I look forward to playing some "dual mode." Do we need a multi-monitor setup for it?

as always: one for you, one for your enemy

dual rogs @ £1,200 ftw

:tim:

I really like this decision. Had OW been f2p it'd have been several times larger.

Bahahahaha they made it pay2win xD

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that my business model in the thread where amazon starts to take its illegal preorders

Dual mode, good thing i got 2 monitors !

It is free for whomever wants to get a taste , and then 1 price for full game.

I think this decision is great !

Now make mini transactions for skins etc , just so all who want to throw away money can help support Quake champions for the future . :p

slasher with the breaking newz

i hope the free champ is a healer

it says what it is in the article, its ranger

Best girl.

Willits is my hero.

Guess you never saw the stock dm6 item placement then.

sweet! will buy anyway to support

lmao so a bunch of freebs will be running around with the new babyfaced ranger.

GOOD FUCKING TIMES AHEAD, GENTLEMEN!!!

hehehe... the noob damagification Will be great. :P

Cxexecutive. Confirming Willits is cxe reflex community favorite

Former promode

This is terrible... I damn hope that Ranger is one of the best champions or I will feel terrible killing the free accounts using Ranger only because they don't have access to the other ones.

Still hyped for the game, but I really hate this business model. Then again, if that is what is needed to bring back Arena FPS to the spotlight, then let's see if it works.

Everything I've seen so far gets me way too excited over QC.

One of my concerns were also the 'max armor' stuff some champs have and on one of these videos that got leaked from Pax East I could see that for instance Visor's max armor is 75 but the guy had 125+ armor. It means it will only go down to a maximum of 75 but you can go over that right ? Either that or Visor's max armor isn't 75 and I am completely wrong about it ?

Crates/Loot is a great thing. Highly customizable champion means they can go crazy on skins to keep people hooked somewhat and get some steady income off mini-transactions. Also + daily challenges.

Afaik zero4 and sync went to IEM Katowice so I assume QC at IEM 2018 is a thing ?

Now to get Asia hooked on Quake and we could have ourselves a succesful esports title that can appeal to a large audience.

Also, I certainly hope we can get rid of that blood effect on the screen when you're low health. There'll be an option for that right, right ?

The loadout option sucks a bit but they tamed it with weapon 'upgrades' so I guess the starting weapons are shitty.

5v5 format is good imo.

Last but not least, we've got moles scattered in every region of the esports market spectrum (faceit, twitch, esl) so we can all just relax a bit and try to embrace the changes we'll all have to go through and keep an open mind about it until we all get to play the game and see for ourselves.

EDIT : apparently there are mega health and heavy armor that grant respectively +50 health and +50 armor and those are the only items that can get you over your health/armor limit - and then it decreases back to your max hp/armor. Atleast that's what I understood.

EDIT 2: also roles. Means evolving meta. Means a game that doesn't have to go stale. And as far as I've seen the abilities aren't breaking the core aspect of the game. I mean it's one ability per 30 seconds ? I kinda like it more and more the more I think about it.

amen

omg an actual sane decision... Who knows, maybe not all hope is lost.

looking forward owning you Weird

well, good luck on that.

Weird will find problems with QC netcode!

Depends on how far towards unlagged it is... As well as the gameplay mechanics.
If the LG still has knockback and is a dominant weapon which is fully unlagged.... Then I've already found the problem with QC netcode. As it'll be the same as QL.

And make the game modable!!!! soooo that whoever wants to let's say try something like OSP/Q4Max or some new stuff can do it....or just make a section with Quake Champions Arcade (like in Doom and SC2) this gives people even more fun in some other mods and don't want to play competitive. I would definitively like to see firstPerson style tower defence with Champions that would be awesome :D

I remember in the early stages of q4, the game was super shitty, but due to mapping competitions, good maps and mods, the game actually 6-9months later was super good, too bad nobody wanted to play it....q4Max + good maps saved it for some time

Seeing how they did Doom, and all the games after q4 in general I doubt that the game will be available to mod or to make maps for it that easily...now when I have some experience in shitload of computer skills I would give it a go on mapping for the game I like the most....hope they give this to us.


I like the system from Reflex, you play and earn credits, and with those credits just as in LOL, HOtS, you can buy EVERYTHING you want, not just limited things and some things limited to cash only.

For example cash only should be for a month or two for those who really want new skins and customization option (but those things shouldn't affect the game so much that you get advantage over other players)

for now 5v5 system I think that is great
duel/dual mode haha we still need to see
hope everything will work out good

i think crazy mods where you fly and ride a pony is great.
Still got fond memories of crazy huge maps in Quake1, or where you were playing as a ninja in a village.

