RIP Quake
looks absolutely awful.

the basics of quake are still there, we can still go bridge

Not jumping away from meet but even bitch blinking and backwarding
Gr8 game kickstart when?

why does it matter how it looks? the game is pretty hard to judge until you play it with picmip 5

looks like unreal tournament, well nothing bad with that.

but special character features should be removed.

Only two clips have shown air control.

Good, it's an optional extra for the cpma players.

no clips show strafejumping tho

cus the players on the demo arent the greatest strafers ever.

lets hope

Ye they looked uncapable of strafejumping

Only certain champion(s) have air control. At least that's what Willits said in one of the interviews.

i doubt that lol, that would be broken

I guess 'vql' movement will be the basic one, and cpm/pql air control (maybe with slightly better strafejump speed gain) will be reserved for these characters?

I doubt the difference would be something like ut character vs cpm character, even syncerror isn't this stupid

This is what I'm saying, one character with vql against one with pql. That's completely broken and shouldn't happen.

but it will happen. prepare your anus :D http://www.pcgamer.com/id-software-doesnt-kno...e-to-play/

Seems so, how aids.

I'm putting all my eggs in the Diabotical basket (c) thundeR

Not gonna lie, that bridge2rail was impressive :DDD

? wtf u bitchis on, looks alright

youre just desperate man ;D it looks shit so far

no im not, could care less if its going 2 be shit, this is my honest opinion and it looks good

pošteno

doom 2.0

Like the maps eye is dope >_<

actually looks better then i thought its going to b also campgrounds confirmed

Sure got pentagram and pillar style from dm6

Noctis lying on +fw :-P. Not showing gameplay haha @_@

PENTAGRAM

You lied to me mang, u said attendee only!

So so sry damn aussie noctis tricked me and many more :-(

Haha, that sneaky guy. I'm actually damn excited now man!

Me 2 but first 18.10 BF 1 and 20.8 open beta >_<

Diabotical and QC 2017 (hope eggbot shooter starts end of November closed beta)

Ye, i'll be starting off with bf1 first too. Need a new graphics card for these games though :P

what the fuck, where is my overwatch clone in quake universe ?

sounds ALOT and looks a little like doom (4)

Cant wait till someone shows picture by picture explanations and theories

Think killsen got time thanks 2 faze ^^

I really hope that the CPM movement I saw wasn't just limited to one champion!

Because that champion is going to be OP as hell if you're up against others that are limited to regular movement / strafing.

Every single weapon model looks terrible.

Every single weapon model looks "unreal"

LoL kinda

I wonder if they will adjust those for tournaments.

Placeholders?

Hope will still allow drawgun 0 = No weapon models

No because this would create an unfair advantage

i fucking hate that you cant turn off gun in OW. its terrible.

How's it unfair when everyone can do it?

The same thing I wanna know

they have it in qw, q2,q3,q4,ql the new DOOM, I don't really see why you'd assume they'd definitely not let you do this.

on that note, it looked like there were two guns that either shoot very similarly, or are two different skins of the same gun (MG): http://imgur.com/a/WZeLo possible cosmetics?

in b4 heavy machinegun

My guess is theyre gonna take the hmg model and use it for regular mg and then the blue gun is the new hmg

Speedbot: @sponge are you able to confirm if every champion can strafe jump?
sponge: @Speedbot both strafe jump and air control variants were shown but prob can't talk about any further than that

This gameplay looks like q3 timedemo. Obviously it's possible to go really fast if you can strafe. Looks like a proper Quake to me. Just not sure if a "proper Quake" is what we need atm.

Why is the eye chained? Where is it gonna go?

They chained it because the grunting was too obnoxious.

Orbs wife or granny

even worse if mother in law :P

It looks more metal that way.

