well done, best of luck.

If your serious. Well done and congrats!

wizen - to become dry, shrunken, and wrinkled often as a result of aging or of failing vitality.

You got old, bro. :P

ouch gg

Sounds like the pot wasnt really the issue, but good luck on your life without the nocebo effect

probably but it doesn't help

Im sure it will be easier to establish a regular life without weed, if thats what you are alluding to

Maybe not, but i only ever got full blown panic attacks while high. And just recently I played some competitive ranked matches too see if there was a difference. Very solid, like a rock - no more trembling anxiety when the pressure is on.

Who knows why I became that way after years of using. Guess I'm just sensitive?

Anxiety can be a symptom of a physical defiency, so those supplements could or could not work if you want to reduce panic attacks.

However, panic attacks are not just an anxious mood but a complete set of reactions, something of a programme. This "programme" is created by yourself, its very much a psychological issue. In general, you have to learn how to chill. Weed can make it easier to chill, but if you dont chill, you have to chill first, and for that you have to actively learn how to chill

tl;dr; chill.

Both, panic attacks and anxiety can be based on physiological deficiencies, imbalances. The first sentence you explain how anxiety is tied to panic attacks and that supplements have a plausible therapeutic effect, the second paragraph you are trying to convince him that panic attacks are largely a psychological issue, but never mind that the whole issue can primarily be, etiologically, based on those deficiencies.

Thank you for explaining this guy that it's all in his head, he might now try to put out all of his willpower on psychological conditioning that might never work, leading to problems, you, uneducated retard won't understand.

He needs a full psychical diagnostic of his health before anyone can tell him it's in his head, if you don't got the proper education, then shut the fuck up.

Do u dare to rage on memento_mori too? Because hes proposing a similiar treatment !!!

MAKE THAT MEDICAL DIPLOMA WORTH ITS MONEY K?

You call that treatment? It's dog shit, not treatment.

Not sure what Gojira is doing listening to these idiots on ESR about health, he should go see a proper doctor and consult there.

I consider some of the info but I will be seeing the doc. The reality is that I'm pretty stable off the pot, run 3.5 miles twice a week and 3 days of strength training in between. Lol

90% docs will try to "fix it" with pills, not nutrition, they know nearly nothing about nutrition.

Be very careful of SSRIs, they make you insane... 100% of mass shooters have been on SSRIs.

That doesn't mean SSRIs are the cause of mass shootings.

If you add the fact that before SSRIs there was nearly 0 mass shooters, i say its very probable. Brain chemistry is still too complex for current knowledge, they play with fire, and get burnt.

http://www.cchrflorida.org/antidepressants-ar...shootings/

http://www.ssristories.net/

Brain chemistry is too complex, but pot is universally fine because a few successful people smoked it? :P

Lots of things have changed in the last few decades alone. Society is completely different. You could pin shootings on any number of things.

That said, I think psychiatric drugs should be avoided unless the problem they help with is severe enough to make them worth any risk. Since about 10% of America is on antidepressants alone, I'd say they are overused.

Pot is from nature, has been used for thousands of years, and has many true medicinal values, remember smoking isnt the only way to consume it.

SSRIs are recent, non natural, for-profit quack science.

Nature can be deadly. Something coming from nature doesn't mean much.

You gain knowledge about a thing's harmfulness from experience either way. Pot can mess with a person's brain just as well as any other drug. There is no drug that doesn't have nonzero probabilities of serious side effects, especially if you are taking it frequently.

There are people with serious psychiatric conditions who benefit from these drugs, for profit or not, where no amount of diet, exercise, willpower, blow jobs, or mystical thinking is gonna save them.

How did we survive in the old days? We didn't. Broken people just died off or lived miserable short lives.

They didnt because they lacked the information about the nutrients needed to restore the brain balance, not because humans are smarter than nature putting crap that palliates the symptoms but never cure, and ends creating mass shooters.

Nature > everything. Only humans can be so cocky to think theyre smarter than her. Not my case tho, nature is the master and true healer.

Pot can mess with a person's brain just as well as any other drug.

No, actually it doesn't. That's precisely why so many people use it.

I'm not saying it definitely will. I'm saying every drug has probabilities of undesirable side effects. You increase your chances with dose and frequency. In this thread alone, you'll see people talking about that from their own experience. I don't see it as a controversial statement. It's not even advising people to avoid it. Just something to be aware of since after all "brain chemistry is complex".

The question is, during the past twenty years is the use of antidepressants here a coincidence or a causation?

