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Good idea too bad is just troll post

I would definitely sign up. If classic, no hmg, 8 player divisons and decent FFA maps.

To keep everyone happy there could be 2 divs, 8 player and a 16 player one, with the most suitable maps for each type. It would rock!

Format:
players: 8 / group
ruleset: Classic vql
hmg: no
BFG: yes
fraglimit: 50
timelimit: 15
server location: DEU

Needed mimum FFA games played: 500
Needed minimum amount of time since account created: 3 months
IRC: mandatory, be authed

Admins: 1 / group
Streams: ideally 1 / group

Cup start: 1700 CEST, Saturday
Cup finish: when it's finished

12 (13..) pool;
dm6
dm7
(dm9...)
dm12
dm14
dm15
dm17
dm18
dm20
qzt3
ra3m11
Purgatory
Limbus / Terminatria

8 player groups. (32 participants would be the ideal, so 4 groups).

Everybody gets points; 1st place - 8 pts., 2nd place - 7 pts., 3rd place - 6 pts., ...; 8th place - 1 pts.

Every map gets played, after finished with all, each groups' top 4 move to semis, meaning 16 player. Earned points getting nullified. In the case of equaling points (and it affects the potential advancement to the semis), one map gets played again, which is dm6 or dm20 (cointoss; heads / tails).


Semis gets played on:
dm6
dm18
dm20
ra3m11
qzt3

Same as before, 1st place - 8 pts., 2nd place 7 pts. etc.

After each map got played, top 2 of each group (4 x 2 = 8 players) makes their way to the final. Points get nullified again.

Finals gets played on:
dm6
dm7
dm12
dm17
dm20

Only top 3 gets points (3 - 2 -1), after the last map finished, points get added together and we have the final rankings.


Well, I'm no expert in organizing events, but I would go with something along these lines. Proper stream ofc.
Maybe little prizes (subscription, a mouse pad, cord holder, small things like that), some extra titles, like "most excellents", "most impressives", "most quadkills", "biggest BFG-whore :>", "most kills with machinegun", "fewest deaths", "MVP: most kills".


LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN.

Looks super fun

the layout seems great.. i would however prefer 12 player matches, as 8 feels a bit lonely for me on some maps. :]

and why the relentless necroing of the ancient played-out maps, people made new maps for the sole purpose of making quakelive feel and play at least a tad bit refreshed and unique, and now we toss that and play the same old recycled shit we've been playing for the last 15 years? they're not bad maps at all, we're just not used to them. i understand the dilemma of balance and flow in duel, but for ffa, let's be real, most of them are perfectly good and fun to play, you just need to develop a system of positioning and you're good to go. :)

Quake players embracing change? Did I die and go to heaven?

There's Purga / Limbus / Terminatria for that reason (besides playing great in FFA). When you want to find out who's the best, you should play maps that have been played tens of thousands times before so everybody will feel at home. I also chose maps by diversity; they play quite differently.

For example, Servitude is nice but imo not belonging to a championship's pool. At least yet. On the other hand, I would ban dm6 from existence for instance (it's so boring), but I know that it plays good in FFA and basically everybody knows it inside-out - expect manly tears if there's no dm6 in the pool.

Or I <3 dm8 but most people hate it from their bottom of their hearts, so I left it out. Or dm1 is funny, but to place it into the pool is meh. Or Elder is awesome both in duel both in FFA, but most people would cry that they never played it before, wtf etc.


What I miss is dm9... ;________;

yeah, hero's keep was awesome. :] don't get me wrong, i get where you're coming from. i just thought it would be fun to have something fresh in the mappool (servitude for example was precisely one of the maps i had in mind also), and ffa seems like the gametype that can "handle" untested/imbalanced maps far better than other gametypes.

that said, this always has been, of course, a very subjective topic. :]


edit: wtf encoding -.-

I personally don't believe anything will stay fresh and cool for infinitely long... I do like new/returning ideas. So yes, this sounds good right now under these circumstances but I don't believe in anyone saying it's fundamentally better than whatever else. This stuff too has a very good chance of getting mind-numbingly repetitive for any one viewer after enough times.

