Guess I'm downloading the soundtrack only then :/

Most people could tell from the released gameplay videos that its going to be shit, but thanks for confirming it for the last doubters

doom doesn't have speed, people who run through everymap map are gay and belong on console

don't know what people cry about, the doom random level generator is never long out of ids basement after the retail release

Have you even played Doom?

Sure, it wasn't Hexen II where we had to walk through 4 damn MAPS bringing a key or puzzle solution. But still, Doom wasn't linear, no doors ever closed behind you within a level, to the contrary - you had to go back with some keycard all the time. And you compare that to console gayness?

linear doesn't mean you don't back track, maps are just 1 way forward with limited exploration

linear is just a new word to describe most games since the year 2000

You are right about the terminology, but you know what he meant. Those series of corridors and checkpoints along with shitty cutscenes connecting them.

https://youtu.be/okXjAfWdWKU?t=5m39s

It's Austria not Australia!

what is

rage is linear except for the driving part, you just have a convenient cable or rock blocking your path or a door that only half opens, you still have to go back sometimes to hit a door with your lock grinder etc

the maps don`t take that long to load, so its easy to do the non linear DLC, with a few more extra months to finish the maps and be able to go back and forth between maps

first real image of the baron of hell

http://www.pcgames.de/screenshots/1020x/2016/...-games.jpg

Also, there's this german article
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&...1183922%2F

Talks about texture loading and other problems that occured if someone turned too fast

they all say that about rage, so use my rage config and have it all working sweet

http://www.esreality.com/post/2793030/my-new-rage-config/

on a ti 750 without overclocking

You can't escape texture pop-ip with those engines, all you can do is make it barely noticable.

Doesn't matter to ESR people, the guys here have picmipped brains and all. But the actual GAME in the game is what counts. Game is supposed to be "arcade", which means it's about your dexterity and speed, not pondering sights.

Not that looks aren't nice to have or unimportant. But the top priority is somewhere else.

texture popping is all gone, default settings got too many triangles etc, make your card prioritize over textures, cant texture something that dont exist

mess with these and popping will come or go

r_sb_occluderFacing "0"
r_sb_parallelPolyOfsUnits "16"
r_sb_polyOfsFactor "8"
r_sb_polyOfsUnits "16"

Thank god we have p0rt. Single-handedly saving id titles since Q4...

never played the wolfenstiens

The Wolfenstien games are good examples that even slow and linear games can be entertaining and fun if done properly (not that I expect anything like that from Doom, but "hope dies last"). Did not regret playing New Order at all, it was time well spent.

i`ll buy it when it costs £8 or less like most games on dvd, i never buy them new or from steam, downloading 100mb is shit

New Order is a great game.

Bethesda can eat dicks. Since the first footage came out I knew I won't give a penny for that shit game. I might pirate it tho, just to see how bad it really is

be trippin





classic doom were good cos u were stoned, doom 4 be the shit for everyone who gets stoned today and for the next 20 years

When you get interrupted by the 5th unnecessary and too lonh cut scene you're gonna change your mind. And even if sp ends up enjoyablr, they royally fucked up mp

gameshows are anything to go on, they all just turn up with a demo level, that shows off 90% of thats to be expected, and the level is nothing like the actual game

pretty sure you won`t go around a few corner and find 6 weapons, melee cutscenes would be if you do a melee

mp cant be that bad

2 weapon loadout 6v6 tdm without any type of advanced movement and with mele grabs is not bad? You must enjoy advanced warfare too

somewhere in the sp vid, it switches weapon without the console selector. still just press 2, same in rage

I can take almost everything, but a 2 weapons limit? Is that confirmed for real for the pc version?

doubt it, weapons use the same anims as rage, probably have 2 ammo types for each weapon, so the chainsaw goes in reverse

2 weapons in multiplayer afaik

-> https://youtu.be/4r_Rzum8db0?t=5m59s

who cares about the german version, it will have green blood like all other id games, if its not actually fully banned

You surprised? :D

So it's shootmania?

PC version has gone down £10 on amazon for the uk

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bethesda-505001338889...rds=doom+4

steam is still £40 without the dvd

http://store.steampowered.com/app/379720/

So much whine and still you all will play it.

Did Quakers really expect Doom4 to have a good multiplayer? Some of the stuff he described about snapmap even sound good.

But I don't care about the multiplayer to be honest, a last time I just want to furrow through the singleplayer hell that my first fps title was.
Singleplayer wishlist:
- fast gameplay (combat, movement, events and all)
- rageworthy difficulties on nightmare modes
- diverse levels and combat scenarios
- secrets, a lot of them
- traps, even more of them
- no low fps cap
- option to turn off melee animations
- direct weaponbinds
- AI, skill demanding and aggressive
- bosses? Bring those noobs!
- strafejumping, come on, you know it is more fun than doublejumps.

