i think so, That must be why they are hyping

That can only mean one thing...

Something's about to get seriously fucked up.

Let's hope this update will undo all the changes made in the last patch.

nah, maybe this happens when they watch old and new players quit the game

I hope they will force 3rd person view, 1st person is so 1998.

Were there ever any 3rd person designed arena shooters made?

I know you could play Serious Sam from a third person perspective.

jedi knight had third person sword battles, i believe(i never played the game)




gears of war counts as an arena shooter to me
so there's one right there

Yeah, just don't seem to recall any deathmatch games that were 3rd person.

http://www.loadout.com/

Yep I played JK2, you could also go 3rd person with guns

You can play Q3 in 3rd person as well.

What is the cvar command for that?

I know that you could simply change it in the setting @ dreamcast Q3, on the PC version I'm actually not sure how.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPILP6MB2YQ

edit: seems to be as simple as: /cg_thirdperson 1

Seems bizarre that the official twitter feed is spreading rumours. I thought that was everyone else's job and they were supposed to deny them.

Not really a rumor when it comes from the source, more a hype-attempt.

yeah, thought that as well.

if its not fixed there will be plenty of "steam released"

If it's not broken, fuck it up

Well im staying with ql till the very end!

Obama couldn't say better.

Wtf is this shit about?

As silly as that gimmick is, that chant was so popular that it got that wrestler the heavyweight title.

so this guy with idiotic face screaming yes yes got more people support because looked like a retard?

Well that chant is quite catchy.

Wrestling works like this. The company said to him to say that yes chant a whole lot, turning him into a character/gimmick. Wrestlers are mostly bodybuilders, former sportsmen and wrestling nuts that do what they are told to, by giving them only some bullet points on what to say and of the outcome of the match, among others.

That wrestler in particular is quite a good actor and ring performer as well (actor, again). He says those lines, improvises and flies around the ring like few do. However having potential and charisma does not necessarily mean becoming popular, and popularity / selling tshirts is the name of the game in wrestling and in any tv show.

Both aspects converge in popularity: the gimmick and storyline given by the company + the execution of the wrestler.

Then the chant worked so well with the audience that they kept on pushing him, by giving him more spotlight time in the show, a unique appearance (a huge beard), further developing his character by making him look like the underdog of the company as the plot of the whole show, this so people are more empathetic and attached to him (not only a gimmick anymore), gave him wins against big names and so on, while keeping the yes chant and pushing that line to the sky.

All that worked so well that he became one of the most popular wrestlers of the company, so he won the title in wrestlemania.

The thing is all that happened because of the yes chant, at the beginning, in the middle and in the climax. The whole successful run he had in wwe comes down to that apparently idiotic stuff. That company writer was really smart.

The yes chant success is a joint effort of the company (good lines/character) and of how well the wrestler did his job. It's not only one or the other.

(yes I watch wrestling from time to time. Wrestlemania rocks)

I found megaman3

http://youtu.be/BvTNyKIGXiI

pathetic :(

>(yes I watch wrestling from time to time. Wrestlemania rocks)
why not, their acrobatic setups are funny to watch sometimes :)

steve austins what?! Was much better

He's a great example of how much gimmicks matter. He was a wasted talent for like 10 years, until the "stone cold" character.

We are thankful.

Fingers crossed for mastermind's comeback. Infected with mastermind is probably the most fun gametype when you play with friends with high skill difference.

Inb4 5 dmg lg

Haha

http://www.esreality.com/post/2656375/n-a/#pid2656361


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Will [+] for ASCII poo


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[+]'d. Also fuck you :D

HAHAHA =D

: D

That's not poo, that's pooh!

sanic is dat u?

Not about steam release, just another update.

!
please please PLEASE revert the movement changes in classic modes!
! :o/

What changed in classic?

there were un-announced movement changes across the board (they also effect classic modes) but we werent told about them.
Some seem more sensitive to them than others.

didn't you feel you wanted to alter your sens after the update?

increased ground-speed ---------->edit: (strafing - not walking/running)
increased accel from circle-jumps
increased air-control

clipping on scenery is a joke
ledge-grabbing is different

also 'knock-back' - or at least if you hit a rocket near your opponent they bounce up like something in a cartoon

My main issue with all of this is it's now making me very ill (nauseous) when I play... and I've played 15 years.
Currently I'm unsure exactly 'how' they've changed things - but these are certainly some of the effects.

there are other posts on here where this is mentioned - unfortunately they are spaced all over and not under the one banner.

> increased ground-speed

It's still 320. Unless you mean something other than just running in a straight line with no jumping.

yes - just strafe and see (not walking/running - nothing to do with auto-hop)

tele-exit speed is up too (but that could be a knock-on from something else)

trouble is - you've been using it for a fortnight now - so you're not going to notice it to the same degree.

I can't believe people can't see/feel this - after years of playing the same maps - don't you notice it now takes less strafe's to cover the same distance?

see here for 'some' related info
http://www.esreality.com/post/2650041/#pid2650041

there are other posts too both here and on QL Forums - people complaining that their sens got mucked-up (but not as many as I'd like)

I think you could write some nice conspiracy theory articles or maybe become ufologist

He's sensitive.