Secondly, if you keep using Q3-and-older names for maps, you're actively alienating any part of the community that's newer than Q3. There is no-one in the world who will eagerly go out of their way to learn what are essentially completely arbitrary code names (in most cases), not proper names as normal humans understand it, just to get "in on it". I'd get it if they were unique short forms of each of the full map names, such as "aero".

Sick of being forced to play boring CA, ive been keeping a FFA server up and lots of people is pretty happy with it.

FFA is an outstanding mode:

-constant action (ca you have to wait between rounds)
-Items (ca no items boooo)
-strafe is important (strafe isnt in ca)
-anyone can join at anytime (ca you have to wait if match is running and teams full)
-people of different levels can be on a same server and each try to improve on their positions vs relative players of similar skills
-QUAD FUCKING DAMAGE (ca booooo)
-Insane pace
-FUN TONS OF FUN
-Excellent warmup/practice option

This thread is gSTRUCTOR approved.

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Indeed and to add on that, i think to learn Quake the best mode is FFA because it train so much more effectively your aim, your dodge and your movements. You learn movement much faster in FFA. You learn to go grab weapon X or Y, you learn to go fast from A to B, to learn to rush to items etc.

Agreed, the insane pace forces you to make decisions constantly at a rate no other mode has.

your server has loadouts enabled tho

Yes its very noob friendly, otherwise not enough people connected to play proper ffa (ffa between 2 or 3 players aint fun). When the new patch arrives, im planning to leave it classic style, already having a minimum ffa community active and using the patch as excuse for the change. If numbers drop bigtime, i prolly will put loadouts again.

8+ player loadout ffa > 3 player non loadout ffa

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Stop sexualizing everything you gender disorientated freak!

I don't think that was very nice of you.

On the one hand you are right, on the other hand he jacks off to MLP. But then again, I might just be joking.

An exclamation mark will fix this.

Hehe it was perfect of you, however :)

h-h-hey I wanted to spell out our Lord and Savior Hesus "Jizus" Christ.

Insulting my religion, 8/10 comeback

god yes. just throw the loadouts out. :]

loadout ffa = more actions less luck imo
it's not bad, come and play )
http://www.twitch.tv/cookieahaha/v/15264530

"Less luck"?

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If you think in weapons, yes it is. Without loadouts, if you spawn far from a main weapon youre probably basically screwed vs any player with weapons. With loadouts, you have a good weapon as start, which makes the weapon aspect of the game less random as in weight of the distance to weapon you spawn. That said, i prefer without loadouts too.

Not true.

mg is a really nice weaapon, despite the popular belief, you can make fragstreaks with it. One of the key points in FFA is to choose your opponent correctly and position yourself (as best as you can) accordingly.
Another key point (among others) is to be efficient with basically every weapon, including mg (and gl, pg too, heck even pummel) and knowing how to get them.

Less luck? Spawn raping is basically reduced to almost ashes, despite being a KEY part in proper FFA. Just think about it; your rocket lamer (who can't aim by the way) just died. He repeatedly pressing +attack, so he can spawn as soon as possible. Often that means that in the exact moment he / she spawns, he / she will shoot an unintended rocket forwards. Ofc you will be there to eat it full. That's just retarded. Same can be said about basically any other weapon as well, but the most notable cases are when rockets involved. Even if it doesn't kill you, you lose 100-130 hp from a freshly spawned player, when you should have lost like 20-25 max before moving on to another opponent - or forcing the same spawn again. Instead, basically he / she (the opponent) benefits from dying. Just lol.
There are a few cases when you should benefit from it, like forcing certain spawns or before powerup you have very-very little stack and want a fresh start before it spawns, or forcing yourself spawn at an upcoming RA / MH for example, but these cases are pretty purpose-specific.