I didn't have any troubles solving those "nonlinear Doom puzzles" with a look on the 2d map during primary school, so I'm wondering what they are talking about.
But if I have to go the same way I came backwards, let enemies await me.

I can life with a few, short and fast-paced cutscenes, when they don't interrupt gameplay too much. Seriously, the paranoid reflex-shot at the mirror was one of the best moments in Doom3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnhoygoTFus
I really enjoyed the disturbing atmosphere and scripted jumpscares in Doom3, why people focus so much on the comic style of Doom1-2?

I don't care if the level architecture makes sense, they can hide important keys in canalisations as much as they want or make fortresses have inviting vip entrances, like in Quake1. The levels just have to be diverse and fun to play with a lot of different combat scenarios, traps and secrets.
People praise Doom1-2 in terms of level design, while Quake1 was way more fun in that regard.

Finally, I don't give a shit about the story explaining why I'm shooting those patties, even if they just didn't pay taxes I will pewpew them onto the walls.

PS: Don't let the 2 donut-slayers anywhere near the development.

GL&HF.

Hey, I loved the atmosphere and looks of Doom 3. Those jumpscares were awesome even though there was like 3 total ;)

And it had cool weapon arsenal which was fun to use against hordes of easy monsters. And this all will propagate to Doom 4 (probably for PC version/higher difficulties, as we didn't really see any hordes in the console crawling videos). And I hope your wish for good AI doesn't come to life. True old-school arcade-ish experience requires dumb monsters but lots of them ;) (Serious Sam!)

Doesn't change the fact Doom 3 had slow and bad movement, was all jerky (60 fps limit + additional fps drops even on today's computers), doors closed behind you without any explanation, and in some cases you had to be part of Half-Life-style cutscenes (non-skippable ones where you can only look around).

Listening to audio logs to get codes got bored after like 5 of those, and those were the "secrets". And two of those require visiting a site that's defunct for ~5 years, another idea that seemed great at the time ;)

So even though it had a really cool horror atmosphere, it wasn't a great sequel to Doom 1/2, the fast arcade shooters, not to mention Quake, the game with crazy movement and overly vertical levels (the authors obviously choked on being the first to have true 3D world, and it was awesome!), all of those allowing and requiring some serious backtracking.

Doom 3 was not great, and Doom 4 will be worse :/

AI depends on perspective:
I really don't enjoy singleplayer games with too stupid AI anymore.
In Doom1-2 you can orbit on a circle around a horde of monsters in the center and they don't even try to shot ahead of your movement or dodge anything, it feels like a clicker game in which you can keep the button pressed. In Quake4 the Stroggs tried to hide behind obstacles with half of their size. I prefer AI/monsters that can't be kited, demand skill to dodge their fire while they try to dodge my fire, don't annoy me with half-assed +back and think attacking in diverse groups will help them.
That is just personal preference of having rather smaller groups (let us say up to 10) of more difficult enemies; but there is also a technical argument against much larger hordes: 5fps slideshow.

Yes, Doom3 was horribly slow in terms of movement, that is why I hope Doom4 will have faster overall gameplay (movement, combat, events and all), more like Quake1, or at least has cvars like cl_timescale, g_speed and bot_thinktime.
Like I said with a few, short, fluently fading and fast-paced cutscenes I can life. But I can't stand trash like Battlefield with half of a minute movies, where I must spam certain buttons, that shit is a clicker game.

Audiologs are acceptable when you can play on during the music, but you are right, the notes in the iPads were annoying, especially when you don't care about the story but just have to search for a code.

Although they were the first to challenge true 3d environment, the level design and variety in Quake1 is outstanding, even for today. After some years of forgetting the maps and secrets, you can really enjoy replaying the game and I get impressed everytime about all the ideas they had 20 years ago.

My concern is that they will focus too much on console-controller-kiddies, that can't remember colored doors and get impressed by mouse dpi, more than gameplay.
I want something like Quake1 (gameplay: speed, level design, combat, traps, secrets, strafejumping, bosses and all that crap) combined with Doom3 (atmosphere: dark gfx, jumpscares and so much gore that the red pixels of my screen melt).