I remember the old days where a small orb running around was kicking my ass. I can't even think what the big one would do. Let it chained.

anxious eye represents whole ESR community
watching every picture and gameplay video like its last bit of water in a very dry fucked up arena shooter desert <3

>_<

cv map eye2eye
f2

i think it doesnt look too bad. theres some fast movement in there.

im not a fan of these high fidelity player and weapon models tho, they dont leave much up to the imagination. not sure how to explain it really. quake 1,2 and 3 models all had this kind of charm, because they didnt really look realistic at all, without being to comic-like.

the anarki model in the trailer looks like a high polygon punk, and doesnt have much charm at all. i wish they'd take a look at the ranger drawing from the quake live menu background and try to imitate that style for all models, maybe tuning down the comicness a bit.

hyper realistic models dont suite the game imo, im guessing thats one of the reasons some people say it looks like ut,,, both player and weapon models

This. I didn't see no cute cuddly Keels either. :((

0:58 noctis is that you?

more likely it's carnage ;)

Doesn't look too bad actually. Fast movement <3

Already has blood red und green :-))

looks quite good tbh

hopefully you won't need a super-ultra-high-end computer to run it at 150fps. Hopefully it will be possible to tweak the GFX a lot, at least like reflex, and at best like ql.

predict same performance as doom4

predict it will run smoother than d00m + hope for vulcan <3

and i bet wont be as ultra high graphic as D00m is on ultra
in the end more than half will try 2 picmip the fuck out of it :<

Forget about it. No more unfair advantage of tweaking gfx. U can either play max out or don't play at all cos every player has to have the same chances

And the timers for maximum fair being

Also the quake is going to force only one type of mouse and keyboard for equal chances. Not to mention the screen size and type.

id just scrap it and sack who ever came up with the idea.

looks like UT2K4

I thought exactly the same. Just something about the visuals of certain maps in the video makes me immediately think UT2k4.

Looks nice, but open wide maps = bad gameplay. Im about qc_de_aztec
Also guns model design not cool. Its mechanistic, but shitty. More powerfull this type nice styles

Unreal Championship 3.

How fucking ironic is this: bethsoft bought idsoft to produce a new UT game.

Seriously. The setting, weapons, jungle, teleporter disc... its all screaming UT'99 remake. I thought this was supposed to be a "back to the roots" Quake, dark and gothic. What the fuck.

I also love the "Pure skill" bit showing an item timer.

Item timers is a good feature in a casual game mode.

Do you really think that if they were to make a tdm mode as the competitive mode they'd keep the item timers ? Well, ok, they might. But I like to think not.

:D

I hope they will, provided the timer only shows up if you witnessed the pickup.

It might already be the case: http://i.imgur.com/DkgXhNc.png

But I could be interpreting the symbols wrong.

It's really hard to tell with just that. But I wouldn't be surprised if they did it. It seems to me like the best possible option and the idea has been around for years despite never being implemented.

jungle not emo or goth 4 ya? :<

hell wouldn't even care if they got normal cities and western maps BUT i also want grim dark fucked up q3 maps :)

MOD TOOLS <3 { i hope }
+steam workshop

hope vs brain

Pure speed
Pure skill
Pure shit

so ut-ish, rl from ow pharah, lg model is horrible

what are those shitty balls which the players are throwing?
also the clutter and weapon models are horrible too

Poke Ball - is a type of item that used for catching and storing Pokémon.

quake hits a new low

Flash bangs

ESR at it's finest!
They have just seen a small portion of the game, didn't play the actual game but already cry like as if they know the game already
Got to love it

exactly, bunch of sad old farts still crying about QW, so far what we seen game doesnt look much different than Q3, just with diffrent wpn models and better gfx...

Still we are the first that gonna play it and the last still hanging after it dies in a year

Gee romantic

thanks 2 sponge + syncerror there will always be quakelive if QC sux :()

€ narcos is a damn fine series ~_~

if you're right that's the last quake there'll be

Or the first of new series that only shares the legendary name. In my opinion there is no room for quake now. Its too unforgiving frustrating and simply hard. Just look at what kids play now. I always though cs is the easiest dumb game there can be but now we have ow and when i first saw it i couldnt believe anyone would ever want to waste time on this shit but yeah people do not want no challenge and complexity now. Games are easy brain washers thats all.