Anything else just divides the community .

Quake4 was a singleplayer game , therefor it needed heavy modding for MP, QC is a multiplayer game and the default has the be the one that people plays .

There is mode for abilites
mode for not abilities
duel

then theres several different modes in there aswell , sacrilige or something is what they played at QuakeCon.

This is enough to divide the community already , anymore and i dont think its good.

Bring on QC pony mode tho ! yihaa

eggZaktly

I liked headhunters mod in q3, that was banonkers :))
I think that mode even had special weapon like flying saw gun, which could be-head the opponet so you can collect the head. It was superfun :)

I think also the race, training arenas would be great.
If there is 5v5 mode, CTF is a must, 1flag and 2flag ctf was great in threewave too.

The possibilites in fact are endless, there is something in that hardcore competitive mod, but also there is something in just getting inside the game and just having fun with useless mods which plays a bit differently, I would actually like to see mod like there was in q4, 2d perspective with a big map layout, and flying killing like soldat/towerfall ascension and such just for fun of it....it all depends on the tools.

For example SC2 is still good just because of what they did with Arcade mode and now with singlePlayer co-op commanders, weekly mutators ect. This is especially good for ocasional players, and non hardcore players, a lot of people just play HOtS, D3, SC2 for that same reason, whenever they come back there is always something new, but familiar and fun.
The same could be done inside Quake too, but implementationa and idea would need to be good. Like weekly bosses, small missions for achivements and such.

headhunters was cool.

quake wars was too complex for tards to mod with external c scripts for the extern virtual functions in the dll

there were no maps for rage

that is why doom 4 has snapmap

There was no MP in rage too, that as Doom 4 was a SP game in the first place.

QC direction is focused on MP but they will miss lot of potential if not done correctly, since iD and Bethesda apart from Doom SP disapointed me enough times over the years, I'll just keep my fingers crossed that the game will be good but with reserve of failure also.

your still going to be using the same radiant as rage, which is too complex for anyone to make any maps

most people will make a demo map with any old crap they make for the first few months, but that never happened

Exactly, they need to simplify the process, not like they did with doom, which is basically puzzle maker, q3radiant wasn't the best tool but was and is one of the best.
The need for that now is higher than ever, Rage Radiant was just....overwhelming too learn a tool for only one purpose, they should make something that is more unified and transferable through similar titles, if for example there is Radiant in which you can make easily maps for let's say QuakeChampions, Wolfenstein, Doom and Rage, that would be awesome...but that's not going to happen...it's a shame that we can from time to time still see new maps done for old Quake 3 and Quake Live by the community, sometimes even for Doom 3 and Quake 4 but for later titles such as Wolfenstein, Rage and new Doom there is not 20percent good quality fan-made material just because lack of good editor....shame....maybe even the biggest reason why new Quake could fail....

everything is exactly the same until you get into megatextures and sky boxes

The hype is real.

after watching some of these gameplay videos i actually want to play. can't believe it.

And you don't even want to [img1] ?

sonic broken :(

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i [img1]'d in #qc until you left, then they deleted me

Most things look promising except the low visibility of the enemy models.

Relax, for 9,99$ you will get a visibility you want.

I want Uriel or nothing. Just for the jumping sounds.

Klesk or no deal.

Curious of what they have been tinkering with when it comes to duel.

I do not have much hype after that shit they did with quake live

I don't think it will benefit the game in the long run - large part of players will get their fix with free account and move on, overwatch and csgo have shown that buy2play is still best model for a shooter if you want the title to have continous support and development (features, maps, etc) - ID simply wont make that much money and it's going to end up just like QL did


too bad, since Doom has shown there's still large market for their games, assuming the game would be comparable to ow/csgo/bf1 in terms of finish and refinement they wouldnt have problem selling tons of copies

Counterpoint: First and third person shooters in Asia and Russia. Also OW is popular in Asia precisely because there people play the free to play version at cybercafes.

Plus that the two most popular videogames in the world for almost 10 years are f2p. It's the way to get players, and players is what Quake needs.

Counterpoint:
OW just got anything resembling duel and 2v2/3v3 gameplay integrations. Haven't checked those out yet.
Now think about it, you get a f2p with ranger and you continuously get your ass handed to you by thrash f2p accounts of player that know the game?
Why? Because duel and because quake is a game where duel flourished for years and years.