This is a very simplistic way of looking at it, surely the picture isn't as black and white. Just because two occurrences are linked does not mean there is a causation, nor does it have to be a coincidence. What about the persons life history? Previous interactions with peers? Mental health? Societal institutions? SSRIs may or may not cause influence mass shootings, I don't know, but how many people who have taken SSRIs did not go on a killing spree? Medical use is just a piece of a very complex puzzle.

I'm not saying medical use is good per se but it's not the "root of all evil". Medical treatment can create short-term relief and may very well be helpful to some people, not as a fix, but as a temporary solution. Other options, such as CBT, should of course be preferable in the long run, and the use of medicines reserved for situations where it is perceived as absolutely necessary. Point is, I think you're being overly critical.

"Not sure what Gojira is doing listening to these idiots on ESR about health, he should go see a proper doctor and consult there."

They have indoctrinated your mind pretty nicely...

Leonardo da Vinci:

“Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using his intelligence; he is just using his memory.”

“Those who, in debate, appeal to their qualifications, argue from memory, not from understanding.”

“Many have made a trade of delusions and false miracles, deceiving the stupid multitudes.”

“If you find from your own experience that something is a fact and it contradicts what some authority has written down, then you must abandon the authority and base your reasoning on your own findings.”

"Medicine is the restoration of discordant elements; sickness is the discord of the elements infused into the living body."

Carl Sagan:

“Every kid starts out as a natural-born scientist, and then we beat it out of them. A few trickle through the system with their wonder and enthusiasm for science intact.”

Quote dropping is as much a bullshit argument as any other, and ironically, you are kinda appealing to the authority of these people here.

I have utmost respect for quotes from one of the brightest, if not the brightest human being in recorded history. Who gained nothing from those quotes. Compared to the billions that pharma mafia authority makes with their palliatives pills on indoctrinated population.

Yeah, he was smart. But he is not here sticking up for you. You are applying his words in defense of your own arguments, which he never heard anyway. He was making general statements, most likely in a specific context that has been omitted and what he said reduced to a sound bite. Or do you think he was manufacturing self-quotes for posterity?

I'm pretty sure even da Vinci would take the word of an expert over some random guy in the street.

Seeking the advise of someone who has demonstrated they have significant knowledge and experience in a field, like a doctor, is not "appealing to authority", nor is it relying on memory in the absence of reason. It is obvious to anyone that even the most intelligent person can have no clue what he is talking about without the relevant experience.

Sure, a doctor can be wrong too, but they are more likely to be right than Joe Bloggs.

I will give you two examples, so to show you how wrong you are to put doctors so high and non doctors so low when talking about health.

Number #1
My wife some years ago started to have a synovial cyst in her wrist, which was growing and causing pain. She went to see many doctors, all told her the same, obviously, as all allopathic doctors learn from the same closed sources. They told her they could remove it by surgery, but that after some time, it was going to come back, and need surgery again. I told her let me research a little. After 1 week of out of the box research, far from the allopathic system that wasnt giving her a good solution, i learned the close relation between boron and synovial balance. Without enough boron, a nutrient thats currently severely lacking from soil due to modern agricultural practices, the synovial balance fails, producing either excess amounts (what she was suffering) or reduced amounts (#1 precursor of herniated discs). I started giving her sodium borate. After two weeks the cyst was gone, and with a maintenance dose, has never came back.

Number #2
About 2 years ago, my father started to have arrhythmia. At first it wasnt that bad, but it started to get worse and he couldnt even sleep. He went to a 5th grade cardiologist (5th being the maximum grade you can have here, so hes an "expert"). His answer? "Its an electrical problem, not much to do. If it gets worse, we will put you a pacemaker". I told him, let me research. After two weeks, i told him to cut all dairy, and start taking magnesium, L-carnitine and CoQ10. A few days after, no more arrhythmia, and hasnt come back.

Looks like Joe Bloggs arent that dumb, and allopathic doctors arent so smart. Ive helped many other people with different issues, but i know no matter how many examples i give you, your indoctrinated mind will search ways to ridicule me and empower the allopathic system thats richer each day, while handicapping the life of you and your beloved ones. As Mark Twain said "Its easier to fool people, than to convince them they have been fooled".

Very interesting. Cant wait to visit the drug store for some of these supplements. It couldn't hurt to try it out.

People give gstructor a hard time, but I see some value. Cheers. *sips water.

Dont worry mate, its been the same since i was a child (not nutrition wise because i was too young, but my attitude of believing in my own ability to understand things at a deeper level if i put the time into it, and mainly being empathic towards other people suffering) and trust me, it was much harder to cope the verbal and physical bullying than now being an adult. For me, truth is above everything, and im ok to fight for it at all costs, including my life if it comes to it, like has happened to so many people brave enough to fight the corrupt to the core allopathic system. Of course its much easier to deposit your problems in other peoples shoulders and being a good battery for the system, like the GOAT movie "The Matrix" shows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHcOeEjV06c

I'm not particularly interested in reading your anecdotes. Such stories are not hard to find. Neither are stories of doctors being right and actually helping people, but they are not sensational enough to make it onto your favourite websites.

