so they go for the nearest powerup? :D

not always, see fraze's fuck up at 30secs on first bloodrun video. (Sorry fraze :P)
But anyway it is intended for newbies mostly (u wont believe how many i saw getting the plasma spawn in blood and intantly dropping for lg (without even getting yellow) only to get raped by rockets before even grabbing the gun.
Advanced players might pick up some alternatives too so its all good :)

was just kidding, thx for the montage. putting a map showing the nemy spawn would be nice, maybe some info in the start if they are able to hear them or not.

i know u where kidding, just took the oportunity to make fun of fraze rookie mistake (sorry fraze :P)
although doing what u say about enemy spawn will be sweet, it will require an awfull whole lot amount of work to pull that off, thats why i added the item timers (which show some of the enemy pick ups), but unfortunately video quality kind of ruins it.
There is always the possibility to search the opponent POV in the other videos (or if you have special interest in a particular play, download the demos of that match).

hahah damn you.

I can't help myself to mention that this kind of thread should never be posted on esreality.com. No offense to quake beginners, but it's so lame to make a thread about lazy people who can learn this trivial thing in two days on their own.

Here is an old and better tutorial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYgK2i08gDE

Not sure why you say this shouldnt be posted on esreality.
The first thing to do for a chess player that want to compete is to learn almost every opening combination reading books. They dont figure all on their own. I know quake is different from chess... but it really is the same as chess.

It should not be posted because there are so many other things important in a duel.
And please don't start a war of replies because it's my last post in this stupid thread.

Ok, waiting to comment in your wall-of-text thread about every aspect duel related combined in a single post.

:D lol i agree

i approve of this thread, i, myself, tought for a long time to do something similar but lazyasses will lazyass

Luckly i could automate almost every part of the process. (Learning to automate and getting all the tools took some time though). Now i have to investigate why quality is so shitty (looks "ok" in my pc before uploading to youtube) and the realy lazyness is that i have a painfully low upload bandwidth

actually it could be cool to do something like chess for the openings, but sadly it's really really harder to pile datas because of the nature of the outcome which is harder to put on paper.

Something like bloodrun: player a goes x, player b goes y. Player A got control in % of the cases, First blood went to player A in % of the cases. Player A won the game in % of the times.

But i know it's impossible with what we have :p

cool!

This is definitely awesome. Thanks. :)

nice work!

UP! added sinister

Is this finished?

Would be nice to make a new post and major it :)

not yet... im adding aero today :)

Added Aerowalk

Do you think the K1llsen play when spawning at plasma on ztn is a solid\sound move?

From a positioning standpoint, the normal way you might get rushed with lg while you pick up RG but you'll have a couple of rails to fire and a corridor to fall back into to plasma the shit out of it. The k1llsen way your opponent will have easy access to the lower side of the map after he picks up your YA.

Stackwise, i guess if you hit both your shots (at mega and in the YA room) it's a positive net while if you hit one it's a negative..

i cant really judge on that as im a noob, but i believe he tries not to play standard to throw his opponent off as they might not expect that move from him and might make a sub-optimal response to that. That way killsen with his aim can take full advantage of it.

UP!, ADDED CURE!! Only lost world left!

Wow, this was very fun to watch!

Nice! This helped me a lot with the starting spawns. This should be under forums. Also when is the lostworld version coming out?