So is Doom a good time for a "classical Doom" and Quake connoisseur?

It's on sale on steam, but still 36 euros. I'm thinking about considering it

classic doom = no, classic doom is a bag of shit
quake = depends how you look at it when your not on a server full of n00bz

seeing there is no server browser or favorites or custom dedicated server etc etc etc, there is a good chance you will always be on a server full of n00bz

match matching sucks too, when you just feel like kicking some ass without trying to hard

Did you just call classic doom a bag of shit? *:C

No I mean how does the "new fancy" 2016 Doom compare to the old fast paced id shooters

Have you tried militia?

I most certainly have

classic doom was good 20 years ago, its a bag of shit in reality of today

it depends on which doom, pc originals or windows pc and console ports

its just doom if you have windows or console ports, abit of action that gets sidetracked with exploring stuff even if you don't go out the way to explore anything

classic doom will always be amazing in my nostalgia clouded mind, idgaf for graphics in old games...still with modern engines it still kicks your ass to phobos and back again

so back to my main question, if you would not mind :> how does it compare? does it get repetitive? too slow? too graphicsy polished and forgot gameplay, WHAT? :)

have'nt played for a few weeks so probably

xD

update is live and 2.5GB download

use the god command and see if you game goes into dev mode and you have to restart

the patch is still full of shit and crashes on start up, alt+enter still does'nt work, and all your snapmaps are corrupt

there's no other game that feels like Doom and/or has as many enemies on screen at the the same time. also speed, iconic monsters, music.

Ye, still better than 99% fps of the last years

*of all time

"classic doom = no, classic doom is a bag of shit"

BAN!

he got a £6000 pc to play doom

So you would destroy the head of a demon with one punch? How retarded is this? Not growing much since you were 6, aren't you? And why are the bodies disappear "puf!" into thin air? Then those blue bubbles?
Just to act amazed at the resolution and repetitive animations while the game would clearly not exhaust the capacity of modern hardware not even in the slightest (hello well praised ageia PhysX who's potential died once Nvidia acquired this, and bye bye the much lauded in 2000 next gen AI created with dedicated AI cards), being satisfied with this joke of a game is the very definition of being stupid.

I take comfort in thinking about how ugly would this game look once games would run at 40K or 400K resolutions and would use real time rendering and illumination.

well yeah, the whole point in full body armour is the armour being a exo skeleton



another 100 years, and it will what military will be like, unless a good small lightweight power source is found, then everything will be made out of graphite or graphene

If we are to talk about the future and future militaristic then this is just scratching the surface. What is really putting me to despair is how stupid people of the XXI century are, especially when they think that the WWII was the last world war or that the 3rd world war would be the last -well, it could certainly be with this mentality, so how they tend to praise peace and not get ready for war. I am convinced that mankind would know in the next 1,000 years another 20 big scale wars (world wars is just an euphemism anyway, because politics does not embrace exclusivity of all the people on Earth, the percent of people directly -yes, directly- involved in WW II was probably less than 1% of the total population of the globe those years) and the biggest risk is the pacifists who would refuse us to build iron steel towns with 5 m thick walls all around big towns and carbon steel citadels, but instead would encourage demographic and economic growth, which is the recipe for disaster. Even from pure mathematical calculations if you pack up more and more people into smaller and smaller space (urbanization), while technological advances goes up, and thus destructive capacities would go up as well, then it is only a matter till the whole thing would go crumbling down and mankind would suffer immense losses.

you can still punch a demon through the face with the added power of 5x6 ton hydraulics

that should do the job.

btw i like the new -2nd dlc maps... they are quite detailed.

would'nt know, have'nt bothered with the game since june

gonna parrot what everyone else has been saying for months

it's got a fucking brilliant singleplayer but uhhh... the multiplayer?? a paddling pool has more depth, and less bullshit too.

"You are wrong." © Tim Willits

For single player, it's well worth even the original price. Great single player! And id has taken over the multi player development, so hopefully it will be better than "meh" in a while :P

so....doom34a militia arriving anytime soon?

beyond hyped!

QC34a + null nuke will blow doom34a out of the water

fuck no, aint modding fuck all ever gain, aint doing fuck all for the world every again

UPDATE 4

https://bethesda.net/en/article/3fCk2WbLdeKyU...ic-modules

Campaign

Added Arcade Mode for all players

Multiplayer

Added the new FFA mode called Bloodrush
Added the new team-based, Prowler vs. Marine mode, Possession
Region selection in MP, allowing folks to matchmaker based on their preference
Entitlements are now shared at the lobby level instead of by invite, so you won't need to send an invite every match to players who do not own the DLC content
General matchmaking improvements to Multiplayer
Added new voting system in playlists for multiplayer modes and maps

SnapMap

New DOOM Classic Campaign

Feature Pack Campaign mission including new classic DOOM levels

Classic DOOM Content

New classic DOOM modules, props, interactable items, lifts, pickups, sounds, classic player deaths and music

