This game needs (needed, years ago actually) a web lobby system like TF2Center so even newbs and pros can play organized games with matchmaking in all game modes. This could at least increase the competitive nature somewhat. It's understood that QL will never appeal to mainstream gamers but it can be made more competitive in the underground at least. IRC, and now Discord pickups simply do not cut it anymore and frankly are lazy in this day and age. All the building blocks such as qlstats and minqlx are already in place, and it's kind of a travesty that this does not exist yet. You can see how obsessed people are with ranking and progression since they type !elos every 2 sec on servers, so if the web lobby was in place, I think it would keep these statwhores interested and may bring in newbs if it can track your progress etc. HoQ and leagues may not be coming back, so I think this could be the next best thing in our small community.

imho not 3rd party, 1st party lobby, chat and servers!

But everyone just wanted 200 maps, 1000 stupid mods and 3000 bad servers like in Q3 (nostalgia I assume)

But everyone just wanted 200 maps

as a matter of fact there is nothing to be said against it to bring back the maps what are played in q3 :)

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+ for good taste in music

Why did capickup die? Did they use wdx bot?

Yes..

Capickup died everytime the elo shuffle returned.

Suggestion: all move to Overwatch.

The majority of players and casters already did move to other games. Might as well move to the next big fast paced multiplayer FPS, which happens to also be a fantastic game and much more polished than QL.

For competitive players such as yourself, it's either continuing in a practically dead game competition-wise (and like that fact), or go to CS:GO or to Overwatch. Or, the horror, only real life everyday.


I mean, players do not go back to previous games in mass; therefore there's no going back to the good old days. We have all seen this in previous games.

QL has already reached the state of it being impractical to play in competitions, rendering the game not be enjoyable anymore for many. That side of the game will not go back. If you want something more than pub play, or compete, then move to the games that do (still) have that, such as CS:GO or Overwatch. Well or find that thrill in racing cars or in the stock market, where those like minded people are now (still competing while sitting down), because in QL that thrill cannot be found anymore and is not coming back.

OW is fast paced?

Real life is horror?

:s

I disagree with basically 90% of everything you post, sigh.

Wish I could plus only certain parts of the post.

You can, cut the right part and put it into quote tags, then state your appreciation of that part. If there is a part of the post you don't agree, you can quote it and state your disagreement too.

You're welcome.

Overwatch seems to be the next big promising esport FPS, with prize money, etc. So pros are naturally moving there, even some CSers. Even cooller is practising it now.

not sure if well written troll post or not

I'll give you a hint:

By megaman3

So the solution is moving to a game that you don't like in order to compete in some retarded championships. Yeah no.
Overwatch is shit, anyone with a Quake background playing it doesn't like it, they are just coping with the situation of no other alternative but keep to playing whatever is trendy since Quake is not trendy anymore due the general public's shit-tier taste. It's the kind of people that needs to get a job but will play whatever just to try to get some money without working. Same for all those Youtube whores playing games they don't enjoy but chucking on daily shitty videos to keep the ad revenue up.

I was at dinner with czm the other night and he likes it.

I did not know you two are dating. Good for you guys.

I've played Quake since 2000 and well, OW is really fun. I guess the problem for you, is that you would need friends to get the most enjoyment out of it :D

cooller likes it. Your argument is invalid.

Cooller likes to make money on twitch playing it. If nobody gave a fuck (OW had an underground playerbase like Q3) they wouldn't play it, that's the reality of things here.
You like a game if you would play it even if it's not popular.

He has said he liked the game. But you obviously know he's lying because he's making so much money off of the 100 or so viewers from his twitch right?

To sum up: DM dead while Overwatch is fantastic game that's gonna be huge and have alot of good progamers from different games compete.

thx

I'm russian and I've been casually watching his OW replays in the past weeks. There were several occasions when spectators were asking him why he's transitioning to OW and stuff, and his answer was usually along the lines of playing it solely for future monetary potential. To paraphrase him, he would never touch this game if there were no tournaments with money involved. Also seems like he became quite jaded about gaming in general, being forced to play games he doesn't enjoy solely for money. ("Forced" probably isn't the right word here, but his options now are either doing that or working a dead end job as a car sales manager, which brings ~$700 - 1,000 / mo in Moscow).

That's sad :( Hopefully he'll change his mind once the game and competitive scene start evolving.

Again, someone that played competitive Quake and won important tournaments will never enjoy playing such a game. They are all doing it for the money. They know it's a big downgrade compared to Quake. All FPS that aren't Quake feel like a joke.

Cypher likes it, said so on stream xD Have a nice day :)

I like Overwatch

I just had a few pub QL games and it's still great fun imo.

Sadly the game is boring as fuck and it is in essence a TF clone.

I couldn't get over 3-4 hours during the open beta, because it was quite dull. Didn't even get to play the majority of maps (I think) and at least half of the heroes. Again because I just couldn't make myself care the have any interest.

The price of Overwatch is insane* aswell and it won't go on sale for years or if it does, then it will be 25% max. We all know Blizzards sales practices.

* I know the whole buy to play thing and whatever, but only games with extensive single player content should ever be allowed (buy the buyers) to have prices over 15 euros.

I'm disappointed, bruv.

Well it is interresting that someone finaly made a post about this because i had the exact same feeling since 1+ month.

I don't have the patience to wait 30+mn to get a 1/3 FFA server filled, especialy since a lot are gonna quit midgame anyway.

I think there is a mix of causes :
- game is not free anymore.
- some server owners are acting like total autists. Got perma banned from a ca server "camembert powered" just for callvoting hellsgate 2 times. French guys like gurvan, butthurt to the max. This guy is know for been a giant imbecile as i learned. Some other server owners are also acting very borderlines. Some having rules describing how they want you to play or you get banned. I gues smany got frustrated. I don't play CA often so i don't realy care but what i saw tells me its not going in the right direction, clearly.
- If you watch at server browser there is always some servers filled with stupid settings.
- ...

We are at a point where we add bots to fill a server.

I don't have any solution to be honest but if i have even the slightest i will post it here.

Far well quakers.

e : and autists DDOSing a dead game. Today even FFA servers where DDOS'ed.

Far well indeed.

So quake is dying because public ca serveradmins are annoying. Seems legit

your way of reading seems legit too.

You say there are 4 reasons that quake is dying:

1. Game is paid
2. Server owners "are acting like total autists"
3. Some servers have "stupid settings"
4. DDoS

And you don't see why I'm taking the piss out of you?

Also, I was just thinking really hard for 10 seconds and I came up with "the slightest solution" to this problem; make your own server. Don't act like an autist and don't use stupid settings. Bingo, quake is saved.

i didnt said there was 4 reasons thoose are just 4 that came up while i was sharing my first tought.

I was thinking about setting up some dedicated servers for QL a few months ago since i already run a few for Killing Floor and Left 4 Dead 2, but QL does not have dedicated servers runing on windows, that and the fact that now they are getting DDOS and that this community is half made of people like you = no time to waste for that.

Online communities are not the healtiers but video games communities are the most toxic, and dead video game communities definitly look the most toxic looking at the experience i had with dead games, namely FEAR Combat and QuakeLive which both were free, except QL is not free anymore as you already know.

Cool, go for it. Personally I'm not finding a problem with the number of empty servers to choose between, but the more the merrier.

this community is half made of people like you

Please elaborate :)

Fun in my bunnn sunnn!!!

