man i hope you're kidding, try to avoid the pills + redbull thing

i actually don't take more xanax than my prescription from my psychiatrist :)

it's just that when it's the time to get 1 or 2 more pills, i take it/them, but drink monsters energy at the same time :)

currently i'm at 3 pills of xanax a day, from my prescription.

i don't take more than 3/day, spread over the day

I am not into sugar nor am I into caffeine and pill popping.

Marijuana.

If you really want energy, go outside and start training. Run, sprint, pull-ups, et cetera. Do SOMETHING active everyday and you'll eventually develop a body that is used to providing explosive energy. You can't replace that kind of energy with drugs and even if you can it won't be healthy.

I know you'll ignore this advice and that's fine. Good luck.

I don't recommend using stimulants to game harder and longer. The body and mind needs rest for reasons. Just recently a twitch streamer died from sleep exhaustion and cigarette smoking. I sometimes drink coffee but only normal amounts. Water is probably best and most reliable refreshment. I can't imagine alcohol having any performance enhancing properties and through experience I think it also sucks but some people claim small amounts of alcohol help with focus or possibly lower anxiety.

Back in the days, I hated these stuff. Bad taste, not exactly healthy or cheap. And since caffeine has the opposite effect on me than on most people, it's not even a stimulant. I can drink a mug of coffee right before I go to bed and I sleep soundly, maybe even better than without coffee.

Then I started drinking it, daily, because whatever. Tried about 90 different types so far and there's like 5-6 which is good - in the matter of taste. So now I occasionally buy one from that 5-6 type, but certainly not for enhancing my performance.

End of cool story.

caffeine usually makes me sleep as well, at least when i drink coffee.

but try 3L at once of redbull/monster (find those without sugar in it) i can assure you you'll feel the adrenaline rush :)

Rather the urge to puke. : D

Those without sugar (the zero stuff) is even more vomit-inducing. Such a bad, overly sweet taste.


But really, dude, don't do that to yourself. Drinking those amounts is VERY unhealthy.

you got X amount of wattage during a day , if you are boosting for 3 hours, then rest of the day will suffer.

.. =p

Energy drinks are nice if you do NEED a boost, do YOU need a boost?
Example :
I have been up all night because dog had bad stomach and shit everywhere , now i need to go to work and only had 2 hours of sleep .
I need a boost to get going .

Your one of those that have more energy then 99%, but complain about low energy , right ? Basing your "optimal" level from the effects of your drugs. You cant base reality on abnormality(pills)

We all live with constant issue with energy , differene is that we dont take drugs , we dont complain, we became adults, we shut up and do what we need to do .

ask Fizzle <o~

I only drink water and coffee, really.

Did u drug dealing with av3k?

yup

ground zero of my empire was me & av3k selling weed @ lan 2002

If you really want to improve your performance then I would start playing clean, and after 1-2 hours (or whenever you feel like you need a boost), get your coffee or monster drink.

With 3 liters, long-term you will put yourself in a state where you can only perform on your former normal level if you are on stimulants. No game improvement, only negative side effects for your health. Plus you will lose that nice feeling of getting a boost if you overdo it for too long.

Are 3L of energy drinks not giving you the shakes and fucking up your aim? I'm surprised your aim is that good, considering!

yeah i tend to shake quite a lot at the beginning, but after like 45min/1 hour i feel perfect :)

All natty aim here

It actually depends on your tolerance. Some people work well with energy drinks while some get too fidgety when consuming them. Also, I highly advise you not to turn to pills to improve gaming performance.

huge mugs of instant coffee, double strength. no coffee, no win.

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i hate the change in heartrate that energy drinks bring, i can only bring myself to play when i am around 60bpm at all times.

have fun fucking your heart

i'm heartless

Energy drinks cause your hands to shake, and using Xanax to play ql is just retarded lol.

i don't use xanax to play ql actually

i take it because it's in my prescription, no more no less

it's only monster energy 3L that i take ON TOP of xanax, zyprexa, zoloft

;)

Why do you need all that medication? Our ancestors did not need help from big pharma.

