quake live has a new policy banning gays

Not true, I'm not banned.

you are a morbidly obese whale mongo

Looool you fondle your children

so?

Pics?

rofl 1v1 IRL??

Ah yes. ESReality, the place where everyone knows exactly why you're banned but just won't tell you.

because u touch urslf at night

because someone reported you with a demo

Oh shit, forgot to ask the obvious.

Did you cheat?

ofc not but i had problems with someone who accused me of cheating and boom. Now i can't play :D

"Iv'e been banned because someone reported me with that demo. Why they banned me?"

why do you ask a question in sentence #2 that you answered perfectly in sentence #1 already?

Age: 15

Can't even load that demo. Must be cheating :]

youtube link or stfu

use wolfcam

edit: go down this thread

http://www.igmdb.org/?page=render

Edit: Or stfu.

i can't :(

it seems to be very clear

I don't see hacks in this demo and in fact i never used cheats

What makes you think you were banned for a game two and a bit weeks ago anyway.

http://www.quakelive.com/r/profile/matches/Ko...1fd90/ca/1

Oh god not this thunderstuck LG drama again

inb4 heartess reply,,, :O)

edited: the demo has been released by feschio (the reporter) check them

And how does your 'friend' have any idea that that was the demo that was submitted to staff?

The staff don't tend to talk about and certainly never release the demos submitted to support.

This.

And why this DePaS guy has deleted his fake account influx?

i didn't know that he deleted his account. Not my problem

How would deleting the account help?

not depas fault anyway i think

How do you know for sure this demo was the reason they banned you? Did support send it to you?

Also consider that cheating is not the only cause for banning someone. Others are a particularly bad mouth, racism, harassing and whatnot. For instance, you seem like the usual lolca 1v1 raging flaming retard, so that might be the reason Kappa

The email that they have sent me when i asked why i've been banned (support@quakelive.com) was talking about software of third part.

Maybe you think that im the "usual lolca raging etc" but i just wanted to try how it was doing a 1v1 lg vs depas and he completly defeated me.

The demos were sent to my friend from the same reporter.
But ofc i can't prove this with real staff.

At least you can suggest me others competitive games that are similiar to quake so that i won't quit gaming. (not warsow)

edit: Feschio released the demos

[+]'d for not warsow.

The usual suggestion in cases where a ban was incorrectly applied is to do the following:
1. Contact support directly.
2. If that fails, ask syncerror directly via irc or pm here (or by making a drama thread on ESR). He is the guy in charge of the game, a different person than the one that issues the bans.
3. If that fails, just circumvent the ban as it's absurdly easy.

The last step is the last case scenario, because doing that would mean not officially going back to the game (in good terms with the admins), the admins will try to ban you again and certainly won't get your account back; but it's a choice.

I know it sounds bad for the game to post this, but support has banned numerous people wrongly.

edit: and it goes without saying that if you did cheat, pls leave kwak and go to the where banned cheaters go: xonotic (or make a fragmovie).

Sums it up right there

M'kay.

I reported korner yesterday night for aim assist and he got banned in less than an hour.

I don't have the exact ticket I sent but it was very similar to this explanation:

Pack of demos: http://www.mediafire.com/download/a3hckeewhtajcmk/korner.rar

Most relevant demos are demo2, demo4 and demo5.

In demo2 we insist that he tries to aim at the legs, knowing that aimbots are often set to aim at a default height. He categorically refuses, adding no reason to it other than "I don't like it that way"

In demo4 he loses the first two rounds hitting around 40. He then stops completely, not moving his xhair/switching weapon/talking in chat. The next two round he wins, hitting 48. Again, he stops completely and he goes back to hitting around 40, losing the match 10-2.

In demo5 you can see him trying to aim at the feet and hitting 25% as a result.

He always aims at the exact same height, just below the head, which is a very difficult way to shaft. Two weeks before these demos were taken he was a total scrub, hitting <30 against terrible opponents, now suddenly he is hitting 50 lg on depas who, if you don't know, is one of the best lger out there, excelling in DODGE.

Also funny how I sent you a pack of 5 demos and you are only showing the one where you lost 10-2 here.

So if you don't aim at the legs you are a cheater.
Oh i can send a lot of demos that represent me trying to aim the legs just for demonstration. edit: i did it

Even those facts could be completely randomly and they don't prove nothing. Im sorry if i stop playing because my friends on steam likes to spam me. If you watched the demo at Low speed you can see that i never hit at the same height, you can check whenever you want.

Two weeks before these demos were taken he was a total scrub, hitting <30 against terrible opponents, now suddenly he is hitting 50 lg on depas who, if you don't know, is one of the best lger out there, excelling in DODGE.
---we never played togheter until this, you were spying me or what? Anyway i wasn't a "scrub".


Also funny how I sent you a pack of 5 demos and you are only showing the one where you lost 10-2 here. How convenient huh?

--- sorry if i can't post more than 1 file, im newbie here
but i said to yakumo that i could send the demos whenever he want
edit: demos released

"In demo5 you can see him trying to aim at the feet and hitting 25% as a result.