The point I am making is that while doctors are human beings and flawed too, da Vinci is not in this thread (nor Mark Twain for that matter) saying people should be taking medical advice from random posters on a gaming forum. Dropping his quotes doesn't make it so.

You may well know what you're talking about; you may not. No one can establish your credibility.

Also, you need to stop with this indoctrinated sheeple bullshit. It makes you look like a moron who thinks only he has the capacity to "see the light", and using that phrase doesn't put you in good company. Interestingly, while you defend Joe Bloggs, he is the most likely candidate to be a "sheeple".

The thing is, I appreciate skepticism of doctors, and my personal view is that you should neither be too slow or too quick to visit one. You should get second opinions on serious matters, preferably not from people with no track record or credibility.

Certain drugs are definitely over-prescribed, but this is in large part due to the fact when people visit a doctor, wait in line, and pay up, they expect a quick fix. They're not interested in hearing the doctor tell them how they need to make difficult changes to their lifestyle, so it's quicker and easier for them just to be handed a prescription and be on their way.

chill

You are an idiot

you'll relapse. don't worry.

I'm keeping the good faith, brudda.

Pot is just showing more clearly a problem you have, but its not creating the anxiety.

My first bet is youre low on vitamin b complex, take deactivated brewers yeast 2x day, start with half spoon after breakfast and half spoon after 5`0 clock snack. Then after one or two week, start upping the dose till you reach one spoon each time. vitamin b deficiency is rampant and the #1 cause of anxiety, depression, and a lot of other issues, research for yourself.

Also take magnesium chloride, 1 teaspoon in a glass of water first thing in the day, and another last thing on the night. Magnesium deficiency makes people nervous.

And if you dont do it regulary, take sunbaths, your skin needs UV to create vitamin D, low vitamin D also creates a lot of problems, in fact Vitamin D shouldnt be calles Vitamin, its a steroid hormone, hormones play vital roles on a lot of internal processes.

2 weeks or more after starting with brewers yeast, buy lugol solution and start taking 1 drop in a glass of water. After one week raise to 2 drops. Go on till you reach 5 drops. Then 2 glasses per day with 5 drops each. Iodine is key for the thiroid, which also produces very important hormones, related to energy, mood, etc. You will start to feel more and more will to do productive things, they will start to look less and less like a chore and more like something you enjoy doing.

If you also want to stop smoking pot do it, but Carl Sagan and a lot of other succesful people proves Pot isnt the problem.

Thanks for the advice and information. I'll consider giving those supplements a shot next time I'm at the store. I'm a bit of a health fanatic especially when it comes to diet and getting sunshine. I try to get everything the natural way but do take supplements daily just in case.

For years I felt the same as many with pot, that many of my heroes such as Sagan and Carlin used (albeit probably less frequently than I) and I still wouldn't judge people by using. Truthfully, drugs can be very useful. Even shrooms help people with depression. I think moderation is key, but I've had trouble with that. For me it was about chasing the high. I can't honestly say I've gone a 2 weeks without some kind of crutch since I was a young teenager so being 100 percent clean is a huge accomplishment for me.

Anyhow, I definitely appreciate the input gSTRUCTOR.

Very nice to read! It is nice to have a clear head.

Cannabis used to help me with anxiety, then when life got a little too chaotic, it did the opposite. I think like they said this is a sign of my psychology when things were tougher, hopefully not just the 'pot'

What you mean with supplements? If youre taking vitamin/minerals combos, stop now. They create more problem than they make, and saturate your liver and kidney. People that really understand about nutrition know the relation between nutrients and only attack the vitamins/minerals that are lacking, according to symptoms.

oh god, whatever you do, don't listen to him.

gstructor is a well-known retard, id pretty much do the opposite of whatever he says

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." G. Orwell

Thanks for proving my point, sheeple.

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pot create paranoia and anxiety it is well known.

No, pot increases the level of an already existing paranoid. Its a drug that helps the connection between unconscious and conscious issues, so those unconscious issues are more clearly revealed.

What is tru is that theres a small percent of population that can react badly to it, but thats like any drug, legal or ilegal. Its all about your genetics, nutrition and mindset.

I need to get baked and record myself then.

Lars, you around?

You need a trip sitter for weed?

You are a fucking idiot too

Glad for you, best of luck. Eat clean and healthy too. And look at all the money you'll be saving :D

Hey man good shit, if you still want to play some quake add me on steam and we can duel and shit if you want.