You might want to look at what happened to those who would have benefited from the help though.

What if I told you anxiety and sad feelings are natural and completely normal human states?

def. this and you can have control over feelings and mind state, even when you think you don't, you can influence your mind state by making simple and effective decisions and with it train you brains.

Sure you can be on Xanax but the question is, do you want to fix your issue long term? The easiest way is to be on drugs, but what will long term exposure do to your organs and body?

You might wanna look up what non- or self-medicated schizos did.

And what evidence is there that antidepressants actually prevent harm to self or others?

You should be able to find clinical trials that provide evidence for the efficacy of any antidepressant that hits the market.

Yes. Billionaires who develop and push pills on kids should always be trusted.

No, that is why there are extremely strict guidelines for a new medication before it may enter the market.

If you want to blame someone, blame the doctors who prescribe the pills instead of exploring other, more expensive therapy options. Or blame the parents, who are fine with it.

And why does it seems that every second person one talks to is a conspiracy theorist nowadays? Soon everyone will believe in chemtrails too. Idiocracy here we come.

well at least placebo pills are getting more and more popular in the farm. industry.

I like the study of placebo where now there are findings that, even when knowing that you are on placebo, it still works - selfhealing and no side effects, wha wha what? :)))

Keep drinking 3L of that shit every day and you'll be dead before quake champions comes out.

Just think about that.

I had a job where we warehoused Monster drinks. Friend of mine was up to three a day until he started throwing up blood due to a bleeding ulcer.

I'm baffled. THREE LITERS?

Stop. You don't need more than one can a day.. This is considered abuse imo. Xanax leaves people more open to doing things they normally wouldn't. I think you should STOP taking Xanax if you can't handle not being able to game properly or at the level you enjoy(why not just play for fun and with friends?). I have the same problem heartless.. When I was a few years younger I got prescribed Xanax and some anti-depressant, but I did need it but I decided to drop it all together because I really like to play QL. I went a few months at home a nervous wreck weening myself off the drugs but eventually I got a job and back into school. You know what? Anxiety is your brain telling you to not do something because you're thinking before hand " oh what if I fuck up" " im going to look like a fool" "anything but this please"... But when you go out and do it it's not a big fucking deal as you make it out to be in your head

Man up. You took the drugs but did you make any progress with them? All they do is literally slow down your mind(Xanax). Learn to live without it moron

1. Not play games anymore because I hate playing like shit sue to my drug induced reactions.


2. Play the games I like at my level and live a life without drugs and being a man.

Everybody is a doctor here so they will immediately tell you how sugar + energy is bad hehe. We have certified II type diabetes members here.
Now while I enjoy the occasional energy drink because of the taste and the wakening it gives, in your case it will no longer work as you get addicted to it. Just like when people drink coffee or alcohol and the effect is no longer so strong. You know how it's proven that a human can't hold his concentration for more than 30min, so weather you are gaming x2 10min matches, playing table tennis rally after rally, race car driving, at one point you will go into cruise control and not put effort into it. That's why it's advisable to stop and rest or do something else.
Drinking a Red Bull is nice (if it's free) at certain moments when you need an extra boost and it will give you a great 20-30min wakeup time, providing you are not consuming this shit daily and more like once a month, however the penalty after that is the next hour you will feel like shit and even more exhausted. That's the penalty.
As somebody already said earlier you are far better off doing cardio, P90X to boost your stamina, and do it the natural slower way rather than getting a cup of coffee.

p.s In racing, one of Best Motoring videos Tsuchiya was explaining how they rest on the straights as it's pretty much gear shifts involved and nothing else.

No need to be a doctor yourself if you know that you can use the internet for other things than seeking porn: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4682602/

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I drink sleepytime herbal tea to get me amped.