---maybe because im vs depas and i never tried hitting feets

---I played a lot with idoser and he told me that it's just a question of taste. He aim at the top but he's not a cheater. And i learned a lot from him, that's another reason of why i aim the top.

>So if you don't aim at the legs you are a cheater.
Oh i can send a lot of demos that represent me trying to aim the legs just for demonstration.

That's not what I said, if you are not able to aim below a certain height you are most likely a cheater.

>Even those facts could be completely randomly and they don't prove nothing. Im sorry if i stop playing because my friends on steam likes to spam me. If you watched the demo at Low speed you can see that i never hit at the same height, you can check whenever you want just don't confuse me with influx pov.

I know how aimbots work, they basically make the xhair go toward the center of the enemy at a certain height at a speed that you can set. Slight movement of the mouse on the y axis are going to result in very slight movement of the xhair. You keep aiming at that same height without performing major corrections even when you are walking on stairs or your enemy is jumping. No, i didn't confuse you with influx pov, i know how /follow works thank you.

>o you really think that if i had aim assist i could lose 10 | 2???? funny.

Yes I do

>please. 1v1 is different than 4v4 and i don't hit 50 on depas.

I agree, it is indeed different in the fact that shafting clueless opponents behind their back is easier than shafting a skilled dodger actively trying to dodge your lg in an open space. As you know influx is depas' fake and you were hitting 50 on him in the thirs and fourth rounds, after stopping completely for the first time and before doing it again.


>I played a lot with idoser and he told me that it's just a question of taste. He aim at the top but he's not a cheater. And i learned a lot from him, that's another reason of why i aim the top.

So what? Idoser improved steadily playing for months 1v1 lg. You start hitting incredible amounts out of nowhere with 15 days of playtime against scrubs, blaming all of your sudden improvement on 'cfg changes'.

>in demo5 you can see uraz and another dude saying that im not cheating, and with every "skilled player" he mean his friends.

Actually uraz agreed that you cheat after watching the demo. They didn't think you were cheating because they saw you trying to aim at the feet and hitting 20%.

With skilled players I mean:
Depas
Teuz4
Luc1s
Insaccato
Knoxe
Uraz
These are just the skilled ones that I got to talk about your case with. Have yet to see a skilled player take your defenses

>the rest of the list it's full of words and nothing else. Just air.

Are you kidding me? Just say you are trolling so we can all share a laugh and go home.

You come on esr talking shit about me, saying that I'm a rager, that I'm the kind of person who can't stand better players, and I go around reporting them? And you expect me to not even defend myself from these accusations?

>Lot of my friends started having issues with people that started calling them cheaters. I can't accept this.

Get their names out, I didn't accuse accuse anyone other than you and the guy I previously mentioned.

Jesus, how do all you guys know how cheats work.
Because I have no clue D:

nice try ;)

do you think that this dude it's me? Nice try you 2

yes, he thinks this guy who has 3.7k posts and registered 11 years ago is you. are you retarded?

i just don't check every profile. I have better things to do at the moment. Sorry

Like what? Because it's certainly not playing quake!

like sending e-mails to the support.

If you don't have time to click a profile, how have you time to read and reply to all the posts in this thread?!

OP IS A BIG FAT PHONY!!!

i've trained my self in writing skills sending the emails. I did this reply in 0.46

Thank you for furthering the point I made.

This means you should have had even MORE time to click the profile.

You win.

How would you know about cheat configurations, if you had not tried them?
Feschio is starting to look mighty guilty here.

Maybe his brother downloaded them while Feschio was in the other room practicing his guitar.

Good read, but...
Teuz4 n luc1s hit harder than serious :(
How? 8))))))))

they set up their bots better? :D

GJ FESCHSTER

but u got one thing wrong... seriously!

he got one thing wrong too. I'm not a cheater

ssshhh.. only dreams now

what are you talking about ?

I'm sorry for not being serious here. I know its an important topic for u

i just don't want to stop playing quake that's all. oh wait, is serious the player? Do you think that im "serious"???

No i dont think that. Serious been entertaining.

ah ok so think what you want and enjoy your life :D

:----D

lel man..

No hate. Just fun.

good one.

(C) Alokin

i heard your story, lolz. That's why they are so paranoid about me.

yuuuuuuuuuuup.

lol knoxe do you Serious think that im cheating? Serious?

Didnt watch the demos. So i cant tell if u cheat. I dont even care, as long as u dont play on my server. But i trust feschios judgment, so go play lol dota or some other game.

you chose the bad person to trust, really. Watch the demos or don't comment/troll

Your demos look fucked up to me. Normal people don't keep their LG pinned at the same height constantly.

demo5 2:28

i play quake since many years on CA , and according to feshio's talk this guy must be cheating , in fact its very hard to hit lg this way.

