yes I have a solution. Don't buy razer products.

Funny :) If u are that confident, find me mouse for left-handed player with good sensor and price ~35€. PROTIP: I don't want G100S.

pretty much any ambidextrous mouse should be good for a left handed player (WMO, zowie AM,FK series etc..). As in for that price adding 15€ would expand your choice of mice a lot. In addition I've never really liked specifically shaped mice anyways. I've used MX518, Deathadder and EC1 evo, but still wmo feels the nicest to my hand.

even more than a penis? xD

you should not play quake with penis, it won't help your aim

IM LIVING PROOF IT DOES

Unless you shoot with the keyboard don't get a zowie.

Razer Salmosa, Razer Krait (old), Razer Diamondback / Diamondback 3G
Logitech MX300 / MX310 / G1 / G1 v2. You don't want G100s, so I won't mention it.
MS WMO 1.1a, MS IMO 1.1a
SteelSeries Kinzu v1 / Kana v2

I've also got a qpad ct but I don't use it - I actually had some weird accel issues with it on a bunch of mice. The sensor is really sensitive to dust, try blowing into the sensor hole at the bottom to make sure there's none. On a black qck I know it's perfect, try and save up some money for a plain black qck+.

So which pads will be good? I dont really want colth pads, because they will get dusty like my nostromo and there will be jitter again. It seems that Hybratek is good if it would be without printings on it.

The cloth pads I know work good with the abysses 2014:

QCK Heavy
Roccat sense Adrenaline Blue
Roccat taito
Goliathus Black
Puretrack Talent
Artisan Hayate

Stick with cloth, the dust isn't really a problem, all you need to do is occasionally just blow into the sensor or use a cotton but do make sure it's clear - you don't have to do it 24/7 :P

QcK Master Race

QcK overpriced low quality mouse pad.

So, perfect match for razer mice then? 8)

Goliathus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Qck

omg we think pretty much the same :D

my goliathus speed feels a bit nicer than my old qck and also i have it for like 4-5 months now and still looking as if it was new :D

I've had my qck 4 years of daily use, still looking brand new.

i had a qck then a qck+ then a qck heavy, and after like 6 months of intense usage they definitely didn't look as brand new :D

can't say the same with my goliathus

imho goliathus > qck

Which goliathus? Speed?

I only had control and it was extremely bad. Imagine, it has holes in it by purpose. Some of my mice had constant barely noticeable skipping.

yes speed

i used control for some time as well, but not for long. I think control is durable too but not as smooth and comfortable as speed.

Allsop Raindrop GigaPad XL & Everglide Titan MonsterMat >>>>> all

maybe, both hard to get in my country ;]

but maybe ebay... but i don't wanna be such a nerd! lol

Your loss.

i disagree.
it's durable, inexpensive and offers the most control of any other pad.
best product from steelseries by far.

I bought A4 tech 500 mp for about 6-7 $ and its better than QcK.

There are beter mousepads for QcK price.
QcK is good... if you like SS logo... lolz

what "better"?
it's about how you can play on it, and i always end up going back to qck heavy.

similiar or better and a4 tech with much lower price.

qck 'speed' is quite low. Lower than A4tech.
Both are worse han Goliathus.

also if you want some tests/scores
http://www.test-gear.pl/wp-content/uploads/20...G.PL_3.jpg

columns:
speed,(1st one with numbers), control, smoothness, feedback, grip.

QcK is nothing special, not worth buying.

qck is something special, because it offers more control compared to the other common cloth pads.
i know that there are cloth pads which are faster, and i got a gol. speed myself too, but i like the feel of the qck(heavy) better.
so if you can't tell me about a pad, which is similar to the qck heavy, for a lower price, then you don't have an argument.

did you compare qck to any other mousepad?

I will not ever buy qck again.

lol, i also have:

artisan shiden
artisan hien
puretrak talent
goliathus speed
SS NP+
qpad CT
allsop raindrop

but in the end, qck heavy is king.

qck heavy is not qck :P

it is, other than the thicker rubberbase.

You got an Allsop and still QcK.. lololo

For real.

10 years old, and only small size.
but you are right, i should try a big one again.

is this the right one?: http://www.amazon.de/dp/B001SG3A98/ref=asc_df...3_544f8550

This:

http://www.amazon.com/Allsop-Mouse-Pad--Raind...gigapad+xl

shut up homo!

shut up n00kie aka homo!

QPAD CT sux dix.

No

yes

Damn I am throwing mine through the window right now

good for you.

I was lying.

not good for you.

sad panda.

lol the new one jitters too? XAXAXAXXA

I heard on overclock that new one doesnt jitter ;P

shit mice shit company. ie 3.0 5lyfe

i'd keep buying these azn ie3/1.1a's but they keep disconnecting every 3 mo's or so... me no likez. and i dont even grind that hard. just play a few times a week

Razer mice are awesome.

Yeah buy the razer Imperator dual sensor and enjoy diagonal skipping.