I mean doing that kinda of stuff is acceptable on a temporary basis if you have important deadlines in real life. But why are you doing it for Quake? That's awful man, you should seriously slow down.

yep I agree. Living the fast life usually means you'll die at an age of 27 :) Like all the good rockstars. :)

What is your daily routine?
4 hours quake, 3 hours single player games, 2 hours movies and 30 min of porn? fix your life , before it's to late (if its not already).

daily routine?
4 hours of thunderstruck, 3 hours of delaying pressing F3 due to toilet or smoke, 2 hours dear diary'ing ESR and 30 min of taking game enhancing stack of drugs and drink.

Another day in the office for a fulltime CA god.

How would it be too late?

Also life's about luck, some dude who works a tenth of what you do will land all of life's luxuries and get that job or opportunity straight away whilst someone else could work 10x as hard and might not even get the dream job he always wanted.

Also I love how people preach that you should "Give something back to the community"

Nah, the charity starts at home, any money i earn goes to me and my bills, not someone else.

I've never consumed energy drinks in nontrivial amounts before so perhaps I'm going somewhat offtopic with this but what I have to say keeps in line with the spirit of the thread (does consuming stimulants/nootropics translate into gameplay improvements?).

Over the years I've been prescribed various stimulants as the result of an ADHD-i diagnosis, currently the most effective one for me is vyvanse as it doesn't make me jittery/have shaky hands (I think in part this is due to it being a prodrug but I only have anecdotal evidence for this).

The only discernible effect taking stimulants has had on my gameplay is it enhances my awareness and working memory (which is good because I take it to improve those things in every aspect of my life), as far as I can tell, it doesn't affect my mechanical abilities in any discernible form (when I first started taking them I was sure it did as I have a reaction time of 170ms according to the humanbenchmark.com rt color test, but after measuring while both under the effects and being off of it for > 24-48 hours I would get results within 2-4ms of each other if my memory serves correctly). Albeit, there are numerous ways in which having a clear mind gives my mechanics a stronger foundation to project from (better positioning, better cause and effect reasoning, reading opponents faster, etc) so usually when I'm not on them my accuracy, mouse control and damage dealt are considerably lower than when I am on them.

Now, being as competitive as I am and that I spend most of my free time playing fps', I've been investigating how I can tailor my diet/workouts to make me more effective in how I spend my free time, ymmv but here's two things related to this that help me the most:

a high protein diet, my goal (which is kinda hard to hit because the vyvanse restricts my appetite so much) is to intake ~ 3000-4000 calories per day (I'm also intentionally trying to put on weight), this is designed to facilitate the next point and provide your body with Phenylalanine and Tyrosine which are the precursors to Dopamine (and other neurotransmitters) which helps your nervous system behave at optimal levels. I'm not a doctor/medical professional but adopting this has given me a marked improvement in fine motor control (ie my aim feels a lot more comfortable on days where I remember to eat like this) and raw reaction time. I find eggs and avocados (well, guacamole :P) to be extremely effective.

working out to temporary exhaustion (eg do as many mechanically perfect and slow knuckle pushups (like say a 2 second descent, hold your chest next to the ground for 1 second then a 2 second ascent) as you can until your arms give out, and then do 4 more sets of that with ideally a break of 30-120 seconds, the key is that you're working until you can't go any longer -- don't worry about the number it will go up with time), especially in the arm/forearm regions. This helps promote type 2 muscle fibers, which are the "fast twitch" fibers that are oh-so-important in translating muscle movements into those little microadjustments that you use to keep your shaft locked onto the guy.

Changing my diet/workout routine has probably affected my gameplay as much any of the following in no particular order: going from 60 -> 144 hz (monitor), 144 -> 240hz (monitor), or going from 500hz -> 1000hz (mouse). Personally each of these have led to 5-10% increases in my accuracies.

This got a lot longer than I thought it would be but I hope it helps answer your questions.