I can only answer regarding my own experience with quake:

I have been very active for the past 20(!!) years of my life with quake starting from the very beginning. I had some on and off times but I never strayed off to far from playing up to recently.

Why did i completely stop now? I am at the age where I finally have to move on to full cycle work and home life and I barely have time anymore for gaming overall, I also don't look forward to it like I used to . I doubt i will completely ever stop gaming but this certainly means I moved on finally from quake. I imagine this is true in some form for alot of players out there.

As for new blood stopping, its probably due the competetive ones seeing opportunity elsewhere (overwatch maybe, or just non fps).

tldr; an era is finally ending and it has to do with shift of perspective in life for die hard players and shift of focus for newer ones.

Doom is where it's at, I love raging the noobs off the server while leveling up

I am currently 04 prestige level x

Not everyone is like you, i have many buddies that are past 30+ with kids and they still play. I have wife + 2 daughters + work and still play.

You will still have spare time, its just that you may prefer watching movies or playing other games, but its not a problem of time imo.

Of course I have free time... I just dont want to spend it on qlive anymore, not even public casual

Then its not a problem of having more responsabilities, just that you dont want to spend it on qlive, which was my point.

of course it has to do with having more responsibilities. If i did not have those I could have opted to compete in duel or ctf like I used to. With those factoring in i just don't see the point in trying to compete which was my main drive really.

My explanation applies to me alone here like I said back in my first post and all I say is that I bet it applies to others like me (excluding casual only players)

100% same shit for me

Me as well.

:(

yeah, same here :\

Nothing is forever.
RIP Quake Live 2008-2016.
Goodnight sweet prince.

Time for Doom ;)

RIP QL

pfff time for Overwatch. 8)

since d1/2 blizzard is only perfect into make cinematics

Diabol o/

o/ .p

Pley moar instead of tears. )

Some people have grown out of games and some moved to other gamea and there is not a lot that would attract new players to a game that even devs abandoned

just one thing, streamers covered it very well, we can't balme them OpieOP

The problem is a bit more serious than a simple lack of energy or motivation in the community, it's the game itself which has failed and can no longer sustain a playerbase large enough.

Some people may disagree and state that while people are still playing the game, (myself included), it technically hasn't failed yet, but anyone who played QL in 2009 will remember how bright QL's future felt back then... it was Q3 revived, more accessible than ever, everything so centralized and easy to set up, so much potential, so many players, it could only get bigger and better... well that died a slow, stupid and painful death didn't it? (Or still dying, if you're more optimistic). You can't compare what's left of QL today with what we had in 2009.

This topic of course, about how id software, or more specifically how Sponge and Syncerror killed Quake Live, has been discussed to death. It's been discussed so much, that for some time now any shit-talking towards Sponge or Syncerror on ESR would be frowned upon, sighed at and ignored (except the occasional coke and donut joke), but at the end of the day the truth of the matter is that these two incompetent imbeciles ruined any potential QL ever had, one clueless decision at a time, and we as a community have passed from sheer disbelief to a strange mix of impotence and acceptance.

One curious thing I've observed recently. Whenever I'm having a conversation about gaming with 25+yo PC gamers I'm surprised how they're all completely oblivious to Quake Live's existence. They of course all remember Quake 3, and those which are FPS-inclined remember playing Q3 fondly back in the golden days. When I'm trying to tell them I play QL I need to pretend I'm talking about Quake 3 to make a connection there... but this is more zenimax/bethesda's fault I guess. Quake Live was not marketed at all.

Anyway, so much for this... the legacy ends here, and as we, The Last Quakers, get older and more distracted in life, we will play less and less, until there will be nothing left but shitty CA servers full of ragekids and hackers.

Sorry for the pessimistic rant... see you on #tdmpickup :D

pretty much and warpy shit servers.

One curious thing I've observed recently. Whenever I'm having a conversation about gaming with 25+yo PC gamers I'm surprised how they're all completely oblivious to Quake Live's existence. They of course all remember Quake 3, and those which are FPS-inclined remember playing Q3 fondly back in the golden days. When I'm trying to tell them I play QL I need to pretend I'm talking about Quake 3 to make a connection there... but this is more zenimax/bethesda's fault I guess. Quake Live was not marketed at all.

so true. Is like everybody knows q3 and almost none knows ql. ql is like a well kept secret.

So many times have I seen famous people like Notch or Totalbiscuit call QL "Quake 3" in articles or commentary etc. This fucked up the brand of Quake Live since that's how our game is revealed to the masses but all they saw was Quake 3 :(

Remember when Notch challenged Bethesda's Lawyers to a game of quake 3. That was hot news. So many websites reposted it. Imagine if he said Quake Live instead and linked the website lol.

I used to stand up for s & s. I mean I don't wish cancer on them etc.

But last night I actually raged after playing 3 1800+ elo players in pub duel. It sucks for both players. Even the most basic attempt at matchmaking has not been made in steam ql. And as we have all agreed, that's probably what ql needs most of all.

So fuck it, as much as I love quake, I'm trying new games. There is only so much the community can do

Totally true... the gameplay/balance was also more FUN to play back in 2009. Maybe not that balanced, but more fun(different hitbox form and size, different height jump, stronger lg and so on). A lot of players we had then, a lot of playstyles, competition and atleast 4-5 big lans at year.

QuakeLive was absolute shit at the beginning, it was like playing Quake in 1999 with no OSP or anything, the lag was horrible. It took a lot of time until (again) the community forced all those changes.
Meanwhile, most people was still playing CPMA/VQ3 (since by then everyone moved on from OSP already).

It's always the same shit. Id releases a game, and since it's brand new, it takes a lot of time until it gets to OSP/CPMA level, by then the traction of a new product is already lost, and most people will move back to their favorite Quake which is insanely fine tuned through the years thanks to community effort mods.

Triple A companies can't do shit when it comes to getting a product like OSP/CPMA or nQuake if you play QW (I don't know what mods are there for Q2 since never played it), out of the box. Same shit happened with Q4. Out of the box, it was shit, it took again, community effort to make it playable with Q4MAX. By the time Q4MAX was solid enough, people was already bored and thought well, I might as well go back to Q3, this is shit anyway.

There's always this awkward gap of time between the game's release, until a OSP/CPMA type of enhancement is delivered.

Make no mistake, if Q5 ever happens, the same thing will occur, and once again, it will be the community's effort coming up with a OSP/CPMA type of upgrade, because big companies are fucking incompetent in doing that.

Overwatch was already polished in closed beta yo.

Also lmao @ triple A companies. Read a newspaper every now and again fool :)

You are the fool, you already got proved wrong when your know it all ass said how Cooller really enjoyed OW and it wasn't for the money. Please stop answering to me.

Ok, have a nice day xD

Ach, mein friends, you hit the nail on prowerbial heds))

Shit, even that doesn't feel funny anymore. Time flies, eh.

So fucking sad that Quake as a franchise reached this point. So many mistakes made with QL, where they had ALL the cards in their hands. They could have made all the off-shot splinter Q1-Q2-Q3-Q4 mod communities new homes by introducing familiar gamemodes where they could settle in (fragmentation of the player base was always a big problem with Quake games, this was a HUGE chance to fix that!).