That's true, i remember back in the early 2000s cs was an equivalent to what cod is nowadays. A shooter for kids. Today i actually watch a lot of pro cs and it's really good. Things change.

you have never seen south african gorilla retch either but I bet you would find it no better than south african gorilla shit. It is not that this game is good or bad for the masses, our sell out pros played shootmania and now overwatch. It is just no self respecting quake player will touch because it is unreal tournament in a better coat. You don't know what quake is about if your stomach dosent turns seeing this trailer.

LOL

I wish we all could get holocausted because we judge something we see.
#onlygodcanjudgeme
#youdontknowmesofuckof
#anonsucksdick

I really like that they took some cues from the people who did the CS:GO art direction and made everything washed out and hard to see since visual acuity is a skill too

first trailer looked promising artisticaly, this just looks like every other "space" shooter.. the graphics are nothing special, gibs and all the explosions and fx just look like randomly thrown together shiny stuff... no unique style that would stand out, no uniformity, rainbow flashy splashy...

this is gonna end up like quake 4 and et quake wars

its angerfists secret project, i matched claim you to well to the doom trailer



be wanting my royalties

it a bad boy, for europe tv

http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=https%3A%2F...ame=AlGore

Basically ESR is like high school where making the most edgy comments earns you applaus. Only that we are 25+ers and there are no chicks.

edgy comment about edgy comments :O

asyyy is the EDGELORD

edgier than K1llsen's red armor timing

so meta

Is there actual confirmation that classic Quake, as in, game modes without the champions, exists in Quake Champions?

Champions sounds a lot like heroes to me, so I doubt it

I've seen people claiming champion disparities can be turned off but no source at all. Well in any case nothing stops players from agreeing to play with the same champion so no meta gets involved in the match. Who knows, maybe there will be some way to enforce that instead.

I've got low expectations for this... looks like UT3 with OW-style classes

Maybe the classic mode will be good (yeah..)

- Galena drops totems that heal her and team mates
- Sorlag spits acid for areal denial
- Clutch is a big slow robot with a lot of health that can activate a shield

These are not classes people, its nothing like ow. It has that core feel of quake.

huehuehuehue

I am losing interest in this game quickly.

Puh herp derp :-/

"We don't have classes, we have champions." LMAO, reminded me of this from Coming to America.

I've done a complete 180 from how I was feeling about the game the last few days. Have you seen the QC leaked footage? Looks pretty Quake'esque to me. Dare I say it, I think they've actually made it better! never ever thought i'd say that but I can't fucking wait for chimpions.

Still waiting to see how tanky, slow characters work. Btw whining is giving feedback on info you have :)

tim you bastard

Idealy abilities will add more depth to game.

it is like OW, although i always missed and i always wondered how would the game play with all weapons. now i can try it and even better, i can try it with actuall quake :)

We will have to wait and see

If we waited to see your cut, im sure we can wait for something less appealing...lol

looooooool

KappaPride

They r working on it since 2013
Was first considered just as dlc for QL

I think it looks really good! Awesome sounds, good graphics and art. They focus on Esport. I like everything I hear. Its something new and fresh. If people want to play oldschool quake, just play QL or Q3. I really like what I see from Quake Champions!

what is the starting weapon? that little yellow machine gun?

we need a single topic for all these fucking quake champs leaks and stuff. i ain't gonna browse the quakecon topic to see wendel setting up and evil crying in the background.

Do Bethesda and id really think that this is how to make Quake a popular FPS?

Are they that scared of just going with the roots of the game?

Why do they feel the need to keep up with the "modern" times? Like...that isn't being true to being a game designer. It's basically copying or continuing what's currently going on.

If they want to be real, then make something actually "new".

I think it has to do with them not wanting to lose the millions of dollars they are investing in this game.