TLDR: being prescribed stimulants only changed my gameplay in ways that are consistent with why I was prescribed them, changing diet/workout/hardware was way more effective in improving my mechanical abilities.

I have a reaction time of 170ms according to the humanbenchmark.com

i have 139ms and i'm on zyprexa, zoloft and xanax :D (and that without taking energy drinks :))

:O

Start focusing on rail abuse then. :P

Excellent!

To add to the improving your quake with health topic - I would suggest that anyone who feels ''too anxious'' in tough spots and loses their control (both mechanically and mentally) to add in some steady-state cardio. Take care of your parasympathetic nervous system with a good sleeping schedule.

Follow these two tips and your inner quack champion will be confident and steady even in the worst situations.

guys, just want to clarify the situation :

i drink monsters sugar/calories free, so obviously means i won't suffer from obesity or get diabetes.

i don't take xanax to improve my performance @ quake, actually i have a prescription that is about 3 pills of xanax 0.50mg spread over the day. I don't take more than that. And it fixes my random major anxiety crisis that i had before taking it.
xanax doesn't make me feel relaxed or anything, actually i don't feel any real effect while taking it except removing my major anxiety crisis, which is actually awesome, cause i'm not addicted to it, there are some days where i take only 1 pill and i just feel fine.

i also take zyprexa cause i'm kind of schizophrenic, paranoid, etc, and also zoloft because i have OCD (it removes more than 80% of my OCD, which is awesome).

before taking meds, i felt shit EVERYDAY, couldn't go out, couldn't have any other activities besides quake. Had major sleeping issues, major anxiety, social anxiety, paranoia, massive ocd, was ultra pessimistic about life, everyday i had black ideas etc... my mind suffered A LOT, and my family suffered of it too, collateral damages you know.

now that i take my meds for like 6 years or something (at the same dosage), i can live "normally", 85% of the time i'm happy and not really anxious etc. It also removed my paranoia, almost all my ocd are gone too, i sleep VERY well, almost everything is fine. And i don't get any real side effects while taking my pills.

so for those who recommend me to stop taking my pills and try to live a healthier life, well, you don't know my story and how hard i suffered in the past (and my family aswell). I actually take my meds just like someone with diabetes would take his insulin.

psychic disorders are very complex, and while the majority of "normal" people doesn't need any meds (or just like anti-depressant for 6 months and then you stop taking it when you feel better/normal again), others really NEED meds to have a better life. I'm in the second case ;)

"Some problems are so complex that you have to be highly intelligent and well-informed just to be undecided about them."
— Laurence J. Peter

and also forgot to say that when i take 1 pill of xanax, i don't feel more relaxed, just less shaky cause of high dosage of caffein :)

Those symptoms have WEED written all over them, I shoud know.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/

oh, and some years ago i tried to drink like 1.5L of coffee at once (hard coffee), i felt so shit that i thought i were going to die, even puked at some point, never gonna do it again

energy drinks > large dose of coffee

The coffee have more stimulants in it than just caffeine + other integers. Yes, it's different, but works good in normal dosage.

i tried both rb and different monster flavours,
both suck in the flavour department, I like coca cola the best,
but yeah, somehow I have the connection that all these limonade drinks destroy your teeth similiar to fruit juices, so I have always some aversion to them and only drink them in social activities ...

i think you're a relentless troll that needs MORE help and just won't stop, and that I really wish I could do something to help you, but geography prevents that, and so I wish you'd just stop. wait, is that what you asked? -EB

ps i've been drinkin in cph, sorry for being so blunt

You should ask your psychiatrist this question.

:D

Why just dont you buy a pre-workout drink, it will make you feel awake, focused, energized for 4-5 hours, and yeah don't drink, just sip it, but don't exceed 1 measure a day.

There is better ways of energy drinks....you just need to get into nutrition and supplements more....if you are interested you can always PM me, I'm a personal coach.

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