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Streaming QL = latency spikes ingame? (22 comments)

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Posted by BlaD3 @ 07:34 CDT, 6 April 2014 - iMsg

I tried to stream some QL while playing on a 150/15 mb cable connection, but it gives me latency spikes ingame between 10 and 70 ping.

Tried several settings in OBS, but the spikes remain. Since QL is a latency dependent game and spikes will screw up your aiming, it will not be playable.

Is this normal or? I do not have any other online game that's so latency dependent at the moment to test if it is the same there, but there's probably people out there that know more about this.

Thanks in advanced!

Update: I have Ziggo cable from the Netherlands btw, maybe some one who streams with that who can try Quake could test for me if they have the same or something.

Edited by BlaD3 at 08:11 CDT, 6 April 2014 - 14214 Hits

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<< Comment #1 @ 07:50 CDT, 6 April 2014 >>

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funnyb

It's not normal, I play with OBS on pretty often, doesn't really affect my latency at all.. Can't help you with your issue though, just sayin, it's abnormal.

Edited by sucky sucky 5 dolla at 07:50 CDT, 6 April 2014

<< Comment #2 @ 07:53 CDT, 6 April 2014 >>

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moto1

there's an option in OBS for something related to networking, minimal network impact or something. try that

what router do you have? set your quake ports to highest priority, that should help. plus you could be hitting your max upload, that is another possible reason

<< Comment #3 @ 08:06 CDT, 6 April 2014 >>

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BlaD3

The minimal network impact option does not do anything for me.

I've got http://www.sitecom.com/nl/wi-fi-router-x4-n300/wlr-4100/p/1585 as router.

How do I determine quake ports? I'll try that then.

<< Comment #4 @ 08:15 CDT, 6 April 2014 >>

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moto1 - Reply to #3

nice it supports QoS

I always put a range for quake ports, 27000-28000

<< Comment #5 @ 08:33 CDT, 6 April 2014 >>

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BlaD3 - Reply to #4

Should I enable QoS? I can only enter port forwarding for my local IP address of the router, like 192.168.2.XXX. But when I check if that port is open via CanYouSeeMe or w/e website, it will use my provider's IP address that is 92.XXX.XXX.XXX and it says port is closed.

Edited by BlaD3 at 08:35 CDT, 6 April 2014

<< Comment #6 @ 08:40 CDT, 6 April 2014 >>

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moto1 - Reply to #5

yes enable QoS, try streaming and see if you still lag

if so, does it give you more specific QoS settings? where you can add a port and a priority or something?

<< Comment #7 @ 08:48 CDT, 6 April 2014 >>

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BlaD3 - Reply to #6

Ok, do you happen to know if it automatically works now or that I do have to fill in these settings: http://oi61.tinypic.com/1z5urtu.jpg

Update: QoS enabled with not filling in anything does not solve it. I am going to see connecting my PC to my modem and removing the router will remove the latency. If so, then at least I know the router needs some settings changed.

Update2: Ok plugging in directly to the modem removing the router, causes the same effect. Router is not the problem.

Edited by BlaD3 at 08:59 CDT, 6 April 2014

<< Comment #8 @ 09:10 CDT, 6 April 2014 >>

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moto1 - Reply to #7

those look like some crappy QoS settings :(

the best you could do with that is limit your upload for streaming, but you might as well do that in OBS. not trying to be rude, that router might be crap

maybe drop your upload speed a bit in OBS?

<< Comment #9 @ 09:14 CDT, 6 April 2014 >>

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BlaD3 - Reply to #8

Does not help, but like I said, I removed the router and put my PC directly on my modem, which works is only there to use as a switch.

I am going to try streaming on a different connection (at work) tomorrow and see how that works for latency. If that works, I might consider switching to that provider as it is available to me here too.

Thanks for replying!

<< Comment #12 @ 09:50 CDT, 6 April 2014 >>

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moto1 - Reply to #9

are you on wired or wifi for the connection?

IMO it might be a bandwidth issue (your obs upload is too close to your max internet upload) or it might be a router issue.

gl!

<< Comment #14 @ 09:53 CDT, 6 April 2014 >>

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BlaD3 - Reply to #12

I have tried 500/1000/1500/2000/2500 kb/s, it does not make a difference. I will try to see what happens tomorrow on the other connection and if that one does work, I will keep cable TV and switch to VDSL internet 50/5 mb.

<< Comment #16 @ 10:01 CDT, 6 April 2014 >>

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moto1 - Reply to #14

then it sounds like an issue with the router. imo you will get diff results because your work will likely have more/better networking equipment that has some form of QoS

you should try picking up a good router that supports QoS, I bought a WRT54GL a while ago and threw on custom firmware (dd-wrt). the router cost me around $50. you can do a lot better in terms of buying a router nowadays, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if your issues went away once you hooked up a good router with QoS

<< Comment #10 @ 09:46 CDT, 6 April 2014 >>

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pitch

ABny chance you are playing over wifi?
Also what settings are you using?

Edited by pitch at 09:49 CDT, 6 April 2014

<< Comment #11 @ 09:49 CDT, 6 April 2014 >>

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BlaD3 - Reply to #10

Hehe no, I got everything cabled up! ;-)

<< Comment #17 @ 13:14 CDT, 6 April 2014 >>

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pitch - Reply to #11

Just curious of what bitrate,preset etc you are using.
Some cable isp's around europe are really iffy with their output quality. I had a bunch of issues streaming on a 24/4 adsl where i lived before, mostly because they werent outputting 4mbit up at all times and i also got a fair bit of jitter.

In other words, do all you can to minimize bitrate/output and see if that helps.
I usually stream 720p 30fps at 1200kbit with preset at fast or medium. Works fairly well for quakelive especially if you use high picmip.

<< Comment #18 @ 13:51 CDT, 6 April 2014 >>

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BlaD3 - Reply to #17

Well I tried different settings, even to test on 50 kb/s, yet when it starts sending I get the latency.

But this provider has been unstable for me during the years I've had it really, whatever place I lived at. So I might just change the internet part to VDSL for now and should have fiberglass connection after one or two years here.

<< Comment #19 @ 14:57 CDT, 6 April 2014 >>

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pitch - Reply to #18

uhm, do you get lag spikes while using torrents aswell?
Cause you getting spikes/lag while uploading 50kb/s doesnt seem right at all even for a bad connection.

You are basically sending atleast 25-60kb/s while playing, so i dont see how that could make such a huge impact.

<< Comment #13 @ 09:52 CDT, 6 April 2014 >>

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z3R0`

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Edited by z3R0` at 04:11 CDT, 9 April 2014

<< Comment #15 @ 09:59 CDT, 6 April 2014 >>

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BlaD3 - Reply to #13

Nope, same stuff!

<< Comment #20 @ 03:13 CDT, 7 April 2014 >>

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BlaD3

I have tested streaming from the ADSL connection here (40 mb/4 mb) and it works perfectly. No spikes, no lags, stable stream. Ping (ms) only increases by 3 or 4 points, not more.

I'll switch to this provider :-)

<< Comment #21 @ 02:43 CDT, 9 April 2014 >>

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BlaD3

My still current provider says it probably is a bad functioning modem. They will send me a new one to test that out, because they really really really wanted to keep me as customer! lolol

Will report if it made a difference.

<< Comment #22 @ 12:10 CDT, 9 April 2014 >>

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BlaD3

The new modem I've got from my provider fixed everything. The UBEE modem I had before was apparently complete shit and they knew about that ;-/ Had to threaten to cancel my subscription for them to actually send a new modem to test. Lol ;(

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