I'm right... :o)

damn spot on
Paranoid personality disorder (PPD) is a mental disorder characterised by paranoia and a pervasive, long-standing suspiciousness and generalised mistrust of others. Individuals with this personality disorder may be hypersensitive, easily feel slighted, and habitually relate to the world by vigilant scanning of the environment for clues or suggestions that may validate their fears or biases.

:D:D:D

this because I say there's changes in movement?

I KNOW there are changes - I've had it confirmed by people in focus..
we just don't know exactly what they've changed

I just want it changed back.


Cypher and Cooller both failing moves & mega on DM13??
You don't don't feel it? - who cares


I'd list more but QL is down:
http://www.quakelive.com/forum/showthread.php...game-modes

http://www.quakelive.com/forum/showthread.php...ast-update

"Some seem more sensitive to them than others."

I want to believe.

gave the new update a try. Thought it was strange my aim was fine when standing still but couldn't compensate when moving like it was all over the place, was gross feeling. I thought it was just a sensitivity reset/me being rusty.

Curious if that auto jump movement acceleration? is being applied regardless of jumping.

I'll try -
They have made changes - I'm unsure what & why but they have affected movement.

make sure you have /cg_autohop 0
but in 'classic' it's disabled anyway

Not gonna log in and try but sounds like 320 is cap still, but could test if the ramp up is different by comparing old and new demos. With time-scale and a clip where you run in a straight line (to give consistent* results) could see if the speed increase is different.

yeah - will try

the speed increase comes with strafing - you gain much more from your original cj now.
People are saying they find the game much faster now.

there are also changes to air-control and weapon 'knock-back'
Try some rj's and plasma climbs.

LG damage will be 5!

http://www.esreality.com/post/2646950/the-gre...pid2652910

"Restored lightning gun knockback (while maintaining it's recent damage reduction)."

hopefully 5:4 fix, or fuck you.

Update on 9/11? QL will go down with a bang

You tell them ProT!

QL 2.0 was an inside job.

Quakelive is basically terrorism.

Yeah, you tell them, ProT!

The update is for new awards for midairs, a new vote announcer etc...

Incoming ban for leaking information!

Well this blows... My cat ran away because of some idiots... So, I wanted to played some QL to vent my frustration on random strangers, but what do I get, QL OFFLINE..

Stupid idiots :/

-Headshots
-Ironsights
-LG 5dmg/cell
-Simplified CTF gameplay, you no longer have to grab the other team's flag and bring it back to your base. Now just touch the enemy flag (2pts). You can now also score 1pt by getting within the marked perimeter around the enemy flag. Flags are now visible through walls (like teammate icons).

I hope they increase lg ammo in ca to 200, 150 is not enough for lg 2 fights with nerfed lg

Duel loadouts.

Update just installed. QL is back online

And.... it's out! http://www.quakelive.com/#!news/site_news/38338

some stuff:
-new announcer voice (it better be good edit: oh god. it's not.)
-medals and stuff à la Impressive/Excellent for midairs (any projectile), combos (any weapon + rail), Rampage (3 frags in 3 seconds), etc.
-Restored lightning gun knockback (while maintaining it's recent damage reduction).
-Obituary messages now queue, so that we don't lose death messages.
-Obituary icons now fade out after displaying.

and more...

most importantly, extraQL still seems to work flawlessly. Yay.

"Disabled LG and RG from loadouts" on hearth, should be on quite a few other smaller / mid maps.

Finally we know how sponge's voice sounds.

"•Restored lightning gun knockback" ! does this mean in FFA I will be propelled faster and live longer whilst being propelled from the ass?

gay voice. how can u dump the q3 arena voice for that shit? if anything i thought u'll add the option to have the female voice from cpma, not 1 shit voice forced
also, pings in server browser still dont work, dont update upon refresh

the new announcer makes me wanna smash things!

If it ain't broke, id will fix it 'til it is!

That voice told me to uninstall the game

Vegeta would never tell you to uninstall Quake.

You mean Piccolo?

He was both :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Sabat
Vegeta's way cooler.

Kakarot!

Yeah but he wasn't the OG eng Vegeta

http://youtube.com/watch?v=btOlW6st5io

Drummond is the over 9000 guy

WTF is with that new VO? Are they fucking crazy?

To me it looks like id and Zenimax definitely agreed on destroying Quake slowly...but securely...

mg start ammo in tdm and duel needs to be fixed because fuck this shit.

VO was like slow mo. well at least Hearth is better balanced and improved (edit: but no way perfect) in FFA, but make this for other small / mid sized maps too plz.

almost every update suxx more and more.
server browser is just painful.
FFA 16/16 with loadouts..horrible

itz like cookin a meal without tasting the result.

To be fair 16 player games are entirely user customised.

QL spawns FFA servers at 8.

the whole thing about ffa in the past has been loads of players on the server, having fights in different areas, with focal points. At the moment its too spammy with the loadouts on these congested maps.

8 players means small maps with loudouts, less population of servers. Still quite good fun, on a smaller basis, and quite duel like. imo it's too duel like designed for some reason, and not the FFA theme. It's like someone from a Duel background, who has no idea about FFA, tried to design the FFA mode.

Still the larger servers are the best imo, for getting more players to join servers, so that you get different action points, that arn't overdominated by 5 new spawners. etc. but still with the loadout balance needs new maps etc

use and abuse. imagine if bfg would have been in loadouts - rip