dude i have a macmini, it reaches only real 60fps, in case that you want to play with 250fps or 125fps, you need to do a bootcamp and install windows in it, i tried all types of managing it to work with 125 or 250fps but it didn't work in mac OS.

i think HDMI is limited to 60hz i think, at least is what is working here with my macmini.

i would advice to you to buy a laptop instead :)

Well I've had an Asus and an Alienware. One died after 1.5yrs, the other's plastic construction means the entire screen might need to be replaced after 2yrs. And the Air is almost ideal for doing work.

How can HDMI be limited to 60hz?

i tested here, and later on i became aware that HDMI only support 120hz i believe or 60hz, i worked at FNAC Brasil and while i was there they taught me that the maximum hz for HDMI is 60hz or 120hz(thats why I'm not sure, i just know that is one of them). this is also one of the reasons why i don't practice quakelive in a kinda pro-player manner.

i had an asus and the solder of a little thing in the graphic-card of this laptop used to burned out, i always had to fix it and like 2-3 months later i needed to re-do the solder.

macbook air is very nice to work, yes i agree. this is one of the reasons why i have a macmini. nowadays the new series of macbook are damn awesome but also very expensive, at least here in brazil. now they use crystal screen i believe and ssd hd. if you don't mind to play quake with 60hz you guy it and whatever. i also had a macbook white and it only worked with 60hz, dunno but the OS of the mac cannot render more than 60hz.

or you buy a macbook air and you make a bootcamp in it and you install windows 7, which works perfectly, but i still prefer the MacOS.

sorry if i made this post too big

hdmi 1.3 supports 60 hz max

thanks, as i thought it only provides 60hz. cheers!

hdmi 1.4b officially supports 120 hz, 1.4/1.4a unofficially.

thanks to clarify it.

I have 1.4a and I couldnt reach 60hz.
As far as I have read (I read a lot about this issue because of 600 dollars of monitor would have been waste), you can only reach 120hz with DVI-DL and hdmi 1.4b (output, cable and monitor should support 1.4b).

the other's plastic construction means the entire screen might need to be replaced after 2yrs

asus, right? cause mine is the exact fucking same, but mine's held together by packing tape.

No, the motherboard on my Asus died. The Alienware M14X is a great laptop, except there's a known design problem with the screen hinges failing that Alienware doesn't cover (the m11x has the same engineering issue and they'll replace parts for free).

why do you want to buy overpriced piece of shit in the first place?

i have one.

screen is absolutely terrible for quake
you wont be able to play quake under mac os

For everything except gaming macbook air is absolutley brilliant.

HDMI can do 120Hz but there are limits for the resolution and also older chips wont do even 720p 120Hz, so you need to carefully check the exat specification of HDMI ur device is using and then google it to know if support 120hz in desired resolution

I was thinking I'd plug it into an external monitor. I'm not too concerned about the resolution... there's even a possibility it will be a CRT at 1024x768. May actually get a LCD though.

you can get 125 fps in ql with anything, mate. the game is easy as shit to run.

Unfortunately that's not true.

ok, i will rephrase.

you can get 125 fps in ql with anything made after 1983.

It's a misconception that because the engine is old, you don't need a decent computer to run it. Because the engine is old, it uses a deprecated way of sending data to the video card called immediate mode, which cards are not optimized for today. Also, some maps are poorly designed in respect to framerate optimization.

Stfu Linux nerd :)

byce knows

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I wish D:

only hdmi 1.4b or newer can do 120 hz. both output and input have to support it for it to work natively, though it is possible with 1.4/1.4a to force 120 hz.

how to force 1.4a to 120hz? do you have tutorial or something?

it's very hit or miss.

http://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-Cust...tility-CRU

try lcd standard and if that doesn't work try lcd reduced.

thanks man!
but the problem is

Laptops with switchable graphics are not supported

but still if its the idea, ill search for it

ah shit, never bothered reading that. sorry. if you have nvidia you could try setting a custom resolution through nvidia control panel.

if you exceed pixel clock it is not possible anyway i.e. 120Hz 1080p on 1.4 chips

hdmi has actually had more than enough bandwidth for 1080p@120 hz since 1.3, i'm not sure why it wasn't officially supported since then.

its not bout bandwidth its about IC which controls HDMI line. It can not output pixel clocks that are required for 120hz at 1080p

Remember the benq monitors only have hdmi 1.0!!!!

i got 2009 macbook with windows on it.
125fps easily. all maps. even the new ones.
screen is terrible 60hz, and uberlag.
dvi-dual link adapter is 80 bucks, but gives 120hz.

you need an app to make the fans always run at full capactiy or your macbook overheats. power management is really horrible and it will result in you getting bad fps. dunno if they made that worse on the macbook air.

what gpu

google it

thx

some of the things that you mentioned happens with my macmini, still i have bought it in 2012.

Windows power management sucks big time that is known fact.

It's more the fact hat the mac fans are programmed to run as low as possible. It's same in OSX so it's not a win exclusive issue.

for gaming definetely not, but those devices are not design with gaming in mind

You don't need HMDI or DVI. With new Apple hardware you have Thunderbolt for everything. I use 144Hz monitor for gaming on my iMac with a simple cheap Thunderbolt (same size as mini Displayport) to Displayport Cable.

I find it outrageous when new technology dont supports what previous could. HDMI (minus 1.4b) not supprting what old monitor connectors could is as stupid as the nobel prizes and millions of dollars that dumb physics won by inventing nuclear power stations (which need active cooling for thousands of years otherwise they melt and all kind of nasty isotopes leak to the athmosphere, basically theyre time bombs)

HDMI is not monitor connector in the first place, it is primerely targeted for output to TVs hence such specs.
For monitors you have DisplayPort (which is backwards compatible with DVI and VGA via adapters) and DVI. DVI itself includes RGB pins (VGA) in its connector hence you can use cheap adapter to output from DVI to VGA (DSUB).
So new technologies are properly supporting even very outdated things, you just need to choose proper one for your application.

125 FPS easily on Macbook Air
120hz using Thunderbolt.

You don't need to use SMC Fan Control as the design tolerances of the machine and regular fan settings easily account for any heat.

Macbook Air, Intel HD Graphics 5000, 1.4GHz dual-core Intel Core i5.

You definitely want to use an external display for gaming btw. Just pick up any of those early non BenQ 120hz panels for a steal of a deal (£50 in the UK). Also if you can spring for a Retina Macbook Pro, do so. The screen is so worth it.

Are you saying that based on specs or personal experience? Have you run timedemos?


I looked up some benchmarks of the card... kinda questionable. But some of the new air's have the i7, seems like that should be ok.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-HD-Graphics-5000.91978.0.html