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QL standalone and FPS (40 comments)

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Posted by dem0n @ 07:21 CST, 29 January 2014 - iMsg

Ever since the standalone came on I've had issues with my FPS. First of all, I have absolutely NO IDEA what I should set my com_maxfps to now. Also what the hell is com_idlesleep 0/1 and what does it do ?

What kind of FPS should I try to get ? Right now I've set com_idlesleep 0 and com_maxfps 125. But running around on toxicity the FPS still drop when I'm looking at certain areas of the map or if I'm spinning my mouse around.

Can anyone really help me understand anything in this mess and guide me toward values that are best for me ? I could not really find something definitive in all the hints I've got from various people so I've made this thread.

PS: never had a problem before standalone. What the hell happened... ?

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<< Comment #1 @ 07:34 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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dem0n

Also, what the hell is that awesomium_process ?

I have two of them + quakelive.exe... amounts to a lot of cpu usage doesn't it ? For quake ?

Edited by dem0n at 07:34 CST, 29 January 2014

<< Comment #9 @ 08:12 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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yellowhaze - Reply to #1

Im wondering about this to.

i'd like to see an answer about this awesomium process thing

<< Comment #10 @ 08:18 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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generic nickname - Reply to #9

http://www.awesomium.com/

<< Comment #13 @ 08:29 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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yellowhaze - Reply to #10

aaah so its for the website it self, fair enough.

thank you!

<< Comment #2 @ 07:38 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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sharpe

better call Dieudonn� to find out the truth !

<< Comment #4 @ 07:48 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #2

He does not play quake afaik.

<< Comment #6 @ 07:58 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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sharpe - Reply to #4

jk jk ))

<< Comment #17 @ 09:27 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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ShadyVoltaire - Reply to #2

Them damn Yids did it (this statement is officially anti-establishment rather than anti-Semitic c: ).

<< Comment #3 @ 07:40 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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esdf '

do you have 250hz screen? if not set the fps to 125.

<< Comment #5 @ 07:56 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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yellowhaze - Reply to #3

Why 250 hz lel?

im playing on 144 hz with 250 fps?

something wrong with that?

if so please tell me :D

<< Comment #7 @ 08:01 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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ihve - Reply to #5

he is implying that with 144hz you can't notice more than 144fps because that is the monitor refresh rate and thereby there is no need to set the frame rate higher.

<< Comment #8 @ 08:11 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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yellowhaze - Reply to #7

hmm so is there any negative feedback if i play on 250fps?

should i lower my fps to 144?

THanks in advance!

<< Comment #11 @ 08:20 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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~s$s~ - Reply to #8

if u'd lower ur fps to 142 (144 is not valid it will be 166 insteed) then ur cl_maxpackets will be 71 not 125 : D. if it tells u something

<< Comment #16 @ 09:27 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #8

In QL it's either 125 or 250. Anything that's not that value is not optimal.

<< Comment #12 @ 08:23 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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Ur1ch - Reply to #7

I can say, that while having non gaming monitor NEC 60 hz... If I set com_maxfps to 200 or 250 I got clear difference in background smoothness (moving mouse left and right the background is clearly less jittering). You can explain me that its not possible but still ... I dunno is it fps or what but its better.

<< Comment #37 @ 15:10 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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Freiya - Reply to #7

YU SEE ONLEY 24 FSP WIT UR EYES SO ANY MOAR OF DAT IS BULSIT, YA?

<< Comment #14 @ 08:55 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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pecka_

com_maxfps 125 or 250. other values are changing cl_maxpackets.
com_idlesleep 0.
r_vertexlight 1 makes fps much higher. also r_enablePostProcess 0.

<< Comment #19 @ 10:03 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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sleek - Reply to #14

^ this.
also, make sure you can constantly hit stable 250fps if you set maxfps to that, otherwise the lowered framerate will dynamically lower your packets output. that is the theoretical version of it. now in reality.. lets just say you're not the only one feeling the weird framerate difference after the standalone :) somehow the game feels as the framerate was plummeting randomly, when supposedly it isn't. running stable 125 or 200 fps now just feels twice as bad as stable 125fps used to be. i have different experiences on two different machines though.