Community Support

Community Curation system enabling new maps to be published to be reviewed and recommended by the community
Community HUB overhaul to make finding your favorite content easier
SnapFeed support allowing users to subscribe to authors, players and maps to get up to the minute details on new content

Custom Environment Creation

Detailed hotspot and tiling textured blocking volumes can be used to create custom environments
Decal Tool to add blood, numbers, demonic symbols, grime, corrosion, etc. to your maps
Massive update of new Hell and UAC environment props
New container object models

Additional Logic Tools

Copy content and logic from one map to Paste into another
Created multi-level campaign using Next Map Logic
Added Hazard and FX as a category of Spawners
Set color input added for all volumes and hazards
Snap Grid Offsets added to editor settings to allow authors to offset in XYZ coordinate space
POI can now be set on spawner items
Authors can get precise camera position by previewing the camera view within the editor
Added set environment and fade to camera properties
Authors can set their editor view to ignore current module environment settings
Cylinder volumes can be used as shootable triggers
Added support for silent (no VO announcements) lockdowns
No longer need to set a DOOM ID to post to map leaderboards

Additional DOOM Single Player Consistency

Additional DOOM weapon upgrades from Campaign – mastery versions of the HAR and Combat Shotgun
Campaign-styled communication HUD elements
Editable interactable GUI
Additional FX and Hazards
Added Rune Tablet interactable
Publish maps with Campaign intro screen and lobby
Additional equipment pickup items
Add Static keycard and weapons props
Added setting to disable hit feedback sounds
Added setting to disable damage indicators
Added setting to disable AI teleport FX
Added Berserk powerup

More Stuff

Additional Armor and Weapon Customization Skins
Revenant Player Demon
Usable volumes will now work in the front of doors
Blocking Volumes (previously called Player Blocking Volumes) now default to static and visible when placed
AI can now be affected by Blocking Volumes
Some props can have their FX toggled on and off

fucking game is 70GB on your drive and takes 1hr 30min for steam to backup the files

3 blu-rays with 22000MB custom size steam backups, disc 3 is 19GB

by the time they finish with dlc... you'll need a ssd just for this game.
there's another update at the end of the mnth i think... or early november.

seagate barracuda and https://www.oo-software.com/en/products/oodefrag

keeps it smooth like a SSD

Megatextures were a mistake.

yesteday i bought a gtx 1070 and doom 4. Loving it! Doom 4 is great :)

hehe yep, that 1070 power is awesome playing doom on native 2k res.

Nice. I bought an RX 480 a few weeks back and although not as powerful as your 1070 Doom 4 runs so smooth with everything on ultra when using Vulkan and it looks amazing!

Ye i also run vulkan. 120 - 200 fps :D
I think the RX 480 is much better value for money that a gtx 1070 for doom. AMD cards work great with vulkan and doom.

as i heared vulkan benefits are with low end users, do you get significant boost in fps with your card?

The RX 480 benefits from Vulkan massively (and DX12) there's around a 30% improvement over OpenGL in Doom 4. It's a shame there isn't more games using it at the moment. Apparently it equates to about 50% faster than the GTX 1060 in Vulkan.
However if you look at benchmarks of new DX12 titles like Deus Ex the RX 480 can nearly match the 1070 under DX12.

I probably wouldn't call the RX 480 low end though as it's the 4th fastest card available (after 1070/1080/Titan) - or if you were talking about the 460/470 then I'm not sure how much they benefit from it.

nice, by low end i meant older gfx cars then can run vulcan.

i noticed fps drops on the new doom maps from 130 to 90, but i havent tryed vulcan yet, i wonder if there will be any difference.

vulkan can use all cpu cores, openGL and < dx 12 can only use 2 cpu cores

its the main part of the close to metal low level api of them both

fix for next update, idtech never resetting your desktop video brightness/gamma settings when you exit a any game since quake 4/rage/doom

it grind on the nerves, you have to restart or log off everytime you want to go back into a game, so you just don't bother them, its easier

later noob...

Attached Misc File: 109649-GammaReset.exe (1KB)

damn right, be a man and set your own settings instead of letting a application set them, your settings won't be restorted after you exit a idtech game

every other game works

Anyone know any real dope snapmaps that are comparable to the Single Player?

mine, the only map i have bothered making



made a few others but they got stuck in dev mode and never bothered with anymore

162mb update just appeared on steam

In Sir David Attenborough voice:

"A wild update appeared, from the steamy depths of a mountain and with it, ... it brought a nice surprise of client and server patches. Even though the updates are scares in these lands and are far, far in between, ... they effect both humans and animals of all kind.

With the steam they bring vital sugars and supplements from the depths of doom. These sugars grow on tops of a special mushroom and evaporates due to ambient heat and moister. These mushroom will only grow once a year, from the rotting corpses of a cocademons eyeball."

... Sir Attenborough sits down and marvel up-close the rotten eyeball of the cocademon and the lens zooms in on tho the tiny evaporation proces of a small mushroom that is slowly vaping the vital sugars out, Sir Attenborough says: "This, ... this is what the local residents are all waiting for whole year around."