so which car company do you think ID should contact?

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hate to be a party pooper but it's VALVE VALVE VALVE

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Hi kevszszz(?)

Do you even have a point to make or want to have a discussion?

op was bored, so he had to state the obvious we all knew

CS:GO might be successful if you look at the numbers but it's horrible compared to 1.6 and the only reason it's successful is because it lacks competition, the FPS games that's being made these days are all designed to work on consoles (even cs:go) and because of that there's so many compromises that hurt the gameplay.

With that being said I got over 1k hours in CS:GO, but I'm not happy with the game but it will have to do until there's a better game released since there isn't really any other decent FPS that got a large enough playerbase.

What don't you like about it?

All pro teams from 1.6 are there (Na`Vi, golden 5, NiP), competition is even bigger because people from source scene came and they are good in CS:GO as well but they are not best, I mean best teams from CS:S doesn't own the scene actually they haven't won any major tournaments yet. I don't understand how it lacks competition you mean skill wise? The scene is on fire there is no best team 3/4 teams can fight for 1st place. I play the game and I don't understand what you mean maybe it's not balanced, maybe some guns are overpowered still?

I meant that the game lacks competetion in terms of other games, not that it lacks competetiors.

#7 Well that list would be to long if I included all things but I'll just namedrop a couple of things that I HATE about it.

The map is narrow and clastrophobic, that combined with the big ass radius and duration of the nades make most mapes a waiting game when you're going to execute since it's suicide to push through them.

The maps that are so narrow and that combined with the lack of tagging and the fact that you can't wallbang makes it so that it doesn't punish players that gets caught out of position, they can just AD around the corner.

There's to many angles on the maps, so many that it gets impossible to clear all, and the first bullet inaccuracy combined with the small maps and lack of tagging makes it so that the game is completely spraybased.

The running accuracy with pistols is really retarded also.

There's plenty of other things but I can honestly say that there's not a big difference between good players and average players since the game is so fucking random and that obviously rewards the weaker players, luckily that makes it so that I can hold my own against well known players even tho my aim is mediocre at best.

CS:GO is one of these adolescent (in gaming liftime terms) era shitgames that are worse than their predecessors but offer players significant support from developers (in terms of updates, tournaments and Marketing, and the expanded playerbases which mulitplayer games so desperately require.

Other examples of adolescent shitgames includes SCII (worse than Brood War), Diablo 3 (top kek), Tribes Ascend (why God, why) and Quak Live (remove gibs, nerf weapons, add loadouts and HMG ??? Profit). In fairness CS:GO isn't as bad as it could be (it's not CS:S) but it still has a lot wrong with the gameplay (ping compensation and peeker's massive advantage, tagging is broken, spray and pray is still way too good etc.)

As soon as the Next Big Thing© is released the vast majority of the playerbase will jump ship and you're left with something that resembles Heroes of Newerth. Incidentally one of the games that should've fallen into this category but didn't is probably the most interesting case. Dota 2. Had all the hallmarks of a shitgame: being released years later into a different market on a new platform with a different developer even! But they stayed true to the source, kept the key people (person) from the original project on board and basically made a port of DotA onto a pretty new engine with awesome features.

I don't play much Dota any more, but if other devs are looking to see how to keep a hardcore fanbase happy while still attracting newbs then read that fucking case study and take notes.

"offer players significant support from developers"
"Tribes Ascend"
nice joke

I agree with everything you said except the part about hon and Dota. I wouldn't dare to play those games.

I don't blame you one bit.

"Back in 2010"
Lol, let me tell you about back in 2000. I crushed souls in counter strike but didn't care. It wasn't quake.


End of short story.

Go on and tell us what happened in 2001-2002.

Crushed watermellons on a stage with a hammer.

CS and QL were certainly not on the same level in 2010 in terms of competitions, audience and player base.

Your thesis statement should be the last sentence of the first paragraph.

I'll tell you what I think about Counter Strike and Quake Live.


My only problem with CS is that's it's slow. Quake is faster. It's ALL I think. The rest is just pure details. I fell in love with Quake games because of the speed.

Now what I don't understand is why people do not prefer games with LOTS of action and speed (quake) and would rather play slower stuff (CS) or stuff that is just about managing virtual absurd items (WoW, LoL, etc).

