52:55 for Quake Live

0:00 for quake

He did a really good job covering doom. I can't wait to come home to watch this

Excellent.

10/10

VERY complete and interesting documentary

professional, detailed, dynamic. can't believe how good this is.

This guy usually talks people out of their erectile dysfunction, glad to see him doing gaming content.

This is so perfect. It's amazing how Quake needed to exist for the world of gaming to exist in its current form today.

Only got to watch 15 mins since i was falling asleep and it made me really jelly i didnt play Quake1 in the 90s, At least i got DOOM1-2 and Half Life under my belt.

Would love to see a Quake1 remake with the same high standards the new DOOM has in SP with the QL MP we love plus more!

Doom SP has high standards? kinda afraid of the hype

I think its exceeded expectations of everyone playing very much like DOOM1-2 while adding the better elements of DOOM 3. Wont hijack thread but it does the franchise justice.

playing very much like DOOM1-2

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If you watch the video, some of the main problems with Quake that made it "not live up to being Doom's successor" were less speed, less monsters, less boss fights.

In 1996, that meant the game wasn't a worthy follow up to Doom. In 2016, same problems times ten, on linear maps with doors constantly closing behind you and everyone goes "wow it's just like Doom!"?

(It does look gorgeous though)

less speed, more monsters, more boss fights, the maps are about as linear as DOOM1-2 were

most of the negative things said are from people who didnt actually buy or play the game, dont be fooled by the agenda, i decided to make my own mind up

Edit: I take it back, looks like there can be small corridor mazes, and maybe even some backtracking allowed? https://youtu.be/Ogy87-6D4jQ?t=14m11s

(But still 1/100 of the monsters you would fight at one time in Doom, and I've seen with my own eyes one-way doors and drops within a level - something unheard of in Doom.)

The "small corridor maze" you see at this timestamp is actually a part of an original Doom map included as a secret. The regular parts of this new Doom's maps aren't as claustrophobic with miniature corridors. They still aren't linear though (well, some are more than others, as can be expected).
As for the backtracking, the only time (with perhaps a handful of exceptions) you can't backtrack is when you're locked into a room so you can't escape until you killed every single demon there.
As for how many monsters you fight simultaneously, it varies wildly. 1, 2, 5, 10... but yeah you'll never have 100 monsters on the screen at the same time.

Yes, everyone is praising new doom sp

Yep, Doom SP is suprisingly good if played on PC with FOV 120:



The problem lies in marketing department of Bethesda.

They were never boasting about ground breaking MP, old doom is still enjoyable today for its outstanding SP which stood the test of time.

Doom 4 was never planned to be the next big e-sport head-turner to flood the market with "fast" (and I use that term loosely) paced FPS titles, nor it would make sense to target a niche with such an aggressive and expensive marketing campaign.

I know you would prefer that doom looks and plays more like an old 1999 classic, but you've got an 1999 FPS classic... on steam no less, for 10 bucks... you've got reflex, which is a decent alternative...

Surely you aren't going to dish thousands of dollars for an audience that struggles to keep ~700 active players and 300 viewers on twitch. Whatever they're doing with MP is better than listening to anyone on ESR and the so called "hardcore" fanbase.

As far as I remember they farmed out MP to another dev studio, so it was never a big focus anyways. eSports is kinda gaining momenum though, so they better catch that wave with a new Quake (5?).

It was surprisingly good, but still second to original. If it had strafe jumping by default, I'd be all over it to be honest.

The SP is amazing; way better than what videos show. Really surprised to see such a great game coming from 2000's id software.

Haven't tried the MP yet. Now I'm searching for the maps' secrets, which made me appreciate the map design even more.

Well it has to be said in part it's because of the great graphics. I vaguely remember id software hired a graphics guy that worked at the Crysis games, and it really shows. Blows Rage out of the water, that while having much better performance. With my 980ti I get over 144 FPS 95% of the time, at ultra/nightmare settings and have yet to fiddle with overclocking and optimizing windows.

fantastic!
somewhere I wished there was more about the e-sport aspect of it all, but I guess that would've dragged on too much.

Also he forgot how to use r_gamma on Quake 3 or something :p

I wish he would have shown proper players after he introduced advanced movement. Pro footage would have refined the whole documentary overall. Otherwise its complete and perfect.

sticky?

Anyone else think Popejo sucks?

Popejo sucks ______ and needs to lay off the _______ and the ________.

Dick, Lube, colostomy bags

You spent a whole day coming up with that? :D

I woke up, looked at replies, and made up three words. Why would I spend a whole day on that?

But you plussed it yesterday :-)

I just feel it was so perfectly chosen a set of three words that you must have deliberated all day ;)

Any thing I dont have time to process I remark as unread and recheck later. Lot of masturbate happen between first see, and, mucho response.

Maybe I had a wet dream and got subliminal answers??!?!?

:)

he is a true rebel

"with nothing to play for and everything to loose"
"PC hardware was evolving rapidly. Every year machines had faster processors"
"polygonal graphics could finally shed their clunky reputation"

yeah, whatever. 1/10

Fagg popePo. Why rape all those little children????!?

Ahoy obviously hasn't tried Militia.

Holy over alliteration batman. This guy blew through half a years hyperbole ration in that one hour alone. He used more color language than he actually did describing the game/engine/gameplay.

Didn't know that TF originated as a Quake mod.
TIL.