lol

I'm hoping for too much? :(

Quakecon's best kept secret

yeah with protocol 91 included demos ( wolfcam update required ) = Invalid Playerstate field count 58 : 50

well that fucking sucks :S

There's literally nothing they can do about it though. The demos use a new version. The new version will be released Soon™.

At least they've released them now so Mr Wolfcam can look at the changes and potentially update before the new QL version. At which point we can already have all of the demos nicely downloaded and ready to go.

Yes you are correct, but the annoying thing is not the downloading (it's just some clicks away when they upload it this nicely), it's that we won't be able to have a chance to organize them until they release the new standalone, which would save a bunch of time, even though we have to wait untill a new version of wolfcam to edit them, which hopefully will be here in a couple of weeks, but most likely will take way longer.

I still thing it was a nice move of them to go public with the new client on quakecon, just unfortunate things like this had to occur. I guess we'll have to wait.

Well they had to use the new client for the updated spechud. Hell, I think it was worth it just to be able to see +zoom on stream.

Also funnily enough assuming zooms are now saved as part of the demo, that's probably a big part of the reason for the protocol update being required.

The only way to 'see' stuff as a spectator, is for that data to be added to the packets being sent from the player to the server and then on to you.

All demos are, is a direct dump of that network data, with maybe a unique header added.

So yes, any time the data stored is changed, both the network protocol and the demo format changes, as they're really the same thing.

Yeah I was just covering my arse in case zooms were just sent to the spectator and then not written to the demo for some reason. Also there might be additional team info for the new spechud - I'm not really sure exactly what is and isn't sent to clients now.

Given that demos works like this shouldn't it be possible to just splice new information for other players in and have multi-pov demos in Wolfcam?

Any player data you get increases network traffic, and only sending data for people within PVS was also designed to decrease the effectiveness of wallhacking some.

As they added POI markers for everyone on your team, wherever they are, you are getting that data, so you can at least use wolfcam to watch anyone on the team of the demo recorder for the duration of the game.

But I'd be quite surprised if they opened that up any further, except perhaps for someone recording while spectating.

By splice in new information, I meant after demos are recorded. Some kind of post-processing tool.

It's theoretically possible to combine multiple demos into one demo containing everything but nobody attempted it as far as I know.

http://esreality.com/post/2691563/uberdemotools/#pid2749779

Oh, this is great!

Listening to your explanations. I hope you make least 100000$ a year in some field. Potential unlimited yakumo dragon.

lol

I emailed brugal to give him a heads up about the new protocol. I also relayed some info from sponge over to (possibly) help him get an update out faster.

nice move MaverickMSG, thx

In case you missed it, brugal's been on the case :

http://www.esreality.com/post/2447913/wolfcam-10-0/#pid2755359

http://pastebin.com/J9CnFAJU#

Is this all the demos? They don't list the pov demos if they were streamed.

Also i have a feeling a lot of those demos are corrupted? The cypher vs toxjq demos is 0.08mb which is way smaller than the current format.

wake up

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good show

yabadabayadaaaba make up

anyone know when the new client is expected to be released? i initially heard in the fall but i hope we dont have to wait that long until we are able to view these

sorry if this is the wrong place to discuss this

but it'd be great to have qlranks pick up on things and we all be able to upload demos again.

i don't know who i am more mad at, qlranks.com for not picking up
or id games for changing protocols.

i dont care about elo, but uploading a demo of a nice game is really cool

cecc

And what's the official excuse for not providing few text files weighthing some kilobytes each?

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Cant believe configs got fucked up this year aswell like the previous one.

why you all need so much game settings used by other players?

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POV demos?

Lots missing sadly.

No Evil or Rapha POV in duel at all :/

So no configs this year again?

<t4nk518> sponge do you know when syncerror will upload qcon configs?
<@sponge> dunno i didnt even realize we had pulled them


Tough luck guys.

2nd year in a row fail

ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

tweet from syncerror about the configs here:

i have configs for 62 of 64 players, waiting a bit to sort out our issues with the rapha & evil before uploading.

Link: https://twitter.com/syncerror/status/626919728078917632

Great news for everyone! Can't wait!

What issues about Rapha and Evil ?!

cg_luckcheat "1" command probably :D

Posted by Syncerror via Twitter : https://twitter.com/SyncError/status/628258080522940416

Now available for download, the HUDs and configs of all 64 @QuakeCon 2015 @QuakeLive Tri-Master players:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5o0sayn05i4tygu/Qua...s.zip?dl=0

YES! don't need to browse pornsites tonight.

What the fuck @ Cypher's folder.

THX