In the end, most of the time you still win, just die more.


Also when loadouts are involved, you shouldn't forget about these things (pasted from an older post of mine, edited);

The game is just a random spamfest for most people and map (/item) control (which was a key part so far) has prolly lost its meaning. You won't get rewarded if you control an area (mostly a certain weapon or armor) by playing good, because everybody spawns with whatever they want.
You don't have to fight to get a weapon, you don't need a solid plan to win. Just position yourself well and that's it. Sad.

It's also saddening that I choose lg / rg / sg on most maps and I don't have to go anywhere if I don't want to, just playing instagib-like, hitting 20-40 impressives per game, hitting 45+ lg from spawn, hitting every sg and win. This is not FFA.

It's also true, that the average quality of the pub FFA players (and available servers too!) dropped considerably and many of the more capable guys stopped completely or moved to other game modes - because they find this whole situation as ridiculous as I do.

But let's get back to the techincal side.
It also means unified ammo packs. Let's play a map, where there's a BFG and I'll show you how fun and noob-friendly this update is.
But you can replace BFG with any other weapon; lg, rg, rl, whatever, you name it.
Now, you don't have to go to certain places on a map to refill your armanent. Just grab the nearest ammo pack and you are good to go. And EVERY weapon of yours will benefit from it. lol.
If this is not enough to make whoring easier than ever, these ammo packs respawns in every 10 s instead of the old 40. Even less effort needed.

So far, you used pretty much every weapon, at least to a certain extent.
Now, you use 1-2 guns most of the time. You don't really have to use more. 3, if you are truly sophisticated. Just bleh.

I didn't mention hmg yet. Ridiculous. Overpowered. For example, played a few DM17 and I didn't even really had to switch away - unless I wanted to play in a diverse and fun way. There was no point to do so. Hitting 40-44% with it doing the job on any distance (except VERY long range). You can't start with a rail there, but you can with hmg. Figures.

Item timers; might be good for newbies to get accustomed to the FEEL of cycling items. BUT. Don't forget, that veterans will also see these timers. Even less effort must be invested on their part to rule the world.

Why? Let's say there's an important YA. Normally, you wouldn't see anything, just the empty "armor stand". You weren't there for like 2 minutes now, so you have absolutely no idea when will it spawn. You can either choose to stay there for even like 20 seconds (or just 6 - the key factor is that YOU DON'T KNOW, unless it's not the early part of the game when you can guesstimate pretty accurately) and try to defend it, or you can go on your way and checking back from time to time, hoping that you will catch it sooner or later. But now? Just get a glimpse on the timer; "hmmm, roughly 10 sec - gonna grab rg, then trying to surprise some ppl at lg jumppad from superior position, then coming back" --> result: you grab rg (if you didn't have it already), kill 2 poor bastards at jump pad, return to YA, voilá, YA spaws just as you got back, you take it and proceed to the next item / farm position.
There were games where I cycled literally EVERY FUCKING ARMOR (even most of the shards too) and 2 power ups (Quad + BS) on the map for 10 minutes. Without dying.
LOL.

So tl;dr: it's way easier to utterly destroy noobs or mediocre players than ever.
Sure, there are cases, when people who were NEVER EVER came close to the 50 fraglimit, now they do it sometimes. But it's just because they spawn with rl and getting lucky, nothing more. In the end, totally not deserved.
This is not the way to make a game more beginner-friendly. That would be ladders and truly working tier / elo system which would warn (at least 2 times) noobs when they're trying to join a high-skill server and woldn't let terminators join lower-skilled servers to noobstomp (unless it's unrestricted) .


