all i'm reading is update won't be finished for Qcon, will be released later.

Could be also possible

They could be left with there own devices once quakecon's over.

you`ll be getting doom 4 posters instead

Not releasing anything new is a codeword for releasing what should have been there since 09. Rejoice.

Syncerror said in match/april that there will be a major release/update comming this summer.
I believe it will be released after quakecon.
Some of the features include full steam with VAC support, which means the stand alone version will disappear.

That's just a few things he mentioned on the zlive stream.

I doubt he would lie about it.

I'm hoping for LAN support.

Syncerror said it would be released "in the fall"

But if you watch fazz's stream VOD from Friday the 10th of July, at about 9h20m he shows some of the steam works client and bloodrun intel.

http://www.twitch.tv/fazz/v/7243954?t=9h19m53s

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alsow why does the console look like in id tech 5?

and u can see av3k on his friendlist, looks like hes not in jail then. :O

Looks very nice. If this comes with all the other rumoured stuff qwih mentioned then thats a damn fine update

Too bad fazz didn't show any spectators features.

Any news on that?
It would be nice to have some extra info during QC matches ;)

Damn that ztn intel version sucks bad.

Let's hope they haven't changed the structure at least.

ffs id, stop trying to do something decent with the game so I can hate you without having to think. Keep things simple, god damnit.

Also, why is there apparently a UI overhaul every year and why does the result always suck?

wow that looks very nice, i hope qlranks.com dies after that update, and people stop being dicks when you rape them in duel

They won't play duel so ye...

nobody at id gives a shit about quake

I'm surprised you even bothered asking

Hope dies last.

Alone

doom 4 is new

ql is old


is simple

anyone knows if rumors about showing multiplayer mode for doom 4 this qcon are real or just speculation?

gibs DLC

\,,/ o_X \,,/

If i had doom development in my hands, i would love to show and get hold of the best quakers in the world and pick theyr brains about doom multiplayer . Whatd they think would be needed for doom mp to become a competitive multiplayer game , and what they would accept for the sake of new blood\younger gamers. It dont have to be quake, it just have to be a competitive fast paced game .

They going to do this ? .. dont think so no, as if, never , not happening.

id prove me wrong please. You will soon happen to have worlds best quakers meters away from you at quakecon , it really is the sort of thing one should pay alot of money for , and you can have it for free.
You never seem to realise how much respect you should give the top quakers, many of them have longer education in quake\multiplayer then doctors have for theyr degree.

Am i saying they should make doom mp into what quakers want ? no, i am not , but the subtle changes, absolutely yes .

Still not happening is it ? well doh.

Looking forward to quakelive update , will this update do anything at all ? absolutely not, so what am i waiting for ? i have no idea .

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QL smartphone/tablet edition

syncerror popped up in chat on saturday and said there was a big update coming in the fall, kind of an apology update:
-LG back to 7
-No loadouts
-Standard people can vote maps at the end of games
-New client for Steam
-VAC anticheat system
-Maybe something else i'm now forgetting

also in the past he said next update would give us more server location.


To me that is an update with not that much value in it if that's all it is.. It's fine loadouts are gone, FFA is back to be fun, but the rest is whatever.
LG back to 7 will ruin CA, it will go back as the only relevant weapon there.. And VAC doesn't work for CSGO already.

Lg to 6 was the only useful change they made.

7dmg and lower knockback could work better than actual lg

don't touch the lg's knockback, it's perfect.

go LG 5 and increase KNOCKBOKK!

HAHA they remove thing from game, then put back in and say it is update.

syncerror have error in brain

Brainerror

Removing loadouts would be AMAZING, can return to playing loads of FFA then!

keep LG at 6 and add loudouts to CA would be a good update. In CA you pick one main weapon and then a secondary that only 1 person in the team can have.

I wonder if they will remove item timers too. That would be swell

In FFA once they remove loadouts I'd actually prefer them to keep the item timers in. The players who tend to finish at the top of FFA's know about items whilst the other players on the server (50-75% usually) don't have a clue so it would improve it overall I think.

I dont play FFA so I dont know, but I'd sure like them gone in CTF

Check tier 1 or 2 newbies play. All they care about is fragging, timers or not. Item play comes with experience.

The only people who benefit from loadouts and timers are semi-advanced players, who are already familiar with the game mechanics but suck at it, which increases the skill gap even more.

The timers dont show anything about the item mechanics, nor its importance. Whats worse, they dont show numbers, and Quake is a game about numbers.
Having a simple, fun and rewarding item run tutorial is imperative if we want new players to ever learn anything without months of rape.

7 LG yesss finally I can duel normally again. Fuck I can't wait. I had to change up how I play completely. I hate this turtley rocket with a passion

dont expect answer, dat gorged troll will sleep for at least 48h+

is it April 1st? This sounds too picturesque

this year is all about DOOM

id would make a killing if they made gibs available. All the oldschoolers would get it i think.

If they made default model of sarge body + klesk head all pros would come back from retirement and leave their jobs and families behind.