You mean going back to making it a QL update :)

How are they going to make millions of dollars with a shitty domination game mode that no one gives a fuck about?

If indeed no one cares about it then I think they will change it or switch the focus on another mode. You don't get to decided if people care about it or not, though. It's not Domination, by the way. It's TDM with some kind of frag multipliers given for controlling zones.

Hope starting gun is SG. not easy hitscan 50% mg :(

Looks really UTish, the models, the maps, everything.

No doube Saber (or whatever its spelled) is full of UT fans.

I like the mortal kombat esque announcer, yeah Filo, prolly will play it! :D

:) you say u like it, but i dont feel you like it. :PPPP

I like the whole idea of a new quake game with arena style and some newish gimmicks, but the ut feel is weird.

Its weird i know, ... quake and fancy gfx is something quakers just cant compute... we have been left in the dark or rather we chose to be left in the dark, cuz in the light you cant see the screen properly, everything glowing and shit wtf, turn the blinds down honey cant see shitz cuz of the sun.

...kkkk, were was i, aha, yes, UT gfx wasn't bad, it is just we associate it with UT movement which is i agree utter blasphemy to the movement, but we have to separate:
UT movment - bad
QC movment - good
UT gfx - good
QL gfx - meeeh
QC gfx - good

Agreed.

There are too few abilities and differences among the champions for them to dictate the game-play by themselves. Those abilities will have an impact for sure, but it will not be anywhere close to OW. From what I've pieced together from the leaked footage, those are not what I would call classes that we know so far. The core game-play seems to revolve around advanced movement, weapon switching, air-control, there's still timing items, much of what we know Quake is.

So all of you unintelligent, nonsensical, pessimistic, filthy non-believers can burn in hell!

I think it looks fine. The Champions thing, whether it's colossal garbage remains to be seen. Maybe we'll be allowed to disable abilities?

Never know.

I stalked an interesting interview with tox from 2010.

Here's a quote:

"Quake Live is mostly about timing and controlling the items like RA, MEGA, YA. But if you look at Quake 4, it was just as important to control the weapons of your opponent as it was to take armors and megas. Since the weapon respawn is 5 seconds in Quake Live, it’s impossible to keep your opponent from getting the weapons he wants after a period of time. You can be successful for a while, but in Quake 4 it could be better to give your opponent an RA if you could take the lightning gun or rail or rocket. Because then you would win the next fight without any trouble at all. But in Quake Live you are pretty much forced to take all the fights at all armors and megas. And since Quake Live doesn’t have as much dodging involved as Quake 4 did, you almost have to get more armor and health than your opponent if you wanna win the next fight. Sure you can win certain battles if you position yourself a bit better, but in general you pretty much have to be equal or have more to win a fight in Quake Live.

It’s just another way of playing a game, and you do what you have to do to get better at the game you are playing. But that’s kinda the guideline for Quake Live, only control armor and health and get the best position you can for the next fight.".

I think that it would be a really great idea to have weapon spawning in QC slower than in QL. Definetly would add some depth into the game and would provoce more fights on the map, not only at the powerups/armors/MH but around the weapons too.

I never understood why they decided to go with 5 seconds weapon respawn in QL as opposed to 15.

Newb friendly basically. There was a point, I think while it was still closed beta, where T4 actually still had 15sec for weapon respawn (not just RG). Some baby started crying on the forums about it and they changed it.

Quakelive has had lots of subtle nerfs to make it more friendly to newer players.

Comparing what I can think of off the top of my head:

- Weapon respawn from 15 > 5
- Stacking ammo. So if you pick up RL you get 10, pick up RL again you get another 10. In Q3 it would cap it at 10 and increment by 1 above every time you picked up a new weapon e.g. 10 > 11 > 12 etc.
- Railgun 100 damage to 80
- LG 8 damage to 7 (and earlier in QL it was 6 at one point)
- Faster rockets, less splash
- Increased step height so you don't miss jumps like bridge to rail as often
- Autohop strafe jumping
- Respawn timers
- Loadouts
- Teammate indicators

I personally prefer Q3 gameplay to QL, it lets creative and agressive players have more ability to make plays and controlling weapons + powerups adds another layer to dueling.