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Ideal (and highly skill-based) FFA:

-completely removed loadouts
-removed unified ammo packs and reverted ammo respawn time back to 40 s
-removed item timers
-removed hmg
-restored old weapon spawn points
-removed old maps being available (main concern is dm9)
-player count maxed out at 8 players, 12 on really huge maps (Black Cathedral, dm12, Cold War for example - well Castle Deathstalker and Silent Fright can be 16).
-old voting system

listen to urself. allthough i don't wanna say u're wrong, to some1 way more neutral if it comes down to what makes nice arena fps gameplay this list reads so much like narrow minded q3/ql fanboyism that it's ridiculous. back to the past, cuz the best ffa gameplay this universe could ever possibly offer=q3/ql (with other maps maybe)!?
no offence, and i rather blame the way human brains work than urself, but i find it kinda funny how ppl aquire concepts of things which they are later unable to question/leave behind...and rigurously base their ideals (norms might be the better word) on those.

"cuz the best ffa gameplay this universe could ever possibly offer=q3/ql"

And QW.

"to some1 way more neutral if it comes down to what makes nice arena fps gameplay this list reads so much like narrow minded q3/ql fanboyism that it's ridiculous"

Those neutral ones has no clue that's why.

Anybody who has at least a decent skill in FFA will agree with me. What's happening now on pub is the ridiculous.

yeah with loadouts I grab armors and megas only when it is spawned right in front of me otherwise i dont wait even for 1 sec.
i think they should give you 500 health or 500 armor etc instead of 100.
the amount of the damage happening on the map with loadout is high.

I agree with most of your points about true FFA, but saying "This is not the way to make a game more beginner-friendly. That would be ladders and truly working tier / elo system" doesnt cuts it for me, while id implements it (as in NEVER) i'll do what i can today to help attract less experienced players to a server they can enjoy and get hooked to the game, while vets can practice albeit in a less deep ffa ruleset.

i actually agree.
when I used to play q3test, the weapon spawn time was longer than this and no item timer, I could circle around the map to get items while taking high position to rape people that has mg only with my rockets.
good memories.

But at the same time getting spawnraped with having mg only is not fun.
And it can be really random sometimes if you can get a good weapon or not.
This is the main reason why I said load out ffa was more stable even with less importance of armors.
And I believe this is one of the biggest reasons why noobs leave this game quickly.
I agree that a good matchmaking can solve this tho

basically TDM's zzz

Are you implying it's unlucky to spawn with machine gun and gauntlet? Just because someone has some other weapon doesn't mean they have a lot of health and armor. It doesn't mean they know how to use it well or dodge. Any of this "bad luck" could very well be balanced by "good luck" once you establish control of a few items. Failing to do this is less about luck and more about your skill. That is what happens in a real FFA without loadouts. The best players will win more often than in loadouts because loadouts is less skill based. As nYmPhets mentioned, eating a rocket from a fresh spawn is really frustrating, especially if your play is LG based. If you have 25 cells left, are about to get your kill and someone spawns behind you and destroys you with RL it just makes me sick. Every time it happens I immediately think "why am I playing this?". I initially supported loadouts when they were first introduced because I thought the noobs would prefer it over classic FFA making FFA more popular in general. I assumed that there would be just as many classic FFA servers as loadout ones. I was wrong though, loadout FFA has all but completely taken over classic in United States. Every once in awhile someone hosts classic but even when they do you're fortunate if over 6 people join it. Loadout FFA is disgusting and I can't stand it. My FFA style was to have as few deaths as possible. My intention when a match would end 50-0 hopefully a noob would be inspired to figure out how that is possible and try to become a better player. This is extremely unlikely to happen in loadout FFA because it encourages you to just fly into every battle like an idiot and not even bother timing any items. This tactic has given me possibly 80% or higher win percentage in loadout FFA. For this it is even worse than CA because at least in CA there is some level of composure. They should just add BFG to loadout or have BFG somewhere on the maps. Better yet, remove armors and mega health because following the logic of why loadouts is fun this means even more action and kills. Worst of all there are really people who exist that take loadout FFA seriously. Like there is something rewarding about winning or losing. The shotgun shitshow or mouth breathing plasma spam you deal with is vomit inducing. There is nothing to be learned or enjoyed about loadout FFA it is an abomination that should not exist.