Anyway, will buy it with low expectations so I can't get disappointed.

rage ai will be in doom4

no it look bad. id have bad games

Hm?
Answer is based on a guessed meaning of your comment:
Actually id games from Doom1 up to Quake3 were pretty top-notch in terms of gfxs, technique and gameplay for their time.

id games only look shit because the render frame is still 640x480, then the frame image is stretched to fit you screen resolution which adds the blurring to textures

knock the size up 4x in quake 4 and the textures look bling, but you need the engine to fix the fov for the camera and eye joints

i make the frame 4x as big and upload it; i`ll make it 3x as big then is full HD

to make it look twice as good it probably needs 2048x2048 textures, but still runs at 60fps with render frame size of 1920x1440

http://postimg.org/image/kczxnnoub/
http://postimg.org/image/luldz7tkz/
http://postimg.org/image/drn7nw8zn/
http://postimg.org/image/40pvxxair/

the default textures in quake 4 are 1024x1024

frame render size should be link to your screen resolution like normal engines

Lol, I thought the Portuguese meant the older id titles I mentioned.
I should stop trying to interpret broken english.

alot of people say new id games already look outdated, the graphics arn`t outdated, they are still 10 years ahead of unreal engine, with a render frame size change

or cryengine and homefront the revolution

http://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/..._960.0.jpg

now that's what I call a scar

word



you need a real resolution render frame size for



if you don`t have display port for the extra bandwidth, its too bad

rofl, that unreal engine 4 thing is the sickest shit i've seen in ages. all they need to do is ruin it by adding in some inevitably fake-looking character models with godawful animations

get this if you don`t care for nerds



and it will all be quad SLi virtual reality shiz put them both together, for schools etc

startech better get busy with a 42 port monitor KVM

they have a 8 port HDMI splitter for geography or italian lessions

http://www.startech.com/AV/Splitters/HDMI-Spl...ST128HDMI2

That render is really fucking amazing, but i imagine as soon as someone tries to animate it to speak or smile its gonna be a disaster

you probably have plenty of juice left with quad sli, this would be a stuttering single ti at 4k or 1080p

imagine porn

imagine going to a club and buying a gal a vodka and lemonade and having a 1 night stand every weekend and most other nights

render frame size? lol... what the fuck are you talking about?
Can people seriously stop replying to this plebe?

render frame size, every frame in idtech games are 640x480

that frame is then resampled upto your ingame screen resolution which is where all the blur and crap looking textures come from..... etc etc etc

so you have all these in the ( png )to replace and scan through to see if they are actually todo with screen width and height in doom 3 engine and entire solution

http://s27.postimg.org/bb6qpj1cj/SNAG_0006.png

if you just change the defines in the render.h file, all the fov get twisted and bent up, and everything else wont work correctly because its all being drawn to a different size to the actual render frame is being rendered at

you have to replace all the 640x480 with the defines in the renderSystem.cpp, so you can just change the defines in the renderSystem.cpp and everyting will work for each different platform you are building the engine for, each will have its own power so its worthless them all having the same render size frame

after you have done all that in doom 3 engine, get this texture pack where most textures are 4x the size of the original

http://www.moddb.com/mods/wulfen-texture-pack

lol... seriously dude...
You're not really understanding how this whole 3d projection thing works...

yah, you don`t, you are just fov. and yeaaah its carmack, his the boss of the universe

it says in the code comments in the code, the game is rendered to a virtual screen size of 640x480

search the solution for the defines in the renderSystem.cpp and they will set the actual render frame size, then they are not used else where

all other screen sizes are hardcoded

quake 4 runs at 60fps with ease rendering at full 1080p on a ti 750, which a render buffer bug

doom should have a reall resolution render frame, but you need to fix the hardcoded screen sizes, so nothing will break, and blood splats etc get more detail, with drawstratchedpic() overlays being resamples upto 1080p

all the same shit code is in all sdk`s for idtech4 games, its probably in rage, and will be in doom

you can use the renderSystem defines which set 640x480 anywhere in the sdk, they are included in the precompiled.h

once you have replaced all of the hardcoded 640x480, you can change the render frame size in the renderSystem.cpp, or wrap them in compiler macro`s/defines and have different sizes for each platform

Don't even try.

quit using shitt linux, or get https://code.visualstudio.com/ which has intellisense for linux and you can over over a define and see the toolip if its working

fixing the render frame take hour and a half in VS on windows

if VS code can`t already open sln solution files, it won`t be long until it can, because its opensource, and code editors all suck on linux, so everyone will use code just for intellisense

Yeah man, wtf does ctrl+f do anyway.

seatch current document in VS, or entire solution, then there is something else you have to press to get the fast all search window up, instead of clicking next on each match found

Hang on guys... what's this?

http://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/gaming...-Confirmed

Non-Linear Exploration 'confirmed'

Actual quote is:

"I wouldn't say that we focused on making sure that people got lost, there's a way out to get to that next combat, which is really what the focus of the game is, getting to that next horde of demons that you can take out. But the exploration is really fun, there's a pretty good sense of that non-linear exploration."

My interpretation:

- there's always one way to go from one "section" to another (aka you can't go back to previous section)

- within that section you'll have some side rooms to explore if you want, to create a "sense" (aka illusion) of non-linearity.

And because I'm pessimist when it comes to id Software post Bethesda acquisition, I'm going to bet the closed sections aren't the size of a Doom "map", instead simply being big rooms.

