y'all jiggas need nebus

Some big quake names.

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He got out of prison?

He never was in prison.

good to hear that

Oh boy I'm sure glad all those donations from ESR helped him stay away from prison.

You did it guys, props.

yeah lil polish phuq should be picking up the soap right now

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those thugs gotz to get paid! obviously.

snitches get stiches

Does quake fortress wanna go to blizzcon? And of so, how will avek get a visa

probably no.

they will utilize slipgate technology

FeelsBadMan

RIP Guake

truely tons of money! just amazing!

Still more than 20$ Quake cups.

quakecon

Why couldn't they just make the same system like in Dota 2,where people could chip-in towards the prize?!

There doesn't have to be any rewards, but they could sell some overpriced shirts, hats, keychains. They're lazy. Anyhow, it should have been done 10+ years ago.

the game has been out for a day and you complain about money for an online cup?

nah, you got me wrong, not complaining, just giving sarcasmus ;P

IS intercontinental play feasible in ow?

The man asked the very question.

where's strenx?

raging, w/ right hand wrapped around a baguette while eating french fries at Mcdonalds... kinda.

I'm curious to see how this goes and what those player think of competing in ow.

Game isn't very balanced competitively, but goes for both teams and there seems to be a lot of money incoming from Blizzard towards it.
What they think of it is that it's better than sticking with Quake or any other FPS for now :D

It will be atleast for 3-4 years from now... blizzard will put a lot of money into it and as it's from them it will be picked in a lot of lans across the board... there is a reason why most of the quake pros that desire competition are now playing it. I love quake, but I am not blinded from that. :)

Hmmmm, is it any fun to play?

Yes

Very much so

It looks very cartoonish drawn in unattractively terrible style. Any kind of fun would be ruined by look alone.

I can easily imagine ppl saying somenthing on similar lines about quake. And they would be fucking wrong.

hiding in corners and camping there gets rewarded imho.,
thats something not working in quake imho., but what do you expect from casual shoota

lol

time for quake players to show how much more complete they are as g4m€rZ

Yet to happen.

i wonder, Isn't the ping difference for the us counterparts an issue in here?

its an issue, but much less so than in quake

inb4 Weird netcode rage

Has already been plenty of that going on, and it can be frustrating sometimes. They already made it better than 6 months ago aswell, so thats something. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTH2ZPgYujQ )

Also, I think its quite ok if you can have cross atlantic tournaments. And they have added higher tickrate servers possiblity(which makes it hard to play with high ping, its bugged atm though but they are working on it)

yep their explanation is just as silly as my drawings were.
They are making it too difficult on themselves if they are coding stuff per ability though... I hope that they just 'say that' as examples rather than coding it. They should just learn how to code from reading Carmack's Q3 code.

I didn't quite follow what they are doing with projectiles though... But it seemed as though they were saying that projectiles are unlagged?
Which should mean that the guy getting shot will see them appear infront of the opponent? (Or projectiles traveling at different speeds at the start than at the end of their trajectory).
That would make rocketjumping a big no no in OW which is a shame (you can't influence your own movement with weapons nicely unless there is a fair amount of time/margin in there (for instance 'placing a jumppad with a gun')).

And well we all know my opinion about unlagged crap.... But as long as they don't have a strong constant fire gun which has knockback it'll be ok I guess.

Who knows.... I might give it a try someday.

Everything is unlagged, with certain ability and line of sight exceptions. Its pretty weird, but feels pretty ok still.

Using weapons to change your movement does indeed feel weird due to this. However as I said before, it also means the game is playable cross atlantic on high level which is also very nice. I don't know if it outweighs having really solid netcode on semi low ping though. But its clear that in blizzards eyes it certainly does.

Not sure why you bring in low ping there...
If they have programmed it all sanely (which I'm fairly sure they can) then the netcode influence will fade away really quickly when the pings drop.
Writing netcode such that high ping remains playable doesn't mean that low ping should turn to shit. High ping vs low ping can turn into shit for either player (depending on the choices you make), but low ping vs low ping should be unaffected. (only certain buffers would influence that but it should be less than 25ms delay)

Is there any good example(a game) of what you are advocating?

I guess the closest thing we've got is QL because what I am advocating is already in QL but it's set up wrong. More generally however what I'm advocating is mainly that unlagged with a weapon like the LG is always a bad idea.
(where the LG means a strong constant damage instant hit weapon, which in QL even has knockback which makes it even worse. The main points however is the powerful constant instnat hit damage.)

If Overwatch doesn't have these kind of weapons then obviously you can chose different kinds of trade-offs.

