english please

My custom hud didn't break.

This was able to fix my armor counter, but there was still was horizontal issues with my health and ammo. I sort of fixed it by just trial and error for the horizontal value, but it has issues staying in the right place when it changes resolutions and centering when the number changes.

The horizontal issues are likely caused by the align switch.

Before the beta, align didn't work for most hud text elements (the scorebox was an exception). Now, you can actually set the text to align center, left, or right. The alignment will be based on the text's position.

Examples:

  |84 <-- align 0
 8|4  <-- align 1
84|   <-- align 2

The "|" denotes the text's position (rect x x)

So what do we set align to if we want to replicate the old behavior? I'd guess 0?

I think so, but that might not be optimal depending on your hud layout.

Right now I'm using align 1 for both health and armor. However, if I were to change it, I would probably set my health to align 2 and my armor to align 0 (adjusting the positions appropriately). That way there would always be exactly the same space between my ammo count and hp/armor indicators. This setup would give a slightly different feeling of symmetry than both at align 1.

Is align the same as textalign? or should I add another line for align?

I fixed my config today, and it didn't look like textalign did anything. Adding in aligns can make a big difference, but you have to tweak the x position of the items and have some understanding of how everything in your hud is set out.

Thankfully you can play with settings while the game is open, and /loadhud to see what changed. Experimentation is pretty much required to get everything looking nice again.

Did you manage to get the names of players you're spectating added? I just noticed that's broken for custom huds.

Doesn't it swap to the default spectator hud?

edit: never mind this is a bug that affects default hud as well.

align is for ownerdraws, textalign is for "text"

The numbers for ammo health and armor are cut in half because they are too low on my hud, the rest seems the same.

In case anyone is curious, the text's offset is actually 1/3 of the text's size times the textscale.

text size = textscale*36 <-- vertical height of text

The smaller the text, the less it moved with the new update.
textscale 1.5 was offset by 27 (or 1/2 of its 54 height)
textscale 1 was offset by 12 (or 1/3 of its 36 height)
textscale 0.5 was offset by 3 (or 1/6 of its 18 height)
textscale 0.25 was offset by 0.75 (or 1/12 of its 9 height)

If you are just fixing your current hud, knowing the offset is enough. When creating a new hud, it might be useful to know how the offset relates to text size so you can get the spacing exactly how you want it.

Would you have the original large hud file from the steam version please ?

From before today's update?

I still have the files from the standalone client, which should be identical. However, that hud is very broken, even with the fix. Just to give you an idea, the health indicator starts at 451 and has a text size of 36 (extending to 487). The bottom edge of the screen is 480, so it extends 7 units below that.

If you want to build a hud based off of the default large hud, extract pak00.pk3 located here:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Quake Live\baseq3\pak00.pk3
The large hud is located in the ui folder and called comp_hud.menu. It is referenced by hud3.txt.

No, I meant the one they use now with the steam version, but I think I'll find it in the same folder you told.

The thing is, I got a weird bug for a long time now with my custom hud where my timer doesn't always show up. Sometimes, I need to do a vid_restart to have it appear so I wouldhave like to take the original HUD as a base and just work from here because it's not supposed to have any bugs.

I don't know where this bug is coming from. The timer part goes like this :

menuDef {
name "timer"
fullScreen MENU_FALSE
visible 1
rect 2 0 32 256
widescreen 2


itemDef {
name "Timer"
rect 410 200 50 12
visible 1
textstyle ITEM_TEXTSTYLE_SHADOWED
forecolor 1 1 1 .3
textscale .90
ownerdraw CG_LEVELTIMER
}

itemDef {
name "timer Icon shadow"
rect 0 49 14 14
style WINDOW_STYLE_FILLED
backcolor 0 0 0 .7
background "icons/icon_time.tga"
visible 0
}

itemDef {
name "timer Icon"
rect -1 48 14 14
style WINDOW_STYLE_FILLED
backcolor .7 .7 .7 .7
background "icons/icon_time.tga"
visible 0
}
}

No, I meant the one they use now with the steam version, but I think I'll find it in the same folder you told.

Yes, the current default large hud is the one in pak00.pk3 that I was talking about in the 3rd paragraph (comp_hud.menu).

The thing is, I got a weird bug for a long time now with my custom hud where my timer doesn't always show up.

Maybe choose a different name for the first itemDef so it isn't the same as the menuDef? Otherwise, I don't see anything immediately apparent that would cause it to disappear and reappear on a vid_restart. It might be something else in your hud or config.

Either way, go ahead and check out the default hud or mine to see if there are any differences you notice.

I tried the default hud3 and the aromr and life numbers are a bit messed up it seems with the bars.

I will try to modify the positions of my own armor and life numbers, it should be fine.

Still, I got a problem with the ammo count. I use the icon of the weapon centered and the ammo count below it. The problem is that I can't have a symetrical number. Is there a way to have the numbers always centered ?

Right now, the 1 of "1" and "100" start from the same place. It would be cool to have the 1 of the "1" be at the "0", so that the center of the number always stay in the same position. I don't know if you understand what I mean...

Here are two screenshots to see it better :

This was already addressed here.

Use align 1 and ensure position coordinates are correct.

What's the difference between align1 and widescreen 2 ? Where should I put align 1, in the itemdef or menudef ? Excuse me for these questions but my knowledge is limited.

Also, what is this cmd for : fullScreen MENU_FALSE ?

What's the difference between align 1 and widescreen 2 ?

Each element in your hud is associated with a box (rect x x x x).
Align is used to position that element within its own box.
Widescreen is used to ensure that box is correctly positioned for widescreen resolutions.

Where should I put align 1, in the itemdef or menudef ?

Align should be used in the itemdef and widescreen should be used in the menudef.

Also, what is this cmd for : fullScreen MENU_FALSE ?

Not really sure, but I don't think I've ever seen it enabled. Just keep it as is and you should be good.