I mean, fuck com'on guys. Quake Live is a hell of a game. It would be even better if it were as opened as Q3 was (custom maps, characters, etc). The speed makes it a true e-sport game to me. Yes it's hard, yes we all suck at it from time to time, but gosh the speed...



Now you all know why I don't have my driving licence.

Now what I don't understand is why people do not prefer games with LOTS of action and speed (quake) and would rather play slower stuff (CS)

If you're new at CS:GO, you get matched up with 9 equally horrible people (most of the time).

If you're new at QL, you get your ass handed to you by a 2k elo tierslummer who enjoys LG'ing people who +forward for 10 min straight thinking "why won't this guy die?"

That example makes me want to play quake.

gotta love 3:14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n-bCUG6h-o

http://www.qlranks.com/duel/player/higay
http://www.qlranks.com/duel/player/ilikeurgf

smurf acc hard )

He comes online every night ~3-5am CET, creates a new account and callvotes ztn

But yeah he's been more active lately

no anticheat = quake live

true, ql have much worse matchmake system. at the least in game csgo you can play people at your level. in ql everyone is tier 4. is big joke haha.

Quake Live in a nuts shell: We have an awesome concept managed poorly.

I think if we had Quake managed by Valve it would have been somehow different in a good way.

Don't get me wrong, id software has awesome video game ideas but I think they're still trying to market them like in 1995.

+1, totally share ur attitude.
kinda wondering why u don't play cpm or warsow though. warsow ctf (r.i.p.) offered the most active and fun gameplay i've ever experienced.

I tried Warsow but I didn't really like the graphics and I think I quickly pushed it away because my computer couldn't support it. Same with Quakeworld. I tried but somehow I never got to play a good game. I'll try Warsow again but I'm very afraid of the configuration it takes. It's the same problem that keeps me from buying Reflex :( .

Wow lots of butthurt going on. If you think matchmaking sucks in QL, you're right, but you're also trash at the game. Get better.

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Quake hasn't been as popular as cs since like 2001/2 lol @ 2010

Quake NEVER was as popular as CS, wth are you talking about?
I enjoyed CS:GO for more than a year now, but deinstalled for the 2nd time, because i realized how shit it is, and why i never touched it before. It's the exact opposite of Shootmania: NO movement, sometimes RANDOM hits and OFTEN idiotic teammates who can't teamplay for their mothers life. Never gonna touch that shit again.

you mad because bad

the things that quake needs are different from the things cs is doing.

obviously mm isn't the problem, but quake is hard to watch and that's not getting fixed.

animations are limited because the dimensions of the game are a cross between darts and wipeout xl, because the "designers" don't really understand the mechanics of the game anymore and mapping for it is basically arcane. (see CS:GO for an FPS with a reasonable take on size and speed, without really sacrificing challenge)

first-person quake vods make people motion sick, and usually contain much less information about the game than is necessary to figure out the rules. really both players are bright green blurs that get shot at without having been seen at all? this is my kind of game! oh you die and respawn after a random amount of time in an arbitrary place because of hidden magic rules that aren't impossible to learn, but really quite esoteric? radi-cool! what's that, you say aim isn't adequately resolved across tiny floor surfaces long distance, and no matter how good your aim is or how low your accuracy is, your accuracy is significantly limited by where your feet are, and what is effectively random luck, also obscured by internal game logic? yeah! quake!!

the developers won't make the game better than 40 tick because they're dense and cheap, as a result the game looks out of sync even to people who aren't really paying attention, and the information game is broken in team games because of how often players actuate sounds exactly the same server frame. remember back when you would occasionally get this ripping loud flanging noise? yeah we don't want that anymore, so we just make the game 40 tick, and whatever happens, happens. brilliant fix, id. no it's okay that you ruined close game for everyone, and now every map but dm13 and cure are broken, there's no odd noise when people fire rockets in close proximity. reaction time? hahaha. what do you think this is a twitch shooter?

so basically you've got a first person fighting game, that is unwatchable, doesn't make any sense, and doesn't have a player base.

it's not even gr8 b8
sorry m8
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w8 w8
m8?
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Kinda funny how people on esr are praising Valve but when I look at CS boards all I see is bitching about it.

Lol u dump its Volvo

it's changed abit imo. Atm ppl in esr are not so rude and angry about cs.
Etc. In this moment I prefer MM CSGO games, then quakelive pub duel games :)

playing csgo, getting better at ql

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