You can even write a game which contains more gradual movement changes (like for instance most racing games have) for which you can develop insanely great feeling netcode (as prediction gets easier to do with gradual changes, so you can trust prediction much more than in games like quake).

What I wanted was an interpolation on the client of extrapolated states (either by the server or by the client, both should be ok... The server might be more reliable overall but has some downsides to it as well, it's a complex trade-off).
Like a smoothed out QL which has timenudge= -(ping/2 + x). Where x depends on framerate + tickrate of the server (typically a number within the 10 - 20ms range).
And QL actually can do this... It's like... 10 minutes of coding for a patch and you're pretty much there. Or you can go onto a low ping server, set the values yourself and play against another swede who does the same.

Isn't fatality also in still here?

I've seen him play overwatch streaming on twitch

Yep, he does.

any links to brackets?
wouldn't mind just checking out the Quake teams and players

http://www.gosugamers.net/overwatch/tournamen...ch/bracket

http://www.gosugamers.net/overwatch/teams/14821-anox-ow

ty sir!

what happened to rapha's team?

I just noticed they're in the bracket of the 10000$ LAN tournament happening this weekend: http://esportsarena.com/events/2016/May/overwatch.html

Maybe they decided to skip this to take part in that. I hope that's the case.

nice

Is Av3k mafu or mooofoooand is cooller on sg-1 with av3k?

av3k is mofooo and played in anox.
cooller got kicked out of anox for unknown reasons.

probably cause he was shit.

bite your tongue infidel!

team name is anox.ow

I know the team name of quake fortress but both Cooller and Av3k are not on that team.

http://www.gosugamers.net/overwatch/tournamen...vs-anox-ow

realluy?

Av3kql and coollerz

I don't understand how you can miss that.

They didnt play in the last game (watch on twitch replay, last 30 mins), casters said cooller (and avek i guess) is no longer in that team

did avekkk and cooller get in a quarrel again?

av3k was playing in it, he was "mooofooo".

we will have a great quakecon this year

Blizzcon where its at now huehuehue

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overwatch is more like team fortress 2 than cs:go or dirty bomb.

It kinda is like db, but mostly it looks like tf2. Its nothing like cs tho

TF2x5+DOTA type abilities

DOTA type abilities


Oh WOWOWOW



na, more like zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

so tilted :D

Actually it's exactly the same as Dirty Bomb.

You'd know if you had tried either.

I have, and you are wrong.

Overwatch is basically Dirtybomb which in a nutshell is Return to Castle Wolfenstein / Enemy Territory in regards to team based objectives but more colourful, fresh looking and with added abilities aka "classes"

Fun to play, horse shit to watch imho, unless they have amazing casters, really really amazing casters.

Its only like Dirty Bomb insofar as the classes / objective focus.

The actual gameplay is really different. I find overwatch to be really slow and chokepoint based whereas Dirty Bomb is much more focused on gunplay with faster movement.

Overwatch hasn't grabbed me at all so far, only a few hours play admittedly but thats usually enough for a game to get me interested. The movement speed is snail paced, it often takes ages to walk to where the action is (unless you have that 1 character that creates a portal) and then the action is more often than not like those CA games on DM20 where one team is on bridge and the other is in the LG room and everyone just spams the doorways until someone goes Leeroy Jenkins are you're forced to engage. Then its over.

I think its probably just not for me. :/

Sounds like World of Tanks gameplay.
Daym D:

Quake Fortress, I love the name. OW leaves me cold though. Looks childish and the whole structure of lots of different characters with "strong personalities" is just a TF2 knock-off.

Yeah, childish and plastic.

But look big.

Its like we hired Blizzard to lure several millions into competitive fps-genre, so we would molest and baptize some serious % of them into Q5 in 2018 (title and date here set approximately).

What if Q5 will be released on December 2019, at Q3's 20th anniversary?
*Keanu Reeves face*

Plot Twist: Q5 is a reboot of Q3

It's just so much fun. I want to start a team and play these cups :D

Let's make scandi team xD

OW is fun but the 20 tick rate servers are jut meh. :(

They're 60.

Only in custom games doesnt it?

The "20 tickrate" which people are complaining about is actually updaterate, and afaik it was adjusted back to 60 after the open beta.

Isn't overwatch played 6v6 or am i missing something here?

The news only mentions the remarkable names in the teams.

Kinda disrespectful if u ask me

Agreed. Who the hell is Shadowburn and why the hell I am forced to read his name?

But I didn't.