Can you imagine all those different people, raised on different mods, united under one banner? That would have been glorious. Those people are playing their mods TO THIS FUCKING DAY. It's mid-2016! But no, fuck them. Have some shitty insta, freeze, some basic gametypes and no viable business plan. Feel like giving us your money yet? No? Oh.

Why QL never got a TF-like gametype? Excessive-like gametype? IF-like gametype? AQ2-like gametype? Urban Terror-like gametype? Whatever the fuck random, popular mod gametype? What were Quake games about if not possibility? Brilliant, creative, endlessly replayable manifestations of imagination spawned by the community? Why not repackage those and market to a new audience? God fucking damnit! Didn't even tweak the sub options to cater to casuals. How fucking stupid do you have to be to leave all this potential untapped?

QUAKE should have been leading the charge in this brave new e-sports world. Instead it has been left behind like a horse with a broken knee, just waiting for the bullet in the head.

Fuck you Bethesda, fuck you Sync and Sponge and whatever intern drones you command/commanded. You ruined one of the greatest IPs ever designed by man. May Shub-niggurath devour your souls and shit them out into a puddle of diseased diarrhea in which you will wallow eternally.

Was streaming some quake tonight, ended up idling in a duel server for 90 minutes waiting for someone to connect... nobody did :'(

Right in the feels :(

moving to OW?

Already have.

U like it? What heroes are your favorite? :)

It has its pros and cons.

One of the fun things in that kind of games is looking for new strategies/compo that no one thought of yet but the big downside is that you can't really have an impact individually. Skill cap isn't that high and coordination is almost everything.
Some people would consider this a pro and I also would but only to an extent. The result is that I have no incentive playing outside the practice games as I don't feel like there is any potential individual progression that would really have an impact on the outcome of my team's matches.

fair point but to be fair, any "ability based team game" will have limitations when it comes to individual impact.

Correct, it's just that this limitation vary between games ~

Sure. Overwatch definitely has potential with regards to individual performance. Many games have been won because one player did something great.

yeah stuff like that, basically :D

Overwatch lacks advanced movement. It will never be that spectacular.

Game has been out 2 days, nobody knows the potential yet. Arguments like that kinda reminds me of how people hated on LoL in the early days calling it a noob friendly Dota. While it is true that Dota has some more advanced mechanics, players like Faker showed everyone how dominant one player could be and that the skill cap was way higher than anyone had initially thought.

Overwatch lacks advanced movement. It will never be that spectacular.

I'm sure people thought the same about Quake when it first came out.

Considering that it's an exploit of the game, that's impossible.

There are exploits in OW as well. For example a good Pharah moves very differently than a regular player.

Funny how the only haters are those that havent played it, that fear about QL getting replaced.

I'm not a hater, and I installed Quakelive in 2014. Those points are moot.

Pharah does not have an exponential skill curve. There won't be an entire community with hundreds or thousands of maps competing to see who is the best at moving around with Pharah.

Then would you also say that it is impossible to tell if exploits will be discovered in overwatch as well? Your "never" seems "premature" to me.

No, but they will be patched and not embraced by the majority of the community, if such a thing even exists on their engine. 99% of movement exploits in any game exist because of the original Quake engine. I challenge you to name one used in any non-Quake based game, patched or not. I can think of maybe two. Keep in mind that an exploit is not a glitch.

did you expect something else its a blizzard game, ok diablo1,2(LoD) starcraft are(was) good games in those days...but since i played fckn diablo 3 every new started session there was any kind of exploits...items with to much dmg output and so on...anyhow

but hey its a secret meta u know so sssshd

I didn't make it very clear that I'm specifically referring to mechanical exploits. Sorry

It still can be advanced to some extent, but just in another dimension.

Consider Tracer for example. You have up to 3 Blinks (short-range telejumps) and Recall (rewind ability), all regenerating. Using telejumps properly can bring you a huge advantage, since you can basically jump circles around your opponent while doing hitscan damage. Rewind returns you back to the point you were a few seconds ago, regenerating your health, which is typically used when the current fight went wrong.

At advanced skill level you start utilizing environment around you while telejumping, confusing the opponent and blinking from one cover to another. More over, you start preplanning your jumps in such a way so that if the next fight goes south, your rewind would bring you in a safe place, not in the middle of another fight.

Mastering those can already be complex enough to occupy one for a year or two.

To an extent is the fault.

Allow me to quote myself:

Pharah does not have an exponential skill curve. There won't be an entire community with hundreds or thousands of maps competing to see who is the best at moving around with Pharah.

Your example is essentially the same as UT, Titanfall, COD:AW, Tribes, NEX, all with little to no mechanical movement.

where's zanz?

playing ctf pubs

because everybody knows that ins alone in a duel server = was speccing a game and fell asleep/went mcdonalds ;)

There is plenty of blame to go around. Sometimes it's the community that fails to do their part. Right now there is a Clan Arena tournament hosted by ebattlegrounds.net wrapping up. They've done a great job having these matches live streamed with casters. They've updated brackets, provided a forum and even write a few match previews along the way. All with their own free time mind you. 23 teams entered which included various pro and high ranked players but I do not see a lot of response to it, at least here anyway, and before you say CA LOL think about how that mentality hurts Quake from this point forward. If it weren't for CA this game would nearly disappear in NA. Sad but true.

You don't keep up. The magic thinking is that if it weren't for CA, all those players would be playing non-CA gametypes instead of not playing at all.

I come from a TDM backround but nowadays I play mostly CA and I enjoy it. TDM is great tho, but a bit tiresome with the 20 min matches without breaks.Also the entry-level is too high so it doesnt make sense to play TDM until you have 500+ hours in CA or extensive fps experience. The major disdain for CA on esreality has hurt the quake community a lot. It IS what has kept quake alive and will continue to be so. We can call CA brainless compared to TDM, but what many want is just the battle-aspect of Quake. And that is captured well in CA. Trolling, cheating or lack of teamplay is found in TDM just as much.

Further the disdain for beginners is another thing that has killed the quake community. Bringing back veteran oldschool players only helps very little, it's about welcoming and perhaps coaching new players. Or the game is dying.

Do more dmg.

Hit something pls.

It's time to move on mane :(

duel isn't super bad. You can certainly find games.

It would have been much better with regular elo tournaments, like the ones DFN and 125fps do. Also, it would had been nice for the tournaments to be round robin, like the ones in chess.com. That way everybody plays a certain amount of games and everybody has a chance to win some maps, if not more and enjoy the game. That format made me play and enjoy chess ffs... chess. Unfortunately, if u haven't really tried it, it is hard to imagine how awesome this format is, for regular tournaments. The few that have pld them in chess.com would know what I am talking about.

Also, it would had been cool if elo started from 800-1000 and not 1500. That way we could easier do newbie cups, like <1000 and with less played games required.

