Splash Damage?

They do have an unannounced project listed on their site, but then again a lot of game companies are working on multiple games.

edit: nvm, their job openings state "we are about to engage in a very well known and highly popular AAA title with next gen technology," but they all list ue3/4 experience as requirements.

Yeah that sounds worse than I imagined. I figured they scrapped it once to make a game that wasn't shit, not every 4 months. It's also interesting that it seems like it's id management that's fucking everything up and zenimax is mostly letting them be independent.

Depending on who they contract out the multiplayer to could actually be a good, but I doubt id is going to accommodate engine changes for multiplayer after their tech team just quit or provide good post release patch support.

I can't help but disagree with this part:

The lack of professionalism: Expect lots of inappropriate jokes, comments and a generally unprofessional work environment. Our HR director quit recently over the many internal issues.

I remember reading an interview about epic and cliff said they used to watch videos of people getting decapitated and stuff before they got an HR department and the company started to lose its soul. So much of Masters of Doom is about the lax, but dedicated work environment. Id's games are famous for being edgy and controversial. You can't really make a game with that kind of soul if you need to be professional at work.

I remember reading an interview about epic and cliff said they used to watch videos of people getting decapitated and stuff before they got an HR department and the company started to lose its soul. So much of Masters of Doom is about the lax, but dedicated work environment. Id's games are famous for being edgy and controversial. You can't really make a game with that kind of soul if you need to be professional at work.

I'd attribute more to that being their own company in the 90s. A self run company in the 90s operates drastically different than a corporate company in the 2000s. it's all about being PC, the second you have an HR dept it's just over.

The guy has a point though, I would expect professionalism if I were to be employed by that company. This isn't pre-apple in the garage, they're making million dollar games.

We really don't know what he (she?) means by unprofessional though. It could really be something terrible, and if so many people have left that tells me that there really is a serious problem.

please dont blame external producer for your inability to adapt to anything thats not q3.

Please stop thinking that Quake 4 out of the box was a game worth playing.

it wasnt.

but do i have to remind q3 became playable online after introduction of cpma netcode?:>

How... what? That is irrelevant to what your first post was about.

Quake 4 wasn't shit because of netcode only.

And graphics engine
And sound engine (besides the very much rare at the time openal)
And complete lack of good maps/levels
And complete lack of "competitive" features, that all contemporary games had
And game balance and gameplay, including it being a bad q3 copy, hitboxes among many others
And a long etcetera
And that's just the MP side of things.


Q4's MP took years to be fixed. That's how fucked up it was, furthermore to reach that step the engine, movement and gameplay had to be completely tweaked, making the 1.0 release a way different game than in what in the last patch.

Lol you could say the same about ql compared to q3 in the first 1-2 years :)

the only difference in being shit right after release between q3 and q4 was locked fps. Which was actually a smart move at that time, considering only a few had pc's good enough to run past the limit.


and if i think about it, both q3 and UT had perfect timing, hitting the moment when a lot of people got broadband internet.

It was for newcomers

q4 was not out of the box

shut your whoremouth cookie. q3 ftw #reckd

ouch

Was anyone still looking forward to it anyway?

It's interesting in what setting will it take place. Mars? Hell? Earth? Future? Future-future? Will there be more than 2 enemies on screen?

Set in a near future. The setting and story have been changed so that it takes place on earth and you are fighting zombies.

Slow movement, carry only 2 weapons at the time. linear gameplay where you move down a corridor all the time and can't go anywhere else. QuickTime events in bossbattles and when you are getting "jumped upon" by a monster that came out of nowhere. Regenerating health, no secrets, all weapons are random spread hitscans.

I loled when in some review of new wolfenstein guy said "IT'S SOOO HARDCOOOORE OLDSCHOOL IT DOESN'T REGENERENT >>ALL<< HEALTH" :)))

Anything about DLC?

Of course there is. There is the pre-order shotgun that deals 4 times the normal damage in multplayer and cannot be picked up by non-preorder palyers. There is the weapons dlc that includes the weapons that should have been in the game already and then there is the eXtreme weapons pack that retextures the weapons.

Also there is the lost missions pack that makes you play two 5 minute maps for only 10 dollars. More dlcs to be announced.

"When all of the teams merged together to create the "new" Doom team 2 years ago, there was around 140+ developers to make the game. Now, there is only around 50."


