you posting it here and not some syncerror guy or smth

fucking id, does this company even exist anymore? lmao

Whilst that might be true, i'd rather watch Cypher play than the players that replace him. For me, the definition of alive or dead within the context of Quake refers to the players participating. There will be nobody to replace Cypher, Rapha, Toxjq, Av3k, Fox, Strenx, DaHanG, Chance, GaRpY, CZM, Fazz, Evil, Madix, K1llsen, Spart1e, Noctis, Cooller... the list goes on and on.

Can you imagine a DreamHack without all of the above players, excluding the ones that have long gone? Whilst players like Twister and Baksteen might be decent enough... better than some of the above players perhaps... they are not (and will never be) the faces of Quake 3 / Quake Live in my book.

It will be different for everybody, maybe in part it's because i'm no longer an active player, but that's how i view the current state of things as QL moves forward.

Fuck Cypher! yuka is coming back as Shub-niGGa! He is about to dominate DH summer and qcon with his new mouse!

:(

fuck this life

Good riddance.Goodbye and hope u dont show ur face here again cypher.

why is jamerio such a jizzbag?

Semantics.

shut up jizzbag

ye shame that this thread of all turned into jamerio thread

Because people like Lethe feed him

Noooo. Cypher... <3
Wish you all best mate! I really hope you will reconsider and atleast attent dreamhack after short break..

Offically finished with Quake (c) cypher
Come to me, baby (C) Quake

Is this official? In the sense, is it confirmed, or repeated on other sources?

statement on a players twitter page.


can it get more official?

It sure can.

Deletion requested by user.

laughing.

cypher do you remember when i came up to the server where you'd have to play strenx ?

when i said "cypher suck my dick bitch" ?

Maybe that is the reason why you quit quake ?

hahaha

10/10

i quit (c) tony

Tony is a MAN he never quits >8-)

Big player leaving the quake!

Cypher's NEW Game ^ ^

sanic > sonic

that music is addictive ...

'Sorry, that page doesn’t exist!'

I hate how everyone either doesn't believe him, or now hates him.

so sad to see such a lack of respect to someone as important as cypher. pathetic people here.

this

I agree, but I think that's mostly because it's hard to accept that decision without a decent explanation, and people are a bit frustrated by it.
with competitive ql being active like it hasn't been in a while, quakecon and dreamhack around the corner, this just kind of seems like a "didn't win all the tournaments? time to quit" rage move.
obviously cypher can do what he wants, but he hasn't done much to make himself likeable lately

i guess it started all as he could not stream his own games, but WHY did he changed his twitter account ?
well in the end he gives a shit, as this is now his most fav topic as we saw him reading once on stream his *streaming* topic

respect for what ?

U have to earn it first ...