It might be that in the end not every player would be discouraged but sure enough outside of pay to play competitively you won't have a lot of fun playing it and you loose your playerbase still.

pretty much

I think ID should work towards making the public games approachable and enjoyable for as many people as they can, 10 eu ffa servers wont make it - they need to find a way to make people play tdm, ctf and other game modes in a way Blizzard managed to get people playing classic WolfET stopwatch, for example

That will not happen because of matchmaking preventing that. It's not 1999.

In OW those gametypes are by far the least populated of them all. People play quick play and ranked (the 6v6 objective based gametype): not the other gametypes hidden under menus, that are an afterthought and that are replaced by other rotating gametypes every two months.

People on ESR tend to use duel as an example, without realizing that outside ESR nobody cares about it. Every time players stats in QL were revealed the conclusion was always been the same: duel was used for tournaments (watched by hundreds -- not millions) because of it being more practical to host, but not because people played it, as less than 10% of players played duel. In the actual servers duel never flourished. Don't care about stats? Then go to the server.browser and count how many people playing duel and how many are in CA. Plus, across all FPS games (Quakes and its clones included) there's not more than 500 duelers today, so duel really is irrelevant when making comparisons with other games.

For example, have you noticed how at PAX the main gametype shown was TDM? Have you noticed how in all the advertisement made so far (official videos) duel has not been shown once? Id Software is focusing on team based gametypes, not duel, just like every single FPS developer has been doing since the FPS genre was conceived.

And BTW, active Quakers don't matter anyway. Not even duelers, but Quakers as a whole. QL (the by far most popular Quake game) has exactly 522 players in the world. Therefore what matters is catering to the external audience, as they are millions, delivering a game that suits their preferences (team based) while it still being the Quake experience they vaguely remember or think it should be (specific things like weapon damages don't matter at all).

I'm not saying you don't have a point in this discussion, but for a man who likes to bring up stats you have zero clue how to read stats. Don't you have statistics class in law school?

I only ask this because of claims you often make, like "quake live has exactly 522 players around the world". Numbers you mention come from statistics, my guess is steamcharts, but you can't interpret em correctly to save your life

Idd
900 peak in 24 hours when i last looked just the other day, not everyone plays every day, and either way that is way more than 522 players

527 is the number of average players in the past 30 days (constantly updating -- yesterday it was 522). Previous six months were 524, 546, 516, 509, 519, 528.

What would be incorrect to determine a constant playerbase would be to conveniently use the peak amount of players that happened to be playing at the same time during a given moment of only the past 30 days, like you just did.

http://steamcharts.com/app/282440

You don't think peak players in a 24 hour period being about 900 every single month since October 2015 is indicative that there's more than "522 players" ?

Look at the monthly graph, ~900 peak, and ~250 at the lowest off peak *every day*.


You think 750 players a day turn up around peak times and then never play again so can't count as 'players' ?

Active players =/ peak players

As far as you ninja edit goes, that stat shows peak players during the last 30 days, not on each day.

Average concurrent players are not all active players. I don't know if you're misinterpreting stats out of ignorance or on purpose, to exaggerate your point. If its the latter you really shouldn't do that as true stats are weak already.

http://steamspy.com/app/282440

there's no fucking difference whatsoever between 522 and 900 players online since it's still below 10k

"and we feel that with our team game modes, and then especially our dual mode, that we can fill a hole that's missing in esports today."
dual in esports?
but dual killed quake :(

they changed the name so it's a completely new thing now

id never updated the Q43A launcher

still using the original

http://planetquake.gamespy.com/fms/Image9899.html?id=9970

get the lastest and last http://www.moddb.com/mods/q43a

When you were off ESR for so long, that you almost clicked on one of the p0rt links. :)

so is ranger gonna be the vanilla character with normal movement and no special bullshit going on? does this mean that we can 4v4 ranger for TDM?

haha i imagine you could do that, you can all make an agreement not to use the ability

oh wait is he the one with the teleport orb thing... nvm lol.

anyway i think somewhere in donutland someone mentioned the option to turn off special abilities, but haven't been paying much attention, maybe someone can confirm

Ye, you can start a custom game apparently and turn em off.

Doesn't he have kamehamehaaaaaaaa?

rip diabotical.

loool seriously, no1 brought this up

ull see. :D

more like rip Quake Champions

Diabotical = less players than QL.

hf.

Not after a month or two.

gg.