I read that only 8 people work on the new UT

8 pros with thousands of fan colaborating. Cant compare. Not saying its going to work tho.

thousands of fan colaborating :DDDDD
UT best mmo 2014

He/she is clearly counting artists as developers in this case, of which there are many for textures/models/maps/sounds. That many programmers wouldn't make sense, unless you were working on something like windows lol.

Wasn't the Doom 3 multiplayer part also developed by an external team?

Anyway it's safe to not expect anything exceptional on the multiplayer side of the game, the weapon system inevitably pushes more toward a futuristic call of duty style, than a real fast paced fps.

It would already be much if it was funny to play online for a while.

HMMM, SOUND FAMILIAR? (quake 4)

No, quake 4 was entirely developed by Raven, not just the MP portion.

Id wrote the doom3 engine upon which it is based, but didn't do anything for either the SP or MP aspects of Quake 4 until the later point releases.

such as 1gb demos? :D

here's brilliant plan

fire all the people that work on it right now
hire back devs from quake 3
let them do the gameplay/levels and put it onto rage engine
hire some random crap company to make sp for cutting costs
outsource some capable dev team for making matchmaking background in style of sc2 (pay them all the cash they want)
?????????????
PROFIT


:(

OMG my nipples are hard

alternatively:

- release level-editor
- let community people create maps and story
- see where it leads to

Beta started popopopooo

http://doom-beta.wolfenstein.com/en-us/

I'll stay optimistic until its released.... and just keep playing doom 1 & 2.

Could be a good thing if more time is spent on it. However at a fundamental level you can still pretty much guarantee it'll be of the same, slow-paced, casual-friendly breed that the rest of the games industry is producing.

who knows, judging by the rage engine itself the movement, et cetera - it felt like it's ready for putting arena game into it (way better than d3, aside of texture problems it is really well written peace of code in my opinion), too bad they are wasting their last chance to get back in the biz

sad to see what's becoming of id :/

they've been piss since like the 2000s

dno, i quite liked doom3 and quake4. even tho i only played single player back then

same. q4 was decent back when you were just having fun in fps and didn't know about 125fps and netcode and all that shit

I get why it's hated but gameplay wise the shit was fun

yeah true, back when i didn't give 2 fucks for 125 fps, picmip, 30ms and 120hz i really enjoyed the games. now i can't even play a singleplayer game for longer than 10 mins :<

Come on Quake 4 had so much backtracking and waiting for random faggots to open doors. Why?????????????????????
Why the fuck I need to reload in Quake? D::::::

Damn, I totally forgot that we had to reload.

I wonder what was the first shooter where you needed to reload every few seconds...

I don't know about reloading every few seconds but apparently the first shooters to introduce reloading were light-gun shooters, Marathon and GoldenEye.

Right, they made FPSs for Nintendo64 D:

And technically you had to reload the super shotgun in Doom 2 all the time but I guess that doesn't count :p

The best 3 frame animation in all times : )))))

HL2 :p

story of my life man. it's like everything else got ruined for me. i've fulled played like two single player games in five years maybe.

i feel you man. back then i specially enjoyed rts games. it's not like i didn't play starcraft online, but it didn't have the same effect on me as quake. now i cba even playing starcraft campaign, let alone any other rts.

:(

is there a fix? I always wondered if it was me or the games. maybe I enjoy games the same but everything is shit. maybe I'm getting out of it and the games are fine. could be either.

Where are the vibrant happy games like we had in the SNES era? everything is post-apocalyptic depressing instagram-filter looking.

well, one of rare single player games i enjoyed recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFMeWia7jIQ&a...66FEmiGfLX

nice, I should check it out.

ever play Braid? sick game. only played that and Sonic Generations the past like four years. still can't get over how awesome braid is

never played braid. downloading now.

accepting pm with beta keys

tolerating them as well, as long as you stay polite

Lets face it, its not going to be as smooth, balanced and fun as Quake Live. Its going to need a ton of work to get it to work like it should and as an acceptable standard for us esr brethren. For all I care they can make Doom 4 SP only and spare us all the effort of chasing something that is never going to replace QL.

oh i dont expect it to replace ql, at all. i just hope its got the basics down to a half decent state. i dont even expect matchmaking or well worked out and balanced online play to begin with, even if thats the standard to keep an mp game alive these days. (and be on steam :P )

Well let's just hope daddy Zenimax doesn't figure d4 multiplayer should be the replacement for qlive.

I just want a fun game that isn't stale and dead like QL is.

I don't care about netcode and all this shit anymore. if it's fun it's fun, and I want deathmatch fun.

It sounds like we might not even get fun at all.