i used to owned qck+, hayate (coouldnt get rid of the dust even if if i brushed it) and now hien. At the beginning hien was just fine but after months of gathering dust i decided to wash and brush it according to artisan instrction manual. I didnt do it rough but after 4 months and 5 times of brushing, my pad surface is pretty much ruined as alot of the surface fibers start to break up and stick out from the surface and some areas of it, it form those curvy thread ball

im not sure what other i want but i do want same quality as artisan pads that has humidity proof my wrist and hands sweats alot. (thank you mom/dad)

im a mid sense user 24 cm/360 and i like pads with friction as i have better control