Nothing like people farming for coins to sell. Nothing will go wrong with that. You won't notice free players anyway with force model

nothing wrong with that, if new british £5 notes with low serial numbers are selling for £20,000 on ebay

https://reportuk.org/2017/03/10/new-5-notes-s...ur-pocket/

There most likely won't be a force model dude.

For two reasons :

1) skins
2) champions passive and active abilities.

It's quite obvious... And it's a good thing.

A good thing ? It's horrible, especially if there are classic mods without special abilities.

I already hate the fact that they are probably going to force me to use certain model I dislike simply to benefit from a special ability (I'd have loved that we could chose our skin on one hand and a special ability on the other hand, with small icons above players providing info on what special ability they chose for instance).

I hope bright sinks and force models will be a thing :p. Skin should be personnal anyway, even if I fully understand why they would want to prevent it so that people can "show" what precious skin they chose to everyone and get ready to buy something else to shine another day.

It is a good thing. No matter how much some will bitch and moan about loot boxes and skins, it is a necessary step forward now to get new players in and keep them interested in investing time to show off their shiny legendary skin sets.

If you force models the skins are irrelevant. Also, different champions = different abilities and stats. So you'd wanna know if you're playing against an anarki or a clutch.

As for classic gameplay I don't know there are quite a few ways they can do it. But forget about forcing models and I personally don't give a damn as long as everyone has the same.

The only criticism I can understand right now is for visibility. If they can make a clear visibility on players models then I'm content.

At least I hope they will allow drawgun 0.

I agree the game need new players and that things should be tried in order to be appealing to the masses, and I actually don't care about loot boxes and skins if it allows the game makers to make dosh and support tournaments it's perfectly fine.

I didn't know champions had different stats actually, only special abilities. Gameplay wise, it seems more tricky than what I had imagined.

force model in 2017 LUL

need a big arrow taking up half the screen like youtube videos

its not taking half the screen and get used to it because there wont be force model nor brightskins.

As much as I just wanted to have a full complete game you pay for, I can see how this model is almost necessary for having any hope of a large community. Necessary evils :(

you have the complete game that you can pay for.

Yes I know, I was more referring to the freemium format versus just a straight $20 to $60 purchase. Although I guess this is still a pay once type of thing.

Yes I know, I was more referring to the freemium format versus just a straight $20 to $60 purchase. Although I guess this is still a pay once type of thing.

The real question here is it 8 champions or THE GAME, as in if we pay now, we get all the content or do they do seasonal champions and DLC content that you need to pay extra for.

take a wild guess

i don't know man.. put a 10 euros price tag on the minimum package (allowing for a champion pick) or else it will be free2cheat

that's why Valve never made CS:GO free2play..

CS:GO is pay 2 play cause it is licensed to hidden path, they get a percentage for every sold copy of the game and removing that would break the contract/license and make valve viable to be sued.

They also make a ton of money from people cheating as most of the cheaters are repeat offenders and will gladly shell out 10€ per copy, it's one of the reasons why VAC is utter shit at it's job, they have enough man power and talent at the studio to make a proper kernel level anticheat but are content on letting people waste money cheating.

Many months ago we saw id hiring for a full time anti cheat developer. Hopefully they found someone good.

nice package

btw, huge number of QC video on YT now



and more, and more, and more...

They needed this to get casual players to even consider trying the game, especially with UT coming.

Get ready for hordes of rangers cheating though. With microtransactions it'll be like overwatch and mobas where they keep adding champions to create more cosmetics to sell. Hopefully the champion balance has less influence on the game than other games though because that shit ruins games.

I just hope that they dont try to make new Champions DLC pack, where you need to buy the new Champions as they come....and they will come for sure.

Casual player system should be: 2weeks 1champion rotation for casual players, and for those who buy the game all actual and future champions included without a need of extra cash-in.

Good idea!
Because I ain't going to pay shit for this gay Overwatch clone.
Thihihi, hehehe, hahaha.

you sound like you are sure for ever.

he rather sounds like a gay tard without clue and the one and only game he will probably Play so soon it's out is Quake Champions cause this game will break records in the quake universe.

mark my wise words!.

2 x 10/butthurt = 20/butthurt.

And regarding your wise words in broken English, I play more Battlefield 1, Rainbow Six Siege and Trouble in Terrorist Town than that boring +back Rl item farming simulator.
I can't even tell if I am going to polute my harddisk with QC, even if it gets as successful as other mobas like Ow, Dota2 and LoL.

the salt is strong with this 1 :)

I don't understand what your 2 replies are supposed to tell me.
Do you assume I give a fuck about your opinion or is caring about my mood your main hobby?

just trying to dismiss your negative and nonconstructive opinion with a nonconstructive reply in hopes that in years you will realize how your post sounded.