So you prefer a nearly empty non loadout server to a full loadout server?

Do I prefer it? Yes. I would like there to be an actual choice though. Right now it is play loadout or don't play FFA at all.

Exactly, instead of killing the closest thing to real FFA, we should be hosting loadout servers and bringing fresh blood to the game. FFA is the best mode for that. Its not real FFA, but its 100x better than CA.

The problem is that there's no guarantee that the fresh blood will stay (most likely not) and even if they do, that doesn't benefit the veterans at all, since 98% of the new players will stay at a VERY low level, so the amount of people whom they can play against in a challenging way won't really increase - and even if it does (like 3 poeple out of 100), it will take years.

If the new players decide to stick around, loadouts won't be the determining factor. Might as well let them play quake the way quake has always been. Don't bs new players, it's bad for you as well as them.

Played yesterday some loadouts FFA and it sucked. But hope is after patch it will be removed on most of the servers if not on all.

Also why need to compare CA to FFA and impose some fake superiority of one over the other? They are completely different modes and both have their players and place in quake community.

The superiority is not fake though.

In what context ?

Being Quake.

:D

try this one

Trailer looks fun. Not sure about the game though.

"They are completely different modes and both have their players and place in quake community."

Delusional or lying. Only active mode in my region is CA, as is in most regions. Some duels here and there, but if im gonna wait to play only duels i'd play very little. Thats why i compare CA to FFA, because both are more casual and noob friendly, but FFA is a lot deeper and enjoyable, even with loadouts.

I disagree. With loadouts FFA is pure crap, nowhere near solid CA game. And without loadouts, it would again be useless to compare them considering one is team mode and another is solo. Saying one is better than the other is just .. weak argument to make.

LOL now youre biased, you hate a mode that lets you chose one weapon, while praising other that gives you ALL weapons. Also one mode has items and strafing becomes key, while the other has zero items and strafing isnt as important.

FFA w/loadouts >>>>> CA

Do you even read my posts before spitting nonsense ?

Yes the delineation between the two modes is undeniable. No point in listing the differences. Population comparison is not a valid arguement for comparing modes.

The biggest problem with loadout FFA is that too many people prefer it over normal FFA.

Well, there're way more nabs than decent / good players.

As in anything thats the rule, the higher skill you go, the less amount of players you find.

I think it depends greatly on the size of the match, or rather the number of players in a given amount of space. 12-16 players in loadout FFA on Almost Lost is pretty much a lottery -- you'll see CA T5s and duel T5s separated from ffa T2s by a couple of frags. In other words, the skill ceiling becomes very low. OTOH, 8 player loadout FFA on a decent size map still retains most of the skill ceiling you'd see in classic, although lower skill players will end up with more autohop +forward RL frags than they would in classic. Agreed on the shotgun shitshow, which again corresponds to how overcrowded the map is. I can't comprehend why they didn't limit the match size for loadout ffa. A while ago I won an FFA with around 8200 dmg (something like 4k net) using a good mix of LG, RL, RG and only scraped by with 3 frags more than the tn -20 shotgun troll and his 5000 dmg. The vomit inducing plasma spam is pretty hilarious. Plasma became the new nades after they removed GL from loadouts. I have literally seen a T0 ffa player beat a high skill T5 guy with pure pg warp spam... He really wasn't even aiming.

It will be nice being able to independently callvote loadouts, timers, universal ammo, etc in the new update. Timers are harmless imo because effective timing requires planning ahead, not stumbling upon an item timer. I think loadouts are probably a bad thing overall, but I've wondered how the game would play without universal ammo. Universal ammo REALLY encourages spam, and might actually be worse than loadouts.