10/10 didn't checked

I agree with feschio. The crosshair position says everything

Yes? Tell me what is strange please im curiuos

p.s he is a feschio's friend.

when you start shooting, the crosshair is locked on the upper model and not moving a little bit up or down, like m_pitch 0.

not so true. I can still send you the demos that show that i can aim whenever i want

edit: Up in the title: the demos

or maybe because i was high senser

watching the third demo (korner3), with timescale 0.1, when you start shooting your crosshair raise on the upper enemy model and it stays locked there (last 2 rounds). it's strange that at that distance you aim precisely at that height

it still doesn't prove nothing... still trying to upload the demos

Yes it does. More so because, before finding out that we can actually watch the demo from your pov with /follow, you were denying that you always aimed at the exact same height.

if i aim the top i aim the top. It's hard to fail and get the legs, It's just like if you aim the legs, it's impossible for you to hit the head. Sure that you watched my pov in slow motion?

The only thing missing here is some italian slander.

and the mafia

Non mi frega una sega

complete respect

I thought italians always shoot the legs huehue

sraty taty dupa w kraty (gl with google translate :D)

this forum it's so funny i must post threads more usually

Ask zhu

ok

I already told you what my relationship with the game is like.
When we played those matches I had already been warned that you were probably cheating and I player only to watch you and eventually gather evidence as I did.

You're not the first player who beats me (at 1v1lgthunderstruck lul?) with less time played than me and I don't see why you would be different.

Love the drama that unfolds here.

Who won? I see some demo of some dude shooting people instead of engaging them in intelligent conversation.

trying to have a ts conversation since the ban

Before submitting the ticket I wanted to talk to you about it, too bad you had already unfriended me for some reson :^)

Anyway I'm not on pc and nobody told me that you wanted to talk to me.

I unfriended you because i discovered that you and depas lied to me about the story of the fake influx. You just played with me to make some kind of demo that could apparently ban me (still don't know how they successed in this lol)

lot of shits happened eh

Ye, a fake didn't want you to know his real account, how weird!

don't joke about this, multiaccount it's a violation i think

It's ok to have two accounts according to the TOS.

Ty for the information but i still don't like fakes

Oh hai.

How's your life with that ban

Really bad. I spent a lot of my time on quake and now i don't know what to do.

dota. its easier and you can flame ppl allday. really fun.

why not World of Tanks?

i am starting to think you deserve the ban :D

Just joking omg. CoD is better

CoD ?

You def deserved the ban.

I said CoD? i mean Happy Wheels...

Do you feel a need to unban yourself or start a new account

You can always start a promising albeit late Tetris career

lol nop

I know but no one will demo you in Tetris

<3

i don't care i just want to return training

that's why i made this post

Well duh, what did QL support tell you because I am unable to compute this drama?

They told you it's a non-negotiable ban or what

bans are negotiable? I don't think so :D

anyway they didn't tell nothing about that

Negotiable or not, you are posting this on a community forum not affiliated with id in any conceivable way. All you can get here is pity or mockery, no one on ESR has the power or authority to ban or unban players.

You're going to have to step in contact with id employees either via irc (#quakelive) or email (support@quakelive.com)

good luck

Well duh if you're banned for a wrong reason and can prove it, they will unban you. It's not like you're shot or something

If you can prove you're clean ofc

The real mistake it's how they can prove that im cheating with those demos. It's not about how i can prove im clean. The 80% of those demos are Influx pov.

Doesn't matter, can watch from any players POV while they're in the recorders Potentially Visible Set (PVS).
It's not perfect but it's normally more than good enough.

and it's not really an issue on TS : )

You need to talk to Syncerror man

Hes the head honcho here in ql and if he says GTfo it's his way or highway but you might try that avenue.

And yeah it's from other player's perspective do you think that cheaters demo themselves and send it to support lol

feschio has already posted the demos and admitted that he is the reporter. Let's see what happen...

I've seen the demos and there's absolutely nothing wrong with him, aiming at legs brings an advantage when trying to track people in a higher or lower position as its easier to do so, but in an lg duel on the same altitude it makes no absolute difference wheter you aim at legs or not, infact keeping the mouse steady vertically and focusing more on horyzontal movement is a viable method of playing.
I've seen this guy practising lg duels non stop for a while now, i dont see how he would be able to cheat against a stronger player wich i think he sees just as a way to get better. He just isnt the type of person that simply cheats after training a shit ton of time, that would be pointless

I already get banned for suspicious activity and i never used cheats, that's the point of the situation.

> I've seen the demos and there's absolutely nothing wrong with him, aiming at legs brings an advantage when trying to track people in a higher or lower position as its easier to do so, but in an lg duel on the same altitude it makes no absolute difference wheter you aim at legs or not, infact keeping the mouse steady vertically and focusing more on horyzontal movement is a viable method of playing.

Explain how it is easier to track people on a different height compared to tracking them on the same ground.

> I've seen this guy practising lg duels non stop for a while now, i dont see how he would be able to cheat against a stronger player wich i think he sees just as a way to get better. He just isnt the type of person that simply cheats after training a shit ton of time, that would be pointless

Sorry but as long as you post anonymously you can't really talk on that matter.

I'm not the anon from above but you have to be a shitty aimer to not know that it's easier to aim when you're on the lower level with lg. I looked at the demo and i don't see anything suspicious. I think you're just angry that he beat you.

What do you think, tony.