With all the donuts he eats, I bet Sync will be releasing a lot of gas at QCon. That counts too, right?

my bigg questions for quakecon this time year is because:

Is quakecon 2015 going to BYOD?

BYOD = bringg your own dro
=]

Fuck yeah agree in with dizzel at againsns*!!!!!!

Noice, time to come back from world of Warcraft I guess.

These donut mongers at id couldn't claw their way out of a wet paper bag.

Can't wait for all the new bugs!

So they're putting the game back to normal... and making it steam only.
Meh....

Can't wait for all the new bugs!

Don't worry, they're beta testing at Qcon.

i forgot to add that hte new steam client will kill qlranks so we won't have ELO at least for a while

Also the option to have a server bot, since this will be detected as cheat (VAC)

lolwut? srsly?

Yep. Since loading the minobot is a intervention in the .exe file. VAC detect hacks if they're loaded in the .exe (injection)

: o

so no more bot pracc?

I'd rather have ql ranks and the elo bot instead of an anticheat.

I love when im in a 3v3 with fair teams and some tier 1 scrub connects to the server and tries to just hop in and lopside the teams but the elo bot is like 'hold up you fucknut' and keeps putting him in spec till he rages and fucks off to lol or dota 2 or whatever fag game fags play.

So. Fact is, when there will be a VAC Anti Cheat system, the Minobot, which handles the elo shuffle, will never work again. Since this method of detecting hacks: Checks if something was added or intervented to the quakelive_steam.exe, and if this is the case.. the account will have an game ban, or a VAC ban.

if something was added or intervented to the quakelive_steam.exe, and if this is the case.. the account will have an game ban, or a VAC ban.

source

:)

lol'd

Indeed. At some point, VAC sux.

Syncerror said it will be on fall, not after qcon.
Im hoping for free voting and VAC at least... and no loadouts. Generally unfuck everything.

No qlranks ELO would mean massive tier slumming and all that gay propaganda.

They will remove qlranks elo? wo said that.

Aren't they removing stats tracking?
I've read it somewhere.
That would mean no more qlranks.

And if we look at id's concept of eating donuts I'm sure they will fuck something really hard.

Apparently you can change your nickname, so that will pretty much render qlranks useless.

It gives more options for all abusive shitnuggets to get more offensive with some witty nicknames like "NuckFiggers360".
Finally they are doing something right.

gonna rename myself to evil and fuck with his stats >:D.

If you want to fuck with someone's stats choose He4rTL3sS :)

Yup "we don't need noooo Colostomy Baaaaaaaggs ....Hey......Faggots.....LEAVE THA QUAKERS ALONNNNNE!!!!"

Loadouts, i really doesnt care much about them at FFA. It even has one advantage, if you want to practice withone weapon, you can be sure to always have it, which is good.

What i hate is that in my region, its really hard to find a FFA active server, with or without loadouts. I find FFA much more fun than CA, youre not forced to play with random teammates, you die and dont have to wait before playing, and i find very fun the whole chaotic ffa pacing.

tl;dr PLAY MOAR FFA

tl;dr Play MORE FFA.****

tl;dr ****

ssidr;

So short I did read. :)

I appreciate that. Appreciate that they don't tamper with the game ahead of qcon. And that those 2 or 3 news items concerning ql are being spread out more evenly across the year.

As far as I know, the QuakeCon tournament will be played with the beta client of that update, though.

This time it would actually make sense.

It's possibly the last Qcon for Ql, at least with this kind of a decent prize pool, so why not release a pre-qcon update with spec features?
I dont feel like there's something to wait for. Seven years wasted, so how about a gesture towards viewers, aka the people who kept their jobs safe.

Dude, this constant pessimism around these parts is increasingly getting on my nerves. Specifically because it's the ever same mantra that's been going around for years now.

Yet, what do I see? A lineup of players as glorious as any given year, possibly even more so. Even tox is there, with considerably better preparation than last time. In addition, I'm seeing an attempt at revitalizing the team branch of the game.

So seriously, let's forget about all that other crap right now, please? I want to focus on those games that are soon to come upon us, undisturbed.

Yes, very pessimistic of me to say it would make sense to have spec features ready for this team-oriented qcon.

I was more thinking about your "we need this urgently now because this is gonna be the last decent qcon" tune, obviously. Where all I need is precisely three things: a decent stream, no delays and the games.

In particular, fuck the random noise. The reveals. The updates. The "best qcon ever" blabber. There's a whole year for all the other shit to be dealt with.

And seriously, to single the spec stuff out of their development tree, that's likely to include a ton of other changes - maybe possible. But I really couldn't care less. Just leave the stuff untouched and don't introduce any random fuckups at this point.

quakecon is a fuckup

In hindsight and besides bandwidth consumption, it really makes you realize now why gtv was so great. There's been no way of piggybacking any unsolicited noise onto it.

RESPECT THE PACO

The console chatter was actually pretty amusing back then. And mind you, that's not piggybacking. That's the audience expressing themselves without pursuing any further agenda.