Ofc this is the internet, but sharing cluless populistic ideas is non-sense and helps only trump.

My post sounds like I got pissed that QC will be a clone of Overwatch, resignated and started making fun of QC, instead of getting bitter like you assume.
I don't need years for that realisation, not even a second.
And my opinion is pretty positive, considering all the fun I will make of QC.
Thihihi, hehehe, hahaha.

But how long will it take you to realise that constructive criticism towards ID is useless? They ignore community feedback anyway, as seen during the september 2014 scrubdates.
You already got 2.5 years on the bank.

You want a comparison with Trump?

It is not a MOBA! - Trump Willits

Thihihi, hehehe, hahaha

You are somewhat correct about id not listening to the community, but in a way that their response was to late, which doesnt mean they didnt/dont listen, right? ... but with this team i think they are possible to deliver a faster reponse.

anyways you were maybe middly pissed at best. :)

They didn't listen nor respond, most of the scrubdate you can even find in the QC footage. Plus abilities, while Trump Willits goes full populist claiming it ain't a moba.

no force models ?????????????? pakdishetttttttt

Will buy all the champions because I hate grinding items / gear or whatever in games, just give me all the weapons/champions and let me kill stuff.

I guess it's the same as if they were just selling the game so yeah whatever.

WILLITS: "AT ITS CORE, QC WILL BE A MOBA"

fixed

What the hell is a moba anyway? Google tells me it has something to do with controlling spawns of monsters/troops.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplayer_online_battle_arena

MMO with RTS stuff

biggest would be eve online, has the biggest battle that lasted 22 hours real time, or longer, and real world money lost £180,000 on ships

Can't wait when someone from ID says that they are really proud of their lesbian/trans characters.

*shudder*

Which of 48 genders do you think this abomination belongs to?

good god, i was hoping you were joking. look at the state of it :s

and aren't they claiming more than 48 genders now? (lol, there's 2)

I am very conservative: I lost count on 2.

do you have more links to pics?

Everything I have is from the QC subforum here.

Wise decision imo. I do hope that some sort of brightskin feature will be available though.

this reminds me of those wow-private servers. its free, but if you want a special mount, you must pay x amount of $. so its a fpsmoba

militia has special mounts for FREE

Sync in Discord. Possible beta start date: http://i.imgur.com/AHOaP9l.png

Good catch. That's how sync drops bombs.

That's not it.

what the fuck is this shit.

hype train

Does a quality product need to be free to be recognized and appreciated and ultimately, of course, be bought?

Doom 4. A game no one really had high hopes for MP and honestly not even for SP. Judging by the crowd on here it was something like Rage. It wasn't meant to be big and it wasn't meant to be popular amongst FPS gamers who are competitive. Then again, both games were sold for full price of 60€, pre-orders and what not. It turned out the games sold very well and people were very happy to buy them and enjoyed them.

So why would you 'give away' a name like Quake that is renowned in the gaming industry, a legend?
I must say I have always been more of a UT player even though my first MP experience was in Quake 2. But when something is good as Quake you have to have it/play it.
Let's just get back to UT for a moment, a game that I have most experience with. We, the UTers, are basically in the same position as you Quakers are. Waiting for the legend to be revived and bring back those glory days of non-stop play. Few months (years now?) back UT was announced and I was very happy with that, like you guys are at the moment. Also the game is said to be free. How cool is that? What is even more appealing that game is, partly, being developed by the community. Super exciting stuff right there. They rolled out the alpha version and it was exactly what we have been waiting for (more or less, hype train covers the bad bits).
Then months start going by all the while there isn't any noticeable progress. A lot of discussions on the forums with the community on how to proceed with certain things and what "we" would like to see implemented and/or changed/enhanced.
It all sounds and looks well but it comes down to a few people who are the loudest on the forums getting their ideas through setting the game standards for themselves.

After reading all of that your asking yourself 'how is that in any way relevant to QC?'. Well let me tell you that UT now reeks of cheapness and developers are so afraid to bring their own creativity and know-how into the game it's probably going to fail (I hope I'm wrong!).
It all comes down to having the 'blockbuster' feel for a game that recently DOOM 4 had. You get that feeling it was developed by all the resources the studio had available at the moment and it poured all of its efforts into it.