Keep yourself hydrated.

Pot can make anxiety worse, because it takes your mindset and amplifies it. So it can potentially turn mild anxiety into a full blown panic attack. I would agree with others that pot is not the cause, but is simply highlighting a problem that is already there.

However, if you are chronically addicted to pot, its not good. Even for a "trivial" reason that if you smoke pot all the time, you'll get de-sensitised to it, and you're basically just throwing your money down the drain.

I think it might be useful for you to look into why you were compelled to use it so constantly. If you can address that, and also your anxiety, then maybe it will no longer be a problem.

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I don't know the level of anxiety you have, but a person close to me was having panic attacks with increasing frequence, to the point she could not take the train or go in certain places. She was, like most people with panics attacks "trying to avoid them". It turns out, that's exactly the issue, also known as panic trick. Panic tricks you in thinking there is something you should be doing to fix it.

She fixed her problem by just let the panic come, and do nothing about it. You have to embrace you will now die and that's fine. As your body finds out you actually don't, the next attack will be less strong and shorter. Let them all come and welcome them. They will eventually become mere chills and a few second of uneasiness.

Yes there are ways to deal with it. But imo the best option is to see a professional who can help you with figuring out what works best for you, because everyone is different in some regards. May save him years of trying out stuff.

She got her solution from this book:
https://www.amazon.com/Panic-Attacks-Workbook...1569754152
I know it's not like visiting a professional, but it's advise from one

Quitter.
How do you mellow out now if you can't/won't get high or sloshed on a regular basis?

Sports is a good substitute for quitters I reckon

How do you smoke it?

Good luck. Consider getting professional help, there is nothing wrong with that and it may speed things up drastically.

Also, the "medical advice" in this thread is somewhere between hilarious and sad.

Would be interesting if you pointed out your take on those sad and hilarious comments, considering that u work in that field. U dont have to write essays too

I don't work in that field, I just have a related diploma. And I honestly don't have the time and motivation to argue with pot smokers defending their habit.

Sure, that must be it ;)

Sure, keep enjoying your internet "knowledge" and the Dunning–Kruger effect.

Edit: I mean seriously, "In general, you have to learn how to chill.". Like depressed persons just have to stop feeling bad, right? And then the guy who suggests more sun baths....

Man now you are getting cute with this personal shit. Quite a step down from your initial position, isnt it?

I am against taking meds for everything, unless it is the last option. That doesn't mean I don't believe in science or think that all doctors are morons/criminals.

And you don't have to be surprised if your condescending tone backfires at times.

I'll just say drugs could be magnifying completely normal feelings into an extreme state. Anxiety is not necessarily abnormal. Without the magnification, the feelings might be at a level where they motivate you to make changes. But when the feelings are too strong, they just paralyze you.

So yeah, you might not be a fruitloop who needs a psychiatrist just yet, but there's still time. :P

Good for you man, but don't let your guard down for a long time. You'll be feeling better each day and soon you'll forget how bad you really felt at the time you were smoking weed every day. Light up one and you'll fully relapse if you're anything like me... happened at least 10 times now. (The danger is getting bored and thinking 'my anxiety must be cured!', getting high one time might be ok but then there's bound to be the second time soon after, and the whole anxiety / lazy cycle starts again...)

Always had to substitute one addiction for another... thank id for quake champions now (although that game sometimes almost puts me into relapse :P)

Seems like the perfect game for u (QC), I think you should be more ambitious considering how good u were in QL when u were tryhardin

Tryharding + really loving the game gives good results.
Tryharding for a small chance at some money in a game that you don't really like, it's not that effective

10k minimum with a top16 position isnt some money, its nice cash. Not liking the game, thats a good reason.

exercise is a great substitute addiction, it's an addiction that keeps you healthy, keeps your life structured, gives you an incentive to eat right, your body gives clear signals when you're overdoing it and runner's high is way better than weed.

I definitely am addicted to wiggling my body nowadays. It really helped me get over nicotine.

now if only it didn't feel like torture

I mean, I'm a dueler, I torture myself to have fun anyway

Laughing hard at all the idiots commenting thc does not create anxiety problems

All depressants do you brainless faggets it's logical when you artificially calm yourself down the brain will counter this and eventually overreact

Alcohol opiates and thc all create anxiety problems and individuals suffer years long post accute withdrawals and don't you misinterprete anxiety as if you were angry at something it's not you who are angry it's your brain sending stress hormones without any reasons so you hear a ringing in your ears

It d9esbt matter you or your stoner friend smoked for 5 years and quit without panic attacks

Start smoking again quit again repeat and eventually you all will end up with paws and anxiety

All you stoners trying to negate the fact because you don't want anything to interfere with your addiction


Also don't think there is any mind over matter here when the brain decides to stress outl it's like a broken bone you can not change it you just have to wait it out to eventually level itself to the default state

And under no circumstances never try taking any ssri or benzos

Thc will make you suffer hard that's a fact and it's not because it's so dangerous drug but because it's so easy you can do it everyday

Also there is a big line between YOU and your biochemical you

yeah, I somewhat agree with this.