Last but not least, it would be nice to use maps that are actually pld in the tourney map pools. Every map pool, must have at least 2 star, popular maps. I am not talking for pro tourneys here. If you do tourneys for the regular players, then use the maps they play, know and enjoy.

dfn and 125fps are working on the right direction

I don't play team modes anymore and thus, don't know how we could revive them, other than just play them.

that TDM is not active is clear but CA+CTF also is a shame :[]

bet capickup and HoQ would be same active ppl
majority @CA dont know of both systems

€or QL Discord MM

€got me key 4 24.5 also liked TF2 2 some degree ^^ +blizzard games dont get cheaper first year

I have an idea maybe it's silly maybe it's not you will judge,i guess everyone of us has at least one friend who played quake in the past and now is not active.How about organizing an even and message our old ql friends to return for a day and play?If we promote it i think many will correspond and who knows some of them might return in game for good.Even if this fails at least we will enjoy a full day of ql with old friends.

if i remember clearly you disconnected after our 2 duels =D

Ur the reason I may quit quake tbh :D

I'm sure I can remember more than 2..

Remember you're not allowed to talk on voice comms if you're playing a duel Trip!! ;D

Why not accept that veterans leave/left.

Anyway I'm all for some positive action, maybe a draft tournament.

For me fragmovies always give a good impulse.

But things go the way they go, it's not like you can turn the tide.

I will make quake great again.

can't w8

u r actually the next big thing until quakecon

Thanks for realizing this

Too many cheats, rude people and lack of common courtesy and politeness. I love quake but it's hardly enjoyable playing in North America and it's been like this for a number of years now :(

well, i've suggested merging ctfpickup & tdmpickup channels. it's 20 different people playing both anyway... no reason to have separate channels in such a small community anymore.

on the other hand, public ctf has a TON of players, servers are always full and they use kodisha's (i think) balance bot on server and have pickup/matchmaking of their own and don't need irc.

as far as pub tdm goes, afaik it's as dead as it was years ago.

ctfpickup, as unax said, struggles to get 8 and we barely have 5-6 games a day. tdmpickup has kinda better stats, but imo not much from what i can see.

and as far as duel goes, don't know, don't care.

public ctf has a TON of players, servers are always full

? :D

yep. most of the time you can't even connect to any of the omega servers cause they're full and after that gl with getting a slot to play.

edit: by a TON, I meant TON in QL standards aka 30-40 players nonstop :D

I fully agree to this tbh...

As long as the admins are close to brutal and occasionally present.
The lack of actual admin presence which leads to people not fearing admins has lead to the point where I've given up on pickups channels pretty much.

It is understandable though. People really don't care what kind of players show up anymore, as long as someone shows up at all-

streamers gonna stream. there's more money in overwatch than in QL - or anything else, really.

You can do nothing about ql dying, just hope q5 will be better without the usual id/shithesda mistakes

I like how people manage to forget that its summer, every single year

By definition, summer is not before 21st June and the situation we are speaking of started early this year.

"By definition, summer is not before 21st June"

There have been ridiculously hot temperatures in this spring already in Germany, so....there could be flaws in your ALARMING THEORIES

Interesting... In what part of Germany exactly? In Freiburg, traditionally one of the hottest cities in GER during summer there only has been cold and rainy weather up until now.

Northrhine Westphalia

Holy shit, how is this even possible? I lived in Münster for two years, shit was rainy and cold 9 out of 12 months of the year.

I dont really understand why you are lying :D

I'm really not, at least not on purpose, that's how I remember the weather in Münster.

I've been playing at least 4 hrs every night of Doom instead of ql simply because i have yet to encounter a single warper.

It's actually pretty fun too.

public ctf is stronger than ever

rly?

warum?

Nah man, it's nighttime only now, and ONE, sometimes 2 servers. The fact that somehow everyone flocks to that one active server so it always is full doesn't show how active CTF is, it shows how the active players stick together.

CTF used to be played all day on multiple servers. I do appreciate that there is a loyal following to the ctf nights, but that isn't 'stronger than ever'. You could say the remaining players are more organised than ever (because they only play on 2 servers).

p.s. I do like that some pub players make the hop over to #ctfpickup sometime.

its funny that everyone just sits in spec on that same server rather than connecting to another one

Its not stronger than ever for sure, but pub CTF seem stronger than it was 3-4 months ago

Yes and I'm glad, ctf rules.

You should try Reflex! Lot's of fun, interesting new ideas and features!

lol

he worries about the shrank player base and u advice him to move to a much smaller one... fantastic!

Reflex small but grow. QL is not small but shrink. I say to comrade, "see way winds blow?" This is what I am speaking.

90 players daily peak

Join up soon or get left behind!

is more like moving from a somewhat dying, in a super slow motion pace, game to a game that was never even alive (and most probably will never be)

if u see any significant rise to the player numbers of reflex, at any point of time, you are welcome to reply below ;)

Mark your words!

First things first, the OP's problem is that there's too few people in Quake Live, a game that has 1,000 peak players a day. Reflex has 50 peak players. The problem is 20 times larger; an awful advice.

Second, it is false that Reflex is slowly growing. In 2016 it's been constantly losing players, going from 36.6 average players (January 2016) to 30.6 (last thirty days). Reflex is shrinking, the opposite of growing.

Third, in the same period Quake Live lost a lesser percentage of players than Reflex did, therefore Reflex is shrinking at a faster pace than the game in question. QL lost 16,7% of its playerbase from January 2016 to the last thirty days, while Reflex lost 18,1%. Therefore, not only the playerbase problem is already 20 times larger in Reflex, but also it is becoming a bigger problem at a faster rate than in QL.

source: Steamcharts
http://steamcharts.com/app/282440
http://steamcharts.com/app/328070

Man, what a pain in the arse

Maybe, but Reflex is currently 100x more enjoyable with better netcode, better features, and new/better maps.

Leaving CPM rants aside, too bad it is close-sourced, Windows/Steam-only, and locked behind the paywall yet being in early development. (Ideally it should be on GitHub somewhere so interested folks could build it under their *nix, but hell with that, there's not even downloadable *.exe file to try out in Wine.)

Unlike QL..

Reflex's competition is not QL, it's CPM. And it's doing a horrible job at competing.

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"locked behind the paywall"

*cringe*

Perhaps I should not have said paywall; the biggest obstacle for me is that it's on fucking Steam. I don't mind paying for a good game; of a comparable price I recall I bought the first Humble Indie Bundle for around $10 or something (mostly because of World of Goo though), but that gave me every game for three operating systems in all useful formats (including .deb, .rpm, and .tar.gz files for GNU/Linux), DRM-free.

Given all the hype around Reflex here on ESR I might want to try it out and support the developers, but not unless they provide a normal download link.

I actually have no trouble finding duels in Reflex :D

Even added a few really good newer players on steam.

2 more years till new best ultimative arena shooter

THERE u heard it here on ESR first


RICOCHET 2 + HL3 bundle [with crowbar in Collectors Edition]

imho biggest prob is the server browser.
if you need everytime minutes to find a game cause the browser is slow as fuck, you wont attract any new players.
game needs quick join system, nobody wants to wait minutes before playing. ppl want fast action. join and play.
i know there are not so many servers anymore, but there must be a better solution than this shit system.
biggest joke is that you have to wait much longer for the servers with the lower ping, shitty servers with60+ ms are always displayed first.

a serverbrowser outside of the game would also be nice to have

predathors "all seeing eye"- like browser

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=543312745

syncerrors web browser

https://ql.syncore.org/

Please, it's syncore's.
Also, there's one integrated in Steam. View -> Servers

that serverbrowser from the workshop is really good!