(pls post in italian)

I just taught korner how to upload a file on dropbox. He didn't even know what a .rar was.
Cheater? Be serious, people

Cheater? Be serious, people

Not sure if trolling or something.

add him on steam it's cool guy

I don't have a Steam account. :)

make it it's izi

"Not sure if trolling or something."

*

Arguing that hes not capable of running cheats because hes retarded actually makes him even more guilty, as its mostly retards using cheats.

ty for your answer

Sorry to break it to you guys but cheating in ql isn't exactly rocket science. Five minutes on google are more than enough.

More importantly, korner comes from a clan where a player has already been banned for hacks and there are other suspected players.

What are you saying. Who is the player?

The name is"Rosi_Bindi".

you mean "Rosi_Bindi1337"? Fuck i knew it

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Okay.

Some people will probably hate me for this but : I don't think he's cheating.

I have to admit that I didn't watch the demos but at least when i played him (I lost twice against him actually) he seemed beatable. Games were close but i still had more maps win than him.
Tho I agree that someone can still be cheating EVEN IF you beat him. And like I said, I didn't watch the demos...

Recently he's been practicing a lot against idoser, the later is a good friend of mine, and we play lg duels A LOT. (idoser is the dude that beat toxjq 10:2 in lg duel, and also serious :)).
And I've seen him online and playing a lot lately... I guess his practice method paid off ?

I trully feel sry for him, because let's be honest, when quake is in your heart, and you can't play it, it's fucking lame and sad....

...when quake is in your heart, and you can't play it, it's fucking lame and sad....

Tell me about it. And I didn't even cheat. :(

:(

Thats why we need somebody from id to reconsider the matter.

I've never seen a cheater come to gaming baord of a game in which he's suposed to cheat and confess so openly and without any meandering.

I think that korn3r is legit and his behavior proves that he's no computer whiz who hax, just a normal guy trying to get better at quake.

korn3r, don't drop the ball now. Either you're persistent or you lose the battle. You must not stop otherwise it will end up like this: Nobody cares, case closed. The QL support has banned many people due to wrong reasons, these devs are just people they do make mistakes. If you fight for your cause I bet you will get back on track soon.

Don't think about training now. You won't train shit if you don't have quake. So prioritize your options and concentrate on 50m target.

Post here, post on QL forums, send mails to support, try to get a hold of id devs on irc, or ask people to help you out in that regard.

kinda funny to hear it from guy with nickname He4rTL3sS

Sorry but if you haven't even watched the demos and read my explanation you don't really get to defend him.

yeah i'm gonna watch the demos i think =)

tell me what do you think please

i watched demo2 demo4 and demo5 from the videos uploaded below by *b0se.

i don't understand what is suspicious there :p. Maybe i should watch the demos instead of the videos.

still after watching the videos, i still think that you're legit.

BUT

i have to play you more and watch you play more ;)

but for the time being you're not cheating imo.

i cand send all the demos you want but im still banned ...

Lol what is the point in watching the vid from another pov? :/

yakumo explained me about this np

questa mattina non sono potuto venire su ts, se vuoi dimmi un altro orario dove ti fai trovare vengo volentier

Come ts right fucking now, I told you 10 times

ofc

yap :D

THE KING OF TUNDERSTRUCK HAS SPOKEN

I don't give a sh1t. I'm just trolling him a little.

He might be a cheater, he might be not, I'm giving him some benefit of the doubt. Sue me. Im actually curious whether he's what he says he is, namely a sad, unloved, hurt newbie that was GRINDED BY THE SYSTEM and TOSSED TO THE WOLVES and ShiT.

No matter how it turns out, it's the QL support that makes the decision so that entire DRAMA and HORROR and ITALY here is pointless imo, but makes for good reading.

I'm still waiting for more emotions and pain and crap.

If he's a cheater thank Arena Gods that his macaroni ass was banned. And may he cheat in Angry Birds and get 45% acc with red bird there.

I'm still wondering why we even talk about this as it's Sync's and QLSupport's job to decide on this guy, we can make this or that opinion and thats all.

macaroni ass.

new bind in my cfg ty

sad u cant use it anymore

you are sad too

Can someone with an account make vods (IGMDB) of the demos, and YT it up in here? :)

(in HD 60 fps, thats apparently possible nowadays)

Doing it myself now - can't choose 60fps (not a donator).

I'll post them up once rendered.

ty

i can make 60fps if you give me demos

You can download the demos in the title

The 30fps vods are below, along with a post/demo link if you feel the need to render again :)

maybe ban is for something else?

Np you are the next. Best friend of wolf_ql (banned)

best friend?

I added the guy and we played together.

he used wallhack, i only found out by watching demo's... as other people told me watching his pov said he used wh, i was unaware of this because i hardly died and watched his POV...

