no, q4 is no substitute for q3 or ql but any stretch. It's just not on the same level.

The only 'advantages' Q4 has are...

CrouchSliding
Spawn your own servers (with proper control over them)
Teleports where rockets go through.

Can't think of a single aspect other than those which would make me go back and endure the bad things as even the weapons were a rip off from quake 3.

if you miss any maps convert them!

Now if you said Doom 3, I could at least get on board with the different style of play and not having LG and RG ruin the game.

I quite enjoyed doom 3 duel too! Dunno if it's still up but there was a French server up a couple of years ago that was still quite busy.

I drop in every two years, its fun getting raped by some of the people I used to own, took them like 10 years to get as good as I did in 12 months, but still. its nice to see progress in every walk of life.

i was never too sure about projectiles going thru teles + jumpads, aren't teleports are jumppad defensive elements after all? (like if u get the teleport to run away and spam back at the exit)

Because of the Reason?

There are still some people playing Q4 on a regular basis.

Over the past few weeks, there has been several people from qlive/q2/q3 coming back to play again.

The most popular ffa DM server is 'Killatons' but it's q4base

We have duels fairly often on the tastyspleen.net Q4MAX server, and CTF on Tai's Wonderland server 'almost' every evening 8pm-Midnight EST

\O/

i dont feel like spending few euros on a dead game. are the servers cracked like cpm ones? i always wanted to try crouch sliding, it always looked like fun

give cq3 a try then

Crouchslide in CQ3 is just not as great as Q4 =)

REASON:

if youre in NA im down for duels

Have you tried Militia? HAS ANYONE TRIED MILITIA? PORT TO STARBOARD!

cos your all too gay to get Q43A or too stupid to launch a server even if its just a press of a button with Q43A launcher

Q4 a subsitute for Q3, hence the same

http://www.moddb.com/mods/q43a/downloads

Apart from the usual reason (crouchsliding) and some other little gimmicks theres nothing that it did better than q3. the game feels clunky and the movement (ledges) are just stupid,

The only real good thing is the fact that rail actually took more (yes, more) skill to hit. I find myself resorting to rockets/lg and a lot more to the hyper than rail. SG is amazing aswell.

Q4 1.4.2 with q4max 0.82 brings the best of QW (complete, almost unbreakable map control and speed) and Q3 (situational weapons and positioning) together to create the perfect quake game.