Let's face it, the last id game that actually allowed non-linear exploration and some heavy backtracking was Quake 2. And that was 1998? They won't risk it on consoles.

propably this 'sense of exploration' will be worse than in any classic fps doom 1 included

been reading my posts in here, the crysis guy who took over from carmack can do his first bit of renderer code and make the render frame size bigger

its only these defines in renderSystem.h

// all drawing is done to a 640 x 480 virtual screen size
// and will be automatically scaled to the real resolution
const int SCREEN_WIDTH = 640;
const int SCREEN_HEIGHT = 480;

same defines in doom 3 and quakewars, and probably rage

need to fix and replace all the 640, 480 in the playView.cpp too, with the SCREEN_WIDTH SCREEN_HEIGHT defines

What do you guys think of Doom's SnapMap btw? I think if the engine can handle 20+ demons on the screen at once this could be interesting. Especially if anyone creates non-brownish texture packs and if we are not limited to what consoles can handle qua complexity in architecture and level design.

the engine can always handle more, its down to hardware

quakewars could`nt handle alot of tree`s, every idtech 4 engine can handle a few million extra polys

quake 4 could`nt handle aload of stuff Q43A has

People still reply to p0rt :O

no, they are all too chicken to try any code, doom 3 engine has 40 or so 640, 480 defaults on aload in input for functions instead of using the define

you have to replace them all then fix the fov, to make bigger render frames, and just then change the size of the render frame define, and do some math in ::calcfov in gameLocal.cpp

then download the hi res texture pack

http://www.moddb.com/mods/wulfen-texture-pack

all idtech 4 sdk have defines, but they arn`t used 90% of the time

if you have done everyting right, you will only have to change the renderframe define to update everything

You're one of the strangest people I've ever seen.

well then, can`t resize a 640x480 image to 1080p or 4k without the lanczos resampling adding aload of blur to edges

make the render frame size to actual screen resolution and doom will be used for benchmarks for years to come, and monitors or hardware won`t need to down or upscale each frame

the crap graphic`s in doom is just the render frame size like all other id games since doom 3

4k would be like zooming in on a avatar to make it fit your screen, and id games would have that much blur added, if the render frame size is kept at 640x480

What has that got to do with anything I said?

Thats for you to figure out. Zen masters, such as p0rt, often speak in riddles

Either a long time troll account or someone with a strong form of aspergers.

not exactly a riddle, its something for you todo, you only have to ascii search the whole doom 3 engine for 640, and any 640 with 480 beside, replace with screen and width and height defines

https://github.com/id-Software

its not exactly like adding volumetric lighting etc, other idtech engines have done in the past outside of id

He appointed you his new accolyte. Now go and study the masters of Doom.

Ahahahahahah I don't get him either :-D

if you all did`nt try so hard, you would all understand simple things without needing a massive explination and a whole book on how to do it

"Edited by p0rt at 22:53 GMT, 12 February 2016"

;)

i`ll edit even if i don`t actually edit nothing, it stops forums looking soft, and normally pisses off the mods

You keep telling yourself that ;D that and the voices going on inside your own head.

try it, they get rid of the message or you get banned after a week

You keep telling yourself that ;D that and the voices going on inside your own head.

cos im harder then die hard, my whole life is like a fucking noir movie

48 anadin extra and im ready for action

all means nothing if you have

It's better to eat whole fruits and vegetables rather than blending them.

I will always be 1 step ahead of you padawan (:

eating a single fruit is boring, when you just put all the crap hanging about in your fridge in your drink, its like your on speed

You're* (:

they are on teleshopping enough

they come with a recipe book

And the sword pulls out of p0rt's dismembered torso.

Victory (:

meh, i managed to add 3300 lines of code to player.cpp alone to get Q43A to work

http://s9.postimg.org/4zj5e5alr/SNAG_0008.png

and you can still do this

they should`nt disable multiple instances in doom, its how i debug

shit game (:

pure shit, Q43A make it better then quake live

£900 bar, you can have the source for quake live 4.0

shit game (:

Seems like Romero was the only person in id software that understood what Doom is about. The remaining people there do not.

But then again, alike Doom 3, the game will be praised by reviewers and hated by fans, with the former being what matters to the company.

doom 3 was a remake of the actual story the classic doom`s were suppose to have

doom 4 is a remake of what modders made the classic doom`s became

Romero has made a new map for doom https://twitter.com/romero

yo bro, got $30 to borrow?

its probably on youtube

Hm something still missing from looking real. Perhaps moment of inertia and diffraction

According to my last visit I agree, hell doesn't look real enough to me.

hehe

props for placing thread in the correct forum section.

cannot believe word of stratton, he lie about quake live, so he will lie about any game