Quite informative. ;)

I forgot to mention that the music is also great.

just listening to the full OST now... it sounds borderline wubby tbh. like it literally is just about to go full wubmode and struggles to restrain itself each time.

It adds a great atmosphere to the visuals imo.

Yep after listening to more of it I have come across the gritty sonic-mayhemesque tunes I was looking for. Still a bit of borderline wubbyness here an there though.

Story in MP? I don't even....

read?

*QLFailingEnglish

donuts did mp!!!

i was looking into the game for a while on twitch and youtube, its an impressive work based on industry in general. i guess it a realistically good game when you factor in the general decline of creativity in high budget games as a whole, but i do feel like its just a short ride of fun kinda like it was with doom 3.

I think it's more like New Order. A very good SP campaign. Adding mod support would make it much bigger imo, because the community would get a rock solid and very good foundation to build upon.

TB just released an in-depth review of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTL8YMQHc4k

Wow, it's weird ro see how somebody else plays this game, especially a "casual" who has a bad aim, but he does say valid points tho, he knows what he is doing. It's a nice review (except the part where he says the MP is "decent", I can't agree with that).

I think he means 'decent' as in general, compared to other multiplayer on the market. It wasn't designed for longetivity and high skill ceiling, it's just good enough to spend a few hours fragging kids online.

You hated D3 and Q4, your opinion is invalid.

Both single player campaign was medicore at best (not to mention the MP of those).
I'm sorry if you never played good games or you missed Quake1 or Doom1 and you have no idea.

Played them all they were all alot of fun.

That will obviously make my "opinion invalid", you and your flashlight having fun with 2-3 slow enemies in a dark room..... OK

Im actualy speedruning Doom 3 in nightmare, its the only way to have a bit of challenge, but there was some ridiculous design decisions :

-Sprint (and not even infinite).
-No flash light on guns.
-Too few monsters.
-Too small levels.

But all that could have been saved with the community we had, IF the game was not 60FPS caped for fucks sake. And if they were faster at releasing the source. Ppl started creating Doom 1 and 2 in idtech 4 engine but the fact that it was so slow and unresponsive compared to classic Doom 1 quickly stoped the desire to develop anymore on this shity idsoftware engine. Tho idtech 5 is even worse in regards to responsiveness and FPS caped too!

What i remember from this game was just Bump Maping with somewhat ugly textures and new real time shadow tech that had high contrasts.

Other than that artists made an amasing job and the atmosphere was there, the monsters, the textures (even tho low res somewhat), the sounds. Except for that shity shotgun.

For me, everything with Doom3 was a big disappointment tbh, especially the movement and the 60fps cap. Perhaps some of the weapons (like the plasma gun) were good, but nothing else.
And it was so easy, I couldn't believe it first, I was seriously thinking that my installation was bugged and the enemies and the difficulty is missing somehow. I obviously picked the hardest level on start as any id fan would do, and think I died like 2 times on my first play-through.... I almost cried:(

Wel play it Like me then, having a paralyzed arm.
Put one arm behind your back and see if its challenging

And still ive player d3 MP online for years with plenty of people the anti crowd seems more Like a hur dur i wanna be cool on ESR

I wouldn't last 2 minutes with one arm only, not even on easy, so you are probably way much better than me like that. I do respect your opinion; I just can't accept that mine is invalid.

nice kek

Man you are more lucky than me, it was just unplayable for me even tho i had well above the recommended specs to play it. I5 6600K 4.6GHz GTX 680 16GB DDR4 win 10 x64... with updated drivers.

I will buy the new nvidia card when its available but for now i went for a refund, thanks to Steam.

I had 40 fps average at the very first room, and not much more after. Even with everything tuned down i had no more than 60-70. I could reach 120+ if i lowered the resolution ratio or whatever this wierd option was for but the game looks worse than 1996 Doom and it still felt very unresponsive compared to Doom 3.

:((

Weird, you have a powerful system and the 680 is definitely capable of 60-80 fps at least. It's the shadows on most systems.

Wait for the Pascal/Polaris cards, even if you don't want those, Maxwell cards will drop in price when they arrive.

were you running it off a hard drive or ssd?

ssd

<3 plasmagun? I fucking hated the plasmagun. It's so damn weak. I only used to get the mastery of all the guns :P

But yeah, the single-player was great in my opinion. How good or bad the story was is irrelevant, worrying about that is focusing on the wrong thing IMO. The gun-play and enemies were amazing. Yeah, they are stupid, but that's why there are so many of them :P

There was definitely not enough of them for me:(, and the plasma was awesome imo, it was perfect for gently stroking their faces:)

I ran out of ammo on the Cyberdemon, realized I had plenty for the micro rockets. He died so quickly :P But the combat shotgun with it's modifiers were maybe my favorite.