Whoever runs the loadout FFA server in Australia (or used to before our servers died) would always put Fatal Instinct in the rotation, which was literally just plasma spam. Lots of people would vote for it at the end of a match, even to play it twice in a row. This is on a 16 slot server, with 12+ players some days.

It was sickening.

I love FFA and would continue to play it as much as I did before but they introduced loadouts =(

Otherwise it's my favourite mode and what deathmatch is all about!

tony comeback!

and visje

He was active not long ago.

ffa is the 2nd best mode after duel for me

I think most duelers like ffa, since is like dueling but with many ppl (apart from being hit on the back while u r fighting face to face in a manly manner vs 2 other players). The ppl that h8 it, are the team mode players.

tdm is the 2nd best mode after duel for me

I think most duelers like tdm, since is like dueling but with a team (apart from being hit on the back while u r fighting face to face in a manly manner vs 2 other players). The ppl that h8 it, are the ffa players.

No. I <3 TDM.

:)

It's casual by nature, you can't have competitive FFA.

they do competitive CA

Meaning it's more suitable for competitive play, less random and more strategic.

More randomness can be fun, best player in server wins 99% of the time anyways.

LOL tell that to all those quakecons with FFA qualis...

We did those for a while when #ffapickup launched. -FFA- clan hosted weekly events that almost revitalized the gametype.

-FFA- clan basically reaped what they could from the unnamedtony's UGC victory and tried to promote the gametype when it was ironically played and praised.

Biggest one Included strenx, spart1e, ddk and the back-then FFA masters, check it out.

Then people simply stopped caring, the joke wasn't that funny any more and the majority figured out it just doesn't cut it from a competitive perspective.
It is loads of fun though and allows players or various skill level to do some damage and enjoy the game.

Wouldn't call it spectator friendly though, there's so much actions going on and you never know who's on a killing streak.
followkiller is not an option, switches POV like crazy. You have to pick someone who you think will be on a lucky streak and in FFA it's often hard to predict who will get great spawns etc.

anyway if there's a FFA thingy happening I might even chip in and offer some support in some way.

.... people underestimate freefloat camera!

Combining freeloat camera with 1 person POV is the key! ... now if we had a simple map with oponnets on the that map for spectators that makes it even better.

I think I started all this FFA fame shit back in 2010.


http://www.esreality.com/files/misc/2011/8032...legend.swf

Then that tony guy stole my Thunder.

Before that shit I did, nobody wanted to know about FFA, a short while later, they were all playing it at a lan with pros, hey, I'm just saying....

I think Quakecon FFA precedes 2010 when they used it to make seeds or groups, I can't remember which.

2002 and 2005 that I know of. Maybe more.

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XD

I liked it. Could of gotten a lot least a couple yellow armours to prevent deaths that happend right after not possible doing them up. Nice though.

i like how the the music selection starts as sad then ends up in a joyful tune like in rael life, i guess we all have a little jamerio in all of us

God no.

I love and always have FFA

I'm a pure dueler now but for years and years I enjoyed the unique frag fest bliss of a single malt Quake 3 FFA.

+1 for a FFA tourney BUT I don't think its "that" viewer friendly.

pros

- fun to watch for everyone because anyone can enjoy air rockets and insane aim / dodge, anyone can enjoy a big quad run, funny grenades,

- very easy to follow (not like team modes) : you just have to follow for all the game the one or 2 stars of the map, and from time to time the underdog making a comeback.

- a lot of suspens almost every game

cons

- probably very repetitive and too chaotic to watch for more than 30 min :D. This prob can be solved by a good choice of maps though. Trying to set maps differing a lot from one another with fun power ups, completely different layouts / gameplay (space / not space, rail / no rail, quad / another power up than quad...)

- commentator nightmare, both for the commentators and the spectators. They will be forced to say bullshit 90% of the time because there's not much to say except "woah ! insane double air rocket from cypher", "he's right on time for the quad damage"

And NO, FFA is not a gazillion times more enjoyable than duel :D

I had the most fun playing Quake3FT on TheDOG & FFA on Quake4, i got never that warm on QL but thats a diff time now, all has changed ...