<< Comment #15 @ 09:24 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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ogdiabz

I get drops on most maps with values like 125 and 250. If you set to 126 it stays solid though? I can get solid fps at 201, 220, 235, but anything from 236 and above goes shakey, anything lower than 126 drops too. Weird fucking shit going on.

Edited by _gone at 09:27 CST, 29 January 2014

<< Comment #18 @ 09:43 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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fireye

r_enablePostProcess 0

I found this to give me 250fps steady

<< Comment #20 @ 10:14 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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gSTRUCTOR '

whats the purpose of com_idlesleep?

<< Comment #21 @ 10:18 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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hitsu - Reply to #20

putting ur idle to sleep

<< Comment #22 @ 10:23 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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FlashSoul - Reply to #20

By default, QL now sleeps instead of "spinning" in a loop for x ms. Some systems seem to have problems and sleep way more than they are asked to. com_idlesleep was added to give these users the possibility to revert to the old spinning behaviour.

<< Comment #23 @ 10:25 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #22

thanks, will try it

<< Comment #35 @ 14:44 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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skulp - Reply to #22

<< Comment #36 @ 14:45 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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skulp - Reply to #22

entire video is $$$, but cut to 1:59 for com_idlesleep 0

<< Comment #38 @ 16:02 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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FlashSoul - Reply to #36

Hehe. btw I used the term "spin" because this is what's used in the source code.

https://github.com/id-Software/Quake-III-Aren...on.c#L2685

<< Comment #40 @ 16:25 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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zb0t - Reply to #36

No Guile's theme version :(.

<< Comment #24 @ 11:30 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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thuNDa

if you have a nvidia card, you could check if you have "threaded optimization" turned on.
that doesn't work well with QL and should be set to AUTO or OFF.

another thing: do u actually use r_lodbias -2?
it's the optimal setting with enemymodel keel.

<< Comment #25 @ 12:07 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #24

I had 2 actually. When I changed it to -2 it looked like I had a lower fov...

What does that do ?

Also set enablepostprocess to 0. Seems a bit better.

I tend to have huge lags when someone appears online/offline or when someone connects to the server, or also when I respawn or use a teleporter.

Well I tried now and it looks a bit better but still it's weird that I never had any issue before :(

<< Comment #26 @ 12:47 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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Anonymous (86.172.10.196) - Reply to #25

set affinity both on awesompooo and quakelive using differernt cores helps a bit. if you do not mind losing your friends list seeing elo or whatever what not else.. you can run browserless which will also help matters.

gl!

<< Comment #28 @ 13:40 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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thuNDa - Reply to #25

r_lodbias controls the level of detail of objects("-2" highest quality, "2" lowest quality).
coincidentally, the value of -2 makes enemymodel keel to fit the hitbox best.
tankjr fits best with r_lodbias 2.

<< Comment #33 @ 14:42 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #28

I see, used to have tankjr...

<< Comment #27 @ 13:13 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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Anonymous (91.234.22.47)

Ye he is so antisemitic that he has hundreds of jewish people around the world supporting him, even in israel. But hopefuly there is mass media to tell me what to think. Thank you TV, thank you radio and press! I dunno what would have happened if i was to start thinking by myself!

The word "antisemitic" is racist btw.

<< Comment #29 @ 14:20 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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melechesh ' - Reply to #27

not this shit again

<< Comment #30 @ 14:33 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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sonic - Reply to #29

this shit again

Edited by sonic at 14:33 CST, 29 January 2014

<< Comment #31 @ 14:36 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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Serious

That's me in the screenshot!

all lucky rockets ))

<< Comment #32 @ 14:39 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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megaman3

Now compare q3 (standalone) against ql (standalone)

This site needs twitch emoticons

<< Comment #34 @ 14:42 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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sonic - Reply to #32

now kith

<< Comment #39 @ 16:09 CST, 29 January 2014 >>

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koekie

I have the same problem. The problem for me was that the standalone uses my laptop's on-board video card instead of the dedicated chip (which is the default).

What I do now is right-click the QL shortcut -> "Run with graphics processor" -> "High performance NVIDIA processor"

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