I think each ball does 25 dmg, so it's kinda nice if you can feed all into the face, and iirc the heat blast thingy does 600.

The heat blast was fun for jumping into enemies and pushing them away/killing them.

So far I like doom's sp very much.

The reasons are its fluid combat and a very smart decision by id; most of the fights are done in mini multiplayer maps!

I will run into a room and there will be linear jumppads, armor, health, ammo, and maybe a powerup sprewn about and it feels fun fighting and traversing the combat zone at the same time. it is a refreshing way to approach the sp fps genre.

The jumping kinda felt like Metroid Prime (in a good way), and the combat was really nice indeed.

My only concern was (as I said) that the number of enemies were very low for my taste.... one should except hundreds of monsters in hell (if not thousands). The speed and the weapons were there to make it the "best shooter ever", but I'm also happy with this "very good one" version too.

It's sad that the replay ability is not very high for me this way. Perhaps I will start speed running the thing a few years later (if I will be alive:D).

They should really drop the hype circus on many new games, new DOOM included.
This way people will have realistic expectations instead of sky high ones. I played DOOM, SP only. My thoughts? It looks nice in some parts and there was definitely a thought process behind the entire design, it doesn't feel rushed or sloppy in technical terms. It just doesn't carry any blockbuster weight.
And that is the point of what I wrote at the beginning: If the game was hyped less, people would feel less disappointed when it turned out to be a competent and serviceable, but not great shooter.

i didn't play MP. From what I read and see it's a typical run-the-mill MP with no groundbreaking ideas.
Maybe we should accept that the time for genre-defining games is over already. And that there will be no inventions in that regard. You can only do so much with the genre.

Time for long lasting games is largely over and DOOM proves it; would I go back to its SP? Maybe in a few years if I really felt any urge to go thru it. Right now I played it, thought it to be okay and moved on. I was 100% positive that this would be a typical game with typical multiplayer, nothing great. I also pointed that out on the forums. Still many people dreamt about some sort of mystical greatness that this game would be. How it turned out - you can see for yourself.

Like I said, hype was immense and many people bought the game like my friend on whose PC I played the new DOOM. He was so caught up in the hype that he paid full premiere price for it instead of waiting for it to get discounted. And he played the game, didn't say shit (but I could see that he was disappointed) and moved on to other games. Typical reaction of modern-day target of aggressive marketing. The idea calls for hyping the product to the max, selling it and doesn't care at all about what happens later. Every AAA game on the marked is hyped as Second Coming. Some of these really do become second comings (Witcher 3 FTW!), yet many fall short of gamer expectations.

That's a good point. I loved Doom 4 because it was such a big surprise.

I preordered the game and played it on release date, before there was internet hype surrounding the game. At the time the opinion was the complete opposite as today's, with the Internet consensus being that the game wasn't going to be good at all, based on id's latest games, the Halo-like cover and the very much troublesome development of the game, that included five years of work scrapped because the game was fully revamped. That scrapped version was a Call of Duty clone, based on demons invading earth and people joining forces to face them.

I expected another Doom 3, awful in every regard and with gameplay tailored to suit and sell the engine. Instead, I encountered one of the most fun single player FPS games I have ever played. I had the opposite expectations than you did, and loved it because of that.

I played it on release day without the positive hype, when we only knew that they ***** up the MP big time (and indeed, you are lucky that you avoided the MP, keep it that way imo).
If you look at how good game New Order was, and imagine Doom with a story like that, it would have been much better imo, but (as I wrote it down in the OP) this version is also good, even if it lacks some "here and there", I did have great fun with the SP, no regrets.

Some very nice screenies: https://imgur.com/a/5RWJc

Hey, if you don't like it, don't play it

Where was the "don't like it" part, (sorry I missed it)?

"please die" is not exactly high accolades where I come from. What's worse, it is unabalanced, emotional and violent. This (the violent part) seems to slip most people's attention nowadays completely and is seen as normal.

Oh, hi.. Welcome to the Interwebs:) Just a starting advice, don't take everything too seriously here.

And no, I don't play the multiplayer part, because it's shit (period). Even id knows that they shouln't have outsourced it, so now they are taking matters back into their own hands:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-06-09-id-takes-back-control-of-doom-broken-multiplayer-on-pc

Thanks for your ... well ... point butI answered a question you had asked me. I take it a short attention span is also a feature of Interwebbies, which I have to learn to live with.

Do you even realize , that you came to my journal and now you trolling me because you take every word literally what you read on the internet?
You make me sad:(

I didn't "come" to "your" journal, we are both visitors to a site we do not own rights of and where everybody can read what's written.

Straight from the site guide:

"Journals: Personal experiences and opinions not long or focused enough, or suitably formatted for a column."

So, please allow me to go down to your level and use your very own method then: "Hey, if you don't like it, don't read it"