Nice writing un4, but Quake is dead for pretty long now. It's true that the situation is more devestating than ever. Atleast I was able to play pickups with Wood for some nights, but I went to the channel after 2 weeks of inactivity and the bot was still dead. Why is that? No one can fix it? Whodares? As hard as I was against the bot back then, when it was a new thing, as hard as I miss it now, because it's a pain in the ass to pick teams from players I don't even know, and spend 35 minutes for a pickup game when I have only one hour to join the arena...

bot is up and running. go play nub

It is fixed since over a week :)

problem with quake is it is many games ...
it is duel, it is ffa, tdm, ctf, freezetag, rocket arena, instant gib ... modes that are very different ... cs is just cs ... guess what overwatch is ... overwatch is just overwatch ... always only one mode and no diversification of the community ... and more team centered games are just more successful in the fps genre for building up a community ... still the feeling of quake, the movement, the physics, the weapons, are still unbeaten ...

Problem with quake is its too hard. Even i didn't enjoy quake during beta as a teen when i was your average decent cod4 player who would top score every now and then on the pro mod servers. The only reason i continued to play was because i was bored of cod and ql was pretty much the only other accessible online free fps that i knew of. I only really started to enjoy it once i came back from a long break and discovered the depth of skill that ql actually had. Nobody is willing to invest 6 months in a game to enjoy it especially in this era of noob friendly games. The only thing i enjoyed back then was instagib which noobs don't play anymore because either everyone is too good or noobs have become pros and moved on to ca/duel etc.

Quake always was too hard, but this only became a problem once people stopped hosting games for their pals themselves (listen servers) or running personal dedicated servers (in your room/office/campus/etc.), and instead everyone moved to the Internet and official public servers which in turn required working matchmaking to peace everyone and allow newcomers to have their fun (ir)regardless of their experience/skill.

Sadly, it was way overdue for QL to solve the private servers and proper matchmaking issues.

cs is just cs

defuse
hostage
gungame
deathmatch
scoutzknivez
awps
zombies
zombie escape
bhop
slide
skill surf
trick surf
minigames
iceskate
deathrun
surf deathmatch
deathmatch rpg
surf rpg
minigames rpg
rpg
some warcraft thing

and I'm probably forgetting about 15 more

i ain't not never 'eard of none of 'em

Forgot about jailbreak as well.

The #1 most populated server in csgo right now is Zombie Escape
#2 and 3 are skill surf
#4 is zombie escape
#6 skill surf
#7 zombie escape

interesting?

Those filthy CS casuals who play those silly modes can barely be called CS'ers to begin with. Since almost everyone from 1.6 have moved to CS:GO, where such silly mods aren't available, you are of course going to see the left over crap, when doing a 1.6 server search.

Are you really going to pretend, that they were ever a major part of the CS scene?

I said CSGO in my post. Those filthy casual modes are carrying the game.

For the sake of it, I just did a 1.6 search. There's 1 CTF server, and 1 Zombie server in the top 15, the rest are de_dust2. 5 of the top10 in Source are Zombies, the other 5 are dust2.

The ONE main skillsurf server in CS:S has 1500 unique connections daily, with 300 of them being brand new players. That's more than Quake has had for a very long time, and the CSGO surf community dwarfs the source community. The world record youtube channel for this server gets 10s of thousands of views per video, sometimes hundreds of thousands, and a few times the front page on reddit. The CSGO pros, such as f0rest, know the best surfers by name.

Are you really going to pretend that they're a small part of the CS scene?

My comment was actually aimed at your comment above, which I really assumed to have been related to 1.6, as you wrote "CS", and not CS:GO.

From what you are offering me about those game modes in CS:GO, I will readdress by asking what the numbers concurrent players on custom servers vs the concurrent number of players in the standard modes are. Standard modes being Classic: Competitive, Classic: Casual, Demolition and Arms Race from what I remember. I will be very surprised if the numbers are not insanely in favor of the conventional game modes.

1500 daily unique connections does not sound impressive if it is supposed to be the main server. As they are not all connected at the same time, it is obviously people who join and play for a short while and then disconnect. It is even worse if 300 of them each day are completely new players, as it would mean 300 people that join once and never return again.

What is your comment about the surf world record's viewer count of 10's of thousands supposed to mean to me? Compared to what? I do the simple YouTube search of "cs go channel", click the first channel on the list, pick a random one week old video and it has 417k views. Your surf video example was supposedly a world record, which should presumably hold a fair bit of notoriety, and this is just some random ass daily video, on a popular channel where they play Classic.

CS just doesn't rustle my jimmies anymore, so I am indifferent to be proven wrong, but you kinda need to present some comparative numbers. The ones you have given me so far are in a bit of a vacuum imo.

Most of those mods are available in all CS releases.

The main server for source is completely crushed by the average server in GO. The reason it's the main server in source is because all of the top level players from GO, TF2, and sometimes 1.6 migrate to this server. This is where all of the top competition is.

I'm sure competitive crushes these modes in CSGO, but I wouldn't be surprised if these modes have completely taken over what's left of CS:S. I can't find any actual matchmaking statistics, but I would be pretty confident in assuming that more people play these modes put together than they play competitive outlets like FACEIT.

If I were to actually be making a point here, it's that diverse community content plays a big role in keeping a game going. Something that Quake has not had for a very long time...

I never advocated CS:Source, and have personally always seen it as a inferior game to 1.6. That people has disbanded it as soon as they could in order to migrate to CS:GO, seems only natural and proper to me.

I would agree that there are probably more that play those custom modes, than FACEIT or the like. That is because the fans of "Classic", are already catered to by default, and what little demand for exterior systems and arrangements like these, is generally populated by a smaller elite of competitive players.

My contestation remains that those mods are not the backbone of the game, but merely the inevitable excess fat of gigantic community. Neither does the health of CS depend on these sub genres.

I present to you the fact that all Zombie players have the abilities of the average COD player when it comes to regular CS skills. I do agree that CS can probably stand on its own legs, but this excess fat is American obese.

u obviously have not played or seen any footage from Overwatch.

Why are you so fixated on defending ow on a quake-centric site with 100 active users? Is this some kind of crusade with end goal being to persuade all quakers to switch to ow? I don't get your motivation here, haven't you got better things to do?

I didn't bring up Overwatch, others did. And I'm defending the game because it is obvious alot of people don't really know the game, yet they are criticizing it.

Tbh a few minutes of streams were enough for me (those were painful to watch already) to conclude that I will never ever touch this game nor I want to see more footages of it. I'm far from being the only one who feel like this - most probably. But everybody is entitled to have their own opinion.

played open beta m8 and I preordered

How do u not know there's more than 1 game mode then? :P

there is only mode, there is maybe also another mode "brawl", I didnt try it, but I know brawl from hearthstone, its only for distraction there, it changes every week and players only play it for the extra pack they get and go on playing in the primary mode ... there is only one primary mode in overwatch, and maybe a distraction mode changing every week, in hearthstone players get a free pack, but there is no such a thing as a free pack in overwatch, so noone is really going to play it, just a weekly changing distraction mode, nothing else

payload and koth bro

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What happened to this game being popular in Europe? It rarely gets over 1k players during peak hours nowadays. It is starting to die in Europe too? ID had their chance almost 2 years ago when they released QL on steam in Sept 2014, but they fucked that up.

People want to play only the same 5 maps.... no matter CTF or CA. It's one of the reasons why QL is dying :(

The Europeans saying their ctf pickups barely get 5 or so games played a day makes me so jealous. Our nactf pickup hasn't had a game in 13 days, and before that one day there was like a week in between games before that.