Gazz12 tried to use crouchsliding in QL *lol* my guess he never played Quake4 :)

QL ffa better than QL ca.

Only classic mode brah!

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So basically you are just lazy typing a few characters once in a week.

use roboform http://www.roboform.com/

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Yeah FFA without loadouts is great fun. If loadouts were removed on standard FFA servers again I'd jump in and play every now and then. It's perfect to play when you don't have much time and want some instant fun. Now with loadouts I rather play some other game :/

You prefer CA to FFA w loadouts?

I don't play CA, that mode doesn't interest me. I prefer UT2004 FFA or CS:GO to Quake FFA with loadouts though.

The italian Lan has shown, pros playing ffa can be a lot of fun. also a tournament can be done in 2 hours since every player is playing at the same time.

this is one of the 6 best italian achievements since mani pulite

just to point something interesting that is going on here

63 comments so far and yet not stupid troll posts (didn't read all, but still). Even jamerio’s post is quality trolling and can’t imagine a proper thread about ffa without his famous vid.

Long live Ffa, the ultimatiey DM

Quaking quake the way quake was meant to be quaked.

The final round could always be a duel.

Troll or serious? Either way, go quake yourself.

serious if the tourney was by elimination.
8 servers of 8 people. Top 4 stay.
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could do a loser bracket thing too.

Could be by placement. Could do deeper rankings with damage etc if it was more of a circuit kinda thing leading up to a super grande final tournament at the end of the year.

No, it could be CA, each player in one team, one with highest points wins. CA is the true FFA gametype.

Competitive FFA? No, it's a great game-type, but it's horrible to spectate. Unless I am part of the game, the context of it is void to me. It's not for spectating, I've seen the commentary of such high tier FFA matches, it's dull as fuck.

you`d be better off with Q43A last man standing, once your respawn/lives are up, they cannot respawn, just sit and wait for next game as a spectator

I miss quadhog ffa devpick, that was hella fun.

#HouseofHog

Devpicks were the only noteworthy promising concept that those two donut golems ever managed to produce over their 6 year saga of procrastination... and they let that die too.

You can host those.

True, it used to be premium only though so I never bothered. Got one up yesterday and one player joined in 10 minutes but I'll try again.

there are like 2 or 3 servers in eu where you can play ffa with decent players and have like ~5 frags difference between first and last place in the end of the match, it's fun as fuck


since I never really cared about playing duel myself in ql because of all the changes comparing it to q3 it's my main mode atm, alongside with playing some ctf or 'team combat servers' where you have tdm freeze tag and dom mixed together

So u fighting for second place?

:]

-Only mode were camping isnt even an option, cause its not about who dies less but who kills more

I beg to differ.

ffa is all about not dying while stacking up. Unless you go for a mid ranking with 1/1 k/d ratio.

Stacking up is good in ffa yes, camping is not. You can camp in a place without action and be really stacked but not fragging, while other player kill dies kill dies and racks up frags.

That's why you have to choose your camping routes wisely.

"camping routes"

Obviously small-area control and little detours.

I would love to watch the killstreaks and get interest up in classic ffa. please do this.

From the perspective of someone who never played q3 and only really got into quake live in last two years, classic FFA is awesome and hating loadouts isn't just some purist opinion. I dunno how anyone could enjoy being forced to play all game with one OP starting weapon and constant death, while items are a pointless diversion being spammed by anyone who checked the radial display in the past 25 seconds.

Classic FFA is the most easily fun/relaxing mode imo, you don't have to win or even be playing well to have a good time, you don't have to wait for rounds, you can practice your timing even if its just running one yellow (and that armor might actually last you till the next pickup), you have incentive to use a variety of weapons, you get the fun of teeing off on some helpless MG guy with rockets but you can still rush down kills off the spawn with your own MG...