Aimbot also, no doubt on it, and i think you've enough brain to undestand that :-D

But when i looked at the stats it says he usually gets around 45 but aimbots=99%easy

The only thing i can think of is that be spams the lg to reduce acc

I just want to know if it is possible to ban someone for cheating while that person is not really cheating. I'm enough sure about considering korner a cheater. I've been reported thoudands of times (i just know nordag and zprecker reporting me) and i've never been banned. Korner has been banned by just 1 report from Feschio. Then i remember (i don't know if i've demo) on ca1v1eyeyoeye he used to pwn me from long distande with lg (his hp after fight were avg 100-120) and i used to own him close distance. If you are used to face cheaters you will surely know that those shithumans try to go far from you to use their aimbot (i remember an italian cheater called Ferruccio that used to pwn me 55lg from long and just 26 close, now banned) and i'm sad to say i recognized in korner this way to play. I'm also sad because i defended him va feschio before the ban, i saw in him --> me accused of cheating.. now after this ban i'm quite sure i was wrong in defending him. The only thing i really want to know is if it is possible to ban for cheating a clean player for a judgement error..but i don't think so, because i would have been banned since 2005 (yep, i'm reported in RTCW also etc coz i'm shaky). So, is it possible to ban a clean guy? If no, korner should stfu and go away, or at least ask sorry to you all, and to me..defending him.....korner č pił dignitoso scusarsi, mi trovi molto deluso.

non sono io che devo scusarmi

Which is always going to be the first cry to the public of someone banned , no matter how damning the evidence the staff hold.

Can you tell me a precise explanation of what wrong you can see on this demo? Because I really can't see anything. If you think that I cheated or something like that, tell me the exact moment when I do something unnatural.

edit: ty for your guide anyway, it helped a lot

zpercker reports ppl for rocket aimbot np

we would know if someone send in a demo of tox playing under a fake nick, and tox tells us then.

wasnt there once someone upload a demo by cypher and everybopdy was 100% it was wallhacker

Regarding your first question: random triggers of the anticheats, resulting in banning a innocent gamer, happen every now and then

Se potresti spiegarmi in italiano cosa intendevi dire, potrei capire meglio cosa intendi

non si applica al tuo caso

grazie comunque, almeno tu potresti spiegarmi cosa vedi di innaturale in queste demo? L'unico che potrebbe aver cittato qui č depas/influx, ha pure vinto. Un cheater metterebbe i cheats per vincere mica per perdere 10 a 2. Non ha senso.

francamente non ci capisco molto in campo aim assistant e simi, ma soprattutto me ne frega meno di una sega del merito della faccenda, son qui per le varie polemiche, e tantomeno c'ho nessuna voglia scaricarle le demo :D

x) e chi puo darti torto

Speak english you black son of a bitch.

ban for racism?

Don't be so sensitive.

i can say the same thing

Please do. :)

1080p VODS

(Using the demos referenced in Feschio's post - http://www.esreality.com/post/2625254/need-he...pid2625494)

Demo 2


Demo 4


Demo 5 (avail when processed)

first video translation (chat story)

Feschio: Try to aim the legs
korner: I never did it
Feschio: Try
korner:It's not useful
influx/DePaS: Try
korner: i already tried it
influx/DePaS: It's useful to improve your self | (really??)
korner: now wait me
influx/DePaS: retry
influx/DePaS: we can advise you | (or maybe just report me with no reason)
___________________________________________________

second video translation

korner: did i see you somewhere? (starting suspect the fake)
influs/DePaS: hf
korner: hf
feschio: he played not much
influx/DePaS: boh
feschio: he's an old school (refered to Influx/depas)
korner: si sente (It means: i can feel it (about he is an old school)
korner: da dodge
influx:: lagg
influx: :(
korner: i see
korner: ping ping
korner: oh shit..
korner: hz?
Influx: 60 (plz)
korner: holyshit
influx: you
korner: 85 (now i have crt 120 hz)
korner: you do a lot of damage..
influx: :D
influx: gg
______________________________________________

third video translation

DePaS/influx: hf
URAZ (Spec): he says korner cheats (this is new for me)
DePaS: asd
fusion (Spec): dueld him and didnt feel like he cheatsD
URAZ (Spec): so probably Depas just trolled me :D
korner: come on
DePaS: sorry
DePaS: my aim is infinite
korner: lelel
URAZ (Spec): i don't see anything :D
fusion: (Spec): yes

-at 2:43 you can hear a bip: i said that i will start aiming legs
you can see the message pausing the video in exactly one moment, someone liked to remove this message. Here i say : che dici se ora inizio a mirare ai piedi? (what do you think if now i start aiming legs?

URAZ (Spec): well maybe he is witouth cheats now cuz of specs (in the first 2 videos there were no specs unless feschio, the reporter)
korner: yeah
korner: i'll start doing it(aim the legs, unfortunetly it's not happened :D)
URAZ: Stop cheating DePaS
korner: wtf?
DePaS: what is
in3r: pussy you have spammed my chat in 12 (LOLZ)
in3r: die (LOLZ)
URAZ: no worries korner im reporting on DePaS (lul)
korner: wat?
URAZ: im recording demo :DD
DePaS: bastard
in3r: my god ban DePaS
DePas; fiu

I dont see anything I would call out as cheat here, more like paranoia if anyone did.

i think this too, but the problem is : they have banned me. I just want answers

Demo 5 0:35
starts shooting before the bot locks on the enemy gg

He passed behind me, just a nice move
A bot wouldnt make a 360 to start tracking again. but just follow the enemy. Don't you think this too?

