ESR - How can you detect a hack?

<< Comment #1 @ 07:38 CDT, 23 October 2014 >>

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pacmanpl '

Stop bullying guitar players.

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<< Comment #4 @ 09:52 CDT, 23 October 2014 >>

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J3ck - Reply to #1

wut?

<< Comment #14 @ 13:21 CDT, 23 October 2014 >>

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harosh - Reply to #1

#dontfreeserbia

<< Comment #2 @ 09:43 CDT, 23 October 2014 >>

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sophia

no i dont think aimbot will hit 100% at least not the ones i have encountered. usually aimbot lg will be 50-70% well in team game anyway idk about duel i dont play it.

you can set it so each game you play is recorded to demo, in console:

cg_autoAction 1

use wolfcam/wolfwhisper to watch the demo and also you can look from another point of view with freecam and also the opponent point of view
i think detecting a wallhack isa bit more difficult you will have to know what you are looking for but aimbot is *usually* a bit more obvious
if you are not sure if they are cheating or not you can maybe upload the demo here or to a friend you think will know or post youtube of it... or of course send to official support

Edited by sophia at 09:44 CDT, 23 October 2014

<< Comment #3 @ 09:50 CDT, 23 October 2014 >>

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J3ck - Reply to #2

yeah i did send my demo to the support team. if i use wolfcam will it record both player's POVs then? i still haven't figured that much out.

honestly i'm not even worried so much about wallhacks.. fuck it let them know where i am because i'm pretty decent at already knowing where my opponents are.. especially on small maps like aero..

but aim hacks... man that's just some bs. you know another thing i noticed about that duel was that this guy didn't go for items at all! you'd think a guy that is 1600+ would know how to control a map as well, but no he would just come at me and in like 2 seconds from being almost 200 200 i'd be dead.

<< Comment #22 @ 02:59 CDT, 24 October 2014 >>

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dimwalker - Reply to #3

Wolfcam/Wolf Whisperer is used to watch demos. Then you can use /follow command to watch opponent POV from your demo, no need for buddy specing him in game.

Edited by dimwalker at 02:59 CDT, 24 October 2014

<< Comment #13 @ 13:08 CDT, 23 October 2014 >>

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MajkiFajki - Reply to #2

Don't forget low-fov aimbots. Anyone with a brain will use that kind of cheat instead of ordinary aimbot.

<< Comment #5 @ 10:05 CDT, 23 October 2014 >>

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Weird '

Main thing is: if you take away the 1 thing they are good at, do they still make the right calls?
If yes, then they don't cheat. If no then they cheat.

So like you said the guy didn't go for items at all -> bad call -> bad player -> cheat. (at least sounds like that, I didn't see the game ofcourse so I can't say this for sure)

It gets hard to be accurate when players are good on the whole + cheat which they toggle on/off.

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<< Comment #9 @ 11:39 CDT, 23 October 2014 >>

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deadlift - Reply to #5

You are so right, but you are talking about high level cheaters.
Lesser cheaters almost always give away at some point during the game. In other words if you just watch the demo you will eventually see something that is out of the normal.

I would never judge anyone without viewing the the pov of the other player.

<< Comment #10 @ 12:10 CDT, 23 October 2014 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #5

In addition to that, his whole game has to be consistent. No one that doesn't master strafe jumping can hit 50% lg, or have that lg acc but completely suck at using rockets.

Of course there are circumstances and stuff, like if he joined a tier1 server or if he only used lg on jumppads in public lolca, but that's the general rule.

Edited by megaman3 at 12:11 CDT, 23 October 2014

<< Comment #17 @ 15:07 CDT, 23 October 2014 >>

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Weird ' - Reply to #10

I don't really know how that is an addition... imo it follows from the premise that when you remove the thing that they are good at that they then do stuff wrong.
Perhaps my wording it as 'right calls' is somewhat too stricty linked to choices. I intended it to be a broader range though.