I smoked lots of weed during the age of 18-24. It was the culture of our social group, we were just silly stoners with a daft sense of humor.

Hated the feeling of being a lazy waste of space and quit then started going to the gym, eating healthy, etc. Felt great.

Started getting bad migraines and generalized anxiety through the fear of the onset of them.

Had a nervous breakdown where I went to hospital then subsequent 2 years of therapy etc (refused to take any drugs other than betablockers).

It's a gradual process that takes time and I still get anxiety about things (both existential and metaphysical) - i.e my future or performing a gig. You just have to be patient and even though it's extremely difficult, keep in the fore front of your mind that anxiety is just a powerful but harmless sensation, don't fight it.

And I don't agree. You explain it as if it was your mind who created it while it's not. At least not mostly. (Mind=/=brain when I write)

When you drink 3 redbulls a day or strong coffee for a few weeks or months you will deplete of magnesium and start feeling badly anxious and depressed. Does it mean it's your mind who created it? No its purely biochemical and the same is with thc. It does fuck up your serotonine mechanisms and this causes the brain to stress out. Now when you are weak mentally you are not able to separate your thoughts and you as a you in general from what is your brain doing aside. So when it sends stress and you are thinking there is something wrong with you it gets amplified to the level you can not handle this anymore and you collapse. All this can happen in a split second because the dog barked or you heard a song that made you sad.

When your biochemical part of the brain is healthy it doesn't matter if you fear of going mad because it won't trigger the reaction as healthy brain will prevent it easily.

Also the biochemical anxiety exists independly. You can do good stuff be relaxed and still hear ringing in your ears. This are two separate things which can of course amplify one another.

"When your biochemical part of the brain is healthy it doesn't matter if you fear of going mad because it won't trigger the reaction as healthy brain will prevent it easily."

So panic attacks purely stem from a serotonine fuckup? Is that what you are saying?

No

Well fair enough. I still strongly disagree with u saying that panic attacks purely stem from chemical imbalances tho. From my experience people with certain personality traits are much more prone to panic attacks than others. And I've seen people grow out of panic attacks by learning how to meditate, for example. Or other methods, like focussing on their sensory perception during the split second when they feel the rush of panic attacks, which then aborts the whole routine of going mental.

"You explain it as if it was your mind who created it while it's not. At least not mostly"

what?

how was it not my mind that created it? when I first stopped smoking I was great for a period of over 12 months, the extreme migraines (similar to cluster headaches) and the lack of an apparent trigger caused the anxiety, I simply never knew when one was coming so lived in perpetual fear.

I completely agree that biochemical imbalances are a huge factor in well-being and anxiety/mental health issues.

I'm just trying to put a line between biochemical part of you as a piece of meat and you as a soul if we can name it this way

Example: schizophrenic people mostly know these little smurfs running on the carpet they are seeing should not be there but they still see them and hear voices which they know they should not hear

So there is a separate you as a consciousness and your brain who is malfunctioning

Of course the more serious the disease the less you as a soul remains

Let's say we create AI and it's stored as a code on the HDD using the procesor and ram etc now when we broke the ram this AI will start to feel worse, then we broke something else it's get more serious, then we start biting off the code and the soul gets lost

Same is with mental illness

okay, I appreciate that part of your brain is outside of your consciousness and is affected by things outside your psychological and metaphysical experience/perception of life but blanket statements won't apply to everyone as biologically everyone is different therefore you can only generalize but I agree that weed in general is bad for most people - it was certainly bad for me and I haven't touched it since.

We all have same number of hands legs and looks in general and our brains are the same of course some have higher math abilities others are more into painting some developed anxiety with a first joint some after 10 years and some not at all just like some athletes get disc hernia and some not but overall we are all the same and it doesn't matter you believe your anxiety come from your thoughts because it's not even though it's the way therapist brainwash you to help you deal with it as you were not able on your own (not saying it's bad)

You put a chemical into your brain that alters the way you feel by changing its chemistry- this is all physical just like the broken bone

that's bollocks, to deny people are different is just complete bollocks.

do you have any experience with interacting with real people in the rel world?