nice try, enjoy your ban

Edit: that was easy

Nice try you too

[+] for making this drama easier to appreciate
mmm drama

Played the guy few weeks ago on my alt.
Aerowalk duel however is the worst indication of any cheat usage
was a really easy game, he had no clue how to play duel.
His aim was ok but I wasn't shocked by the lg nor was it extremely strong.
it was however almost a month ago so : /

Made a mistake xD

: D
lost my rares on vg

Mine on eg -.-

Just wanna add that aiming at the same hight on a plain level is not an indicator because he might use kinzu or another heavy prediction mouse so you have to check is regular ch movements and compare it when he lgs. Looks rather suspecious and can't be prediction because he starts the fight at a lower ch position and goes back to the same spot over and over again.

i have a 50€ mouse (logitech g400s)

i aim the top so there are less mouse corrections, the movement is just horizontal and not semi vertical like aiming the legs. I said "semi-vertical" because if your enemy go away from you, you have to raise up your xhair

//AIM

seta sensitivity 4.35 //400 dpi
seta cl_mouseAccel "0"
seta cl_mouseAccelOffset "0"
seta cl_mouseSensCap "0"
seta cl_mouseAccelStyle "0"
seta in_mouse "1"
seta m_filter "1"
seta m_yaw "0.022"
seta m_pitch "0.022"
seta m_forward "0.22"
seta m_side "0.22"


fov 93

eww, m_filter

That feels more smooth?

Maybe back in 1999.

no accel? you deserve to be banned

im italian.

g400s is MSRP ~35€

mediaworld fucked me

What?
Aim at legs = move mouse down tiny amount once, lift off and replace at position you're happy with after if you really must.
Then the rest of all movement identical to when not aiming at the legs.

What?
Invert mouse = move mouse up tiny amount once, lift off and replace at position you're happy with after if you really must.
Then the rest of all movement identical to when not aiming at the legs.

so do you think that is better?

what does "ch" mean?

crosshair

...............xhair is better

Not impressed.

http://challenge-tv.com/demos/view/34851

Quake3 cpm demo

watch and learn

is the m_filter the problem?

m_filter compares 2 mouse "frames" and adds a third that is the middle value to smooth out the mousemovement. This means a small amount of lag is added. The lag is negligible with modern hardware though.

thanks you i think i'll set it on 0

You are banned you cant set anything

Unless...

i can still write in the config

never giving up the hope!

fuck man you are funny xD

but but I found it in Hal's cfg :(

Seriously tho, I know some people like it. I believe stermy has it on 1. Yep, just checked.

Yeah I know :)

Again, on modern hardware it doesn't matter all that much.

i took m filter from hal cfg too

I think we're talking about a different Hal :). I mean the CPM'er, not Stermy's brother.

ah ok x).

Give me your config wanna check something

done

None of this will help you get unbanned.

he just asked the cfg

So, how's your Ban Life Story unfolding?

Did you get a reply from support? Did you try to contact them?

Do you know that even your children will be banned from QL? SyncError has a long memory.

i tried to contact them. Still waiting answers

Give it some time, right now their priority is patching up the game and making sure the steam release won't be a fiasco.

It will be a fiasco, no matter what.

This community is far too vocal and entitled to not piss off at least 30% of the player base when things go to steam. And, supposedly, the gameplay updates are to happen before steam, anyway(iirc).

TL:DR: I'm nervous.

Just calm down, go listen to some k-pop : 3 :

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but did you spray axe on them letters?

Do you think that this will save quake live from the death?

You mean you getting unbanned will save Quake Live?

I MEAN STEAM ...

Who the hell knows. This game needs an enema.

What do you practice and train in now since you're banned?

...ok, i decided to play tf2 until i get my account back. The competitive is not so bad

Edit: Hats

i don't think he's cheating,bravi depas e feschio avete fatto passi da giganti su quake

Io mi sono chiarito in teamspeak con korner e anche lui ha capito le ragioni per cui ho avuto i miei sospetti. Voglio sottolineare ancora che nč io nč depas siamo le cause di questo ban, tutto quello che ho fatto č stato mandare una demo al supporto per farli controllare e loro lo hanno trovato colpevole. Sono stato io a reportarlo ma eravamo in tanti a essere convinti che avesse aim assist.

Potresti anche evitare di nasconderti dietro all'anonimo

Beh non esageriamo, avrņ anche mosso la testa su e gił quando hai detto quelle cose a caso approposito dell'aim assist ma chiariti č una parola un po' grossa.

di certo dopo avermi reportato per cheating non mi state simpatici, ma per il momento sono incazzato con il support e non con voi, alcune persone preferisco ignorarle.

Qualcuno mi ha spiegato che siccome il personale della id per il momento č occupato a gestire l'entrata di quake live su steam, le probabilitą che qualcuno abbia fatto un lavoro affrettato sulle demo sono parecchio alte.

Posso solo aspettare che il support mi risponda ma questa faccenda di steam č per ora la loro prioritą.

Feschio said that

"I reported korner yesterday night for aim assist and he got banned in less than an hour."


How could the support reed the feschio's opinions and checked accuratly five demos in less than one hour, it's strange.