In general my point is that people who are good enough to be questioned on validity either are very good alround, or cheat.
Very good alround players will still own your ass even if they don't aim. Crap players can only own your ass by hitting insane and they then base their game around knowing that they will hit everything. (= suck)

<< Comment #21 @ 02:23 CDT, 24 October 2014 >>

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Anonymous (162.216.47.145) - Reply to #17

Example: Kukkii

<< Comment #23 @ 07:35 CDT, 24 October 2014 >>

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pepidda - Reply to #17

Evil is a crap player then cuz he rushes freshspawn with plasma vs stacked opponents knowing that he hits everything :D

<< Comment #24 @ 09:53 CDT, 24 October 2014 >>

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Weird ' - Reply to #23

I'm pretty sure that I've said in the past that I don't specifically like Evil's playstyle (aka he was crap).
He has improved a lot though since he went to several lans (atm my opinion of him is higher). But in 'my days' when he was still upcomming I mentioned a few times that his playstyle was full of holes as he made decisions based on him hitting more. (similar to Strenx)

<< Comment #25 @ 11:37 CDT, 24 October 2014 >>

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pepidda - Reply to #24

oh really? well i was actually 3/4 joking there. I think evil is a very well rounded player with insane execution but he also times his attacks perfectly with the right amount of surprise.

I often find mayself in situations where i cover a chokepoint and my enemy rushes throough and it�s really obvious he shouldn�t do it, however as i am totally not expecting such "dumb/crap" move i become surpirsed and fail miserably. But from my opponents POV the move was right in that case because i didn�t expect it. This doesn�t translate 1:1 to top-level duel but my point stands Surprising the opponent with in theory dumb moves can be an important tool in duel.

<< Comment #26 @ 16:21 CDT, 24 October 2014 >>

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Weird ' - Reply to #25

Like I said evil improved a lot over the past 2 years or so.
He still bases a lot of his gameplay on execution but ye he's fairly alround now.

Suprising people is an extremely powerful tool to have though. But it's different from just executing an attack well.
In general Evil doesn't suprise people that much by his attacks, it's just that his execution is so good that it's hard to counter.

<< Comment #6 @ 10:11 CDT, 23 October 2014 >>

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doom2

I think you can set the aimbot to hit how much you like, 10% 11% 40% 100% or whatever you like and then it will hit pretty damn close to that. If they intend to keep cheating for a long time they will probably not set it to 100% :p

I've been linked posts to reddit where people leak all kinds of info from the VIP sections of the cheater forums (20euro/month long term followers only), you could search outside esreality and probably find some more info about how they work!

Most of the times the other player is just better though. Stronk aim pro players would probably hit 60% vs many non-pros too =)

<< Comment #7 @ 10:22 CDT, 23 October 2014 >>

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jizzle

Based on your qlranks profile it wasn't hard to figure out who the guy was. I have played him before and at least at that time (a week or two ago) I don't believe he was hacking. He does have good aim but is a fairly standard mid level duel player IMO. His aim drops predictably against better players which is pretty standard especially for someone not hacking.

More than likely he is an experienced player maybe in other game types possibly with a new account.

My advice go back and watch the demo closely. I bet there are spots where he hits ridiculous lg based on position or catching you in easy spots.

Most of the time if its not really obvious (i.e. can't move or jump but is an aim beast) then they probably aren't hacking.

Edited by jizzle at 10:22 CDT, 23 October 2014

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<< Comment #18 @ 17:04 CDT, 23 October 2014 >>

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J3ck - Reply to #7

whoops! my bad

<< Comment #11 @ 12:32 CDT, 23 October 2014 >>

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Anonymous (170.74.55.84)

If you are referring to your games vs DSG123, I doubt this fella is cheating.

Looking at his history of duel he lost to people I expect him to lose and i know for sure aren't cheating ( qlivecat , stasker, organic ).

He probably just had a good initial LG vs you and you felt pressured.

Suggestion : Play him again in some other new map.
I think this guy is an alias and has ZTN down to a more intense level than you.

Source : I checked his stuff on qlranks after your comment.
Not affiliated in any way with him :)

- Larionov

<< Comment #8 @ 11:20 CDT, 23 October 2014 >>

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earth

I don't see a search function on this forum

site > search

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<< Comment #19 @ 17:05 CDT, 23 October 2014 >>

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J3ck - Reply to #8

thanks! now i know :) maybe if it wasn't font-size 2 i would have caught it sooner lol

<< Comment #12 @ 12:41 CDT, 23 October 2014 >>

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Memento_Mori

The best search function is to google:

"how to detect a cheat site:www.esreality.com"

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<< Comment #15 @ 13:23 CDT, 23 October 2014 >>

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harosh - Reply to #12

I googled "memento_mori naked leaked pics"

.....I demand a refund!!!

<< Comment #16 @ 14:36 CDT, 23 October 2014 >>

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Jamerio :

You can still learn from playing cheats, doesn't matter if you lose, use it to get better in the deepest sense and don't care about losing insignificant games.

<< Comment #20 @ 17:51 CDT, 23 October 2014 >>

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DamianLillard

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