"it doesn't matter you believe your anxiety come from your thoughts"

are you also honestly denying that there is a psychological element in anxiety?

I'm not denying and I don't treat anxiety in general but thc induced state only which I wouldn't call anxiety too be honest as it's too general

Anxiety is psychological while weed induced symptoms are biochemical and independent from your humor BUT can amplify your anger and psychological anxiety so you get physical symptoms like muscle spasms etc and in the very beginning of withdrawal you get muscle spasms anyways without even being anxious sensu stricto

Look when you are high can you stop being high using your powerfully mind? No you can't and you can't heal thc damage the same way as it has to regenerate and rebalance on its own

Why would you draw a line between biochemical processes and the mind, treating them as two separate entities? Doing drugs temporarily alters your mind, it's not as if the mind is a fixed and unchanging entity. The brain is just a fuckton of neurons communicating with each other through electrical and chemical impulses which form the basis of our thoughts and mental processes. When the biochemistry changes, so does our cognition (i.e. the mind). Where is this soul supposed to be?

TL;DR Handicapped or mentally ill people have no soul.

Exactly that's what Adolf would say

Was just quoting you. Anyway, I still strongly disagree with u saying that panic attacks purely stem from chemical imbalances tho. From my experience people with certain personality traits are much more prone to panic attacks than others. And I've seen people grow out of panic attacks by learning how to meditate, for example. Or other methods, like focussing on their sensory perception during the split second when they feel the rush of panic attacks, which then aborts the whole routine of going mental.

I'm not discussing panic attacks here I'm only taking on the depressants withdrawals which combine anxiety panic attacks dp dr and depression and also chronic fatigue syndrome

Meh, pussy-move

"By Uruguay gSTRUCTOR"
Also take magnesium chloride"

" By Poland therm - Reply to #11
You are a fucking idiot too"

" By Poland therm - Reply to #44
you will deplete of magnesium and start feeling badly anxious and depressed "

LMAO.

Brewers yeast is the #1 recognized panic/depression reliever. A simple google search will give you an idea. Vitamin D is also a very recognized panic/depression relieve helper, a simple google search will give you an idea. Iodine is the fuel for the thyroid, which is directly related to energy and will.

I gave him advice of 4 of the most related nutrients to panic/depression and you call me a fucking idiot.

Normal violent reaction of a dogma based mind, with a very small consciousness.

These are no relievers it's just the insufficient intake or shortage might make the panic worse

More vitamins doesn't mean more health or benefits

Only visible benefits come from correcting deficiencies


Using your logic the food is a panic reliever


The only known panic relievers are opiates and benzos

Hes having some deficiencies that are making normal problems into panic issues, correcting the deficiencies will improve the problem. Cant be that hard to understand for someone thats calling people fucking idiots.

Meanwhile you said that only benzos and opiates, two drugs form the pharma mafia, are the only real relievers. Youre a doctor or just brainwashed? How humanity evolved without benzos and opiates meds for millennia? Oh right, because they had much better nutrition than in today chemical, processed, soil depleted world.

I only said it once and you are proving my point with each line

So you are saying he is not having any thc induced anxiety disorder but just some microelement deficiency?

Skipping the fact electrolyte imbalances can not be detected with the blood tests (only the extreme ones as body will always take the magnesium calcium potassium from the bones and cells ans put into blood stream in tje first place creating deficiencies elsewhere but sustaining proper regulation of vital organs) do you have his blood tests you say things like that?

Blood tests are super overated. Example, you can have a good liver blood test, and have a fatty handicapped liver. Symptoms > blood tests.

Oh really? And I was thinking blood test actually say everything!

Oh now I see the key word pharma mafia

So you are against vaccination?

Please just stop and go play this new quake it has been created so the people like you don't get lost and spawn raped on ztn

The last long range, double blind, test of vaccination was with the tuberculosis vaccine in India in the 70's. The result? People vaccinated had more tuberculosis than people not vaccinated. After that, never again a long range, double blind test of any vaccine, obviosuly, they didnt get the result they were waiting so they realized its easier to brainwash sheeple with propaganda and dogma, while winning billions of dollars with fake science.

Of course its much easier to repeat the dogma, than do actual research. Ive put thousands of hours of research on open minded health and nutrition, ive cured relatives of things the doctors said there is no cure. Ofc they want you to think that. cures arent profitable, they love palliatives, hooking you to as many pills as possible.

Even nobel prize winners with inside knonwledge have acknowledged pharma mafia has cures for lots of illnesses, but theyre not profitable, so they shut them down.

Please tell me at least you got your kids vaccinated.

Rofl

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Is that an austrian thing now to make fun of Niki Lauda? Hella lame man

I'm making fun of who?