Awesome stuff :)

: D

Good Razer mice:

Razer Krait (old)
Razer Diamondback
Razer Diamondback 3G
Razer Salmosa
Razer Salmosa Pro-gaming Edition
Razer Abyssus 3G
Razer Abyssus (3.5G, old)
Razer DeathAdder 3G v1 / v2
Razer DeathAdder 3.5G / Black Edition
Razer Boomslang 2007 CE

Razer Boomslang lawl :D

Abyssus 2014
Deathadder 2013

2007 CE.

Avago ADNS-S3668

Khm.

ok, but it looks... weird :D

and krait 2k13 aswell :D

i dunno about the old krait and the diamondback but the salmosa had prediction, which is bad

in the small and light mice category, the abyssus is definitely better than the salmosa. Salmosa was an okay mouse.

Prediction is way too overrated. Was hitting the same 45% lg and 70% rail, just as with predictionless mouse.

Also Abyssus > Salmosa? Bitch please. Not considering the shape (which is far more in the favor of the Salmosa for me), Avago ADNS-S3668 > Avago ADNS-S3888.

Much smaller LOD, no jitter on any surface, you can set 500 Hz and 800 cpi too with swithces, not just 125/1000 Hz & 450 / 1800 / 3500 cpi -> Abysuss' hardware settings clearly lacking options.

i'm only using 1000hz so i don't care ;)

and my 2 old abyssus never ever jittered =) i'm a lucky guy

and i like the shape of the old abyssus, very sharp and agressive =)

lod isn't an issue for me, i get used to it pretty quickly





and why do you think that 3668 > 3888 ?

Just wrote it.

imo
3988 > 3668 > 3888 :P

A2020 > all

:>

why ? :D

hmm dunno hehe

I read today that 3668 is best of them :P

Some people like prediction.

Imperator sux, but Razer got many good mice.

You're right.

But the imperator really does suck!

I bought SS QCK+, no jitter so i'm happy :) IMO Abysuss 2014 best mouse i had, especially for left-handed like me.

My abyssus skipped like a mother fucker on the qck+. I don't dare put a cloth pad in the same room as it now.

My Abyssus 2014 jittered on old cloth nostromo too, but on new qck+ it is ok. I guess i have to keep it clean.

you should go for goliathus.

I just don't get how people here always keep on believing the hype of current and of upcoming razer products, rofl.

They always, always have some reliability and/or functioning issue, especially in the first batches, plus are of lesser material quality than the competition.

I know the reason why they do so is because of marketing, which at the same time that budget is the very reason why their products are worse (consumers end up paying for that instead of for the product). Anyway, had to rant about it.

Find me good left-hand mouse for ~35 euro which i spent on Abyssus 2014. PROTIP: U can't. I can only bring g100s but it feels worse than Razer to me.

No matter your special situation, budget and handed wise, still what you bought brought you some troubles already, in the very first day of ownership.

Almost every sensor jitters in certain combinations of mouse pads/dpi. IMO it isn't really problem that it was jittering on my old pads, i sold it to my friend and bought new qck+ and there is no jitter.

he is wmo fanboi :P

Not that it matters. These days I wouldn't seriously recommend a WMO, because it's way too old for the current standards (no one uses 1024x768 in desktop anymore and the materials are way worse than what's commonly used), neither a Razer product, because they are surpassed by other companies in everything they produce.

I like wmo shell, easy to clean, looks the same after years :P

I bet you missed #47.

Nice troll, you mentioned mouses which are old and i could barrely get them. I wanted Kana v2 but this mouse price is higher than Abysuss 2014.

What troll, rofl? The most serious answer you can get. Don't be clueless pls.

Don't tell me you actually think that "new > old", "most easily available > need to find" at all times. It's exactly he opposite rather.

Those mice are simply better than 99% of nowadays' marketing bullshit. Most of them also can be found on eBay, brand new or barely used, for good price. There's no impossibility, just incapability.

You want good lightweight mouse? Also reasonable price? Don't look at the local groceries' selection only. Proper use of search bars and a little resourcefulness can do wonders.

You are 100℅ right, i just can't imagine why should i go with one of this instead of Abysuss 2014. It is really good mice to me and a lot of CS GO pros uses this sensor in Deathadder, if it is any argument. I wouldn't want to get some old mice from ebay, i'm not that hardcore gamer unless it would be worth but it is not IMO.

It definitely worths it, but it's your choice.

Razer products are fine.

Deathadder is fkin epic but I prefer other weight/shape and lod.

Got mine DA 3G for years, still working fine.

I think Razer is using Omrons now.

ScreaM from CSGO really likes it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1ken7K5kQ4

razer has omrons on most of not all their mice.

they also used cheap shit in the later rev.2 DA 3G's.
earlier rev.2 had omrons, and since rev.3 all use omrons.

Odd.

razer mouses tends to be VERY picky about the pads that they work on. Mostly to be sure you should use razer pads and for a laser mouse - the hard pads/hybrid pads. Personal experience. Got three of their mouses(mamba 3.5G, lachesis 3G, imperator 3.5G) and they don't like just any mouse pad. :/

Maybe u are right, i just bought qck+ and it's ok, hope it won't get worse over time.

BTW. Intresting thing, firmware updater says i have new firmware, i wrote to razer about jitter and they told me to reflash the firmware anyway, so i'm guessing that jitter isn't normal. I will try to reflash it tommorow, write back to razer and i will wait for their reply.