Learn to play with 100 ping and join us ;-)
If all Americans do that we might actually hit 6 games a day :D

He will prolly get kicked :p

I would, but I don't think people would want to play with someone with 100 ping.

This. To be honest I'd rather see Quake fail entirely than watch from the sidelines as people play modes I don't like or play in active scenes where I can't play.

the solution is more girls playing and more possible sex appeal, an article on vice about a new craze of 'hipster girls being turned on by quake live prowess' will make people flock to the game imo

Whats with 2 500 000 people steamspy claims to own ql? Or these numbers are due only to ql being sold again and again in some sort of bundles to never even run at the end?

Still, we can see that QL has 1,297,175 players total and 25 000 players in the last 2 weeks. For example, Q2 and Q4 had about 3 000 and 2 000 players in the last 2 weeks, while Q1 had 4 000.

So if we compare these numbers, its not THAT bad yet, there's still... room to catastrophe to develop.

But if we divide these 25 000 between the continents that never play together... and between all the 8 mods... h-m-m-mm, well, maybe it is.

Whats with 2 500 000 people steamspy claims to own ql? Or these numbers are due only to ql being sold again and again in some sort of bundles to never even run at the end?

I don't believe QL has ever been bundled. The reason why it has so many owners is because those who got it while it was F2P on Steam still own it.

Yep, it's shit alright, but I will be happy as long as I can get a game or two in a day. Don't have the passion nor the time to play as much as I used to. The game simply isn't what it used to be just for the mere fact that the game-play has gotten stale, for me the same old thing can hold the same interest for only so long as it has so far, I've exhausted that interest. Other popular games seem to evolve in some way over the time either competitively, or game-play wise with the next titles coming out and updates in general, but Quake just seems to be the same thing over and over. It's gotten too dull, maybe for a part of players this is like the perfection and must be forever, but I can say with certainty that the average player isn't so dedicated. You can't expect all players to play the same thing over and over, especially with a lack of a competitive scene and the stale state of the game. Therefore a steady decline of players over the years is perfectly normal without even mentioning the bad management, maintenance, marketing etc. etc. of the game.

We need new titles with money behind it, miracles ain't gonna happen in a decade old forum full of dissatisfied old schoolers.

Quake Live is a dying horse that is being beaten upon, enjoy it while you still can.

for a lot of us the gameplay is/was ~perfect and the interest and evolving came from the competitive scene. once that stopped, there was nothing left. you didnt need the gameplay to change aslong as you had the competitive scene

Do not thing many will be able to relate what you just wrote. But that is the essence.

When I earn millions I'll do what it takes to "Make QuakeLive Great Again". One can dream.

Where is Alexey from the Moscow region ? :D

He does already a very good job by donating so much for 125 fps cups. Much respect for that. Why is it that no billionaire is into QL !? Damn ! Artists had donators in the past to make them live and provide them stuff, somebody should spend some spare millions to improve and promote the best FPS of all time instead of lame modern art with two dog shit on some concrete apple and so on and boring sport cars ^^.

Where's Angelina Skeleton Jolie when you need her, seriously...

GIBS

blame germany

First Hitler and now this...
Will it ever end?

Hitler was fine, gibs missing is not.

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Can gibs and blood save Quake Live????
I'd say YES!

Blame the community.

blame developers for making other games than quake

If you love this game and wish to keep it from becoming what Quakeworld, Quake2 and Quake4 have become then now is the time to act.

Wouldn't Quake Live be even worse off if it fails to sustain enough players to even keep the servers up as the community doesn't have control of the infrastructure?

All ql servers are community ran since november 2015

So the thing still ran by id software is the master server (that community servers report to) including the whole user authorisation/statistics part?

No, that's run by Valve. id doesn't run anything. That was the whole point of the Steam exclusive update. They wanted the game to be able to run by itself without having to host any kind of infrastructure.

"they wanted the game to be able to run by itself without having to host any kind of infrastruture"

that can only mean that it stopped being profitable. If you think about it, you just described q3, which is funny because QL went thru few business models so far for the last 6 years only to come back to a 1999 game. What were they thinking?

Saying it wasn't profitable anymore is quite the leap. I don't think they would have gone through so much development to switch the game to Steam if that was the case. I would have shut it down instead in that case. I think it was profitable but that it was going downhill and they wanted to avoid killing the game completely.

And yes it's kinda like Q3 now and I'm sad QL lost some of the things that distinguished it from Q3. Well at least it gained a new one with the Steam integration.

TRIGGERED

Now that i had some time to think about this topic i think the best would be to make it free again. That and if they want to make money, make the dedicated server option a 1 time paid ticket or add DLC which will never happen because noone is working on QL.

james is an ass

off topic but the last quakecon needs to have 2GD and Joe with a Cooller vs [somebody] grand final.

Every time that happens, cooller loses.

They say if the horse is dead, dismount. Quake Live is not a phoenix. Enjoy it while it lasts and then move on.

horse or phoenix doesnt matter, many "younger" quake players these days are rly oblivious (lazy) about that quake is a game like no other so far, with a lot of liberties in changing graphic/texture visuals movement mechanics net-settings and so on...just keep that in mind !

quake live is dead man =]

just deal wid it my g =]

sit back
roll one up
light that shit
and kick it with the homies
and let the memories of quake roll back through that haze
u know what im sayin?

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Quake Live for me is dead, if there are no matches left to play.
For me personally as a Public CA player i don't have the feeling that the game is dead. In contrary a lot of European CA servers are still crowded. I even see new names(=accounts) every day.

There is no game at this moment that can replace Quake Live. Not Overwatch and not Doom. Having a smaller community has also benefits. Quake is dead if every 1 stops playing. And realize that the ESR community is not the same as the Quake Live community.

For me personally i think view things have to happen, keep in mind that i dont believe it will ever be popular as in 2009 again.

1. Stream/Show the game in Highest graphics Quality only. The gamers these days expect nice graphics and not pro duel players graphics.

2. We need a small Clanbase like ranking system for Quake Live. Combine initiatives like HOQ and others. And where clans can be registered with a match making system.

3. Remove elo numbers as soon as possible. Show only Ranks/Levels. Elo is very useful but the impact of it removes fun for a lot of players. Rank 1 for 1000 - 1100, Rank 2 for 1100 - 1200 elo etc.

4. Just keep playing it :)

People will play through doom, so it'll be quiet for a while, and then they'll come back, maybe a little longer if they care to grind through to open up the multiplayer items, but not much longer, because Quake is just so much better..

Word. There has been a lot more activity in tdmpickup.eu again, now that the bot has been fixed.

How feasible is being a "competitive gamer" today?

Starcraft 2 had its moment. Unfortunately one of the top korean teams got busted for match fixing. I lost all faith in the game after that. Probably fighting games like Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter have a decent competitive scene.

U think any competitive game is legit? Even for just 15k dollars you won't belive what people are going to do for it. People even cheat for 100 euro games.

Especialy sc2. It's a ton of match fixed and cheats at the tournaments which means at the top level.

When you are a sponsor you want your sponsored player to win especialy when you are aready financing the event.

Think about that.