Let me add some more personal rant into this. You are going free with this game. But for whom? What demographic age group are you aiming for? 15? 20? 30+? All of them? People that are 30 or more years old will probably buy game just for being Quake (as I did but never really played it that much, QL that is). On the other hand you want youngsters to be crazy about the game and get their parents to buy it for them as a present, for Christmas and whatnot? Sorry, but this must be a high quality product to be desirable and flashing it as being free doesn't sound too promising.

Now that we got all of that out of the way let's be candid. Arena shooters are not doing very well. It ain't popular and they are very difficult for the average Jane/Joe. BUT. There is a but in here. People still play what is fun and that for the masses means a good team game. Good team modes will bring people in and hopefully keep them in game. Still that ain't enough if you want to keep the game afloat. Quake, like previously mentioned, is a legendary name and should be able to cash-in on that when it comes to eSports. As it turns out the game is big in eSports as the developer who is ready to support it. No support for the game means no eSports, no pro-players, no sponsors, no new customers and no money.

The question remains. Is id software going 'all in' on this one or is it playing it safe?
Personally, I'm leaning more towards no risk as this, for the moment being, looks more like a QL facelift. And I don't mean the game itself since I obviously haven't tried it but developers stance.

I know where you're coming from but there have been signs that they're neither going 'safe' or 'all in'. I don't think either of those terms make much sense. Would you say Blizzard went 'all in' on overwatch ? No. But they were smart about it and it sold well (eventhough the viewers numbers are still meh in my opinion, but that's cuz the game is boring af to watch).

I think they're going smart about QC so far. It looks like they have learned from previous succesful business models and are trying to implement some of the better ideas here and there (skins, crates, etc) and are also trying to appeal to as large an audience as they can (this free or pay all for one model sounds about right and has had a good reception so far. The concern about cheaters is real but hey that's a major and general esports issue with any given business model)

They want to focus on one game mode for esports. If well executed, balanced and fun, it could be the brilliant move we've been waiting for (fuck scattering the community accross 36 game modes, make them available but make sure there's this one official mode for esports). They want to give a specific focus on the asian market, again good move because you can be sure Quake is going to have a western following (if by name only).

They've hired Zero4 officially as their global esports manager. Good move too.

Hints are there that they're giving QC a fairly decent shot at. Now all we really need is to see if the gameplay is balanced, fun and spectator friendly. The rest seems to be addressed so far.

If league of legends wasn't F2P I never would have considered playing it.

Makaveli gonna be my bitch all over again like it was 1999.

I look forward to the release!

Lmao great episode.

Hmm, i have to say im kinda afraid now, that they a) wont get the game balanced at all and b) that you are kinda forced into certain setups just to counter other heroes.

This is basically why i never liked overwatch too much. Its like they are copy pasting overwatch "overwatch with gibs". I understand their businessmodel, it makes sens. I just kinda dislike the hero thing at all, just imagin an invis attacker on capture the flag every 30 seconds (if that is a thing, i have no clue).

Apart from that, im happy that an arena shooter is launched soon, eventhou i disagreed with the directions they went in quakelive. Its like ID is Daybreak.

"heroes"

clueless german spotted :)

I think you got my point thou.

Unless you want to discuss on a grown up level, feel free to pull the german card.

Well, you made your entire comment in bold characters. I had to be bold in my useless reply :)

clueless german

xou; location = France

Of course.

I'm busted :x

a) I bet on bad balance.
b) Don't worry, to help you pick the right champion, there will be non-strafejumping steam-kiddies shouting at you.

Gibs just make this version of Overwatch not accessible for younger audiences.

Haven't you watched the Nyx trailer?
The ctf-attacker will be invisible, invulnerable and bouncing of walls.

At its core it's overwatch...

"Quake Champions Provides Classic Quake Action, Despite Its Overwatch-Esque Heroes"

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/quake-champi...0-6448644/

I'd say it's more like mortal combat (first three games)

The problem with Free 2 Play is that it's gonna be hard do deal with cheaters. Look at CS:GO, it has anty cheat system and it's cheap as fuck. It's filled with thousands of cheaters. I monitor my match history looking for banned people and the stats says 1 cheater found per 10 matches. For sure there are many more being undetected. Even if someone gets banned he gets new account quicker than I'm able able to start new game.

OW has much better anty cheat system and additionally game is pretty expensive. I played the game since May and I noticed only 2 or 3 cheaters during that time. I'm sure they got banned and I don't believe they will spend another 40EUR to do it again.

Just don't play against rangers. Problem solved. :D

Will there be a collector's edition?