Yourself?

lmao, what do you think?

Now, I'm usually not that kind of guy, not even on the webs, but his whole attitude is that of an outright CUNT, so I hope his kids give him measles.

Hahahaha fucking idiot

I know man, nobel prize winner are also fucking idiots for your unenlightened mind...

http://www.revista-ariel.org/index.php?option...;Itemid=83

lol keep the ad hominem attacks like the good sheeple you are.

therm opinion > nobel prize winners facts in your small, dogma based consciousness.

Now tell me how the earth is flat

ur too ez brah

I wanna hear it come on

Also please tell me about illuminati

nobel prize winners 'facts' beats all, so long as he saying what you already believe eh?

na man, therm and obi from esr beats all ofc LMAO

after you're done explaining why the earth is flat, can you explain to me how the lizard people in charge of the illuminati are using chem trails and fluoridation to mind control us?????

I dont believe the earth is flat, lizard people arent lizards the way your petty consciousness think, it means a lizard soul, a reptile, primal way of living without empathy, far from the amazing human brain cortex.

Fluoride is proven to calcify soft tissue, mainly glands, including your pineal gland, directly related to intuition which you obviously lack. Glands are known as chakras in India wisdom. Me and my family has been using for years a toothpaste that i do myself without flouride. My daughters are the smartest of their classes and have many years where they didnt had to skip a single day of classes due to having outstanding health.

Now get off my lawn, ignorant douchebag.

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IT MEANS A LIZARD SOUL NOT A LITERAL LIZARD

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Lizard soul is a too vague term prone to mockery. Its a lizard mind, a brain where the primal instincts are in the drivers seat, not the advanced, human cortex. Youre a great example of a lizard mind.

thats exactly what the lizard people want you to think, ignorant sheep.

are your daughters also attending the Joe Rogan University of Internet Stoner Conspiracy Theories??

Just leave the gay frogs alone.

How humanity evolved without benzos and opiates meds for millennia? Oh right, because they had much better nutrition than in today chemical, processed, soil depleted world.

panic relief was not part of evolution, if anything panic was such a vital part of evolution that in modern time's it's over-ingrained in us.

in medical terms opium has been used for literally thousands of years and is a good natural pain reliever.

that shit is part of beer, right?
could explain why I always feel so good after some beers ;) ;)

Actually yes beer has a benzo like molecule that's why it's more addicting than vodka

was referring to Brewers yeast ;]

No, yeast is removed after the beer is done. Every alcohol beverage does exactly the same, they remove vitamin B complex from your body. If you consume alcohol regularly, its a great idea to also take brewers yeast. People that consume brewers yeast has much lower incidence of fatty liver, the most common marker of liver damage. The fat is deposited to minimize the damage, similar to what happens with arteries, you cant create a normal scar in a place with the level of pressure that arteries have, so the body deposits fat.

The body is always trying to save us and minimize damage, if no fat was deposited, you would die much faster than with arteriosclerosis, because your artery would basically blow up.

"Also don't think there is any mind over matter here when the brain decides to stress outl it's like a broken bone you can not change it you just have to wait it out to eventually level itself to the default state "

You can run with a broken bone. Some people choose not to. You can learn to chill. Some people dont know how to

Tell me more about it

Just gotta learn them high level jedi mind tricks, you peasant. :D

I'm a little bit high strung. I mean, no one would ever guess that but if you watch me game it's obvious. I get pissy about losing and start cursing a bit.

Enjoying life much more without the daily weed induced anxiety is helping. I'll see a doctor soon to discuss more details about my physical health. Overall I think having more fun and doing enjoyable activities is going set me right again.

It may feel a little shitty now, but your brain will stop being lazy with happiness hormones pretty quickly and you'll find out that corny high on life shit is actually true.

ITT: intensive chilling

Maybe post this once u done 2months/6months, 2 weeks aint shit

I will be bumping every couple months or so. It's not like I'm on heroin or meth. I am month 7 without booze and almost two years without nicotine.

*Summoning @walteroutlaw @kdawg

weed gives me anxiety unless i smoke all the time.. so i do lol.
smoke a bowl in 2 months when your system is clean then you'll see just how much anxiety weed can cause.

my weed anxiety is directly related to my lsd use in my teens. strong weed feels like an acid come up for me and most of that is from getting high while tripping lol.
weird thing is i can eat shrooms and feel fine.
a real intense weed high makes me feel like i'm about to start tripping balls and i start freaking out.
that's wheni play ql and go full shamanic.

as long as i smoke every 2-3 days i don't get a panicky feeling from weed.
also cbd content plays a role. most strains have almost completely bread out cbd leaving high thc levels which are known to cause anxiety. cbd calms your ass down.

a few years back a neighbors brother visited and they got him high. I saw him as he was walking down the street freaking out because he was so goddamn high... white as a ghost.