Now we can't even spam the chat with scrollwheel...

Twitch chat is flash, right? Based on what's prolly the buggiest software on this planet.

Caught the news of the Hacking Team exposure a couple of weeks back? They had a bunch of 0-days on flash they themselves used to plant their spyware, and when those became public adobe had to respond with a flurry of patches.

I don't use that twitch web interface anyway. Clunky monstrosity.

is this why my browser kept spamming me with untrusted flash player plugin warnings?

Yes. There's been three or four flash updates during the last weeks. All due to critical 0-days allowing for your pc to get owned. They just became public but have been out in the wild for a while.

Fuck, now probably someone has access to my pedo folders.
Thanks for warning, I will move them to another directory.

As an additional countermeasure, you might want to rename them. Like into secretpedofolders.

I can't dig too deep because I'm afraid I would lose track of them myself!
But I will definetely rotate my monitor to not point at window.

Undercover it is an incomplete IRC implementation.

Yeah, I knew they had an IRC interface but never bothered to set up my client. Now that you reminded me I did though. Appreciated.

it used to be flash, the chat is now in html5 and they are in the process (or so they say) of changing the vids to html5 too. some already work on some browsers by adding a /hls to the vid's url.

all pro player know this is the last year for ql. they all play one last time for ultimate title of best quake player. doom4 come out soon, will stael 85% of all player left.

enjoy while it last, but do not think game is coming back to 2009 glory day. you are dreaming or new to scene if you think this.

Dude, either d4 is actually a better competitive multiplayer game, which I doubt, or it's all back to ql again after 12 months and 4 patches. Either way, it's a win/win situation. So I really don't know what you're babbling about.

Besides, if you think 2009 was glory day you better hang back and listen when your elders talk.

number of player now compare to 2009.

doom4 is new id title. multiplayer will take many player from ql. maybe some come back after 12 month, but only few. most will go to other game. only win for doom4, ql has no chance to regain lost player, it is already on steam. steam only not change anything.

ql patches are nothing special. removed content put back in game is all.

A lineup of players as glorious as any given year

All the top players are 15 year long veterans, that what you mean?

amen.

to be honest, what I really want is LAN support.

this

new update:

positive:
+ no more ql ranks & elo whoring
+ no more ugly dll injection shit elo bots
+ no more ugly user script workaround crap
+ dedicated servers

negative:
- ???

+ tier slumming, ass ramming because without ELO everyone is "equal skill"
+ tier slumming, ass ramming because bots won't kick shit
+ no more features
+ something something no one plays ql anyway

dedicated servers? really? at last? Jesuschrist... If id-Software allow the option of dedicated servers would be more international competition. In the next QuakeCon's, we will see more players from other countries. Quake Live is currently only for United States and Europe and that's not fair. For the dictators of id-Soft, do not exist the quakers communities of South America, North Africa and Asia. I pray for that to happen! My english is bad, sorry.

Syncerror said he's releasing something at Qcon.



Tyryl from his tower.

elder 2.0?

"QUAKE LIVE stats have been temporarily disabled. We're sorry for the inconvenience."

hopefully this is related to something positive

I think it's just them migrating their stats server, or so I heard, but I'm with you, hopefully its something nice they are testing.

i'm excited to watch toxic vs cooller in the duel grand final

Don't be silly adem, we all know it's going to be buzz lightyear vs ze toxinator

It's time for DaHang to become a Quakecon Champion.

harosh hath belief

lol

Are you really bitching about ID staff not working every single year?

Why would anyone expect a good game from this company anymore?

Why not?
I can easily hope for/imagine a scenario where all the "successful" people, (who got their heavy paychecks in every month for decades) would go, and new people (who actually know games and don't shit on gamers and fans) would replace them.
How do you know there is nobody out there who would properly respect the legacy of Doom and Quake like how Machine Games respected Wolfenstein for example?

I don't know, but that's some specific wishing thinking.

Recent releases by id have been subpar. I would rather just wait for a game to be release to read site/user reviews than get my hopes up on nostalgic hype.

so, a new version of ql

waht will it be about? guessing better sound, hoping for better net-code with reduced data-transfer.

better net-code with reduced data-transfer

Wait. This is a surprising "hope". Are you playing on 56kbps dial-up or something similar? (QL should be fine even on that though)

ping situation is horrible. pick up quad -> get 999 for 1min. some maps are worse than others
tip: disable/enable lan- connection, to get normal ping back faster.

Interesting. I honestly never heard of that issue. A puzzling thing is that I have no idea why picking up a quad would increase data transfers.

New layout, new protocol, steam only, apparently no bot managed servers etc etc

Better sound is not one of them.

so, any announcements? missed 99% of qcon and im glad. now i can watch the whole thing from start to end without getting interrupted and less blab ablablablablublublblubber.

ps.: why still no one has try to beat anyone of those id fuckedheads?i'd pay for

Every semi-casual player I talked to (including IRL) all thought not being able to vote for maps was awful. No one wants to play dm45 some map no one has ever seen or cares about.