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I think they are doing the right thing by letting Noctis etc beta test it and give feedback on the competitive aspect of the game.

imo they would be best going with the competitive beta tournament option to get coverage on various portals, as soon as the young'uns think they can be good at the game and make money from it, they'll get interested

Seriously, i've seen as much of the game as everyone else on esr, the cgi trailer...

hooked !

Cool story bro.

Or is it that the part you saw that everyone else has seen is the only part you have seen that you can comment on. That way no one can really prove whether you've seen more than you say you saw, or if you only saw what you said you seen. A cunning ruse sir.

Did they at least contact you?

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What aren't the opinions that you haven't formed on the parts of the game that you haven't seen?

Noctis already broke QL with his advice

And why is 'noctis' opinion to be hallowed? Kindly remind everyone why this guy, who from a distance, appears to be nothing more than an eSports gaming-obsessed manchild who doesn't want to work a real job, should have his feedback taken as some sort of sacrosanct pronouncement on all things gaming? Not flamebait, honest question. Is he an eternal "in crowd" beta tester or something? Seems like questionable earning of reputation from the fazz, noctis, stermy crew who to my knowledge have no coding or game design experience and have never won majors but must be involved in all stages of every FPS development.

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at least one thing OW, CSGO, DOTA have in common is an active community forum side such as reddit.

maybe if game would be good and community will keep discussions and all the hype / art / whatsoever going on a common ground, player base will remain active and large throughout the time

I wonder if the game will benefit if we, ppl of esr, for the love of upcoming QC will be posting on reddit.com/r/QuakeChampions or some other unusual for us site

p.s. although, number of ppl who browse esr is so insignificant lol forget what I've said

p.p.s. plusforward ftw

this. ... esr started smell zhuish.

I'd be up for just creating content for the game for promotional purposes and whatever.

Blizzard literally invested millions upon millions into promoting and marketing Overwatch, more than any previous title, including giant statues on hollywood boulevard and other parts of the world, a special edition of clueless gamer on conan o brien featuring game of thrones stars as guests, themed lambos and other vehicles serving as taxis with full cosplay drivers at PAX convention, taco bell promotions, cross-promotion offers with other Blizzard games, the avalanche of conventional tv/internet adverts, the short movies, the comics, the aforementioned tournaments, not to mention all the memes and Tracer Butt controversy which are safe to say were happily fueled in part by Blizz "covert-ops" themselves.

You think id software are gonna step up their game when literally 90% of ex-Q3 players around the planet don't even know Quake Live exists? It's gonna take this and this x10.

x100 even.

Yeah but it isn't like they haven't done it, right?
Super bowl edition
bus 1/bus 2
also plushes and cards etc.

They have oportunities and they have taken them with doom so the same venues are open. Plus there is something called QuakeCon so I wouldn't be that dishearted.
Thing is OW was rather polished looking when in closed beta. Maybe someone has some infromation about how long it was in development which would explain that move about having it stream ready and most features just clicking in.

holly shit, they done big :))

what the actual fuck :>

It's probably for the better that they don't know QL exists lol

edit: meant QL not Q3

True

Promo, activations, ambient, virals is "how".

First of all, we need to know "what" are we going to say about QC.

Defining what's the main thing about QC we should look at other competitors in FPS genre - mainly OW, because CSGO will be significantly outdated for the time of QC release. So, we're the people. What's the OW is telling us? Simply that they're the future of FPS ("The fight for tomorrow starts now", et cetera). What they're telling us with their game-design and all their promo activities? That OW is literally for everyone. An ultrafriendly ultramodern ultrasimple game where everybody will find their fucking ultrafun. FUN+SIMPLICITY are the core elements.

Knowing all that about the main competitor and having heard something about Quake legacy what would be the best message about QC? We're not gonna beat them in their field, a too simple QC wont be a quake at all and frankly saying we just aint gonna have Blizzard's ad budget. We need to focus on our strengths. What's the current image of Quake? It is a dark, hardcore, "mature" legendary shooter (yeah-yeah, outdated and without players). Quakers do have sort of reputation, like, every streamer would mention if some of the OW players are an ex-quake pros. "Look how cypher shoots, thats because he's a quake pro, look how rapha moves, thats because he's a quake pro, etc". So we have "LEGENDARY" + "HARDCORE" here (not just in terms of difficulty, but "hardcore" in the sense of brutal too, like, not for all these kiddo from kindergarden that love cartoonish style).

So maybe what we need to say is that Quake Champions are the ultimate acrobatics of killing. That's how we gonna play the "Champions" card. The most difficult and awarding FPS at the market by far. Like, maybe the Formula 1 is comparing to other races. And we must use quake's dark, underground, brutal spirit.

TLDR: Promote QC as the ultimate Fight Club. Dark, extreme, almost forbidden (and hairy) underground gore competition.

"How"? Well, why would we do all the work for bethesda guys?)
But, generaly, campaigns with such a message are build on a secret societies, copromotion with everything brutal. Badass viral ads. And some hardcore promo which will generate a lots of buzz. Just shitstorming, a promo where the winner would have to frag every one of the finalists to win something real and big, yet, game-universe connected, dunno, some yacht named "Base" lol. Or the most brutal real life tourney, where the actual players from all the main FPS games would compete in strike-ball and only one one-eyed quaker will survive and take it all hahah.

Really liked the breakdown! I think you have it right about what is behind each of games mentioned. Focusing it is what they would need to do.

OW had a company with a great reputation promoting/representing the game.

Bethesda stinks of mediocratie

Coming from what QL turned out to be I sort of get what you are talking about. If you read above answer and this one you'll see that Bethesdas/ids/zenimax promotion could be targeted as they please, maybe they even miss it completely, dumb it down and try and attract players that would be mistargeted.

Thing is, with quake, as well as with OW currently positive "marketing" was done through community effort.
I'm not saying BLizzard didn't do it's job well above what Beth/id did up until now (regarding Quake)