I think that this steam fact is creating some problems...

what makes you think they need to watch 5 demos? maybe they have a tool for detection, maybe not.

maybe they saw it straight away from the first session.

quake doesn't use VAC protection

was referring to a tool for detection while reviewing a demo of yours.

obviously ql doesn't have VAC ...

Do you think that it will be more efficent than the reports of some stranger?

no one exactly knows how they determine (unless its blatantly obvious for the human eye) if someone hacks or not.

speculations are just brainfappage at this point.

i did see some cases where someone was falsely banned and it got reversed the same evening (due to heavy complaints on irc).

in that sense, if you're innocent - good luck.

mmm

Certainly no fuck was given on the day korner got banned.

BTW, I strongly suggest that you drop that drama and liaise with QL support. if you didnt use any hacks or assists I bet they ultimately review your case.

If not, you can kiss your Quake ass goodbye. Cheaters will be banned. With no return flight possible.
Thread on ESR has run its course, now it's mainly circle jerking around the campfire with korner as the jerk leader.

No matter what you write here, the ultimate fate of this case lies in communication between you and QL support, unless you hacked whereas you will receive an email informing you that you can GTFO and close the door behind you. Or maybe they even won't answer you.

You're a standard, non-paying player = bottom feeder. You didnt pay for this game and therefore QL support has your ticket hidden at the end of a very long train.

i bet it too, maybe i have just to wait.

Posting in a korn3r thread OpieOP

your gifs makes me laugh everytime :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg

That's how you don't give a fuck.

finally, a david attenborough replacement.

David doesn't care...he just gets what the fuck whe wants.

cba to read everything, btw registered on the 4th february 2014. he's the fakenick of...?

im not a fake. I just played a lot of cs, a lot of tf and a bit of shootmania. Think what you want.

has your brother got a guitar?

i played guitar and piano

lets be friends!
add liliq
won't tell any1)

http://more2.starfall.com/m/more-phonics/lets...amp;d=demo

i'm trying to contact via irc

" p.s i never used hacks. "

I think the comment below is korn3r's answer to your comment. He put "i never used hacks" in OP because I asked a stupid question.

after all the sh*t this guy wrote on this thread...

doing some math:

retardness+CA+Thunderstruck1v1=Cheater

im not Serious

AAAAAAAA yourself ;)

Correct, you are much worse

Are you serious?

I didnt cheat and i've been banned. You cheated and you've been unbanned. Seems legit


Edit: now go hit 99% on idoser

You cheated and u've been banned, I cheated and I HAVEN'T BEEN UNBANNED, dunno where u got that, idiot.

I cheated? plz watch the demos

Edit: banned? Fiu thanks support

I have

I will be glad if you can explain me the "unnatural" things that happens in those demos.

and go look on my last matches, 10/10 duels

you need to talk to account_admin on IRC.
might be able to resolve this with some verification.
gl.

im doing it right now

I just read every single comment, FML :(

Great way to go insane on ESR

Standard esr behaviour Nothing special

The other day I read every comment on the CPL World Tour 2005 Finals thread. :|

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walter'd

Yeah its closed. Korner's short occupation of ESR has come to an abrupt but predictable end. Italian drama is over.

Korn3r, if you can still read this, I still wish you well on that Tetris career. Just don't occupy Tetris forums if your mother demos you cheating in that game too.

Smoke em if you got em

do you like the new title? I just figured out that nobody gives a fuck about people that have been wrongly banned

Better late than never.

You need something to get syncerror's attention.

How about....boobs 3.0 Kreygasm
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1915139

i'm gonna play shootmania if i don't get answers from the support. I didnt hear good things about people that has been banned wrongly.

so that's what they were doing when i've banned.

.ras Stat1c_- noob with pro account
friends with .ogc F1RE (prolly serious)
gives him ref on server while f1re is botting blatantly

So you rose from the ashes...again.

Did you get that answer from QL support? Because here non ESR we can only say this or say that, nothing more.

Proof of you using aim-assist has already been posted in this thread, what else do you want?

aim assist? Please. I was pretty glad that someone posted the demos, but if people like you can't see the difference between natural and unnatural, lol. I don't give a fuck even about what you think unless you are an id employ.

I don't know if you cheated Korn but even if you did, your bot looks like a standard 40lgish and not a stupid 90lg where there is no possibility to do anything against it, so who cares ? Well, the morons cares...

This thread is yet another example of how retarded the community has became. If I was an admin, the guy I would ban (and for a long time) would be Feschio because I really can't stand those self proclaimed investigators spending hours looking for ridiculous details, making fake accounts etc. to ban a guy that "may" used a bot. And in the end, even with nothing convincing, they still do their little "report"... pathetic. This kind of bullshit is the real fuel of the cheating paranoļa and it is 1000 times worse to this game to fuel and spread this paranoļa than to find those supposed cheaters.

Korn, take this opportunity to move to something else, there is plenty of very good games out there. Leave the rotten corpse that quake is for mentally sick dudes like Feschio or sad nostalgic ones who would like to move to something else but somehow can't, like me.