I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt, but you're right, human beings are frequently lousy and incredibly disappointing. How could you cheat something you love? What can money buy? Nothing that really matters. You would think through millions of years of evolution the greedy crooked cunts wouldn't make it.

Overwatch out in 3 days, guys!

I will still be playing QL.

ok hf! i'll be playing a way more fun game doe!

looks proper shit when doom and overwatch tv adverts are on close together, and overwatch is spamming with 10/10 and worlds greatest game etc etc etc from all the "magazines"

OK hf!

thx, u2 :)

will u get elo tho?

There will be ranked, yes :)

Enjoy playing a skillcaped game where your mediocrity isnt so obvious.

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1. Every game has a skill cap
2. me > you, ok?
3. the purpose of games is having fun, yes?
4. gg no re

idgaf about that shit
would never play a Blizz game again or give them even a cent, out of principle tbh.

#NeverForget

I didn't even read half of it and it's so disgusting.

Like it's no surprise that this kind of mentality exists in the gaming market, but to that extent... ugh

Its not a surprise when you know who Robert Kotick is and what are their strategies across the western countries.

And I got a OW advert :D

hahaha

I was watching the telly ye'day and saw commercials for both Doom and OW.

shock horror, people need to earn a living! at least the devs behind overwatch give a shit about their game!

Yea of course they do, I've no problem with that. But Bobby Kotick and co. clearly been running a dishonest business. He admitted to having an addictive personality as a reason for giving up gaming. Well... he's simply been addicted to a different type of game - maximize profit no matter the consequences. But I digress.

Glad to hear they give a shit about their game, still it doesn't appeal to me at all. If it turns out good and ppl enjoy it, that's fine by me. :)

oh yes! im hyped :D

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tbh quake has been dead since 2001, it went downhill in active players since then, its weird how so many people try to figure out what happened when its so easy
MOST PLAYERS GOT BORED
no videogame lasts so much
i find funny people trying to blame something for the lack of players when the answer its so simple, the game is old, and for most people, boring and to difficult

shit game anyway

I just realized ESR is like a bitter female HUEHUEHUEU

Try enjoying life and play Overwatch instead, much better game anyway. I know many of u don't know what this game is, but u talk trash about it anyway. But look I help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmOlk-BFEaI

I dont need to play it to know i dont want to play a flashy skillcaped game, reading winz comment is enough review for me.

Why dont you go to a OW forum to talk nice about it and never enter esr again? I mean quake is so shit and nobody is playing so why dont you GTFO silly trojan.

what did winz say about overwatch?

http://esreality.com/post/2817252/n-a/#pid2817238

WHOA! U pretty emotional bro, calm down. Also lmao @ winz comment enough review for me ;D I don't know if it's better or worse that u are aware of your own ignorance and refuse to inform yourself :P

please close the door behind u, thanks

I'm staying bro, waiting for the dedicated Overwatch forum on this site :D

good play!!

u won't see match content though :P

The reason quake is dying is because I've stopped streaming it.

True story.

R.I.P

play more tdm

QL isn't dying, it's just niche - so nothing to worry about.
Just came across a game called Evolve...
From 9000 to 140 Players (avg) in 15 month.
Peak 27000 to 360.
Thats a dying game imo.

Quake or any other fast fps (look at the current failure that is ut2k16) will stay dead until the hardware improves. Playing on 60Hz monitors with input lags (average joe's rig) ain't gonna cut it, and that's the same shit since LCDs came and booted CRTs out.

Also fast fps need AAA prods (do you realize how fugly QL is ?), and that ain't gonna happen with the market driven by consoles (and their slow ass, heavy on hitscan games) since internet's mass piracy killed the pc some 10+ years ago.

Yup. Piracy really hurt PC gaming. Imagine how bad it would be without Steam.

Average Joe won't feel the difference at all - and has no idea of what input lag is to begin with.

Just a quick example; we tend to have LANs in every 3 weeks or so. Since I'm the only quaker there, we play mostly CS 1.6 and War3 TFT, since 100/-3 @ playing with feet is not fun for anybody, but rather being a waste of time for all of us.

The guy (old friend of mine) who hosts the LANs has 8+ desktop rigs, 2-3 laptops and literally a whole room with parts and half-rigs so you don't have to bring anything if you don't want to - which is a huge convenience.
2-3 years ago, every desktop rig had CRTs, varied in size. I brought my mouse, my pad and headphones (sometimes keyboard as well) and I was content.
However, the host guy switched all the good CRTs with dirt cheap LCDs later on, because it takes up less space on the table and you'll have more room for other things - and a bit more moderate power consumption.

Out of the 15 people who frequent these LANs, everybody is pleased with the change. Stuff just got modernized, no? It's nice, no?
I'm the ONLY ONE who gets to the brink of apocalyptic rage in the first minute of a casual CS game between friends, because of the F***ING RETARDED SHITLOL MEGALAG UNPLAYABLE FAGGET AIDS 12$ ROFLOL LCD panels. And a dozen people watching me without a single idea what might be wrong.
When I ask them if they are not bothered by the 3rd world input lag and horrid screen tearing, they look at me with uncomprehending faces. Their performance is not hindered by a 2$ mouse with a 1$ mousepad, it's perfectly fine for them. They didn't even realize the fps-drops back in the old days, so I'm not exactly surprised that they have absolutely no clue about what I'm saying.

The cirumstances won't change the outcome of the overall session, but I certainly started to lose some extra hair.


tl;dr: People who have at least decent (arena) skills WILL have proper equipment at home anyways - as they do have now 99%.




Also, QL fugly? Please. At max settings it's STILL (and will be) pleasant to the eyes from an aesthetic point of view. Some of the old DeFRaG maps have simply amazing visuals.

You know, good GFX doesn't only mean polygon-count and buffed shiny effects, but colors, saturation and art direction as well - in which latter areas, Q3 / QL still excels.

But I do agree on that HC arena-style play and the corresponding mentality was ruined by the rise of console FPS-gaming.

Overwatch out today

DIE!

I'm going to the Overwatch forums to convince people switching to Quake Live, and when i'm done there, i'm going to the Real Madrid forums to convince those Real hooligans to switch to Barca.

Maybe koOma can help me..

Once you are at it, how about going to the Real Madrid forums and convince them switching to Quake Live

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I made an avatar for all the proud overwatch kids :)



Avatar name: "I play overwatch". Enjoy :D

too late mother, ive already found the thundercat logo

koOma is not amused

are you ever?

When the peasants do their bidding in accordance to their masters expectations, koOma is content. But yes, koOma is never amused, he is merely, not unamused. Now go peel some potatoes, filthy peasant!

unable to have a single match in 3 days in QL...

Is there a refund policy on Overwatch? I might try that if there is refund like Steam has.

don't succumb to the short term trends..

You should play tdmpickup, daniel

Dead horse. Move on!

Can't wait for quackcon though, last ql tourney.

Quake, you had a good run. Time to move on.

QuakeCon has the privilege of hosting the last QL tournament every year.

sigh be me 18. watched quake for over 4 years. started playing 100% committed actively last 2 months because i realized every other modernized e-sport games are shit. Getting good learning very fast and having an exhilarating feeling getting close games or even fragging old players. I regret not having started earlier. I will not play anything else though.

Oh yeah im going to qcon to play the QW2v2TDM. can someone please! from the na west coast/central play with me. who is going to qcon? please come with me ;-; this is my last chance to play my first fps lan and put my name out there!



