Except you don't have to pay to get these "better" champions. Your point is invalid sir.

But you will. You can only rent em for in game currency. So that means if you take a break from playing you'll have to grind to rent em again

Nope, every heroes are purchasable, the only problem is you can have only 2 heroes by default (Ranger, the other you decided)

You have to buy the rest with money or rent them with in-game currency

we need 3 heroes for duel, do we?

Grind is too stronk word.

But it could be annoying.

Well, it's not like someone orders you to kill 100 boars for 100 silver. You just play your game. If someone doesn't want to play why bother anyway ?

It takes a whole hour to get enough points to unlock half of them.

Is Ranger considered the worst? I'm not familiar with the new meta /s

You buy champion pack, and you get everything, no?

I bet just all heroes...

What else do you want?

coke and hookers

and perhaps some donuts

all maps including the ones who will come in the future and all features (statsboard and so on) those were premium features in ql

I dont care about additional weapon skins because I play with cg_drawGun "0"

I used to pay for a Quake games. Cash. Up front.

This would be fine but f2p games tend to wann regulary money like ql did. Plus additional microtransfer here and there. So in the end you pay much more than a full price game.

they say there will be a championspack option to get all champions on release, but it is likely that if there is a release of a new champion you will have to make a new investment.

No, they said all current champions and future ones

oh thats good news to me

they refer to just champions...
but im sure they will find a way to get more money from you ;)

I dont quite understand what you mean :^

you got all champs? so how about new maps or new gamemodes = new/more money for bethesda

I dont think they will put maps or gamemodes behind a paywall, they did that with ql and I hope they learned!

That is the point of MOBAs/champions, no? Because the base game is so stupidly boring and shallow, you introduce these 30 different characters with abilities and shit, and because that gets boring really fast as well, you change everything about them every few months so the game stays refreshing (at both the low and high level).

In ql they didnt made all maps aviable for free users. Lets hope they wont do the same thing to qc because this is a fun breaker. On the other hand this game is all about $$$ so...

this wasn't only a fun breaker. it actually broke the game even further. splitting freemium and premium users was the worst decision they could have made.

A business that wants to make money what a new concept.

Was Q3 or UT99 balanced? I think there were a few overpowered weapons in both games, yet they were still popular.

There was a nice article on here 10+ years ago which I can never find regarding game balance and how an unbalanced game (Q3) isn't necessarily a bad thing.

so its ok to make an unfair/unbalanced game? srsly?

i think q3 was very good balanced on LAN

It's mind blowing that with 20 years of experience they can still make these ultra retarded hurr durr zoom rail 100dmg decisions.
Someone should be killed there.

#fucknyx

That ability of her is the most OP thing ever, across all games of all genres.

most stupid thing ever*

Well you just can't balance an ability like Ranger's dire orb. Having that kind of mobility while someone else does not is impossible to balance. You can grab the rail on Blood Covenant effortlessly without rocket jumping or taking the jump pad.

In a game where people can see through walls and go invisible, a teleport is pretty tame.

Haha true. To be honest I haven't even bothered with playing other champions yet.

You can balance it. For instance you can give it a max range, or slower orb speed or make it possible to get hit and get destroyed.

I don't really feel concerned about it. It's fun.