My first hit of shatter off an oil rig made my soul feel like it was 2 ft to the left of my body. that lasted like 5-6 hrs.

Great that you are free of the "devil's herb" as they would say :-) I would say that it is a vice that unfortunately overlooked as there is a movement towards its acceptance and ignoring the realties, I knew someone for years who, used to have "real" hobbies and skills, but because of weed stagnated in those pursuits for the lifestyle of drugs (but, mostly weed). Dont really talk to him anymore.

'The beauty of quitting is, now that I've quit, I can have one, 'cause I've quit.'

this "logic" isnt even as stupid as it looks tho :D

don't work at a suicide hotline ;-)

Let's organise weedburnings and throw rocks at coffeeshop windows!

good job godzilla



same pose and view i have when looking at Steam Server Browser 4 Toxikk + QL Server :F

Thanks. I will get back to dueling soon hopefully. Need a good ass spanking.

Stop playing with controller.

Don't let a dr give you benzos

I've never felt bothered by you. Good job on quitting. Hold on to it and try to better your life. Spend time offline, enjoy the weather, meet people outside.

Peace

+BBQ its summer FFS <3 =))

let me tell you a story:
i started smoking weed at 17 and smoked until about 24
i was always feeling somewhat parnoid when smoking, but eventualy it got worse.

i started having real panic attacks, one time i smoked and went home.. and when i got home i was convinced that someone has poisoned me and i was going to die.. man my heart pounded so hard i was sure it will explode.

then it started getting worse, i started hearing voices..like, when riding the bus home i could hear some whispering and talking and i was always convinced that they were talking about me.

it got even worse, at one point my friends were having normal conversations around me, and i started to think that they developed a secret language.. like, they would talk about normal things and i would ubderstand it, but at the same time the things they said had a total different meaning.


so i stopped smoking weed at that point, i started trying exctasy and cocain.. but then one day someone offered me a line of cocain and heroin mixed together.. i tried it, and eventually i started snorting pure heroin.. then i started smoking it.

it felt like the solution to all my problems, because when i smoked heroin, i felt free.. free of everything and i could just be myself and chill.. no doubts, no worries.. just living in the moment.

but it came with a price, because its addicting.. not only mentaly but physically aswell.. so, i struggled but i stopped taking drugs altogether.

im now clean for 5 years :) the only thing i cant stop is cigaretts which is on my list.

Good to hear you resolved! Thanks for sharing. im almost month 2 already!

Respect for that

Have you tried Alan Carr's book on stopping smoking? I heard its quite good

I would never actually consider it but sometimes I think about going down the rabbit hole of drugs and then becoming sober again to come out a better man with a new perspective

Just eat some mushrooms.

I mean it more in a way that many drug addicts who have recovered actually seem to appreciate life from their experiences more than most people.

Some of the most arrogant shits I've met never touched drugs once. Every time I run into one of these guys I want to dose them heavy on lsd.

Smoking a fat bowl before work as we speak.

gojira congratulations

i cannot see life without the blunt

I take breaks, like every few weeks, somewhere between 3 to 10 days. Nowadays I got no issues with Mary. And most of my other friends I see only a few times a year, but when we do, we do it hard and wild!

Smoking pot on and off whole my life, have periods where I smoke every day for 3-4 month then I take break for same time i smoked, never had any problem with it... guys u need to cycle shit, specially when it comes to drugs. If u don't lack self discipline u should be fine with every drug

i wanna smoke a big fat one with you

what drugz have you tried already ?

heroine, crack, cristal,coke too, do not sweat it boyz just self discipline

trying to get into that lifestyle...


hit tha blunz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LlEagKUNro&a...mp;index=8

wtf?

Almost three months and alls well.

So, how you holdin' out _gojira? Still off the weed? Life still improving?

Doing great! No more adrenaline spaz attacks!

Sobriety is great. Panic attacks are terrifying.

My wife and I are quit with all substances again officially today. I know it’s lame and pointless to announce personal decisions, I don’t like to really and I don’t even have a Facebook but I suppose I might as well be a dick anyhow since this is esr. The more you know, right?

Anyhow, wish us luck. Last time we made it 7 months.

i've been addicted to crack cocain and lost everything i had. i had nothing left anymore. i fought trough it and came back stronger as ever. now i got 6 children and i am very happy in life

you can do it dude, you are stronger as you think and there is people loving you. stay positive, stay in the now and dont give up

im proud of you

Hey thanks for your kind words and hopeful message.