The main gameplay 'improvement' I would say that QL has over Q3 is the spawn system. Spawning away from your opponent, if the map is designed properly so that it can't be abused, is much better than losing 3-4 lucky spawn frags in a row like you did in Q3. That and you could argue that the rail damage to 80 and lower LG damage was needed because of better internet connections, better netcode and mice/mousepads since the early 2000's when Q3 was released.

Say whatever you want, but I always considered spawn raping to be one of the things that made Quake "Quake".

It's unfortunate, most of these things could've been solved with different rule sets for newbies, and pros.

15 minutes to 10 minutes duels has quite an impact too. In QL matches tend to play out the same because players are forced to engage, and engage fast.

Plus the crippling effect of the LG was removed. Can't aimwhore as hard as in Q3.

Yeah you can beast mode in Q3 more than QL, but you could argue that QL is more new player friendly because it takes a lot more to kill someone at full 200/200 stack.

In Q3 even if you had full stack, if you made a stupid move you would get punished and killed, in QL you can make more mistakes and not get punished as hard because rail 80 damage LG 7. You get hit with 2 rails in a row in QL in full control? No problem, just make sure you continue item control and damage opponent enough so they don't go for next RA / Mega. If you got hit with 2 rails in Q3 that was your whole stack gone and you had less than 100 hp and no armour.

The 15 minutes instead of 10 was needed in Q3 because of real comeback potential, even 10-15 frags difference you can still come back in Q3.

The default lg damage was 7 for most of QL's history. It's now 6 but some servers set it back to 7.

It's horrible and not funny to watch.

That's why they should keep it this way, instead of players waiting 10 seconds for a weapon and killing the epicness of a dynamic duel.

Not to mention awful damage of QW or unbalanced LG and Rail in previous Quake, jesus.

I would go for 10 sec weapon spawn. Whaddya guys think?

https://www.finder.com.au/quake-champions-not-on-id-tech-6
Saber Interactive has a sketchy history, driven by a console-first mentality

rip

Id why wouldn't you use idtech 6 ffs!

idk software*

: /

That's why the picture is not exactly as AAA as Doom's.

idk why no id tech6, doom MP works quite nice, but is frame dependent? .., idk.

I hope they will put in the effort in bringing the same quality maps as they did for doom. millions of trimmings and displaced / dislodged bricks, rocks, metal and random dirt, garbage and fucking washed up debris and different stuff and materials.

I have a strange suspicion that using saber instead of id tech6 could be somehow connected with the story of how QC seen the light. First it was planned to be only Quakelive 2.0 and maybe they hired a side company because ID werent interested themself much in the project. But after huge success of Doom 4 they suddenly changed their mind and decided to make a next big tittle out of it. So, having huge part of engine already done by saber they have to keep it, why waste all the money invested.

wasting money is not such a big issue since bethesda canceled their first doom project., but i would understand that id wouldnt want to go that road again.

maybe its not about money, maybe they just like it.

Same guy who fucked up Quake 4, just a friendly reminder everybody. Of all people to resign so far, why not this guy? cause he made edge and some mediorcre doom maps in the 90s?

I'm looking forward to trying this without any graphical effects of textures

basicly raping your eyes with picmip 16, you cheap dog.

I donno, it's pretty hard to get raped by absence of something... so it's basically the complete opposite, you filthy gfx slut.

i am, mmmmmmmmmmm, i take it real slow.

... but tbh depth perception for me is worse with picmip, especially if you wanna rocket masta blasta at medium to long ranges.

Yeah, I prefer picmip 5, not 16 :)

... even worse.










... whore. :DDD

Vomit looking walls are Quake as fuck.

while the gfx looks okayish, the gameplay seems totally unsatisfying