PS As a young quaker

I hope you guys know that i am in atrocious pain to know that I was born too late to play during the golden age. I was only a little toddler :c

I know that feeling.
*hug*

But is never too late to play some games :) Anyways, i wish luck at QuakeCon's TDM.

DIE!

here is my only advice to ID to keep new players in, i'm personally convinced it's not a detail :
remove this "damage indicator alpha", it's terrible. it's really vivid by default and it will blind you for sure. perfect to get frustrated! it's a nonsense for such a game, you will loose (of course...) but also you will have less fun because you just dont get what's going on. you can't get all the info you need! winning a LG battle with this, really?? that silly option really kills all pleasure if you are not aware you have to turn it off. i remember having a blast when i discovered the game in 2009, and i knew it was the fast pace of the game, the fast reaction time needed that turned me on so much. i can recall i didn't have this stupid thing blinking red on my screen....

I'm not sure if you want to remove the option entirely from the game, or wish to be able to have it turned off, but if that's the case setting cg_damagePlum to an empty string does the job.

QUAKE 5 BRUVS

SYNC ANSWERED BOYS
http://esreality.com/post/2820629/n-a/#pid2820629
q5 is happening

My take is it will be a shitty single player with a half assed multiplayer that feels uninspired (like Q4).

Instead of doing the obvious right move (restarting Q3) they will churn out another generic single player snorefest with brown walls everywhere (Q1) or boring ass tech maps (Q2), with limited 2017 movement to boot, instead of the amazing mixture of aesthetics of Q3.

after several months on Dirty Bomb, I am now back on Quakelive.

OverWatch isn't really my thing, and Dirty Bomb is getting a bit repetitive especially because it's lacking new maps (playing the same 6 maps over and over for several months bores me), and because I feel there aren't that many high skilled players so playing pubs feels like I'm raping people which also gets boring after a while.

At least on quake I get to give some spanking but also get owned real hard myself, the skill level is much higher :)
(having said that I already got banned from 2 FFA servers for being too good lol)

One of them is the Chocolate Starfish and the Bitter Flavored Noobs I guess.

DIE!

rofl RIP newps

Playing duel these days is pretty shitty, you just wait 30-40 mins to play a match which in 90% of the cases goes either 0/20 or 20/0

The new qlstats thingy is garbage because when youre just a random 2000 elo ca player, you will barely find games, despite the ones with the shitty scandi-egos on them who constantly throw a ragefit.

And if you play on low-ranked games (1700-1800 elo) you have to tryhard and literally shit on their quake dreams or otherwise youre going to lose 40+ elo because you had 6k dmg instead of the needed 9-10k dmg according to the system.

It's just a matter of time from now on when QL is going to die, there's clearly nothing which is going to save this game anymore.. now it just feels like ql is digging its own grave faster and faster. I would've denied any "the game is dead" threads a year or two ago.

Most people who still play QL just wont give up on the time they put into gaining all their skill and therefor calling every other game shit out of desperation..

I still play the game every now and then, but it's just way too exhausting to rely on "that" one guy in the server to not quit at 1-2am or otherwise everyone else will just follow up and leave the server, too.

Anyway I wish everyone gl who still has faith in QL, but I've seen quite a bunch of die-hard fans alrdy quit the game, most pros alrdy left for the fact of the lack of competition/money..

Here's a thought: instead of winning duels 20-0 use the handicap command so both you and your opponent have a more enjoyable and fair game; let's create a more welcoming environment for newer players, and that means leaving your ego (and--shock!--elo) at the server's entrance... lol who am i kidding lets keep bashing noobs 40/0 and trash talk them so they leave because i dont need the competition but do need to preserve an imaginary number my elo oh god elo elo elo elo elo hnhngngnggnggggakda my ego cant take it i lost to a fucking noob and lost 40 elo points how will i show how worthy i am to the elo gods now?!??!?!?!?! I WAS ONLY 3000 ELO POINTS AWAY FROM BEING ABLE TO BUY A FERRARI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why wont anyone duel with me?????? WHY ISNT THE COMMUNITY GROWING?!?!?! ID SOFTWARE DO SOMETHING!!!!
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Day 32,356:
im trying to diversify me elo portfolio because the futur of ql doesnt look bright. anyone know of any good elo investor advisor? please i need help how will i survive the elo crash??? my children wont even look me in the eye i feel so worthless my wife left me 2 year ago

uhh...no. If the ELO system subtracts points for not winning with big enough margin or damage output, it is plain wrong and needs to be corrected

Hello everyone. Just to inform you all that we'll be hosting capickup servers shortly.
The bot is nearly ready and the servers are being deployed.
It will be hosted on #tdmpickup channel via the !add ca command.

Rules will be the same as the old #capickup channel:
Bot sets teams and map pickers, 2 maps of 10 rounds are played per pickup. Plain and simple, hope you all enjoy it and hoping it will ignite things a little by getting tdm'ers to play ca and vice versa.

ha.. 2 weeks

I still love Quake. It has given me so much. I have probably spent more than 1,5 years playing this game of my life. That is total hours played!

I pretty much reached all I wanted in Quake. As a person, a caster and a player.

Do not take it wrong, Quake. You are still the best game around but I am not 17 anymore. I am 31 now, and I have other fish to fry.

You will always be in my heart.

Love,

Kevin

So no more duels then?

My computer died the other day. So at the moment it is impossible. I play duel every 3 weeks or so. For like 20 minutes.

: |

Nearing my 40's now... Still pretty as hell, but...
Ain't planning to find a new game in which it takes me 100+ hours of practice to make a bridge to rail kinda jump and 5000 hours to get the feeling I could kick some *ss.
That would be a waste of time.

You know, kids, company to run, neighbour wives bangin' on the door for a cup of sugar 'n stuff... Those things consume time like my car consumes fuel.

So imma stick to QL until even Muckyman's server has died.
Probably even beyond.
On the other hand... a wise man once told me: "Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."

Wait... Wut...

Pokemon Go??? Booyah!

Gtg, bye guys!

You are my favourite user on ESR

company to run .. sure ... yup , if i was a CEO i would spend my time on esr with the nick Toilet_paper. L E G I T

what if he is a major hygiene products distributor in his area?

I highly doubt that his hobby has to do anything with his nick or his financial background.

When esr users speak about rl, 90% of them are ceo and cant play anymore

Everything going according to my plan. Nice.

Quake on the Brink of Doom.

Quickly, get in the time machine!!!!

1) Its the lame ass people that killed this game AGAIN!! END OFF!!!

2) Noobs have always been kicked!

3) Admins are little dictators.

4) Only reason people should be banned from servers is cheating!!

5) !BAN seems the silly option when so many other commands are available.

Admins should be dictators but usually aren't.
People should be banned for a number of reasons, cheating being just on of them, idleing and chat spamming are just as bad.

I'm fairly certain that more people have stopped playing Quakelive due to idlers/afkers or people who don't show up for games they've added to in pickups than anything else.

Only one reason to ban and its cheating!!

With bot commands such as: !mute 4 years and so on ban seems pointless.

I dont know why people scream QL dies.

Every evening I find decent opponents in duel - still get kicked my little butt - as well as finding clanarena matches every time without waiting.

QL is still so much fun and I don't think about quitting this game.