Bob, dear Bob, we must be strong.
We must be strong because we must ban cheaters and their supporters.
Let me help you out here:

"I don't know if you cheated Korn but even if you did"
So why do you even reply here while not having any knowledge on the issue? Logical error.

FATAL ERROR. Abort (A) Retry (R) Fail(F)?

"your bot looks like a standard 40lgish and not a stupid 90lg"
Another logical error. BOT = BAN, no discussion. Doesnt matter if its 30,40 or 400% LG.

"Well, the morons cares..."
Yeah, I see that from your replies. Stop caring, pls.

"This thread is yet another example of how retarded the community has became."
It is if we have ppl like you onboard. You don't know what you're talking about and you toss out accusations against lynching poor Korn3r.

" If I was an admin"
Thank God this won't happen in htis lifetime. Other lifetimes have admin queues filled as well.

"because I really can't stand those self proclaimed investigators"
Those self proclaimed investigators are what make this community worth its name: Quakers. We guard the gates. Punkasses like you don't rate even touching the door, so turn away. This way you won't have to stand us.

"to ban a guy that "may" used a bot."
See, these people here and in Support are Quakers, see. They know when shit hits the fan, see. That's because they have over a decade of knowledge under their belts. Share yours, please.

"This kind of bullshit is the real fuel of the cheating paranoļa"
Real fuel of cheating paranoia is no anticheat so we have droves of wannabe pro railers/shafters who cant even strafejump but they have 80% acc. Not to mention the really smarty fucks who use hacks detectable only by a select few.

"even with nothing convincing"
Nothing that convicts YOU. That doesn't concern us in the slightest. Because you write like somebody who haven't got a clue and couldn't find his dick with a flashlight and a map with regards to QL, not to mention any worthy opinion on cheating.

"it is 1000 times worse to this game to fuel and spread this paranoļa than to find those supposed cheaters."
No it is not. I know it hurts you cheaters that we search and destroy. We will continue to do that. You shush.

"Korn, take this opportunity to move to something else"
I bet he will.

"there is plenty of very good games out there"
Thanks Captain Obvious.

"Leave the rotten corpse that quake is for mentally sick dudes like Feschio or sad nostalgic ones who would like to move to something else but somehow can't, like me."

You have masochistic tendencies? You call us retards, fucks who support a rotten game and at the end of that entire diatribe you admit you're ONE OF US??? If you don't get the lack of logic in this, tell me how are you here if you don't want to be here and consider it all stupid, retarded and useless? This leads us to two conclusions: Either you're exactly like "supposed" us, that is a sad stupid paranoid fuck and, per analogiam, you think about us astin the same way as you, or yo don't even know what you write.

either way, you need to seek help. Fast.

Oh, and leave this rotten corpse to us, we will take care of it. We don't need your sorry angelic ass on this train.

You tell'em, Lolzy! \o/

SAD NOSTALGIC RETARDED FUCK MASTERRACE!!!

Lolzy, bob just made the point of the situation. Some players are paranoids. He's not defending a cheater because im not a cheater. The support doesn't care. Good moment to change game, i don't like this trust me.

What is so difficult to understand for your brain in this story?

The QL Support has analyzed your demo and they banned your account.
End of the story.

You are lucky that you can create another account and continue to play the game, and if you are smart too, do not use cheats this time or you will be banned again.

Lucky? I Can't play with my friends and i've lost all my time played. If i was a real cheater i would never create a thread like this. It's just all so unfair eheh.

dude, comment #23 tells you all you need to know.

nobody here can do anything about your ban, even if the whole site would agree that you're a legit player. Take it to support/official forums or 1v1 IRC with Sync if you want to argue for your cause, but if that doesn't help, read #23 again and start step 3. Or just play quake 3, no banning there and it's the same game.

The more you argue around pointlessly here, the more people think that you did in fact cheat and now just want to troll us instead of actually wanting to play the game.

Goddamn korn3r you at least reply like a grown up man. For that I will reply to you in the same manner:

If you feel you have been cheated out of the game on the basis of false accusations and the support don't answer you or won't unban you, DROP THE BALL AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. It's not like the world ends on QL. Monumental fuckups do happen, but you need to tread lightly in life as sometimes you might step on a mine not even knowing about that and get burnt for that.

What Bob did was piss on the entire community just because his thinks his sorry nerd ass knows all and can judge all. He hasn't seen shit and pretends to be the Holy Spirit who saves your ass from unjust attack. So he's got chewed and spat out, oh the ever obnoxious Bob. If he voiced his concerns in a mature way then nobody would tear him up a new one.

Having said that, let go of that issue. That's the only sane way to go. Resurrecting closed threads, stirring the nest of hornets and pissing long-time players is the shortest way to become a persona non grata in any game, not only QL. If you and your pal Bob the Slob wish to carry on along this line, fine. But bear in mind that it will come back at you no matter what game you're in.

But damn. Every fucking day i was giving up the morning, play quake live, go bed the night. I mean im 15. I don't have a fuck to do.

How about playing a sport, or going outside.

i have q3 on steam. No cd-key :D

playing a sport, or going outside is far better. play computer games when it's cold or raining. but even if it's cold, get your lazy ass out there.

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