Seems like admins don't care about proper news format anymore (or someone got payed to get this post majored on ESR so easily)

1) Where is tornament link so esr readers can get more information about upcoming tornament?
2) Every team lineup inside [ hide][/ hide] code misses [ q][/ q]
3) Quake Fortress' lineup has extra ":" at the beggining
4) [time] code should be used instead of "5 PM EST/23:00 CET"
5) "Hey all," begging is redundant, since it is a news post, not a personal blog.
6) Inline image / logo in the right corner must be 180x120 pixels maximum

Also WHAT SHOULD NEWS POSTS LOOK LIKE? article should help

It's been a while since I posted here

...aaand sudden newspost for no reason at all, which magically gets majored without any corrections?

OW is clearly bringing back old fps players as well as bringing in new ones ;d

oh wow

how about you step up and do it ?

Well, I might as well watch some of it.
So far I don't really know what's going on in the game. Is there a proper guide somewhere?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_lrilSEqOE

this is quite basic but not bad

thanks

Beware Gladius! It's a trap!

Cooller and Cypher on same team? :o

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gl to all quakers.... hope you make a lot of money

If somebody will care to highlight noticable games, THX a lot big time in advance, matey.

Coz just cba to watch 2 full days of OW.

let the spam begin

Shame it doesn't have vq3 movement. It could've been a popular game. Maybe next time, Blizzard, maybe next time...

And those cartoon graphics make it look so childish, at least give us picmip?????

You made me lol

I've never played it but spectator-wise it's on CA level. There is just no story to it, ppl running around and shooting. I guess that's the problem with watching round-based games in general. Maybe it will get better when casters catch up with meta game, somehow I doubt it though.

It's awful to watch and i vomit everytime i see it on stream. Then i played open beta and was shocked how smooth, fun, addicting it was. Still hate it on streams tho.

It's not likely to get better. It's not a spectator friendly game, way too much stuff going on at one time. It is fun to play, but to watch it is pretty uhhhhh.

Quakers win -> game dead in 2 month
-> Multi million dollar failure

* Quakers miserably lose -> game dead in 2 month -> Multi million dollar failure

I watching some grand finals for almost 3 hours.

Why the 6 player format? It's sometimes so incomprehensible that the casters themselves go free cam to make sense of what the fuck is going on. Reminds me of LoL teamfights, often there's just some blur of effects and spam while some tool caster is shouting every ability in the game in effort to provide context to seemingly nonsensical gameplay. Talking about spam, it's just ridiculous, it seems most of the game revolves around timed pushes around choke points that get spammed down, there are maps which are better in this regard, but for most of the time it's that blunt. The strategy of teams seem to revolve mostly around "let's take position, we jump in 3, 2, 1 we do this shit" (LoL fights), then when everyone has spammed their abilities the caster notices the one player with the last ultimate being used "WOW look at that bastion tank mode, 4 kills! 5 kills!" It's kind of.. meh.

There are also good things about the game, like the synergy of classes and an evolving meta with counter picking and so on, the gameplay is adaptive and dynamic in that regard.

Overall, it's not bad enough to die in 2 months, and entertaining enough for something to happen, but I somehow doubt the longevity of the game.

it's that blunt.

Hit tha(t) blunt =]<o~~~

haha! :)

dm7²

:)

results? any quakers make the dream happen? or they all got rekt by TF2 players

latter

closed beta players had a 1 year headstart and this was NA.. only dahang and id played in different teams afaik.. there's an eu tourney on the weekend.

I was kinda looking forward to this when the thread got posted, to see how Quakers will perform but then I opened the stream and gave up after 2 minutes. Just can't see the appeal.

I thought it was 6v6

hah i was watching lirik yesterday and he is a good FPS player ... but some dude was fukcing him up like mad... lirk was like, wtf dude is that guy a quake player!? :) ... that made me feel fuzzy warm inside. <3<3<3

lirik... good fps player... same sentence

For the popular twitch streamer demographic, yeah hes not bad

did i say amazin' buddy, no i didnt, learn to think.

whats the story behind cooller being kicked? or maybe cooller kicked the whole team? we aint care shit bout OW, just give us our bloody good-old drama!

who wonned????

wankers have, as usual... :D

GRAND FINAL VOD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ0FpfoKG-I

OW is a great game, super well designed and fun to play with mates.

that said, i dont think it will have lasting appeal when it has genre fundamentals that are so weak and lifeless. im talking about the combat and movement for the most part. they are so lifeless.

Just like Activision noobed up CS to make the retard "accessibility" version called COD, Activision makes the retard version of TF2 for the masses.

I used to think TF2 was the noobed up version of TF Classic but obviously it wasn't retarded enough.

Overwatch obviously copied some elements from TF2 but it plays very different since its more of a Moba in first person perspective rather than a shooter with moba elements

Great game need more gamemods

did Still Here actualy play? i cant spot them in the brackets for anythin about the event online